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mindovermusic
2007-05-01, 22:29
Help me! I'm doing a project on wicca, and I'm far to lazy to go out and find a person to interview. The paper is on the religious worship spaces our chosen religion uses, it the last leg of a 3000 word paper. So if someone has a few minutes to answer some questions, I'd be very much obliged. Thanks in advance.
To know is to learn..........nothing is free.
jackketch
2007-05-01, 23:39
Wicca i know little about but i do know something about witchcraft.
Uhm the usual chosen place for worship these days tends to be in the living room of some twee bungalow in Surrey (preferably one with the house name 'Dun Ravin' or similar. Gnomes in the garden are a must.
Normally the circle is handpainted on the floor boards and the carpet simply rolled back for the ceremony.
Instead of being redrawn each time the circle is just 're-visualised' using the athane or a wand depending on style.
The most important thing mind, is to have the oven on in the kitchen for the garlic bread sticks after.
mindovermusic
2007-05-02, 00:00
I got that far on my own. Thanks tho
The questions are more a kind of survey on how a user uses their own worship space, less about factual stuff more about habits and feel. My teacher is a kook.
jackketch
2007-05-02, 00:11
I got that far on my own. Thanks tho
The questions are more a kind of survey on how a user uses their own worship space, less about factual stuff more about habits and feel. My teacher is a kook.
habits?!
Well yes when worshipping outside brit witches do tend to wear fairly heavy dark wollen habits. Dancing in the noddy may be fine for Californian Wiccans but anyone stupid enough to prance around naked outside in England at night (except during the one week we call 'summer') will very quickly realise why witches like BIG fires.
Sacred flames of Beltane? Noooo surviving the sabbat without frostbite , yes.
Feel? Well witches tend to choose their sites based on what energies flow through them (and also tradition and of course how much dog poo there is). So the feel tends to be whatever flows from the land into them (usually these days various nasty toxins from the farmer's overuse of pesticides).
MasterPython
2007-05-02, 07:20
There used to be a webpage called whywiccanssuck.com it is probably archived in a bunch of places. It was not a criticism of the religion but of people that bastardise it in the same way as most religions get bastardised. Apparetnly ti has been screwed with alot for a religion that has been practiced for less that a century.
I've been a practicing witch since I was 16. I don't like to bring it up because SOMEONE ALWAYS trips, but if you need me to take your questionare I will. Just tell me when and were.
There used to be a webpage called whywiccanssuck.com it is probably archived in a bunch of places. It was not a criticism of the religion but of people that bastardise it in the same way as most religions get bastardised. Apparetnly ti has been screwed with alot for a religion that has been practiced for less that a century.
LESS THAN A CENTURY?!?!?! Get bent you ignorant fuck.................less than a century....HA! We've been here since the begining of human conciousness but I see that your blood line missed that bump in evolution.
jackketch
2007-05-03, 04:32
LESS THAN A CENTURY?!?!?! Get bent you ignorant fuck.................less than a century....HA! We've been here since the begining of human conciousness but I see that your blood line missed that bump in evolution.
You are confusing 'wicca' with 'witchcraft'.
Witchcraft has been around forever, wicca only really since the 1920's .(i might be wrong on the decade, i'm not an expert on this). Indeed it might be argued that wicca only came into being with the repeal of the british Witchcraft Act in the 50's(?) .
witchcraft= the Old Religion of England/Europe displaced by christianity. Wicca= american emo gothy teenage girls who go round proclaiming things like 'wicca has nothing to do with sex' , spell magic with a 'k' and saying 'blessed be'.
Anyone who tries to legitimize or vindicate wicca or witchcraft as an authentic religious practice should be tied to train tracks and left to anticipate their own death for hours before it arrives.
Both wicca and witchcraft are collections of Christian-twisted reports of shitty modern earth-obsessed mother cults and vagina worship. These are all very separate from primordial faiths; Irish druidic orders and Aphroditic prostitution rings do not account for the whole of ancient spiritual awareness.
You are confusing 'wicca' with 'witchcraft'.
Witchcraft has been around forever, wicca only really since the 1920's .(i might be wrong on the decade, i'm not an expert on this). Indeed it might be argued that wicca only came into being with the repeal of the british Witchcraft Act in the 50's(?) .
witchcraft= the Old Religion of England/Europe displaced by christianity. Wicca= american emo gothy teenage girls who go round proclaiming things like 'wicca has nothing to do with sex' , spell magic with a 'k' and saying 'blessed be'.
You know your right. I've got my head so far up my ass in my own self important bullshit that I toltally fucked that one up. Wow, now I look the fool. I'm going to chalk that one up to a knee-jerk reaction. I'm so used to defending my ways by insulting people...........:rolleyes: Whatever.
Another thing too, MOST wiccans that I've seen aren't the emo teenages like you say. I have only seen OLD fat white ladys laying clam to the wiccan name, with the occasional old fat white man. But I'm sure that my intentional disconnection from the world has left me clueless again. You're most likely right on that one too.
mindovermusic
2007-05-05, 15:23
ok broly, thanks for the offer
do you wanna do it via messages or is on here good?
Alutrius Xavier
2007-05-07, 03:26
correct me if im wrong, but isnt one of the rules about wicca and witchcraft all together to be silent...you know about what it is....
MasterPython
2007-05-07, 06:21
correct me if im wrong, but isnt one of the rules about wicca and witchcraft all together to be silent...you know about what it is....
Probably. Some witches cursed Shakespeare for using their spells in the Scottish Play. But there are a lot of books and websites so the rule is obviously not universal or well respected.
LostCause
2007-05-07, 20:59
I know a fair ammount about Wiccanism. What do you need to know? Otherwise, I would just wikipedia it.
Cheers,
Lost
Masta Thief
2007-05-08, 00:45
You know your right. I've got my head so far up my ass in my own self important bullshit that I toltally fucked that one up. Wow, now I look the fool. I'm going to chalk that one up to a knee-jerk reaction. I'm so used to defending my ways by insulting people...........:rolleyes: Whatever.
Another thing too, MOST wiccans that I've seen aren't the emo teenages like you say. I have only seen OLD fat white ladys laying clam to the wiccan name, with the occasional old fat white man. But I'm sure that my intentional disconnection from the world has left me clueless again. You're most likely right on that one too.
Wiccans are wierd!^^^
Rolloffle
2007-05-08, 00:53
It's evil.
Crazy women think they can get power by summoning demons but infact they get used & consumed by the demons themselves.
Christianity is the true religion.
mindovermusic
2007-05-08, 00:58
haha, sorry but I'm supposed to be neutral on this
seeing as I'm agnostic
but you can shove your dogmatic shit up your ass.
Christianity is a construct of uncertainty like all religions.
ArmsMerchant
2007-05-09, 19:54
In my Wiccan period, I was fairly wealthy, had my altar in my study--which would have been the second bedroom of a two-bedroom town house.
I was a Solitary, which meant that I had less status at pagan conventions than, say, Gardnerians, but as a "metis Native American" (that is, half-breed red-skin), I had a lot of status in the eyes of members of the great Wannabee tribe.
ArmsMerchant
2007-05-09, 19:57
It's evil.
Crazy women think they can get power by summoning demons but infact they get used & consumed by the demons themselves.
Christianity is the true religion.
Incorrect on all counts.
Wicca is not "evil," good and evil being illusory. There IS no good and evil, only that which works, and that which does not work.
And they don't summon demons, nor are they all women.
Christianity is a religion of fear and denial. There is no such thing as a true religion.
mindovermusic
2007-05-09, 20:53
ArmsMerchant, would you be willing to tell me about your altar and spell circle etc. I'm supposed to get 1000 words, but the teacher likes me, so I'm sure whatever you feel comfortable giving me will be fine. If you could put in stuff about the atmosphere (like the feeling of being inside your worship space), the lighting, feel free to go as subjective as you can. That would be lovely. Many thanks in advance.
ArmsMerchant
2007-05-15, 18:43
It was close to twenty years ago, so I don't recall a lot of details. It was set up according to the basic Ray Buckland "tradition." I used a black coffee table, had some crystals on it, used candles to mark the quarters on the circle.
I got the same sort of comfort you get from following any ritual, but never came close to experiencing unity consciousness, the "highest" state of consciousness. In fact, it was just the opposite, being keenly aware of how different it was from your mainstream religions.
mindovermusic
2007-05-15, 19:27
Thanks Armsmerchant
I got excused from that section of the project because I separated my shoulder on the weekend. But new information is always welcome.
ArmsMerchant
2007-05-16, 19:46
^ Ouch! Here's hoping your shoulder gets better.
mindovermusic
2007-05-16, 19:49
Thanks man, that means a lot.
it's healing rediculously fast
I'm starting to move it slightly, my collarbone is still displaced 3 or 4 inches but that will recede in time. Doctors said it would be three weeks till I was comfortable enough to take the arm out of its sling, and here I am typing with two hands.
jackketch
2007-05-16, 21:06
Thanks man, that means a lot.
it's healing rediculously fast
I'm starting to move it slightly, my collarbone is still displaced 3 or 4 inches but that will recede in time. Doctors said it would be three weeks till I was comfortable enough to take the arm out of its sling, and here I am typing with two hands.
I just know I'm going to regret asking, and after all these years on totse I should really really know better, but how did you do manage to seperate your shoulder?
mindovermusic
2007-05-16, 22:04
Judo tournament, I've done it before tho so this is the result of a badly weakened shoulder. Judo is like wrestling, you try and throw the guy to the ground, choke him unconcious, break his arm, or pin him for 25 seconds. I was getting thrown and two 200 pound guys (me and the other guy) came crashing down to the mat with my shoulder leading the charge, at which point my collar bone said fuck this shit, tore the ligament and disconnected from the rest of my shoulder, its now somewere inbetween my neck and where it should be (ofset about three inches right and an inch up)