personally I am an atheist but i dont see to much of a difference between creationism and evolution, here is my point of view.

evolution- the evolving of animals basically from a rock and from that 3 billion years later here we are as humans. how? I don't know
creationism- we came here in the image of today and somehow we wrote this information down 10,000 years ago into the bible. how? I don't know

heres some facts I do know
evolution-
earth is 6 billion years old
the universe is 18 billion years old give or take
humans 20,000 years old
there is a farily well documented way of how we evolved
but there are 2 big flaws i believe to be with evolution
1 is how the big bang happened
2 how we went from rock to living organisms
but mostly everything else has an reasonable explanation (you can debate if there good or not)

here are some more facts I know
creationism-
god made everthing as it is today
universe made in 7 days (if there earth days is up for debate)
humans are 10,000 years old (i think that whats is believed)
fills in most gaps about why we are here
but I also see 2 big flaws with this
1 evolution is proven through facts creationism is to believe someone was there writting this all down
2 if god created us why had he stopped after 7 days and not continue to evole us to be and do better and why dose he not step in when we screw up

considering all this both sound good but both sound pretty dumb but humans are still learning and hopefully we can come to know more about the world around us

i see do not see to large of a diffrence between the two if you believe those 7 days are not earth days.

after considering this I believe in evolution it just make more sense to me but mabey i just cant see the bigger picture.

Please post what your opinion is but please take this in to account and just dont spew out garbage.

EDIT: Ive tried to be unbiast as possiable if you want me to change something just post.

How we went from rock to living organisms?

you do realize there is this big idea called science and it explains that, right?

As for the big bang, there have been theories on that, most of them viable, but as we cannot know what happened, even the best ones are simply best guess.

as for creationism, it is tied in with religion. It boils down to people taking the bible literally and trying to explain things from that interpretation. It also has huge holes.

This is a wonderful story, that was told to the people in the desert, in order to distract them from the fact that they did not have air conditioning.
I would LOVE to have the FAITH, to believe that it took place in seven days, but I have thoughts. And that can really fuck up the faith thing. Just ask any catholic priest. And then, there are fossils. Whenever anyone tries to tell me, that they believe it took place in seven days, I reach for a fossil, and go, ‘Fossil’. And if they keep talking, I throw it just over their head.

How we went from rock to living organisms?

you do realize there is this big idea called science and it explains that, right?

As for the big bang, there have been theories on that, most of them viable, but as we cannot know what happened, even the best ones are simply best guess.

science dose not explain how we went from rocks to living organismis the have only been able to make 2 chemicals out of the 46 i believe to be needed for life and you said your self theres no great theroy to explain the big bang so i dont see why your posting except to flame creationism

science dose not explain how we went from rocks to living organismis the have only been able to make 2 chemicals out of the 46 i believe to be needed for life and you said your self theres no great theroy to explain the big bang so i dont see why your posting except to flame creationism

yes, science does. However, it wasnt from "rocks to living organisms" as you so eloquently put it. Molecules of hydrogen and oxygen in the water of the planet, and the carbon and nitrogen in the air, combined, with the help of energy from lightning, forming the basic building blocks for life. I have no idea where you are coming up with 46 number, but the basics of our being (chemically) is simply hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen.

As for the Big Bang, I never said there havent been any GREAT theories, i said we cannot know, so we have nothing but theories. However, there is evidence that we can base those theories on. One of the most widely accepted theories currently is one of an expanding and contracting universe, that the universe continually goes through cycles of expansion, which eventually halts, then comes back in on itself, forming a singularity, that then creates another Big Bang. According to this theory, there could have been many Big Bangs that we are completely unaware of. That is, however, only one theory.

You should have done a little research before shooting my previous comments down so fast.

we could debate this for day considering how little proof there is all im saying we have yet to create a simple 1 cell organism out of all the elements and technology we have on earth today unless we use another organsim
seeing that it is impossible for us to tell each other how to create life

and with the big bang theorie i have my opinon to believe that the universe was not created by one highly densely packed atom exploding for some reason E = mc² basically defends my point there

we could debate this for day considering how little proof there is all im saying we have yet to create a simple 1 cell organism out of all the elements and technology we have on earth today unless we use another organsim
seeing that it is impossible for us to tell each other how to create life

and with the big bang theorie i have my opinon to believe that the universe was not created by one highly densely packed atom exploding for some reason E = mc² basically defends my point there

We have, however, been able to replicate DNA, which is the building block for life. We may not be able to create life, but we also cannot replicate the energy of a lightning bolt either, so that doesnt mean much. With more technology, it could be possible.

And the theory of energy conservation does not prove you right on that point. Once again, if you would do some research you would realize that a SINGULARITY is an INFINITELY dense POINT, not an atom, and very well could account for all the matter and energy in the entire universe.

I urge you to do some basic research before you try to debate this any further.

we have been able to replicate DNA since we first took a cutting from a tree to plant a new tree and if all it takes is those elements to create life and a lightning bolt then why cant we create life.... because life is made up of hydrocarbons amino acids proteins (46 compounds in proteins) that is all necessary for life then we have adenine guanine cytosine and thymineall (all in DNA) of this somehow formed from hydrogen oxygen carbon and nitrogen oh and a lightning bolt ENOUGH FRAKENSTINE

genius you solved the creation of earth
the proff that teaches you should be killed

singularity is a theorie just that we never seen one and theres no proof of one so ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC FACT SO DONT QUOTE IT AS IF IT WAS

we have been able to replicate DNA since we first took a cutting from a tree to plant a new tree and if all it takes is those elements to create life and a lightning bolt then why cant we create life.... because life is made up of hydrocarbons amino acids proteins (46 compounds in proteins) that is all necessary for life then we have adenine guanine cytosine and thymineall (all in DNA) of this somehow formed from hydrogen oxygen carbon and nitrogen oh and a lightning bolt ENOUGH FRAKENSTINE

genius you solved the creation of earth
the proff that teaches you should be killed

singularity is a theorie just that we never seen one and theres no proof of one so ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC FACT SO DONT QUOTE IT AS IF IT WAS

When I say replicate DNA, i mean actually replicate ONLY DNA. We can replicate HUMAN DNA (all the chemicals of which are created for hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen. Weird coincidence, dont you think?). DNA didnt spawn from nothing, and the hydrocarbon chains that were formed from the initial reaction probably reacted with other chemicals in the air and water to form the basic proteins that make up DNA. There is nothing Frankenstein about it. It started extremely small and basic, and grew from there. Not a hard concept to understand.

I dont pretend to know how to create life, as it is out of our reach at the current moment, but it MAY be possible down the road.


As for the singularity. If you dont know a singularity exists at the core of a black hole, then I cant help you.

We have enough such threads.