I am who I am and everything I have achieved is my own doing, there is no 'god' who has helped me. God is a fictional character and I dont need his 'forgiveness' or 'love'. if anyone tries to make me think otherwise then they should give up now.

Thank you for listening. Now go fuck yourselves.

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

This viewpoint is both new and interesting.

Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

OP seems to be thinking about the arrogant, jealous, petty deity portrayed in the Bible. This is an obsolete artifact of the Piscean Age.

God is not so much an entity fas a force, aka the Unified Field, a universal intelligence/energy which permeates all of us. (This is what Jesus meant when he said "the kingdom of God is within you.")

When you do what you will, you are doing God's will. Whether or not you accept this means nothing one way or another to God. God, being God, requires nothing from you, and neither rewards nor punishes nor judges.

What YOU judge, however, judges you.

What of your genetics? Did you choose those?

Your parents theirs? And so on?

And the first life?

The first planets?

Systems? Galaxies?

The universe?

Did you really choose all these things that have made your life what it is today?

Are you so arrogant to think you are solely responsible for your entire life? All predispositions and limitations?

Pull your head out of your ass: you're not an island.

Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

Darmok. And Jalad. At Tenegra.

"What of your genetics? Did you choose those?

Your parents theirs? And so on?

And the first life?

The first planets?

Systems? Galaxies?

The universe?

Did you really choose all these things that have made your life what it is today?

Are you so arrogant to think you are solely responsible for your entire life? All predispositions and limitations?

Pull your head out of your ass: you're not an island."

As usual, you miss the point completely. That people like you are allowed to breed is an offense to those with functional brains.

Do you think God, or a higher power rather, really gives a shit about you in the entire scheme of things?

What of your genetics? Did you choose those?

Your parents theirs? And so on?

And the first life?

The first planets?

Systems? Galaxies?

The universe?

Did you really choose all these things that have made your life what it is today?

Are you so arrogant to think you are solely responsible for your entire life? All predispositions and limitations?

Pull your head out of your ass: you're not an island.

I, for one, blame chemistry and quantum physics.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/science.jpg

Darmok. And Jalad. At Tenegra.



As usual, you miss the point completely. That people like you are allowed to breed is an offense to those with functional brains.

You are the one with a dysfunctional brain. He claimed whole responsibility, ignoring entirely the play of all past life, all past matter, and whatever the fuck may or may not have been before. Disregard for circumstance giving you a boon is as retarded as crediting it all to magical entities.

You should be more careful to not attempt reading a person's viewpoint from a series of questions that aren't even a fraction of what comprises their overall function of mind.

I, for one, blame chemistry and quantum physics.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/science.jpg

I don't blame the fields of science, but rather what they study: life, energy, matter, motion, genesis, and so on.

Also: I'm not going to attack you for mistaking my post as a vote for J3buz and t3h m4giK4l ß3ingz, but like Surak, you ought not to read too much into a few questions. :)

you ought not to read too much into a few questions. :)

That's such a common occurence, it's damn near forgiveable, isn't it? Those who are quick to jump to conclusions are robbing themselves and their imaginations by being so foolheartedly all-assuming.

I try to make it a point to get to know people before kidding myself that I've got them all figured out. More people should follow suit.

I am who I am and everything I have achieved is my own doing, there is no 'god' who has helped me. God is a fictional character and I dont need his 'forgiveness' or 'love'. if anyone tries to make me think otherwise then they should give up now.

Thank you for listening. Now go fuck yourselves.

this isnt your blog. if you dont want people to reply to what you say, dont post in a forum.

like ive always said, i think religious nuts and athiests are equally insane and wrong.

dont try to say theres no proof of an afterlife either. theres plenty of fucking proof, short of an actual piece of the afterlife that can be examined under a microscope. and i happen to know a pyschic person. i wont get into a big debate but lets just say i can tell her to guess what im thinking of 1000 times in a row and she will get it right every time (without asking for money). i am absolutely sure theres an afterlife.

but on the same note its pretty stupid to think we know all about the way things work and can perfectly explain it based on thousands of years old texts.

theres more to life than we know. we arent supposed to know more than we do right now, so we dont.

for the record i dont really believe in "god" either. i would call "god" the energy that makes up all of existence. i guess maybe all together it is some kind of conscious entity, but it deffinetly is not some all-powerful seperate entity that rules over humanity and sends people to suffer for enternity based on some stupid mistake they made in this life.

dont try to say theres no proof of an afterlife either. theres plenty of fucking proof, short of an actual piece of the afterlife that can be examined under a microscope. and i happen to know a pyschic person. i wont get into a big debate but lets just say i can tell her to guess what im thinking of 1000 times in a row and she will get it right every time (without asking for money). i am absolutely sure theres an afterlife.


How is that proof for an afterlife? Let's pretend that your psychic friend can tell how you're feeling, how does that prove there is something after we die?

there are a lot of really amazing near death experiences people have reported. forget the parts that have to do with the afterlife, what would be interesting to you is how they can explain the procedures being done to them while they are clynically dead, and are able to recall the name tags and descriptions of all the people working on them while they were dead. in one case i remember hearing about how a women who was blind from birth was able to see and later describe the doctors working on her while she was dead, and in another case someone read the label on the top side of a ceiling fan (and it was verified by other people).

its always smart to look at fantastic stories like this with a healthy ammount of skeptisism. but to outright think that all these stories are completely made up or some trauma enduced delusion is not too smart. especially when you take into account the types of stories i just mentioned.

as far my pyschic friend, she has talked about the afterlife before. i figured hey, what the hell, if she can basicly READ MY THOUGHTS, what reason would she have to be lying to me about an afterlife? i mean i would just assume "money", but the thing is, she doesnt make a career out of it, or even really talk about it that much.

"there are a lot of really amazing near death experiences people have reported."

Most of which have natural explanations. Hell, I've had had a NDE while in the hospital, and even I'm not dumb enough to believe that it was anything more than random neurons firing in my brain.

"forget the parts that have to do with the afterlife, what would be interesting to you is how they can explain the procedures being done to them while they are clynically dead, and are able to recall the name tags and descriptions of all the people working on them while they were dead."

All of which they would have seen before going under. Come on man, what's more likely? That they simply saw the nametag before the operation, or that they have some strange, otherworldly psychic power for which there is no tangible evidence?

"in one case i remember hearing about how a women who was blind from birth was able to see and later describe the doctors working on her while she was dead, and in another case someone read the label on the top side of a ceiling fan (and it was verified by other people)."

Yeah, I'll bet. And why hasn't that miraculous event shown up in any scientific journal? Why hasn't anyone even documented the supposed cases of amputees growing back their limbs? You'd think that somebody would think to at least take a picture. But no, all of these "accounts" are nothing more than stories, modern day feel-good legends that appeal to people's emotions.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. When somebody makes a claim like they saw God or were abducted by aliens, they either back that up with something solid, or we can safely assume that (for one reason or another) they are incorrect.

I'd LOVE to believe that humans have crazy psychic powers and can shoot laser beams from their eyes if they only just believed enough, but I have a functional brain and I know better.

as far as the NDEs go, i cant help you. all i know is what ive seen on the discovery and history channel. i consider them pretty trustworthy. atleast more so than the internets.

but i still have my pyschic friend. i cannot provide you with any proof other than to have her tell me your mothers madien name, but i hardly ever see her as it is and i dont think she would be too thrilled with the idea.

no, not because she cant prove her super powers, but because she doesnt have any need or desire to. life is more complex than you might think. they way you think now, all your beliefs about the world, the afterlife, everything, was all planned out by you before you came here. if every pyschic went around proving beyond any doubt the afterlife was real it would fuck up a lot of peoples plans. see what i mean?

im sure you dont believe me and i really dont care. you cant prove me wrong, i cant prove you wrong, lets just agree to disagree and continue living :)

"as far as the NDEs go, i cant help you. all i know is what ive seen on the discovery and history channel. i consider them pretty trustworthy. atleast more so than the internets."

I saw a documentary on the "UFO crash" at Roswell on the History channel yesterday. They claimed the alien bodies had been taken to Australia. (!?) Word of advice... don't believe everything you see on TV.

"but i still have my pyschic friend. i cannot provide you with any proof other than to have her tell me your mothers madien name, but i hardly ever see her as it is and i dont think she would be too thrilled with the idea."

Do it. Find out what my mother's maiden name is. Also, provide proof you didn't just hunt around on the internet for the information (It's out there.)

"no, not because she cant prove her super powers, but because she doesnt have any need or desire to."

Yeah yeah yeah, "I can but I don't wanna." Your friend is full of shit and you're a gullible dimwit.

"life is more complex than you might think."

O RLY? I look for logical explainations for the weird crap that happens instead of just going "lol psychicz." In this way I actually learn about the world around me, instead of pretending I live in some kind of secret X-Men fantasy land.

"they way you think now, all your beliefs about the world, the afterlife, everything, was all planned out by you before you came here."

Prove it. Since you clearly can't and are just talking shit, please stop spewing this nonsense. There is no such thing as "destiny." There is no fate but what we make for ourselves... that shit is not laid down before we're born.

"if every pyschic went around proving beyond any doubt the afterlife was real it would fuck up a lot of peoples plans. see what i mean?"

How so? It would undoubtedly earn such a psychic a Nobel Prize, worldwide fame and fortune, and it solve one of the greatest so-called mysteries of all time.

Who are these people whose "plans" would be interrupted by the release of this information? Lizard men? The CIA? Plan 9 from Outer Space? Or is the roving gangs of atheists so many Christians seem to think are wandering about?

"im sure you dont believe me and i really dont care. you cant prove me wrong, i cant prove you wrong, lets just agree to disagree and continue living"

No, go fuck yourself. I'd love to just "live and let live" but stupid little pricks like yourself just encourage ignorance with your goddamn fairy tales, and that leads to more stupid people that are out there fucking things up for me. All hard evidence on "psychics" and "near death experiences" indicate that they have natural, unremarkable explainations.

Life is not the goddamn X-Files, you shitpiece.

OP seems to be thinking about the arrogant, jealous, petty deity portrayed in the Bible. This is an obsolete artifact of the Piscean Age.

God is not so much an entity fas a force, aka the Unified Field, a universal intelligence/energy which permeates all of us. (This is what Jesus meant when he said "the kingdom of God is within you.")

When you do what you will, you are doing God's will. Whether or not you accept this means nothing one way or another to God. God, being God, requires nothing from you, and neither rewards nor punishes nor judges.

What YOU judge, however, judges you.



Wow, how can you respond that much by just giving that little?.

Any way, Like they say "God" is just an imaginary friend for grown ups
All people seem to be doing is giving boring quotes and morals to defend there believes

The only 'religion' there is, is logical thinking and science such as biology, chemistry, physics, technology, etc. Religion is just a make believe idea created by a minority of manipulative people out to control the majority of gullible people.

The only 'religion' there is, is logical thinking and science such as biology, chemistry, physics, technology, etc. Religion is just a make believe idea created by a minority of manipulative people out to control the majority of gullible people.

What a horrible world you live in.

Have you considered changing your universe?

You can get an exchange at the counter, I think.

Tell them Rizzo sent you.

I get $10 the next universe, that way. :D

What a horrible world you live in.

Have you considered changing your universe?

You can get an exchange at the counter, I think.

Tell them Rizzo sent you.

I get $10 the next universe, that way. :D

People who support God and things similiar to that are retarded. Why? Because its not real.

Perhaps when the almighty God comes down from the heavens and sends lightning bolts crashing down upon my head, then I will believe in shit like this. Unitl then I call all this bullshit...well...bullshit.

People who support God and things similiar to that are retarded. Why? Because its not real.
Not to mention that, for me at least, there seems to be something very unhealthy and sickly about the 'comfort' people derive from their religious beliefs.

Not to mention that, for me at least, there seems to be something very unhealthy and sickly about the 'comfort' people derive from their religious beliefs.

Exactly. It makes sick how people can get away with murdering people and little children in the name of God.

Exactly. It makes sick how people can get away with murdering people and little children in the name of God.

I wasn't referring to people murdering people in the name of God...

Exactly. It makes sick how people can get away with murdering people and little children in the name of God.

It makes me sick how some people get away with murder in the name of legal loopholes. OJ! OJ! OJ! o.O

Is murder really that bad, though? I mean, in the big picture, we need population control right now. Let people kill, then kill them for killing until we're down to a decent population that this planet can actually support. Isn't that the logical avenue?

People who support God and things similiar to that are retarded. Why? Because its not real.

Nothing is "real", or everything is real.

Perhaps when the almighty God comes down from the heavens and sends lightning bolts crashing down upon my head, then I will believe in shit like this. Unitl then I call all this bullshit...well...bullshit.


What the hell are you talking about?

Not to mention that, for me at least, there seems to be something very unhealthy and sickly about the 'comfort' people derive from their religious beliefs.

I would very much like to compare our respective healths.

Personally, I could battle a moose right now.

Islam is the only and true religion. Only if you knew, if only.

I saw a documentary on the "UFO crash" at Roswell on the History channel yesterday. They claimed the alien bodies had been taken to Australia. (!?) Word of advice... don't believe everything you see on TV.



Do it. Find out what my mother's maiden name is. Also, provide proof you didn't just hunt around on the internet for the information (It's out there.)



Yeah yeah yeah, "I can but I don't wanna." Your friend is full of shit and you're a gullible dimwit.



O RLY? I look for logical explainations for the weird crap that happens instead of just going "lol psychicz." In this way I actually learn about the world around me, instead of pretending I live in some kind of secret X-Men fantasy land.



Prove it. Since you clearly can't and are just talking shit, please stop spewing this nonsense. There is no such thing as "destiny." There is no fate but what we make for ourselves... that shit is not laid down before we're born.



How so? It would undoubtedly earn such a psychic a Nobel Prize, worldwide fame and fortune, and it solve one of the greatest so-called mysteries of all time.

Who are these people whose "plans" would be interrupted by the release of this information? Lizard men? The CIA? Plan 9 from Outer Space? Or is the roving gangs of atheists so many Christians seem to think are wandering about?



No, go fuck yourself. I'd love to just "live and let live" but stupid little pricks like yourself just encourage ignorance with your goddamn fairy tales, and that leads to more stupid people that are out there fucking things up for me. All hard evidence on "psychics" and "near death experiences" indicate that they have natural, unremarkable explainations.

Life is not the goddamn X-Files, you shitpiece.


youre an angery person. i dont really feel like even reading this whole post with that tone. i hope you didnt put too much work into it.

i have no reason to prove anything to you. my belief is that you believe the things you do because you chose to and it will help you in the long run. if anything me proving you wrong may be detrimental to youre development. so why would i want to do that? i dont like to be mean.

i did catch part of the end of your post where you seemed particularly angery with me. if you think my beliefs negatively effect the well being of the community around me for whatever reason you are wrong. on the outside im just like everyone else i know. i have no hippy traits what so ever aside from the pot smoking. thats something you may want to try sometime actually, you seem like you could use a joint :)

ok i ended up reading some more of your post. wow..

let me clear up one little detail. the rest is really pointless to discuss.

"How so? It would undoubtedly earn such a psychic a Nobel Prize, worldwide fame and fortune, and it solve one of the greatest so-called mysteries of all time.

Who are these people whose "plans" would be interrupted by the release of this information? Lizard men? The CIA? Plan 9 from Outer Space? Or is the roving gangs of atheists so many Christians seem to think are wandering about?"

you did not understand what i was talking about there aparently. these "people whose plans would be interrupted" are us. all of us.

like i said, my understanding is that before we were born, we (our "soul"?) more or less laid out a plan for our lives, chose personality traits, beliefs, parents, not every last detail but the majority of what our lives would be like. why? well that is the very meaning of life. and we are all here for our own reasons. my reason for being here is different from yours.

so, if all of a sudden everyone beliefs came crashing down, and it was not part of the "plan" everyone had before they came here, it would not be too good then would it. it would fuck up everyones very purpose for being here.

now i know you dont believe any of that shit but i just wanted to clear that up. you can think im a spiritual nutcase but i dont want you thinking im a conspiracy nutcase :)

"youre an angery person."

In this world, if you're not angry about *something* then you're not paying attention.

"i dont really feel like even reading this whole post with that tone. i hope you didnt put too much work into it."

Somebody call the "whaaaaambulance."

"i have no reason to prove anything to you. my belief is that you believe the things you do because you chose to and it will help you in the long run. if anything me proving you wrong may be detrimental to youre development. so why would i want to do that? i dont like to be mean."

If you could actually prove that any of the bullshit you talk about is true, I would gladly admit I was incorrect and apologize. The problem really *is* that you don't feel you need to have anything to back up beliefs; you can just pick whatever you like and go "yep, sounds good to me!" and walk around pretending like it's real. That you and so many others get away with that is detrimental to society at best, because nobody has to think about why they believe they things they believe. Asking questions like "why" help us to expand our horizons and better not just our own lives, but the lives of our fellow man.

"i did catch part of the end of your post where you seemed particularly angery with me. if you think my beliefs negatively effect the well being of the community around me for whatever reason you are wrong."

Really? So irrational dumbfucks like you don't pull rampant bullshit the world over in the name of whatever fairy tale they cooked up or pulled out of a book? I'm not angry with you specifically, I'm angry at people like you.

"on the outside im just like everyone else i know. i have no hippy traits what so ever aside from the pot smoking. thats something you may want to try sometime actually, you seem like you could use a joint"

That's actually something I'm jonesing to try this summer. There's a new Rush album out, so there's really no excuse *not* to toke up at this point.

"ok i ended up reading some more of your post. wow..

let me clear up one little detail. the rest is really pointless to discuss.

"How so? It would undoubtedly earn such a psychic a Nobel Prize, worldwide fame and fortune, and it solve one of the greatest so-called mysteries of all time.

Who are these people whose "plans" would be interrupted by the release of this information? Lizard men? The CIA? Plan 9 from Outer Space? Or is the roving gangs of atheists so many Christians seem to think are wandering about?"

you did not understand what i was talking about there aparently. these "people whose plans would be interrupted" are us. all of us."

Oh good, this should be rich. I have a plan, do I? I'm a Cylon, then? Pardon me while I rock out to "All Along The Watchtower."

"like i said, my understanding is that before we were born, we (our "soul"?) more or less laid out a plan for our lives, chose personality traits, beliefs, parents, not every last detail but the majority of what our lives would be like. why? well that is the very meaning of life. and we are all here for our own reasons. my reason for being here is different from yours."

Define "soul" and then prove that everyone has one. So far, even people who have managed to define that word have yet to provide anything to indicate that humans possess it. What's more, you claim that we all have "plans" that we're apparently supposed to carry out in our lives. Yet another assertion with nothing to indicated that it is true.

"so, if all of a sudden everyone beliefs came crashing down, and it was not part of the "plan" everyone had before they came here, it would not be too good then would it. it would fuck up everyones very purpose for being here."

Why does everyone have a "purpose" to their existence? How do you know this? There is nothing to indicate that is true. All signs point to this: we are merely here and what we choose to do with our existence is entirely up to us.

"now i know you dont believe any of that shit but i just wanted to clear that up. you can think im a spiritual nutcase but i dont want you thinking im a conspiracy nutcase"

I'd prefer it if you were a conspiracy nutcase; they spout the same inane, batshit crazy-talk you do, only nobody takes them seriously.

you talk a lot but dont say much. there is nothing i can do here. and i really do not care. think im some fruity newager hippy or whatever. you cant take me on my word so there is nothing else to be said.

"you talk a lot but dont say much."

The problem is that I evidently have to keep repeating myself because you people are too "special" to understand basic tenants of logic.

"there is nothing i can do here. and i really do not care."

Taking your ball and going home now, eh? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

"think im some fruity newager hippy or whatever. you cant take me on my word so there is nothing else to be said."

I don't think you're some fruity new ager. I know you're an irrational dipshit that thinks it's ok to decide how the universe functions solely on appeals to emotion and superstition.

You claim insane bullshit to be true, you're damn right I'm not just gonna take you at your word.

im reaally high and this made me lol

Religion (such as Christianity or Islam) hangs on to old hatreds and beliefs and nothing else.

Science hangs on to what is the truth and nothing but the truth until something better comes along for all living things and forms and holds on for dear life until yet again something better comes by.

I am in the middle, I want to feel God but I can't; somtimes I think I do, but then I lose it, but when I do, I don't feel lonely.

I want to believe in Science, but it leaves me alone constantly looking for answers with a hole in my soul and my eyes open to the universe. Like with no TRUE friend inside me.

Get it?

The search for answers is part of what makes us human, Severedset. Just because there's no invisible man in the sky watching over us doesn't mean we have to be alone. It can be frustrating sometimes, but don't look to superstitious nonsense for comfort, you'd only be deluding yourself.

Science doesn't know everything nor does it make that claim, but it's doing a damn fine job thus far of figuring things out, and we should take comfort in the fact that we humans do have the ability to solve problems if we just think our way through them.

The search for answers is part of what makes us human, Severedset. Just because there's no invisible man in the sky watching over us doesn't mean we have to be alone. It can be frustrating sometimes, but don't look to superstitious nonsense for comfort, you'd only be deluding yourself.

Science doesn't know everything nor does it make that claim, but it's doing a damn fine job thus far of figuring things out, and we should take comfort in the fact that we humans do have the ability to solve problems if we just think our way through them.

i totally agree. why am i such a bad person again?

I woke up after a 16-hour surgery and said, "Is my blood okay? How'd the second transfusion go?, it was the biggest, right? Am I cool now?"

A room full of doctors, nurses, family&friends basically shit themselves right there.

I woke up after a 16-hour surgery and said, "Is my blood okay? How'd the second transfusion go?, it was the biggest, right? Am I cool now?"

A room full of doctors, nurses, family&friends basically shit themselves right there.

(1) you can prove this and that it was supernatural how?

(2) we should believe you why?

(3) that has what to do with whether or not a God exists? A soul existing doesn't automatically prove that a God is existing.

I think most religious beliefs about the soul are misunderstood. Too many people think that when they die and (go to heaven, hell, get reincarnated, etc) that its happening to 'them'. But I think people have the wrong impression of what they really are.

Everything that makes me Obbe, the way my mind works and the things I think, are based on the experiences of this life. Thats all ego, its not real...its like a mask used to help me understand reality. What are we really?

Basic consciousness. Observers. Ever taken a drug that induces temporary ego-loss (like salvia)? Thats what you are beneath the ego, and thats what was supposed to meant by soul, IMO.

Damn work...I'll write more about the soul and then God later in about 9 or 10 hours...

I think most religious beliefs about the soul are misunderstood. Too many people think that when they die and (go to heaven, hell, get reincarnated, etc) that its happening to 'them'. But I think people have the wrong impression of what they really are.

Everything that makes me Obbe, the way my mind works and the things I think, are based on the experiences of this life. Thats all ego, its not real...its like a mask used to help me understand reality. What are we really?

Basic consciousness. Observers. Ever taken a drug that induces temporary ego-loss (like salvia)? Thats what you are beneath the ego, and thats what was supposed to meant by soul, IMO.

Damn work...I'll write more about the soul and then God later in about 9 or 10 hours...

Salvia saved my life.

Why would people believe only their essence survives? It's about as comforting as knowing your toes will be attached to a new body and continue living. It's not you. You are the sum of your experiences, influenced by your life, a lump of clay that was molded into a pot on the spinning wheel. Believing the clay the you-pot was made of is used for a vase really does nothing to the knowledge that you. the pot, will be mushed

Comfort is what matters. Death is scary and thinking a part of you that's not really you survives doesn't make it any less scary. Afterlife is basically a concept that you don't die and hence no need to be afraid

Personally I think death is no different from sleeping. Every night everything that makes me me fades for a while

Personally I think death is no different from sleeping. Every night everything that makes me me fades for a while

You go to sleep, then you wake up in a new day.
It seems so many things in life are circular. Why is it so hard for some to consider that death does the same thing.

So many things die and are reborn in a new more evolved version. We have beliefs about ourselves and who we are. Those beliefs are constantly dying to give way to new more evolved beliefs aboutus. This is called growing and evolving. If it happens on a small scale, why can't the concept be translated to a larger scale such as our entire life?
Life cycles can be seen everywhere. The fact that it's called a cycle means that it ends at a new beginning.

Out of body experiences suggest we are not our bodies but occupiers of our bodies. What if at death we simply leave our bodies for good move into a newborn baby for continuous evolving? What is the point of growing if at the end we hit a brick wall and stop?

It makes me sick how some people get away with murder in the name of legal loopholes. OJ! OJ! OJ! o.O

Is murder really that bad, though? I mean, in the big picture, we need population control right now. Let people kill, then kill them for killing until we're down to a decent population that this planet can actually support. Isn't that the logical avenue?

Yes indeed. uio3q likes murder.

Anyways, I'm saying that murdering on false belief is retarded and the people that do that are retarded.

About population. How would you like if I came and murdered your entire family in front of your eyes for population control? I know its easy for some people to say these horrible things to keep population down. Yet if it happens to them its suddenly wrong, so therefore no people will not kill for population control.

Besides there far useful ways in controlling the population such as maybe, just maybe, colonies on Mars.

we need a base on the moon first though.

until then i guess we can just kill the retarded and crippled people. i mean seriously, what the fuck are they doing for us anyway?

It seems so many things in life are circular. Why is it so hard for some to consider that death does the same thing.

They're the complete opposites for starters

Salvia saved my life.

Really? Were you suicidal or something?

Comfort is what matters.

Maybe to some...:(

Anyways,

Now that I've explained a little bit about my thoughts on souls, I'll try to explain my thoughts on God and the nature of reality.

I've already said that minus the ego, we are basically consciousness. Third Dimensional Consciousness to be exact...which itself is a collection of First and Second Dimensional Consciousnesses. However, I don't want to go into those (at least at this time) as it could complicate things a little too much.

Lets use me as a starting point instead. The things that I am aware of are the things that I have experienced. But at nearly every moment of my life, something different could have happened that would have caused me to have different experiences. Some string theorists believe these alternative realities do exist, and that they can be nearly infinite.

So besides me, theres a great number of other lifetimes I could have experienced, while still existing as Obbe. Lets view all of these lifetimes collectively, and call it "Obbes collective consciousness". But I am not the only person who exists...everyone else, and all of their alternative lifetimes, all contribute to what we might call "Human Consciousness".

However, there are scenarios in which Obbe never came into existence. The same rules apply to everyone else too. So besides the "Human Consciousness" that we are imagining now, there is a great number of alternative "Human Consciousnesses" that could exist in alternate realities. Again, lets view all of these as a single point, which we could call "Human Collective Consciousness". We could call it anything, these are just terms I'm throwing around.

We humans are not the only conscious things though (it is my belief that everything has a consciousness...but to make things easier to understand, I wont go over that right now). Everything else contributes to what we could call "Global Consciousness". It too has alternatives, which when viewed as a singularity could be called "Global Collective Consciousness".

But who is to say Earth is the only place where consciousness exists? (Again, I would disagree with someone stating that.) Other planets, perhaps even in other galaxies (I'm skipping the galaxy step here to shorten things up) may all contribute to something we could call "Universal Consciousness". And that, as you may have guessed by now, would also have alternatives. When viewed collectively, I believe we are now imagining what one might call "God". It would be much more complex if one were to think all that exists has a consciousness.

Thats only consciousness however. God would also be a physical collection of all the possible alternative universes, alternative worlds, down, down, down to the last singularities. I've posted it before, but this video (http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php) can really help you to understand this concept.

But theres much more to think about after this, like differences between matter and energy and consciousness, and what such things really are.

If you took the time to read this, I hope it was understandable.

They're the complete opposites for starters

How do you know death is ever lasting? Nothing else is.

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Every night everything that makes me me fades for a while

You don't ever dream?

Yes indeed. uio3q likes murder.

Anyways, I'm saying that murdering on false belief is retarded and the people that do that are retarded.

About population. How would you like if I came and murdered your entire family in front of your eyes for population control? I know its easy for some people to say these horrible things to keep population down. Yet if it happens to them its suddenly wrong, so therefore no people will not kill for population control.

Besides there far useful ways in controlling the population such as maybe, just maybe, colonies on Mars.

You can call me heartless, but I'd be the first one to murder my family if I really thought it'd save the entire race. Thing is, we'd still fuck like rabbits and over-populate again, stressing the world until life dies out.

You don't ever dream?

No one dreams all night, it's restricted to certain phase of sleeping. My brain might not be dead during the other phases but my personality is, for the time being

They're the complete opposites for starters

So what if they are? Hot and Cold are opposites but winter always turns to spring.

Have you given up on these ideas already?

So what if they are? Hot and Cold are opposites but winter always turns to spring.

Have you given up on these ideas already?

You're using the arguments Socrates used in the Phaedo. You guys are making the same fucking mistakes people made in ancient Greece, like using sleeping as an example of death, which leads people to speculate on there being two worlds because of dreams, etc. etc. Fucking naively hoping for a next world, speculating about it and daydreaming this one away instead of working on it.

You can't imagine how much I despise humanity right now.

You can't imagine how much I despise humanity right now.

I think I might.

I think I might.

GTFO. This whole thread just looks to me as if it is filled with people going “there could be, there could be, look at this poor speculative metaphysical argument, there just has to be!” WAKE THE FUCK UP.

36mg of Xanax, 13 beers, and 6 glasses of whiskey. I smoked some salvia the day before, and I remember during my trip I read something in a book that said, "You give the seventh glass back to your friend." I woke up after a day long blackout in a town I'd never been before, barely alive, barely breathing. I had wanted to die, and I know I took more than enough to kill myself according to standard LD50s with the complimentary effects of two downers. I didn't. I had a wicked OOB while I was blacked out though.

Dark, comfortable place permeated by hundreds upon hundreds of voices...worries, hopes, dreams, and so on. Overall, a cool experience.

And?...

And?...

I was replying to a question Obbe asked me. Wasn't in regards to anything you said.

I was replying to a question Obbe asked me. Wasn't in regards to anything you said.

You didn't quote Obbe and posted directly underneath me, so I was inclined to think you were speaking to me. Sorry for the mistake.

:mad:

:(

What else can we do besides wonder? I know you have an interest in philosophy, I know you like to read the old texts. But not everyone has, so instead of getting all mad and pointing out mistakes, why don't you just enlighten us with your profound insight instead?

Exactly how do we work on it? Besides speculating I mean. If I could die and then come back and tell everyone what happened to me, believe me, I would.

What is it you want me to wake up to?

I'm not hoping for another world, some eternal bliss where I live forever, a comfort blanket. I think that when you die, after the lifetime flashback at a Fourth Dimensional awareness, we again experience ego loss...and then? Maybe off to experience another existence. Maybe your dimensional consciousness rises. But I don't know anything, and don't see any way I could. Do you?

I was replying to a question Obbe asked me.

Thats very interesting. Do you think the salvia in your system had something to do with your survival?

My brain might not be dead during the other phases but my personality is

I was going to say something about dreams and relate it to death, but since that pissed of Hare...I'll just ask: why would death be ever lasting?

so instead of getting all mad and pointing out mistakes, why don't you just enlighten us with your profound insight instead?

Because I don't want to get into any long conversations. I only come to TOTSE through force of habit and I'm planning on never posting again. The internet is an utter waste of time, as is any form of interaction with other people, when I can be doing something that actually means something to me and working through Kant's three critiques deeper or contemplating the meaning of being with Heidegger. People, the kind one meets in every day life or on the internet generally, on the other hand, are hopeless and more trouble than they're worth.

Because I don't want to get into any long conversations. I only come to TOTSE through force of habit and I'm planning on never posting again. The internet is an utter waste of time, as is any form of interaction with other people, when I can be doing something that actually means something to me and working through Kant's three critiques deeper or contemplating the meaning of being with Heidegger. People, the kind one meets in every day life or on the internet generally, on the other hand, are hopeless and more trouble than they're worth.

Whatever you want man, the life is your own. And I can agree with you about people. But before you go...

I really, really think you should consider the advise I gave you in the "Whats wrong with me" thread. Honestly.

You are one of my favorite posters. You are an intelligent person. You seem too quick to go on the defensive though, which really isn't the best. But I think you're on your way to finding something great.

Anyways...whatever you do man, be happy.

You didn't quote Obbe and posted directly underneath me, so I was inclined to think you were speaking to me. Sorry for the mistake.

No need to apologize. I didn't take offense, and I understood why someone would make the mistake. We is cool. :D

And you should stay on totse...we've already lost the majority of posters worth replying to. Another wouldn't help! (I've no clue if you consider my posts worthwhile...and that doesn't quite matter...you provide a good deal of insight to this forum. Though it may fall on deaf ears most of the time, there are people who read posts and actually think about them.)

You can call me heartless, but I'd be the first one to murder my family if I really thought it'd save the entire race. Thing is, we'd still fuck like rabbits and over-populate again, stressing the world until life dies out.

No, you wouldn't.

If you really would then murder your siblings and post pics. of their decapitated heads.

Btw, it wouldn't save the entire human race, it would only reduce the population count.

Because I don't want to get into any long conversations. I only come to TOTSE through force of habit and I'm planning on never posting again.

Can you hurry up with that?
I on the other hand do enjoy conversations about god and all you do is spoil the possibility of an interesting one taking place.

I on the other hand do enjoy conversations about god.

Finally.

So then lets get this thread back on track. I can completely understand why so many people dislike organized religions and beliefs about God. Its just like any other system.

But so many people think that when you die, thats it, theres nothing more. Why?

And just like what the threat of going to hell does to people, the concept loosing all awareness frightens the shit out of people. The masses become afraid of death and begin to try and compensate during life, contributing to the selfish materialistic ideals that I believe are responsible for all the shit bogging down society.

But so many people think that when you die, thats it, theres nothing more. Why?

Because there's no reason to believe otherwise? Your body is dead, including the brain that stores all your memories and such. You're dead and nothing will change that

Your body is dead, including the brain that stores all your memories and such.

Yes, it is and 'you' are..I don't disagree with that. From what you're saying, I gather you think consciousness is created by the brain. That, I disagree with.

Personally, I think everything has a consciousness. Plants have been shown to be aware numerous times, although aware of much less then we are. This is that First and Second Dimensional Consciousness I was talking about. Why couldn't a molecule of water be aware? Why not an atom, or electron, even if its only aware of its own existance?

The world teaches us everything is cyclic, why would awareness be any different? If you are correct that only 'life' has consciousness, then if every living thing died would reality still exist with nobody there to observe it?

Quantum physics tells us that the subatomic particles that make up our world are collapsed from waves of probability simply by the act of observation.

Quantum physics tells us that the subatomic particles that make up our world are collapsed from waves of probability simply by the act of observation.

...which, if correct, would mean that during the beginning of the universe there had to be some sort of observer, or else nothing could have happened. Which would indicate that consciousness can reside outside of the text book definition of life, since life could not possibly have existed in those conditions.

Opening up the discussion to a whole new range of possibilities.

Edit- Such as the different dimensional consciousnesses being 'broken down' versions of consciousness at the tenth dimension...which might mean that we are all actually 'one', and that maybe when the set of experiences you refer to yourself as 'you' (the ego) is over, a new set is then experienced.

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

lol, homer

The world teaches us everything is cyclic, why would awareness be any different? If you are correct that only 'life' has consciousness, then if every living thing died would reality still exist with nobody there to observe it?.

Why wouldn't it? It wouldn't matter to anyone anymore but it'd still be there

Why wouldn't it? It wouldn't matter to anyone anymore but it'd still be there

How do you know the physical world isn't a product of consciousness?
Have you ever had a dream you were so sure was real?

How do you know the physical world isn't a product of consciousness?
Have you ever had a dream you were so sure was real?

How do you know you aren't the dream of 30 foot jew who lives in a straw hut on the surface of the sun's inside rollercoaster park in a book that wrote itself?

Useless speculation. I have no reason to believe what I see or feel is fake

Hell if I know, every morning I wake up the last day feels like my earliest childhood memories, distant and blurry. There's speculation for you, maybe I never came home from the walk a few years ago. Even if that was true, what would it matter? Asking questions without answers just gives you a headache, it's like trying to learn how to live without breathing. You just don't have the capability for it sp why bother

^ Hey you're the one making the claim. You are the one who, in response to Oobe's thread, said that things "Would" still be there if there was no consciousness. I'm just suggesting alternatives as to how Oobe's theory may be possible.

Why wouldn't they be? Is there a reason to believe otherwise?

Everything you know about the world is defined by your senses and your personality and everything that makes you you is the culmination of your experiences of the world. Then you suddenly jump to the idea that you are the world. What? Speculating is fun but it gets you nowhere and hence, I wouldn't give it much credence

Why wouldn't it? It wouldn't matter to anyone anymore but it'd still be there

Did you not read my posts? We have discovered through quantum physics that reality is created through observation.

If you are saying that consciousness only exists in lifeforms, and you are saying that reality could exist after (or before) the existence of lifeforms, then that would contradict the collapse of particles from waves which make up reality as defined by quantum physicists.

But you haven't actually stated what you think.

If quantum physicists are correct, then there would have to have been consciousness before lifeforms, because there had to be some form of observer during the beginning of the universe to collapse probability into reality, since life as we know it could not survive in those conditions.

Clearly then this indicates consciousness must also exist in non-lifeforms as well. Consciousness which is furthest from the tenth dimension, yet equal to it.

Is there a reason to believe otherwise?

See my last three posts.

See my last three posts.

Big fat piles of 'what if'

I'm gonna need some proof before I believe that I can affect things by looking at them. Internet claims many a thing true and I'd be a fool to take your word for it

Obbe, I'm aware of the experiment you're talking about but I don't understand it entirely, nor do physicists, so I seriously doubt you do either. I would love you to post your quantum mechanical religious apologetics in mad scientists, where there's a lot of smart people who actually know something about physics, and see what replies you get. In fact, in all seriousness, why don't you? I honestly think it would make some good Mad Scientists material.

I'm not sure I'm aware of the experiment you think I'm thinking of....but theres this one:

Schrödinger's cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat)

Everett many-worlds interpretation & consistent histories

In other words, when the box is opened, the universe (or at least the part of the universe containing the observer and cat) is split into two separate universes, one containing an observer looking at a box with a dead cat, one containing an observer looking at a box with a live cat.

And no, I don't completely understand it.

Personally, I hate the attitudes of most posters in MS. If you want to post anything to do with this there, go right ahead...but I don't feel like being talked down to at the moment.

Pilsu, we've been over proof before. Many parts of my conclusions are based on scientific theories...but theories which are currently well-excepted and used to explain reality by the mainstream.

Don't trust the internet? Then go look in a book. Books are where I found most of my information. But you can't really trust them either.

Schrödinger's cat

Yes, that's what I was referencing.

Personally, I hate the attitudes of most posters in MS. If you want to post anything to do with this there, go right ahead...but I don't feel like being talked down to at the moment.

I can't imagine why you would let their arrogance (something only a few of the posters exhibit) get to you. It's a shame, because it would have made a good thread and I don't know your arguments in and out, so I won't able to defend them. You're not making excuses, are you?

It's a shame, because it would have made a good thread and I don't know your arguments in and out, so I won't able to defend them. You're not making excuses, are you?

Yes, I am.

Well, not '"making'" an excuse...that is my excuse. Many of the posters are products of the system, and close-minded to things like God, or the unification of all. I don't want to even try and face that jury yet.

Besides, only parts of my conclusions are drawn from string theory, from theories I myself do not completely understand. Do you think I would stand a much better chance of defending them then you? What of the parts about Dimensional Consciousness? That begins to enter the realm of philosophy...and they tend to discourage that too.

Maybe once this discussion is over and done, but no promises. Again, if you are truly interested, then feel free to embark on the discussion yourself.

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As long as you're still posting, would you mind informing totse of your profound insight on this matter? Want to tell me what it is that I need to wake up to?

Many of the posters are products of the system, and close-minded to things like God, or the unification of all. I don't want to even try and face that jury yet.

More excuses.

Again, if you are truly interested, then feel free to embark on the discussion yourself.

Again, I have little to no understanding of quantum mechanics, I doubt most the people in My God do and I seriously doubt you (who has admitted so) do too. If you're going to use science for arguments for God, but then state you don't really understand them, then you're off on shaky ground already. That's why it's best you take this to a science forum where people are more read up on things like quantum mechanics instead of saying "they're slaves to the system" that has given you the quantum mechanics you're trying to use to argue for the existence of God. If your argument is shot down, then you can learn from your mistakes.

As long as you're still posting, would you mind informing totse of your profound insight on this matter? Want to tell me what it is that I need to wake up to?

And now you're trying to turn this on me. :)

Oh c'mon OOBE. I wanna hear what they have to say aswell.
What is the basic question you want to ask them? I'm interested in how they think QP relates to God and if scientists findings compliment any particular branch of spiritual beliefs.
If this is basically what you were gonna ask then I'll post the thread if ya want.

If this is basically what you were gonna ask then I'll post the thread if ya want.

I wouldn't recommend that, because they're OBBE's arguments, so he would know them better than anyone else.

And now you're trying to turn this on me. :)

Its sure hard to pull the wool over your eyes. :rolleyes: But seriously, do you have an answer?

If your argument is shot down, then you can learn from your mistakes.

There are contradicting theories in string theory. Besides the uselessness of a philosophical discussion in a science forum, currently no 'side' could 'win'.

What about the experiment do you not understand?

Oh c'mon OOBE. I wanna hear what they have to say aswell.
What is the basic question you want to ask them? I'm interested in how they think QP relates to God and if scientists findings compliment any particular branch of spiritual beliefs.
If this is basically what you were gonna ask then I'll post the thread if ya want.

I personally wasn't going to ask them anything. Hare wants me to describe and defend my concept before them...and I wouldn't know where to begin with that either.

Post your thread there and I will come and post my ideas in it. Lets see what goes down.

But seriously, do you have an answer?

Yes. But I'm not done with you and your reluctance to have a proper "philosophical" or "scientific" discussion with people who actually know what they're talking about.

There are contradicting theories in string theory. Besides the uselessness of a philosophical discussion in a science forum, currently no 'side' could 'win'.

More excuses. It could just be that your theory is completely wrong and fit with none of the scientific interpretations. I see no harm in posting it. Why are you so reluctant? I hope you're not just using dirty tricks and pseudo-science to get people to accept your personal spiritual beliefs and are afraid you'll be shot down if you post them. You're not, are you?

What about the experiment do you not understand?

Still trying to pull the wool over my eyes. ;)

I personally wasn't going to ask them anything. Hare wants me to describe and defend my concept before them...and I wouldn't know where to begin with that either.

Oh please, you've described ideas of yours in plenty of other places before.

Oh please, you've described ideas of yours in plenty of other places before.

There. (http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2012915)

It took me awhile to type all that and think of how to put it. And its not even all down.

Now that thats a thread, how about we get back to your insights?

And seriously, what about the experiment do you not understand?

^ Good job Obbe.

Now that thats a thread, how about we get back to your insights?

I don’t honestly know what great insight you were expecting out of me in this thread. I was simply pissed off that night and amazed that Beany was using an argument no one has used since Plato. I can think of so many things that are wrong with her argument.

(1) I expect she hadn’t bothered looking for things that refute her argument of everything being cyclical: does she believe trees contain souls, that when they are chopped into firewood and burnt, this soul leaves them and lives on? If not, why not? A tree is a living thing too, and what happens to it happens to us: our brain, which is required for our ‘self’ (that I know you will argue isn’t our ‘real’ self) shuts down, as does all the other organs, and they slowly rot until they’re dust that is equivalent to ashes in a gone out fire.

(2) you make a massive assumption: because weather is cyclical and we can think of oppositions like hot and cold that can be turned into one another, then there must be some form of reincarnation too. That’s an assumption.

(3) even if I concede that your assumption is right, it does not require the idea of a soul or afterlife. I can make the argument that time is infinite but compositions of matter finite, therefore, given enough time, some time in the future there will be a composition of matter identical to you that lives their life exactly like you live yours, so it will kind of be like you but nothing from your body has travelled to theirs. That’s cyclical, that’s nature repeating itself, but I’m sure that’s not what you were hoping for.

(4) ceaseless speculation on a next life that may not even exist (and I believe it really doesn’t exist) is dangerous to this life.

PS, this is all off the top of my head. There's so much more wrong with it that I'll probably remember.

Why are you so reluctant?

Because of the general attitude shared among the posters, the sections of the concept which are unrelated to science, and my general lack of motivation to spend the time and waste the energy.

I hope you're not just using dirty tricks and pseudo-science to get people to accept your personal spiritual beliefs and are afraid you'll be shot down if you post them. You're not, are you?

I've already posted it all here, only a few forums away. Wheres the pseudo-science?

But you pushed me to it, so its posted there now. Now we can hear some outside opinions.

You done with me and my reluctance to have a proper "philosophical" or "scientific" discussion with people who actually know what they're talking about, now?

Then lets hear those insights. Open my eyes, awake me from my slumber. I'm asking for it.

Good job Obbe.

Not really, its not the complete concept and theres a bunch of grammatical errors. Its hard to get an idea like that out.

But thanks! :D

I've already responded.

I don’t honestly know what great insight you were expecting out of me in this thread. I was simply pissed off that night and amazed that Beany was using an argument no one has used since Plato.

Really? Cause I really thought you were directing this at more people then Beany:

GTFO. This whole thread just looks to me as if it is filled with people going “there could be, there could be, look at this poor speculative metaphysical argument, there just has to be!” WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Really? Cause I really thought you were directing this at more people then Beany:

That "wake the fuck up" is self-evident. If you don't get what I'm saying there, then you're an imbecile. The whole statement implies I'm saying you're in denial that this is it and to sort out this life instead of speculating on the next. I also said nothing about not directing it at more people than Beany. I was pissed off and I was amazed at her using such an argument.

Has it occurred to you that in finding an explanation to reality that makes sense, I am putting my life in order? I am finding balance and perfect harmony?

And yes you did indicate it was directed at more then one person, when you said that after quoting me and using the word "people". Beany is a 'person'.

Or at least thats how I interpreted your post

Has it occurred to you that in finding an explanation to reality that makes sense, I am putting my life in order? I am finding balance and perfect harmony?

Balance and perfect harmony? No thanks, I don't want to stagnate.

And yes you did, when you said that after quoting me and using the word "people". Beany is a 'person'.

I have no idea what you are talking about now.

I have no idea what you are talking about now.

I wonder if you ever do.

I wonder if you ever do.

Probably not. I don't speak hippy-douche.

Probably not. I don't speak hippy-douche.

Wha's that? I need to brush up on my Egotistical Anthropophobic-ish.

BTW, honestly. Take my advice in that thread of yours. It'll do you good.

I also said nothing about not directing it at more people than Beany. I was pissed off and I was amazed at her using such an argument.

For a start it wasn't an argument. They were ideas to be discussed and explored. But you jumped on the offensive straight way as usual and as usual no such exploration took place. So what if someone else used a similar argument before?

Secondly I'm not plato. I'm a different mind and whether or not the initial idea may be the same or similar, there are different avenues of thought to explore from that.

Thirdly, I'm not a her..... I'm a him. :)

BTW, honestly. Take my advice in that thread of yours. It'll do you good.

I'm not smoking marijuana.

I'm not smoking marijuana.

I meant the first advice.

But actually, yeah that would probably help you too. Or just make you much worse.

i think that people invented god as a way to explain black holes in their knowledge,an explanation for why stuff happen, but even if you know this you still want to belive some higher being is watching over you and helping you. like before a test,"please god if you help me in this test ill do etc.." of course all you did in life was because of you only, but still people can say that god directed you to the right way.... its all a matter of different angels of vision.

These are some of my developing ideas/understandings. And yes a lot of it's speculation, but fuck it I like speculating.

Personally I don't think it's objects that have a consciousness. For instance I don't think chairs, or trees have a consciousness. I think it's more like each individual atom (Or unit of energy) has consciousness and at each possible moment that atom is experiencing itself and its relation to the consciousness of all surrounding atoms through vibration. In this way all the atoms that exist within a tree communicate through vibration and so an individual atom can know the experience of being a tree through itself and the vibrations of all the other atoms in the tree. And it can also experience being a forest through the vibrations of the forest, then the planet, then the universe. In this way a single "unit" of consciousness can know everything. Each individual atom can experience itself as God.

How this relates to us is that we are also the consciousness of an atom that exists somewhere in our body. This atom has the benefit of being at the focal point of the bodies control centre. In other words it's the part of the body that starts off the line of communication to the brain which communicates to the rest of the body what to do. We are the individual indestructible atom which controls this massive machine called the body. Unlike other atoms which are constantly moving throughout the universe we are attached to the body, and although this attachment allows us control, it doesn't allow us the freedom to experience God (Everything) as and when we want. We are too afraid to let go even when we want to.
That is until we die and we no longer experience control since the body no longer works. So we leave on a search for another body to control until we are done with what the human body has to offer.

And that sounds awfully similar to Leibniz's monads. I've had times when I've come up with something and found out someone else has done it already (Foucault being the worst case), so I'm not saying you are, I'm only asking: are you just taking this stuff from wikipedia?

No I'm not taking this from anywhere. I was looking through a book about India that mentioned Hindus believing the soul is about 1000 times smaller that the tip of a hair. That inspired me to post that message but it's stuff I think about anyway.
But I'm gonna check out that name you just mentioned.
Edit: His stuff seems interesting and seems similar to what I wrote. Either way it's irrelevant. Like I said before we are different minds and my ideas come from different inspirations and may lead in different directions.