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samurai0722
2007-06-07, 16:00
ask me anything. everyday im stoped on the street and asked questions about my religious beliefs so i thought why not give you guys a chance to ask as well. let me tell you a little about myself i am a gnostic wiccan i have been practicing for six years now. so come on ask away :D

---Beany---
2007-06-07, 16:57
What do your practices involve?

Tyrion
2007-06-07, 17:48
I was doing some research on the subject, in general. I've found couple of answers but would like to hear from you also.
Why & how its connected to pentagrams and dead cow's?

Lamabot
2007-06-07, 19:59
http://web.archive.org/web/20060209015856/http://www.whywiccanssuck.com/

sh1b1ku
2007-06-07, 21:04
Gnostic Wiccan? And what in the world trad does that come from? Is your coven lineaged? What's the elemental weapon of ether?

Tyrion
2007-06-08, 01:26
http://web.archive.org/web/20060209015856/http://www.whywiccanssuck.com/

I lol'd
and mostly agree with that web page, but its always fun to hear something new....

ArmsMerchant
2007-06-08, 01:46
Are the Gardnerians still snooty?

sirholkms
2007-06-08, 09:50
What does the octagram represent?
What does the hexagram represent?
What is the difference between a pentagram and a pentacle?
That is all....

samurai0722
2007-06-08, 13:39
a gnostic wiccan is a witch (for quick ref. u guys can call me that , but dont do it to every wiccan u see) who studies all religions to find truth and bring peace but practices the wiccan religion. everything from casting circles and spells that help people,bring peace, and glorifie the mother and father gods. the difference between a penagram and the penacle, is that the penacle's fifth point or the spirit point is pointing to heaven (symbolizing in some covens as the first degree of the three degrees). the pentagram differs because the spirt point is pointing to earth(symbolizing the second degree of the three degrees) now in modern times this type of symbol has been used by satanist as there own mark but after the wiccan community caused a fus with the church of satan about using and totaly reversing the meaning of this symbole in the eyes of the public the church of satan announced that it would keep the same basic design but add a goats head to the symbole in order to better repersent the church and its beliefes. now this didnt sotp the other satanist groups from useing this symbole so if you see someone wearing this symbole keep in mind they may be a satanist or a second degree.

samurai0722
2007-06-08, 13:58
the gardniens are a nice bunch of guys (the ones i've met) but again i havent met every one of them some may be snooty but i think most are down to earth people. now the octagram from what i know about it is also called the fariy star and is said if used in certain rituals it can summon faries into ur sight, its also a symboe of healing, fulfilment, and regeration. the hexagram is a symbole of the perfect union of the male and female aspects of the universe and of the human race. as the old saying goes "the true path to heaven lies in women and union"

Rolloffle
2007-06-08, 20:40
Have fun burning up in hell.

Fortunatley this clown is showing how stupid satanic cults like Wicca really are. He spelled "glorify" wrong. :D

Rizzo in a box
2007-06-08, 20:59
Have fun burning up in hell.

Fortunatley this clown is showing how stupid satanic cults like Wicca really are. He spelled "glorify" wrong. :D

Oh, shush.

AngryFemme
2007-06-09, 01:37
now the octagram from what i know about it is also called the fariy star and is said if used in certain rituals it can summon faries into ur sight

I am now riveted by this discussion. MORE faeries! I implore you.

karma_sleeper
2007-06-09, 08:14
the hexagram is a symbole of the perfect union of the male and female aspects of the universe and of the human race. as the old saying goes "the true path to heaven lies in women and union"

What does that saying mean? Is that some allusion to ritualistic sex or marriage or simply that women are especially gifted when it comes to spiritual enlightenment?

ArmsMerchant
2007-06-09, 19:35
Oh, shush.

Yeah, what he said, only less polite.

With all due respect, you fucking moron, Wiccans do not even acknowledge the mythical figure of Satan.

d1gvn
2007-06-10, 02:12
Do you believe in magic?

FullMetalJacket
2007-06-10, 05:42
How come you parade your bullshit as if it's a real religion?

And why do you take the word of a Lumberjack over, say, that of the Boddhisatva?

bain surgeon
2007-06-10, 05:55
Does the general public classsify you as a pagan?

sirholkms
2007-06-10, 08:11
the gardniens are a nice bunch of guys (the ones i've met) but again i havent met every one of them some may be snooty but i think most are down to earth people. now the octagram from what i know about it is also called the fariy star and is said if used in certain rituals it can summon faries into ur sight, its also a symboe of healing, fulfilment, and regeration. the hexagram is a symbole of the perfect union of the male and female aspects of the universe and of the human race. as the old saying goes "the true path to heaven lies in women and union"

Ignore totse they don't know anything about the divine. You really are a wiccan, as am I. I have more questions. After using the ouija board I picked up an evil spirit and it wont leave me alone so I have adapted a ritual from one of my text books to banish it's evil and I just wanted to know what is the magickal number correspondence to 13? Because you have to chant a certain thing 13 times and I think the author of the book is having a piss take at people e.g. the movie 13 ghosts... I am just wonding why 13 is significant? OH and another question :( sorry about all this. Why are spirits afraid of sea salt? Just wonding?

shuu
2007-06-10, 08:15
Yeah, what he said, only less polite.

With all due respect, you fucking moron, Wiccans do not even acknowledge the mythical figure of Satan.

Why do you say 'mythical figure' as though it's something special. Wiccans acknowledge alot of mythical figures, in fact, all of the deities and beings they acknowledge are mythical.
You can't speak for all Wiccans. What makes you so sure there aren't Wiccans who do acknowledge Satan? If they acknowledge so many other mythical figures what makes Satan so special?

AngryFemme
2007-06-10, 11:43
With all due respect, you fucking moron

Niiice.

oc6
2007-06-10, 14:38
If they acknowledge so many other mythical figures what makes Satan so special?

Isn't that backward?

He's just too "special" to even acknowledge?

samurai0722
2007-06-13, 15:31
ok sry i havent written in awhile. th first question was what are faries? in wicca many of us believe that there are many different planes of exsistance and that these planes cross into eachother in time and space and on each plane lives different (what some call) mythical beings such as faries now the reason why most people dont see them is because one they viberate at a different harmonic frenquency than us and two we dont wish to see the. but we could if we wanted to and some people do. they do beacuse the human mind is almost limitless in its abilites and changing our harmonic frenquency to see these faries can be done. now when i said that women are considered to be the path to enlightment that was basied off the tradisional beliefe that both man and women are incompleat by themselfs spiritually. the male aspect is logical and aggressive and the female aspect is emotional and passive. alone as u can see they are incomplete but tougether they are whole and harmionies. now it dosnt matter if the bodily form is male/ female, male/male, female/female, or intersexed. thatis what i ment when i said that quote now yes i do believe in magick and yes the public dose call me a pagan but i dont mind. the sidnifcantes of the number 13 (from what i read ) lies in numerology ( 1+3=4) now 4 is the number of protection, loyality, and dependance. it is also said that juses had 13 apostlels. dark spirits are afraid of salt because it is considered to be a clean and pure substance that holds the white light of the gods and no darkness likes the light. :D

ArgonPlasma2000
2007-06-13, 22:21
Since you believe in magick, would it be unethical of you to curse me if I asked you to?

samurai0722
2007-06-14, 12:46
yes and no, yes because of the law of three and no because you asked me to curse u. but i wouldnt because i only know of a couple of curses and they are old and dangorus

Rolloffle
2007-06-14, 19:43
Yeah, what he said, only less polite.

With all due respect, you fucking moron, Wiccans do not even acknowledge the mythical figure of Satan.

Neither do atheists, but they'll both burn in the same hell.

ArgonPlasma2000
2007-06-14, 20:13
yes and no, yes because of the law of three and no because you asked me to curse u. but i wouldnt because i only know of a couple of curses and they are old and dangorus

Why is it unethical if I ask? I'm rather intrigued as to why this is true as opposed to if I did not ask...

yango wango
2007-06-14, 20:55
Do you believe in an Abrahamic God force? I heard a Wiccan talking on t.v about how some believe in such an energy or being. He said though they believe in it they choose not to worship it. How does this God work in your practice? Basicaly what do you make of what all the Christians, Muslims, and Jews worship? Do you ever try to access this force or is that what you would consider dangerous. How about other Deities that are related to other beliefs? I heard that basically modern Wicca is a combination of New Age beliefs, Celtic Beliefs and Shamanism. I actually find it pretty darn interesting. Do you have a Garden and how do you view plants? Do you think they have spirits? Do you incorporate them into your practice? Or know anything about this? I'm really interested in Plants esspecialy Medicine plants and entheogens I would be interested in hearing your opinion.

Lion eats man
2007-06-14, 20:59
Hmm..dunno If someone already asked this but, how did you go about coming becoming a "gnostic wiccan"? Did someone introduce this to you or what?

countdown2chaos
2007-06-15, 03:10
hm, in interested the same thing w/ the abrahamic god, and what you think of that? and curses and stuff? have you ever cast one on someone? how do you know they work? are there curing spells as well? and what causes those spells to happens? different spirits and power sources and such? im interested. cause i read about all religions nonstop constantly and this is the 1st time ive actaully ever spoken to any1 pagan that i know of, and what do you believe happens to you after you die? itd be awesome if you anwsered all my questions. =D
and to the cureing spells thing, hm, how would you get rid of, say, hmm asthma? because i run cross country and track and such, and bothers me at times? id be way too scared for me to ever do anyspell on it, but say if i wanted to get rid of it, is it possible?

samurai0722
2007-06-21, 13:34
it would still be unethical to curse you because of the law of three (what i do comes back to me three fold)even if you ask me it will still come back and i dont want that on my head .

samurai0722
2007-06-21, 14:14
yes i do believe in a god force but its a force that is spilt between the male and female the logical and chaoitic. many have tried to access these forces but they did not understand themselfesor the universe enough to access it correctly. as a result they themselfes or thoes around them were hurt. i used to have a garden but between work and school the garden has run fallow. but i do believe that every plant has life or carries the devine spark that has givein us life and yes there are spirits that live in nature. fairys are the protectors of nature in my opion. as for medicinal plants yes there are many even some of our own doctors today are relizing that remides that midwifes and healers used centuries ago are valid. how i became a gnostic wiccan was mostly by accident. i was introduced to wicca by my aunt who also practices wicca so i began the year and a day study of the craft and one day i picked up a book on the teachings of the buddha and from there i read every religious text i cuold find. i really didnt know that i was a gnostic wiccan until i read syliva brown's book "if you could see what i see" that is when i relized that i was a gnostic and a wiccan. now as for christians, muslims, and jews i believe that if they truly love god and try to live a good life then it dosnt matter how they pray or the name of the god they pray to its all good as the saying goes"no harm,no fowl"

samurai0722
2007-06-21, 14:27
now i dont know if you read sylivia brown but if you read her book "life on the other side" it will answer your after life question. now as for the asthma it depends on the severty to me it sounds more like a nuscese that only happens when running and i would suggest trying sum breathing excersises and/ or tai chi but im no doctor. so plz be careful when trying anything new and consult a doctor befor trying.

AngryFemme
2007-06-26, 19:56
it would still be unethical to curse you because of the law of three (what i do comes back to me three fold)even if you ask me it will still come back and i dont want that on my head .

O Hell Fury @ the technicalities!! Question:
Would it be unethical for you to curse him on behalf of me?

Nothing horrible, just maybe a constant tic in his left eye or that one syndrome ... (what do they call it?) ... that makes the upper lip quiver uncontrollably like the late Elvis Presley. Either of those two would be great.

Argon, I trust you'd YouTube it for us if it actually works. :D

samurai0722
2007-06-27, 13:02
i only know curses that turn a persons life into a unrelenting series of hellish nightmares that are ment to de a fate worse than death. sorry i just cnt have that on my mind

JumpRopinJesus
2007-06-27, 20:03
Are the Gardnerians still snooty?

Always will be.

Davidius_Green
2007-06-28, 13:44
Please, tell me about djinn (genies). Tell me about their incapability to be around light.

samurai0722
2007-06-29, 13:22
the dijnn are acient dark sprits that have been captured and bound to a physical object not only that they are forced to do there masters bidding no matter howmuch they dont want to. but be careful they have the wisdom of the ages and will try to trick you at every turn. they hate the light because the light is a representation of the god and goddess whom they turned there backs on in the begining.

bangbangsilverhammer
2007-06-30, 06:47
What makes you so sure there aren't Wiccans who do acknowledge Satan? If they acknowledge so many other mythical figures what makes Satan so special?

Wiccans and/or witches do not acknowledge Satan because it is pure evil and hate. Wiccans/witches adopt dieties that have a variety of relatable (human) emotions.

Some Wiccans choose to work with the Christian pantheon, and some even include Satan. However, most do not because Christian God and Satan are seperate entities of good and evil, there is no traditional place for a female diety, and Christianity has forever looked down upon witchcraft.

bangbangsilverhammer
2007-06-30, 06:53
I just wanted to know what is the magickal number correspondence to 13? Because you have to chant a certain thing 13 times and I think the author of the book is having a piss take at people e.g. the movie 13 ghosts... I am just wonding why 13 is significant?

Thirteen is significant because there are thirteen powers of the witch. After much training, the thirteen powers of the universe are given to the witch. They come through coven ceremony or granted one at a time as you travel your path.

sirholkms
2007-06-30, 11:31
ok sry i havent written in awhile. th first question was what are faries? in wicca many of us believe that there are many different planes of exsistance and that these planes cross into eachother in time and space and on each plane lives different (what some call) mythical beings such as faries now the reason why most people dont see them is because one they viberate at a different harmonic frenquency than us and two we dont wish to see the. but we could if we wanted to and some people do. they do beacuse the human mind is almost limitless in its abilites and changing our harmonic frenquency to see these faries can be done. now when i said that women are considered to be the path to enlightment that was basied off the tradisional beliefe that both man and women are incompleat by themselfs spiritually. the male aspect is logical and aggressive and the female aspect is emotional and passive. alone as u can see they are incomplete but tougether they are whole and harmionies. now it dosnt matter if the bodily form is male/ female, male/male, female/female, or intersexed. thatis what i ment when i said that quote now yes i do believe in magick and yes the public dose call me a pagan but i dont mind. the sidnifcantes of the number 13 (from what i read ) lies in numerology ( 1+3=4) now 4 is the number of protection, loyality, and dependance. it is also said that juses had 13 apostlels. dark spirits are afraid of salt because it is considered to be a clean and pure substance that holds the white light of the gods and no darkness likes the light. :D


Thank you so much you are so knolagable.

sirholkms
2007-06-30, 11:45
Man this is a good thread. I love the views and opinions expressed in this thread.

Do you think the god and the goddess (which of cause are the male and female representations of the divine) are good, evil or some thing else? I am just curious to see your opinion on this.

Oh and do you think it would be wise to bind a dabbler so that he can't harm him self or others from his lack of knowledge because he claims he curses people or would that be taking the three fold law into my own hands and not letting his own karma deal with him?

Well yeah great thread.

suck_my_muffin
2007-06-30, 17:39
This is amazing, I've learned so much just from this one thread.

Ok, this one isn't too hard, but if you can cast a curse on someone, can you also do the opposite and either heal them of sickness/depression or bring them some kind of good fortune or happiness? And will the "law of three" still apply?

evilman
2007-07-01, 02:48
ok few questians but to start of i am kindof my own form of satanist so you don't have to explain magic to me but why are most wiccans about peace and harmony? because i can be like that sometimes but i think that to be accomplished in any of the occult you must understand that there are both evil and good aspects of magick and everything else when neither aspect is necesarily good or bad

evilman
2007-07-01, 02:51
Ignore totse they don't know anything about the divine. You really are a wiccan, as am I. I have more questions. After using the ouija board I picked up an evil spirit and it wont leave me alone so I have adapted a ritual from one of my text books to banish it's evil and I just wanted to know what is the magickal number correspondence to 13? Because you have to chant a certain thing 13 times and I think the author of the book is having a piss take at people e.g. the movie 13 ghosts... I am just wonding why 13 is significant? OH and another question :( sorry about all this. Why are spirits afraid of sea salt? Just wonding?

im not a wiccan but you should just try cleaning your aura and light body
also how are you so sure its negative go into a meditative trance and see what it wants and then you can be sure

evilman
2007-07-01, 02:56
Why do you say 'mythical figure' as though it's something special. Wiccans acknowledge alot of mythical figures, in fact, all of the deities and beings they acknowledge are mythical.
You can't speak for all Wiccans. What makes you so sure there aren't Wiccans who do acknowledge Satan? If they acknowledge so many other mythical figures what makes Satan so special?

also i feel it is useful to never call something mythical because you never now because in my practices i have often contacted a deity that refers to itself by the many names of satan(Ea,Enki,Amon Ra,satan, satanamas,lucifer, i could go on) so im not going to impress my beliefs upon anyone but to me he is real

evilman
2007-07-01, 03:00
yes and no, yes because of the law of three and no because you asked me to curse u. but i wouldnt because i only know of a couple of curses and they are old and dangorus

i could because my morals are diffrent and no offense but i think the law of three can suck it. but it would barely be affective because i don't hate you so i wouldn't have the energys possible