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Phayder92889
2007-06-16, 04:17
I will spill no blood after dark.
I will not fight, unless as a last resort.
I will not hesitate to protect another.
I will maintain cleanliness of myself and my surroundings.
I will actively seek to better myself in every way.
I will not imbibe any substance that will distort my perceptions of reality, except as a last resort.
I will seek peace in all things first.
I will accept that I am an imperfect being at my core, but I can bring myself closer through the pursuit of enlightenment.
I will find and appreciate the beauty in all things.
I will not avoid a necessary task.
I will adhere to a strict regimen of both diet and exercise to physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually prepare myself.
I will not accept any charity; The path I cut through this world is my own, and none shall share in its creation.These are the laws I'm going to live by. It pretty well covers all the important stuff.
Any Thoughts on it?
countdown2chaos
2007-06-16, 04:48
sounds great to me. =D
x.x
read my my religion thread.
and mmhm? i wanna adopt that =D
Phayder92889
2007-06-16, 18:18
...Yeah... After reading yours, it didn't seem to cover much in the way of actual salvation or anything like that. Seemed like a lot of Christianity with some catholic mythology thrown in.
I thought about this for a while, and these came to me while I was meditating. Some of them I'm already doing, some of these I need to work on, but I'll eventually be able to live consistently by these laws.
bain surgeon
2007-06-17, 01:00
I don't like 1 or 6. Mostly because I don't get 1, and drugs can do wonders for spirituality.
good stuff.
not specific, but still good.
make a 12 page guide explaining each point.
Rizzo in a box
2007-06-17, 02:48
Not bad.
AngryFemme
2007-06-17, 04:14
I liked it so much, I could not resist to responding to each and every point:
I will spill no blood after dark.
What is the significance of darkness, versus light?
I will not fight, unless as a last resort.
Good philosophy to live by. Kudos, good man!
I will not hesitate to protect another.
And I thought chivalry died right alongside punk rock! +1 for bravery
I will maintain cleanliness of myself and my surroundings.
now THAT'S what I'm talking about! *\o/* Cleanliness is next to Awesomeness.
I will actively seek to better myself in every way.
I think that same thing every morning while I'm brushing my teeth and contemplating life through a fogged-over bathroom mirror.
I will not imbibe any substance that will distort my perceptions of reality, except as a last resort.
This is where it starts sounding like a 12-step program. You lose me here.
I will seek peace in all things first.
...and second? Do tell.
I will accept that I am an imperfect being at my core, but I can bring myself closer through the pursuit of enlightenment.
Here, I do the opposite. I intentionally pump myself up where perfection is concerned, then make a game of talking myself down from tripping light narcissio on overkill. Confidence is key, and if bullshitting yourself occasionally to make yourself appear Large & In-Charge works, then try that route. I try to be my own cheering section, versus worst critic.
I will find and appreciate the beauty in all things.
This is where I humble myself, and bow down. I feel grateful to take witness to it all.
I will not avoid a necessary task.
I envy you. I procrastinate like a motherfucker.
I will adhere to a strict regimen of both diet and exercise to physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually prepare myself.
Aren't you considering joining the military? This particular oath might be doing some serious overtime, if that's the case.
I will not accept any charity; The path I cut through this world is my own, and none shall share in its creation.
12 is my favorite Oath of Yours yet! Can you feel the applause?
These are the laws I'm going to live by. It pretty well covers all the important stuff.
Any Thoughts on it?
Just thanks for sharing with us! Your writings are always a pleasure to read.
:)
Phayder92889
2007-06-17, 04:38
For you, Mr. 23
1: I feel that I can only be judged accurately by the two most powerful elements of our creation: The Sun, and The Sea (water in general, but there's more of it there). Killing anything or fighting anything outside of the sight of either is sin, because judgment should be cast immediately and without pause.
2: Basic mantra of martial arts, and something good to live by in general.
3: I hate the principal of diffused responsibility (The idea that the more people who witness an act of violence, the less likely that any of them is to act on its injustice)
4: One of the ones I need to work on. My room is a mess 99% of the time, but I do keep myself very clean.
5: Keeping things on the up-stroke, as it were.
6: I don't believe that I should take anything that'll mess with my already flawed perceptions of the world. I will take painkillers for a surgery, or whatever type of drug is necessary to keep me sane/healthy/alive, but none more than the barest minimum
7: Goes with #2, but bigger. I've started listening to classical music/progressive techno/whatever the hell Rob Dougan does, to find more peaceful ways of thought and action.
8: I am never going to be perfect. There is always something bigger, badder, more spiritually enlightened than I am or will ever be. The most that I can do is be humble in their presence, so I may take something great from the experience I share with them.
9: Works with #7 and my explanation of #8, so that I can better see the world around me.
10: Another that I need to work on, in some circumstances. I left it vague so I could push the limit in either direction.
11: Yup. Military will assist in this, but I mean more like eating less red meat, more veggies/fruits/whole grains overall, along with rigorous exercise. I have collected some killer recipes which I've been playing with, by the by...
12: I've never had an easy time accepting charity. I've always seen it as an admission of personal weakness. I said in #8 that I am imperfect, but I am not weak. Charity is what my father capitalized on, it's how he managed to steal with a clear conscience, and people didn't mind that he did it. I'll never accept it again.
wow, thats basically what i try to live my life by... although the whole sun/spilling blood stuff i'm not too into. But i'm an incredibly peaceful person in general so i wouldn't be spilling any blood to begin with :P
I also wont take any drugs, although i do drink a little... but i mean a pathetic, tiny amount just to make a party more fun... but thats another story.
I too have to work on the procrastination part... right now i'm procrastinating an english essay due like 3 weeks ago lol
countdown2chaos
2007-06-17, 23:01
...Yeah... After reading yours, it didn't seem to cover much in the way of actual salvation or anything like that. Seemed like a lot of Christianity with some catholic mythology thrown in.
I thought about this for a while, and these came to me while I was meditating. Some of them I'm already doing, some of these I need to work on, but I'll eventually be able to live consistently by these laws.
actual salvation, meh. just be good dude. that's your salvation there, i don't believe God would punish you. every abrahamic religion. (and being brought up on christianity) your always told how loving god is, and since hell was made up by zaroastianism and was adopted into judaism 300 years before christ, i dont believe God would punish you, and the old testiment never mentions a hell either. so, there's really no salvation, thought i believe you can fall to yourself in the afterlife, and that can affect you in many ways, take ghost for example, yes i believe in ghost, and why are they ghost? because they're obssessed with something and cant let go of their earthly needs and wont ascend into heaven. maybe you wont become a ghost persay, but you get the general idea. =P
countdown2chaos
2007-06-17, 23:05
oh and also, i hope you got the point that i dont think jesus is god, and you may find it odd, but i adopted it from the book of urantia (i suggest every1 to read it), but umm, yeah, i think he's an angel, and the archangel michael to be exact, and just from doing that, the catholic part? im sure theyd say i would go to hell just for saying that. ;) and since i dont believe in hell, well. lol, and i believe in angels wayyy differently than they do. just didnt to put that in, incase you didnt understand x.x
oh, and what did you think about my religion anyways after reading it? if you read all of it.
Phayder92889
2007-06-17, 23:19
It seems a bit shallow, all in all. Like it was cannab-inspired and quickly jotted down without any distinct structure to the religion itself. I don't have a specific religion, but I'm pretty close to Buddhist. it's tough to create a dogma that you can follow, and will get meaning from life by following it.
Mine's an existential one, in that it keeps me around, but doesn't give me false hope, or push me toward suicide.
kurdt318
2007-06-18, 02:42
You mind if I print out a copy and tape it on my wall?
pigeonata
2007-06-18, 03:08
1.stop trying to be philosophical, it makes the smartest of people look like idiots think about it if somebody you know said though shall not kill instead of killing is wrong i would probably smack the idiot because nobodys spoken like that for 2000 years
2.I remember in 7th grade i was in the detention room and the only pastime was the book animal farm I suggest picking it up, its short and its a good read
3. Ive got nothing better to do than post a motto i wont follow on a forum thats the message i got.
Kablisti
2007-06-18, 03:22
+1 Rep
Phayder92889
2007-06-18, 06:12
1.stop trying to be philosophical, it makes the smartest of people look like idiots think about it if somebody you know said though shall not kill instead of killing is wrong i would probably smack the idiot because nobodys spoken like that for 2000 years
2.I remember in 7th grade i was in the detention room and the only pastime was the book animal farm I suggest picking it up, its short and its a good read
3. Ive got nothing better to do than post a motto i wont follow on a forum thats the message i got.
1: I'm not trying to be philosophical. These came to me through weeks of meditation on my life and what I've done and what I want to do.
2: I've read animal farm. It doesn't cover the true depth of contemporary social problems as efficiently as you'd think. Its use of extended metaphor and odd syntax makes it a very shallow read. Heart of Darkness is a much better commentary, but much harder to read, as well.
3: I like this forum because it has a very good cross-section of humanity here to speak with on all sorts of topics. I wholly intend on following these, but it isn't a fast process. I cleaned my room today and meditated for an hour. I then did 50 push-ups and 30 squat-thrusts. I'm doing cardio tomorrow.
I'll drop at least 30% body fat by this time next year. What'll you be doing then? I'll be joining the Navy.
EDIT: I just looked through your posts. You're a spoiled little fuck who thinks he's hot shit. Lemme tell ya something, scooter, your little world is gonna come down around you once some shit happens. When I was your age, my dad had already died, I'd already been through one life-saving surgery, and I already had a criminal record. That's the definition of a fucked up life, baby. Since then, I've had two jobs (IT assistant for the school district I was attending, Busser at a mexican restaurant), stayed clean and sober, and tried to make myself a better person. It sounds like you're gonna be a real griefer once you get out into the real world. I just hope that somebody will take pity on you when you realize that all the shit you've done so far hasn't amounted to anything. Do you know what a well-formatted resume looks like? Ever applied for 30 jobs so you could help your mom pay bills? Ever gotten 29 calls that rejected you on the grounds that you're just not what they're looking for?
I urge you to examine your life as something other than easy. Do you know your parents? Really know them? Apparently they haven't been doing a hell of a job. Does daddy drink? Mommy? Do they fight a lot? Maybe they're too high to care about you or your brother, or they were young when they had you and you fucked up their young lives? Maybe you're the product of an abusive relationship that she couldn't bring herself to abort.
I'm born of booze and luck. My mom wasn't supposed to have any kids, biologically. Her womb was about as hospitable as the surface of mercury, but I came out of her just fine. So did my brother.
There's a good 7 years between you and your brother. Why do you think that is? Maybe you were the kid that brought about the shotgun wedding, the one that fucked over your dad, graduating from high-school. Your brother may be the planned one, with you as the accident. You seem to get bought off, mostly. Who gets $250 on his birthday, anyway? I've never gotten more than $30, all told. I saved for 2 months to buy my Nintendo DS Lite, with my own money.
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I'd put money that he's the reason his parents got married. They can't be more than 30, now. If they are, I'll be shocked.
Phayder92889
2007-06-18, 18:46
You mind if I print out a copy and tape it on my wall?
Sure, dude. I don't care. If I can help somebody, I'm doing better than I thought.
ArmsMerchant
2007-06-18, 19:34
Why reject charity?
Someone wants to help you, why deny them the pleasure?
Phayder92889
2007-06-18, 19:45
I don't like it when people take pity on me. That's what I see charity as. When somebody feels that I'm so hopeless/helpless that they need to take time out of their consumerist, job-oriented, self-serving life to help me, that's low.
That, and my dad used to bring my brother and I to the food bank to get extra food. He used his kids to skim off the system even more than he already did.
That, and I've always had problems with receiving gifts or compliments. I've always had to work for what I get, so I feel that it's more honorable to work and receive, than to just receive.
AngryFemme
2007-06-19, 02:21
Why reject charity?
Why not pass it down to someone who may be in greater need, or feeling more hardships? As bad as you have it, there is always someone else out there in a little worse shape than you are. Pass it down the line. It'll come back to you when you manage to overcome the obstacles that made you believe that accepting charity may have been your only hope.
The whole "no spilling blood after dark" thing is a bit weird, but otherwise that's a pretty solid code.
Phayder92889
2007-06-19, 06:52
Hey, it's my code! :p You don't have to live by it if you don't choose to. Hell, I don't even have to live by it if I don't choose to.
Dunno why the first one keeps people stumbling, it's not that difficult to grasp...
ArmsMerchant
2007-06-19, 18:51
I don't like 1 or 6. Mostly because I don't get 1, and drugs can do wonders for spirituality.
Speaking as someone with over 50 years experience in various sorts of spirituality and forty years experience of doing drugs, I totally and strongly disagree.
Why cant the moon judge your actions?
Phayder92889
2007-06-25, 07:31
The moon had no hand anyone's creation. The sun provided every bit of energy we've utilized since before recorded history. The sea nourished us with food, and water in general is the basis for all life on the planet.
The moon is desolate, has no light of its own, and outside of a marker for the geological time and the driving force behind the tides, it doesn't do much.
I consider the moon the eyes of the sun at night, it has no light of its own, the light that is seen is that of the sun. Couldn't you consider it the sun's eyes during the night?
Edit: Its also the driving force of the tides, meaning it controls the sea which you consider worthy of being able to judge your actions. While the moon is less "useful" than the sea, it has a great deal of power of it.
Phayder92889
2007-06-28, 06:09
Eh, that's a pretty good way to look at it.
1 will now be "I will spill no blood outside of the sight of the sun, moon, or sea"