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shitty wok
2007-06-25, 05:27
Okay, so the Talmud, Bible and Qur'an think the evil practise of slavery is no problemo. Is there an active religion that denounces slavery?
fallinghouse
2007-06-25, 05:34
Why is slavery evil?
---Beany---
2007-06-25, 06:19
Okay, so the Talmud, Bible and Qur'an think the evil practise of slavery is no problemo.
Do they?
chumpion
2007-06-26, 04:01
Do they?
Only if you read the actual scriptures, and take them at face value. I think most religions have moved on, and now pick and choose the bits they follow.
It's called progress, ya'll...
Blackwell
2007-06-26, 04:52
Okay, so the Talmud, Bible and Qur'an think the evil practise of slavery is no problemo. Is there an active religion that denounces slavery?
Laveyan satanism I think if you credit that as a religion.
Toddler Fondler
2007-06-28, 22:23
When the Bible was written, slavery was common as a means of welfare. Bums sold themselves into slavery because it's better than rotting in the gutter. You get food, shelter, clothing, etc, and you're a servant. People even put their kids into slavery because it offered a better life than they could provide for their kids. The Bible tells you you're not supposed to murder or horribly harm your slaves, because apparently that had become a problem. You guys seriously need to do some research. Jesus Christ.
shitty wok
2007-06-28, 22:42
When the Bible was written, slavery was common as a means of welfare. Bums sold themselves into slavery because it's better than rotting in the gutter. You get food, shelter, clothing, etc, and you're a servant. People even put their kids into slavery because it offered a better life than they could provide for their kids. The Bible tells you you're not supposed to murder or horribly harm your slaves, because apparently that had become a problem. You guys seriously need to do some research. Jesus Christ.
You are pro-Slavery?!? ROFL. Let me ask, troll or garden variety dumbass?
Toddler Fondler
2007-06-28, 23:44
You are pro-Slavery?!? ROFL. Let me ask, troll or garden variety dumbass?
I am a troll but servantude was a means of survival back then. You are clearly not thinking outside your privileged Western civilization existence and looking at the big picture and how shitty life was back then. Remember, it was only a few hundred years ago that people were executed for stealing horses in Europe. Times change, dipshit.
SAMMY249
2007-06-29, 00:14
I cant believe I agree with a Toddler Fondler.
ArmsMerchant
2008-06-21, 19:57
Bump.
shitty wok
2008-06-24, 03:38
looking at the big picture and how shitty life was back then. .
Back then? But I thought the Bible was the "eternal truth", a perfect guideline for mankind; if the Bible was meant for society 2000 years ago, then it has no place in the 21st century
Toddler Fondler
2008-06-24, 19:46
Back then? But I thought the Bible was the "eternal truth", a perfect guideline for mankind; if the Bible was meant for society 2000 years ago, then it has no place in the 21st century
Christianity changes with the times. That's kind of a main point of the New Testament, fyi. Jesus got rid of a whole bunch of silly rules and put new silly rules in their place. It's meant to evolve over time. When people mention slavery you probably imagine hordes of Africans packed into ships and sent to America to be beaten and raped, etc. Well, that's not what it was. I'm not too sure what you're arguing about, but it's most likely semantics.
Why is slavery evil?
Slavery is evil because it directly conflicts with the Western ideology of individualism.
Liberty, freedom, all that shit is derivative of individualism.
So, Western Civ says slavery is evil because it conflicts with Western Civ's teachings.
KikoSanchez
2008-06-24, 22:45
When the Bible was written, slavery was common as a means of welfare. Bums sold themselves into slavery because it's better than rotting in the gutter. You get food, shelter, clothing, etc, and you're a servant. People even put their kids into slavery because it offered a better life than they could provide for their kids. The Bible tells you you're not supposed to murder or horribly harm your slaves, because apparently that had become a problem. You guys seriously need to do some research. Jesus Christ.
Indentured servitude isn't the same as slavery. If you can join voluntarily, that at the very least, seperates it from slavery. Not to mention, capital S Slavery was a healthy ongoing institution 2,000 years ago and before. From Egypt to Greece...it's how empires were built.
shitty wok
2008-06-25, 20:19
Christianity changes with the times. That's kind of a main point of the New Testament, fyi. Jesus got rid of a whole bunch of silly rules and put new silly rules in their place. It's meant to evolve over time. When people mention slavery you probably imagine hordes of Africans packed into ships and sent to America to be beaten and raped, etc. Well, that's not what it was. I'm not too sure what you're arguing about, but it's most likely semantics.
Where does it say that ALL laws are subject to change?
Oh by the way
Matthew 5:18-19
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
JesuitArtiste
2008-06-27, 10:33
Where does it say that ALL laws are subject to change?
Oh by the way
Matthew 5:18-19
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
Love is the fulfillment of the Law....
Gotta go to work; you want verses, Google it.
harry_hardcore_hoedown
2008-06-27, 11:57
Where does it say that ALL laws are subject to change?
Oh by the way
Matthew 5:18-19
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.
He's not defending the religion, just explaining it. The whole purpose of God's "son" was to distract people from those parts of the Old Testament. And that passage was from the New Testament, but it's going to make it hard for them to update the Bible again.