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Deoz
2007-07-23, 14:41
Often I see people [on this very forum] copy & paste exhaustive lists or links to those which they know little next to nothing about from some type of Bible skeptic website and then go "LOLOLOLOL ur bible got teh contradictions". (obviously this example is too extreme but you get the idea)

I didn't make this thread to address the so called discrepancies or whatever else, but rather discuss why you guys do that. I know for a fact some of these are easily reconciled.

Lord. Better Than You
2007-07-23, 15:10
To The OP:

It's true, most people aren't really looking to listen to what other people say, they're really out to boy/pwn/own those that disagree.

But as for me searching for truth?

I MAKE my truth.

(due to the realisation that nothing can be certain and my mind and perception is the result of my actions and feelings)

(I'd also like to add that if I were to somehow live outside of logicality and understand truth I would have different views)

(I'd like to add something else, I realise I am stating the obvious by saying that I would have different views if I had a different "mind")

jackketch
2007-07-23, 22:27
The Truth is out there, Sculley.

..the lies are inside your mind (Pratchett).

Rolloffle
2007-07-23, 23:33
I MAKE my truth.

Truth comes from God and his word.

Satan wants you to believe that you are your own god so that he can be your god, satan has been using this trick since the garden of Eden.

Genesis 3:1-6

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

Lord. Better Than You
2007-07-24, 00:50
Truth comes from God and his word.

Satan wants you to believe that you are your own god so that he can be your god, satan has been using this trick since the garden of Eden.

Genesis 3:1-6

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

I don't like to be dismissive, but I'm not taking what you're saying to heart.

The Bible was NOT written by Jesus but his followers, who twisted his words greatly.

Then the romans (the people who crucified Jesus in the first place) institutionalized "Christianity" and repressed any other Christian sects.

Many people argued about the philosophical and political implications of the old and new testament - so they altered it to fit to their ideas.

See, they wanted an empire under ONE religion, so they made it quite totalitarian.

Ever since then, it has been reinterpreted through the ages.

So make an argument instead of quoting the Bible.



But then again, you're probably a troll.

Deoz
2007-07-24, 02:16
To The OP:

I MAKE my truth.


The government from 1984 also made their own truth. :D

DarkMage35
2007-07-24, 12:14
The truth? Nah. I am searching for the good.

Prometheum
2007-07-24, 18:17
Sadly, most people on this forum are just out to bitchPWN the other side of the fence. Its almost tiring. It is tiring. I haven't posted here in months, because every thread is the same.

But Rolloffle is an ignorant dickhead anyways. WATCH OUT ROLL, SATAN IS WATCHING U OMG!

Obbe
2007-07-24, 22:46
Truth is just a matter of perspective.

random_jew
2007-07-25, 01:56
The truth is that jacks a shit mod.

Fuck god.

KevinK
2007-07-25, 02:39
Truth lies with teh buttseks o1lo111o11

What did you expect ?

gogetalife13579
2007-07-25, 03:26
Sadly, most people on this forum are just out to bitchPWN the other side of the fence. Its almost tiring. It is tiring. I haven't posted here in months, because every thread is the same.

But Rolloffle is an ignorant dickhead anyways. WATCH OUT ROLL, SATAN IS WATCHING U OMG!

Sounds like you are the ignorant dickhead to me jumping on him for posting a story outta the bible.

Hexadecimal
2007-07-25, 07:53
If any of us were really searching for the truth, wouldn't we just kill ourselves and find out once and for all?

MilkAndInnards
2007-07-25, 09:35
Truth is just a matter of perspective.

Most wise words so far

987royalman
2007-07-26, 03:55
We don't know why people do it. It's most likely because they can't think of a legit reason on their own.

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As far as my reason for downing teh bible (and religion in general):

The truth is that religion has been stained by man.

As I said before, everything involving religion has been affected, and therefore altered, by the perspective of man.

People are imperfect, thus making organized religion rather unbelievable.

I can't believe what someone says about religion due to the fact that it's from their perspective. Despite their fear tactics used or their wisdom behind it, it's up to me to judge it and believe what I want accordingly.

ArmsMerchant
2007-07-27, 18:26
I am on the ame page as LBTY--we do create our own reality. We are not in the world--the world is in us. And we therefore create our own truth, at least at a personal level.

That said, there is a Higher Reality, which includes the following: we are All One; our essential self, the soul, is eternal, immutable; God is love; our only enemy is fear.

Lord. Better Than You
2007-07-27, 20:17
The government from 1984 also made their own truth. :D

I'd like to point out they made humanities truth, not their own truth.

FreedomHippie
2007-07-28, 05:59
I can deff agree that i believe what is true is only what we individualy accept as true for ourselves. Think of someone who is mentally unstable or retarded. For one thing, labeling that person unstable or retarded lies within us. The more important aspect of bringing that up though is what do those people see as "true"? I cant personally say but im sure its quite different. When I say true though its much more than just the meaning it has on a true or false test in 6th grade. What you accept as true is everything. What color is your shirt? How do you know its that color? Truth is your own perception and acceptance.

jackketch
2007-07-28, 12:40
The truth is that jacks a shit mod.

Fuck god.

Whysies?