This thread discusses the capability of the holiest of the holy to do something equally un-holy.

One would assume that due to the casualty of omnipotence that God would indeed be able to commit sin.

Perhaps this is an explanation of the apocalypse??

Perhaps from a different understanding of God.



If God is All, then of course.

If All is One, then what would the difference be?

Perhaps from a different understanding of God.



If God is All, then of course.

If All is One, then what would the difference be?

I was hoping for a christian viewpoint on the matter, but you are right, of course.

but you are right, of course.

Awww, thank you. :D

If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?

If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if Chuck Norris popped a wood?

If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?

My opinion would be no, because he is the embodiment of forgiveness AND sin.

Basically a win-win situation.

:)

Now i see where some of my recent thoughts have come from, i.e; if god felt like it, he could send people to hell for being good for the wrong reasons.

If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?

My opinion would be no, because he is the embodiment of forgiveness AND sin.

Basically a win-win situation.

:)

Now i see where some of my recent thoughts have come from, i.e; if god felt like it, he could send people to hell for being good for the wrong reasons.

EDIT: Of course, this means that god is spontaneous.

Since God is all wise it would never be deemed a sin, but a necessary act for the greater good.

it's by definition impossible. if God sins, God is no longer God.

i would think that destroying humanity with a great flood is a sin, seeing as it's mass murder and all, but i don't know. what say you, christians?

does a god not choose what is a sin, and what isnt, and what conditions are attached.

for example
I am the christian god
adultery is a sin
i commited adultery
therefore, i commited a sin

BUT

because i am god, i choose what is a sin, and what conditions apply to it
i chose adultery to be a sin
exempting me is a condition
i choose to apply this condition to this sin
therefore, i did not commit a sin

does a god not choose what is a sin, and what isnt, and what conditions are attached.

for example
I am the christian god
adultery is a sin
i commited adultery
therefore, i commited a sin

BUT

because i am god, i choose what is a sin, and what conditions apply to it
i chose adultery to be a sin
exempting me is a condition
i choose to apply this condition to this sin
therefore, i did not commit a sin

Do me a favour and forward this post to every christian you know.

does a god not choose what is a sin, and what isnt, and what conditions are attached.

for example
I am the christian god
adultery is a sin
i commited adultery
therefore, i commited a sin

BUT

because i am god, i choose what is a sin, and what conditions apply to it
i chose adultery to be a sin
exempting me is a condition
i choose to apply this condition to this sin
therefore, i did not commit a sin

No not quite.

Since sin is an action that separates a person from god. And since God is all-powerful he cannot be separated from himself. Therefore God cannot sin,.

since god isn't a living breathing thing as much as an entity he can't commit a sin. Things he creates can commit sins because well, we make the rules of what a sin is, I believe that basic morals are ingrained in to our DNA, the ability to differentiate between wrong and right.

I guess that I also believe that experience/knowledge/ the ability to learn, per say also passes down through genetics, but I don't know.

Well, using a Judeo-Christian version of God for the sake of arguement, I think that yes, it is perfectly possible for God to commit an action that for humans would be a sin.

But just because God can do so, doesn't mean he would do so.

Furthermore, there would be no reprecussions if God were to commit such an act, since the justification of those acts being sins is because God says they are, and can punish humanity for commiting them.

And who's going to punish God?

I was hoping for a christian viewpoint on the matter, but you are right, of course.

Christianity says God has never sinned.

In my reality, there is no such thing as "sin," that being a concept invented by the priesthood to help keep the flock in line.

Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious? Or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?

Since God is all wise it would never be deemed a sin, but a necessary act for the greater good.


Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

^ Cool

Of course God could sin. His subjects might say that he is perfect and everything but that would just be sucking up to him. They want him to favor them so that they won't be smited but that doesn't mean that it's necessarily true.

In my reality, there is no such thing as "sin," that being a concept invented by the priesthood to help keep the flock in line.

Very true, which is the hidden premise of this thread.

It may not be the case in all circumstances, but i'll guarentee that at some point the vatican has been infiltrated.

I guess you could say i'm just trying to find the 'true balance' of religion, as in; how much power should christianity be weilding in the "name of good"