I want to see more debates between Atheism and Islam

Or Atheism - Jew

Islam - Jew

Anything seriously. I testify that there's only One God to worship and I testify that Muhammed was the last messanger and the last prophet.

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Joseph Smith would rape Allah and Muhammed. :P

There...now it's Mormons versus Muslims, hahaha.

It's atheists versus Christians because those are the two big groups in the connected world.

Neither group has come to realize they're both sheep to the slaughter...arguing over something as senseless as beliefs while the world around them crumbles into despair. Let's argue on totse while AIDS and starvation wipe out the race! Funny thing is, if I didn't predict what I'm about to, it would happen without fail: Atheists will bring up points about Christian influences on birth control in Africa (yeah, the Pope controls fucking Africa...not the warlords and street gangs!) and Christians will talk about all their charity efforts (that line the pockets of the assholes running them). Fucking blind as bats and too conceited to care...all they give a shit about is proving someone wrong so they can feel all smart and enlightened. Why give a shit when you can get a fix?

Because 99% of the people are christians or atheists.

Muslims don't know how to use da internetz.
And Jews don't want to pay for the connection.

Okay, I'm believing in God and I totally agree with atheist people out there.

The Bible is so corrupted its not even funny.

Christianity is full of contradictions, lies, man's words, full of versions that differ one to the others (alteast 100 versions spread out all around the world, and christians who are reading this, don't deny it). In Islam, its totally the opposite.

We have a Qur'an that, till this day, has been preserved for 1400 years and not been even changed(not even a letter). We worship One God, not 3-in-1 pack, which many christians dont even know how to explain it, or in a better term, define it (which is the whole irony of this religion, they can't explain the trinity and this religion is totally based on that. Islam is a way of life, a man-to-God relation. No associate. All the prophets (Jesus is part of them) came with only one message, to worship one God.

Allah is Too Glorious, even, to have a son. The whole concept of ''Jesus dying to forgive everyone's sin'' is just a weird concept. It's like sayin', alright since I believe jesus I could rape, kill, torture, steal since Jesus died for my sins, guess I have nothing really to worry about? Oh yeah, and what really does the pope really do? Get revelation from God? or the Priest that forgives you, because basically, they get the revelation of God to forgive you? but.. Jesus didn't already payed his blood for you? You see, it's weird but for a normal person it could see it as ..normal.

Atheist may rejoice themselves -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=EamNk1i0hqE&mode=related&search=

In Islam, there's no kind of pre-made black-check of your sins that you already have on your back. There's this whole concept of forgiving, asking Allah to forgive you because, truly, He's the All-Forgiver.

Okay, I'm believing in God and I totally agree with atheist people out there.

The Bible is so corrupted its not even funny.

Christianity is full of contradictions, lies, man's words, full of versions that differ one from the others (alteast 100 versions spread out all around the world, and christians who are reading this, don't deny it). In Islam, its totally the opposite.

We have a Qur'an that, till this day, has been preserved for 1400 years and not has been even changed(not even a letter). We worship One God, not 3-in-1 pack, which many christians dont even know how to explain it, or in a better term, define it (which is the whole irony of this religion, they can't explain the trinity and this religion is totally based on that. Islam is a way of life, a man-to-God relation. No associate. All the prophets (Jesus is part of them) came with only one message, to worship one God.

Allah is Too Glorious, even, to have a son. The whole concept of ''Jesus dying to forgive everyone's sin'' is just a weird concept. It's like sayin', alright since I believe jesus I could rape, kill, torture, steal since Jesus died for my sins, guess I have nothing really to worry about? Oh yeah, and what really does the pope really do? Get revelation from God? or the Priest that forgives you, because basically, they get the revelation of God to forgive you? but.. Jesus didn't already payed his blood for you? You see, it's weird but for a normal person it could see it as ..normal.

Atheist may rejoice themselves -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=EamNk1i0hqE&mode=related&search=

In Islam, there's no kind of pre-made black-check of your sin that you already have on your back. There's this whole concept of forgiving, asking Allah to forgive you because, truly, He's the All-Forgiver.

Jesus gave Peter the keys to the Kingdom, He put Peter in charge of the Church. There is one Canon of the Bible. There was a development in what books go into the Bible, since God didn't sort of write it word for word and tell anyone, like Muslims believe Allah did. But, there is one Bible.

If a different denomination decides to take something out, how does that affect the genuineness of the Bible?

Say the Trinity is "wierd" doesn't really prove anything about wheter it exists or not.

Your understanding of forgiveness in Christianity is flawed. No one claims that you can do whatever you want and still go to heaven....If you want the forgiveness and are willing to try and change your life, you will be forgiven. Sort of like Islam right? And priests don't forgive you. That is still God's work. The Bible does say to confess your sins to man, though.

The Bible is so corrupted its not even funny[/QUOTE} SOme parts of it are yeah but other bits are extremely well preserved'

[quote]We have a Qur'an that, till this day, has been preserved for 1400 years and not been even changed(not even a letter) LOL Ya think?!

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of islam in general and you've pointed out some of the major theological problems with Xianity but even a little research will show just how much the koran has been *cough* edited *cough*...look on the net, i'm sure someone has a site somewhere.

We have a Qur'an that, till this day, has been preserved for 1400 years and not been even changed(not even a letter).

That is very tr...oops. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses)

You can say whatever you want(Satanic verses or any thing you want) but God has preserved the Qur'an for man's corrumption, lies, and everything. The Qur'an of 1400 years ago is the same as today's Qur'an. (:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=seqAzYCVrOE

You can say whatever you want(Satanic verses or any thing you want) but God has preserved the Qur'an for man's corrumption, lies, and everything. The Qur'an of 1400 years ago is the same as today's Qur'an. (:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=seqAzYCVrOE

And you wonder why no one wants to debate with you? Look up 'fanaticism' sometime.

Faith is good but blind faith and ignoring facts doesn't honour god who gave you intelligence for a reason.

Mainly because not many people are not educated enough about any religious beliefs other than atheism and christianity.

The only two religions most atheists know about is christianity, judaism,and catholicism. So they rabble "all religion is st00pid", when they may agree with neo-paganism.

All the christians "know" they are right and everyone else is worshiping the devil, and for that everyone else's after life is fucked. So they rave "Belief in god never hurt anybody, join our cult or burn!!!" Need I elaborate on that one?

Fucking slaughter millions of people the world over and say "We never hurt anybody".

/end rant

...ilikedots.....

The atheists always attack Christianity because they are -- even if they don't know it -- tools of satan, and satan has no interest in attacking his own creations (the various false religions of the world), satan is only interested in attacking the one true God, his son Jesus Christ, and his followers.

Since Satanic Verses has been mentioned--what the heck is the big deal with it?

I started reading it because of all the hoo-hah, but got bogged down--thought it was boring.

The atheists always attack Christianity because they are -- even if they don't know it -- tools of satan, and satan has no interest in attacking his own creations (the various false religions of the world), satan is only interested in attacking the one true God, his son Jesus Christ, and his followers.

I... You..Eh...um...

You can say whatever you want(Satanic verses or any thing you want) but God has preserved the Qur'an for man's corrumption, lies, and everything. The Qur'an of 1400 years ago is the same as today's Qur'an. (:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=seqAzYCVrOE

I'll get my hand on a Qur'an in some time. Wait and see....

http://media.damnfunnypictures.com/dfp/ChristianityExplained001.jpg

The atheists always attack Christianity because they are -- even if they don't know it -- tools of satan, and satan has no interest in attacking his own creations (the various false religions of the world), satan is only interested in attacking the one true God, his son Jesus Christ, and his followers.

Thats why you mentioned mormonism in my thread...you know I was aiming for a more...you know....pagan...possibly polytheistic religion.

Now the point of this post, I hate how christians always say, "we're right, toss out your beliefs or suffer because all other beliefs are wrong", even among other denominations of christianity.

sorry I'm getting off topic again jeez...

...ilikedots.....

The atheists always attack Christianity because they are -- even if they don't know it -- tools of satan, and satan has no interest in attacking his own creations (the various false religions of the world), satan is only interested in attacking the one true God, his son Jesus Christ, and his followers.

If there is a great adversary of God, Christians are as much his tools as atheists. Who stands without sin? Who resists all temptation and stands solely with God? Is there any man who has not denied righteousness for worldliness? Is there any man free from the grasps of sloth, wrath, envy, gluttony, greed, lust, pride? Is there any man that, if God's son were to stand before him, would recognize that man as the most righteous? Is there any man that, if the antithesis of Christ were to stand before him, would recognize that man as the most wicked?

Anti-Troll Aura, ACTIVATE! (Oh shit, it's afflicting my power as well...)

If there is a great adversary of God, Christians are as much his tools as atheists. Who stands without sin? Who resists all temptation and stands solely with God? Is there any man who has not denied righteousness for worldliness? Is there any man free from the grasps of sloth, wrath, envy, gluttony, greed, lust, pride? Is there any man that, if God's son were to stand before him, would recognize that man as the most righteous? Is there any man that, if the antithesis of Christ were to stand before him, would recognize that man as the most wicked?

Anti-Troll Aura, ACTIVATE! (Oh shit, it's afflicting my power as well...)

QFT

I've been waiting for quite some time for someone to say that. You are an excellent poster,who should be nominated for mod-hood

...ilikedots.....

The atheists always attack Christianity because they are -- even if they don't know it -- tools of satan, and satan has no interest in attacking his own creations (the various false religions of the world), satan is only interested in attacking the one true God, his son Jesus Christ, and his followers.

Athiests attack christianity b/c their followers tend to be the in your face cunts you just wanna drop kick out a window.

Also, christianity has brought far more pain and misery to this world than ANY other religion period.

All religions are bullshit however, they are all just sun worship. Religion is a hold over from pre historic man trying to figure out what the fuck that ball of fire is up there and how it affects us.

If religion did not affect my everyday life in the "secular" country of America I would not feel the need to make those who would suck a begging madmans dick weep.

Athiests attack christianity b/c their followers tend to be the in your face cunts you just wanna drop kick out a window.


That's because we're trying to show you the truth so you don't have to burn in hell for your sins.


Also, christianity has brought far more pain and misery to this world than ANY other religion period.


Do you have any evidence to back that up?

If anything, atheists attack Christians because Christians are so peaceful. If you guys treated Muslims this way you'd have your heads chopped off and your houses bombed.


All religions are bullshit however, they are all just sun worship. Religion is a hold over from pre historic man trying to figure out what the fuck that ball of fire is up there and how it affects us.

Christianity has nothing to do with sun worship. :rolleyes:

Do you have any evidence to back that up?



Actually its in the history books. Look it up.

'Nuff said.

...ihateidiots......

That's because we're trying to show you the truth so you don't have to burn in hell for your sins.

And that RIGHT THERE....is why atheist dislike christianity. What part of....NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS do you jesus humps not get? NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS......can you understand that? Can you seriously step back a bit and see that?

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

No I do not have definitive proof. That is b/c the COUNTLESS lives lost in the name of your christ is not recorded. But in the past 2000 years we have had the Crusades...a holy war...We have had the inquisition which wiped entire villages...and we have the deplorable living conditions of the dark ages which IS IN FACT attributed to christian suppression of science.

I did make that statement without knowing for A FACT that christianity is the biggest murdering religion. What more atrocities do you need to be considered bad thing though?

If anything, atheists attack Christians because Christians are so peaceful. If you guys treated Muslims this way you'd have your heads chopped off and your houses bombed.

As far as peaceful christians go google Inquisition...Dark Ages...and the Crusades :)
You christian douche....400 Years ago do you REEEAAALLLLY think christians were A N Y different???


Christianity has nothing to do with sun worship. :rolleyes:

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

nuff said

That's because we're trying to show you the truth so you don't have to burn in hell for your sins.

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Do you have any evidence to back that up?

Didn't Jesus himself make a point about hypocriticism? Something he who is truly righteous should throw the first stone? Something about not judging others? Something about motes in neighbour's eyes?

Oh well. What does the teachings of a dead man have to do with modern theism anyways? Continue.

Oh. And. Atheists shouldn't specifically target Christianity but the Judeo-Christan ethic and the Abrahamic religions, considering they share much of the same objectionable religious material.

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

nuff said

That's one of the most laughably inaccurate movies I've ever seen.

The God Who Wasn't There- FTW

The reason why atheists are coming out more and more against Christianity is because Christianity is the dominant religion in Western culture. Many, many atheists know more than enough to easily debunk Islam, Judaism and all kinds of new age crap, but you hardly hear about it, because they're not in any real position to threaten secular values from the "inside" so to speak.