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ACE_187
2007-08-22, 20:02
I dont practice any religion now, but im agnostic, and believe in a higher power. But i've also learned about the jews, or the people who call themselves jews, and it changed my view of the world. Even the internet is censored by them now, if you have AOL, try to visit stormfront.org, and see what happens. Even though I think that site is full of abunch of pussies who wont actually do anything, atleast now i know it isn't ran by jews.

Something else, is i've realized everything about the holocaust I thought I knew was complete bullshit, and when I asked my teachers when i was 14, why hitler hated jews, it was always "I think a jewish doctor accidently killed his mom." :rolleyes: actually, hitler was the farthest thing from an anti-semite, you could be. A semite, is actually arab, and these false jews have been slaughtering them, even before WW2. And hitler actually warned of the control the jews would have on the media and government, and it's all come true.

Not to talk about that too much, I just dont feel like hearing the "racist!!!, anti-semite!!!!" comments.

Anyway, I found out Hitler, while not a hindu, was very interested in it. And some white lady who moved to India, and started practicing hinduism fell in love with him, or something. The swasticka is actually a hindu symbol, and unlike the popular myth, of hitler stealing it, and giving it new meaning, it actually held the same meaning to him. And I cant read much (because as i said, even the internet is censored), but supposedly, whites were the first to practice hinduism. I've read a little about it, about some beliefs, but from what i read, it's a really pacifist religion, but arent their hindu "terrorists" (and by that i mean someone who doesn't agree with our ZOG), and it couldn't have been that pacifist if hitler was that interested in it.

My thing, is I cant say that anything is the word of god, because i have no proof, but hinduism, from what i've read isn't really like a religion. It's a belief in god, and a way of life. I like islam too, because it's anti-"jewish", and not pacifists, but it's more of a religion, and I cant actually believe in it either, because as with christians, the only reason they believe it, is because it's been passed on by their family.

And I dont know much about India, but David Duke (a white supremacist) said that his trip to India, convinced him of white superority, so could anybody tell me what that might be about?

jackketch
2007-08-22, 20:44
*weeps for the youth of America*

I wish i could think of a valid reason to close this crap but off the top of my head I can't...yet.

Dre Crabbe
2007-08-22, 20:54
Go fish, retard.

shitty wok
2007-08-22, 21:09
http://badexample.mu.nu/archives/MacPhail%20Scotch%20Whisky.jpg

Cytosine
2007-08-22, 21:38
You are, without question, the stupidest and most poorly educated person on the internet. Die. Please.

Rolloffle
2007-08-23, 01:52
It's sad to see someone who is so confused.

God loves all people regardless of their race, why would any God bother creating people he hates? :rolleyes:

Instead of subscribing to the lies of these racist quacks, you should pickup of a Bible and find out about the true & living God and what he wants from your life.

I'll be praying for you. :)

zik
2007-08-23, 04:41
Ancient India was invaded by nomadic Aryans from the Russian steppes who became the noblemen of Indian society. Much of the vedic traditions originated in them and they brought the concepts that led to some of Hindu's more violent gods (being indo-european nomads who lived in harsh climates they worshipped warlike stormgods.) They had a lot to do with the formation of the caste system, and of course they were at the top of it. They were definately considered superior. The aryans both brought a lot of things to India and learned a lot from it's people. Our modern day conception of Indian culture is heavily a product of Aryan innovation. I really don't know too much more about all of this, it's definately something I wish to study.

Hinduism seems to be like other polytheistic religions, personifying the forces of nature into gods who's actions are both "good" and "evil". Despite having gods hinduism is pretty pantheistic, meaning god or divinity is present in everything. These types of religions tend to have a healthy relationship with science, also. Hinduism isn't really a single religion though, it's more like a collection of beliefs based off the same pantheon.

Sorry if my information is incorrect or incomplete, I know very little on these subjects, and you bringing this up is actually lighting the fire under my ass to make me look for some books to read on the subject.


It's sad to see someone who is so confused.

God loves all people regardless of their race, why would any God bother creating people he hates? :rolleyes:

Instead of subscribing to the lies of these racist quacks, you should pickup of a Bible and find out about the true & living God and what he wants from your life.

I'll be praying for you. :)


Are you a troll? I have no problem with people following the Abrahamic religions as long as they have willingly and consciously accepted them into their life, but I do have the problem with the fact they feel to need to compell everyone else to follow them. The information is out there, if someone is seeking your god they'll have no trouble finding sources of information on him. People should have the right to practice the religion of their very own race and culture without being called a confused heathen racist. I personally am of Indo-European stock, and find Christianity (along with Judaism and Islam) as something alien to me. My ancestors had different values than the ones of those who lived in the fertile crescent. I identify and agree more with the pagan religions. So if you're really about compassion and turning the other cheek why do you insist on converting or "saving" me? Don't bother praying for me, save your prayers for your usual selfish concerns.

Rolloffle
2007-08-23, 05:27
People should have the right to practice the religion of their very own race and culture without being called a confused heathen racist.

Read what the OP wrote, and you'll see why I called him a confused racist. :p

zik
2007-08-23, 06:39
Read what the OP wrote, and you'll see why I called him a confused racist. :p

Although he is a bit misled, at least he is seeking information. Trust me eventually his train of thought will lead to the realization that you should forget about superiority and focus on having pride and wishing the best for your own people, while being able to work with other cultures/races/ethnicities when needed. There is a middle ground between racism and multiculturalism, where cultures can remain distinct from each other but still live on the same planet. Prejudice can be very helpful, but when it gets to the point of hating someone because of things they have no control over, it's pointless. As for the anti-semitism, often such feelings have merit. But I think that white people need to focus more on whats good for them, instead of what's bad about the jews. At least modern jews have formed a nationalist state for the protection and preservation of their race and culture. This happening in a time when white european nations are being overrun by muslims. A reason that is happening comes from the liberal, politically correct, nanny-state politics present in Europe currently. Such systems have roots in Christian values, which were imposed onto the pagan europeans. I think white people should be more concerned with awakening those old gods and raising future generations of healthy intelligent white people. While this may involve removing many jewish-inspired concepts of our societies, it does not mean we should outright hate the jews. Doing so wouldn't be in the least bit productive.

To the OP, move away from redneck white supremacy, and look into pan-nationalism.

Rolloffle
2007-08-23, 07:29
Such systems have roots in Christian values

No they don't. If the government was Christian, Muslims wouldn't be allowed in and neither would neo-pagan racist idiots such as yourself.

MasterPython
2007-08-23, 08:02
God loves all people regardless of their race, why would any God bother creating people he hates? :rolleyes:

Because he hates them and you can't be a prick to people that don't exist.

zik
2007-08-23, 09:19
No they don't. If the government was Christian, Muslims wouldn't be allowed in and neither would neo-pagan racist idiots such as yourself.

A main staple of christianity is egalitarianism.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)

Feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless even if they are enemies is encouraged. Cultures who champion the values of charity and compassion aren't that likely to turn away immigrants. In fact christianity seems to go a step further by sending out missionaries to convert foreignors. I'm also not aware of any hostile or unwelcoming attitude toward nonbelievers being present in the bible.

You do realize Islam, at it's core is basically the same religion as Christianity, don't you? Muhammed believed himself to be the christ of his people. The main values are the same the only differences are in specific details.

As for myself, I am not a neo-pagan as I don't practice any religion at all currently and find the whole neo-pagan movement to be ex-hippie new age wankery. I am not a racist as I do not hate people because of their race but I do believe that races are better off seperated from each other so that they may live amongst their own and prosper.

Rolloffle
2007-08-23, 09:23
A main staple of christianity is egalitarianism.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)

Feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless even if they are enemies is encouraged. Cultures who champion the values of charity and compassion aren't that likely to turn away immigrants. In fact christianity seems to go a step further by sending out missionaries to convert foreignors. I'm also not aware of any hostile or unwelcoming attitude toward nonbelievers being present in the bible.

You do realize Islam, at it's core is basically the same religion as Christianity, don't you? Muhammed believed himself to be the christ of his people. The main values are the same the only differences are in specific details.

As for myself, I am not a neo-pagan as I don't practice any religion at all currently and find the whole neo-pagan movement to be ex-hippie new age wankery. I am not a racist as I do not hate people because of their race but I do believe that races are better off seperated from each other so that they may live amongst their own and prosper.

Well, okay, I certainly agree with you on the neo-pagan stuff being "ex-hippie new age wankery". You're right about Christianity welcomming others; however, most governments in Europe now are very secular.

Anyway, I'm sorry about my previous comments, I hope I haven't given you a bad impression of Christians. :(

zik
2007-08-23, 09:36
Well, okay, I certainly agree with you on the neo-pagan stuff being "ex-hippie new age wankery". You're right about Christianity welcomming others; however, most governments in Europe now are very secular.

Anyway, I'm sorry about my previous comments, I hope I haven't given you a bad impression of Christians. :(

The countries are secular but that doesn't take away the fact that they promote Christian values, and that the political systems themselves are based on very Christian ideas. Also, while its influence is waning.. the Catholic church still has much influence over Europe. Definately not to the degree it was in the middle ages, but it's still there.

I accept your apology. I think much of what you said was misdirected at me and maybe meant more for the OP. Either way, I encourage you to use logic and reason in debates/arguments instead of resorting to ad hominem.

Jove
2007-08-23, 18:53
Oh no teh Jooos are coming!!!!! (LMFAO)

Crow T. Robot
2007-08-23, 21:12
Jesus was a socialist.

zik
2007-08-23, 21:30
Jesus was a socialist.

Not completely sure about that, as I'm not sure if there were any similar political theories at that time and Jesus Christ isn't exactly a confirmed historical figure. It's very possible he lived, but it wouldn't be too odd if he didn't. His life story, and even details like his date of birth and length of time before ressurection follow an archetype that was used in telling the story of many other past deities (Horus, Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra, etc). The astrology of the important dates of his life are based off of the movement of the sun and the alignment of the stars. For instance, on december 25 Sirius (the east star) is alignedwith orians belt (3 kings), which point to the sunrise on that day (birth of the son). There is no solid historical source mentioning him outside of the bible. I believe there was only one or two historians of his supposed time who made mention of a christ, but that does not necessarily mean Jesus of Nazareth. Christian morals do lend themselves a bit to socialism though, on the welfare side of it at least. Unsurprisingly, much of the governments in modern europe are Social Democracies.

nshanin
2007-08-23, 21:43
Rolloffle, answer this; are you a troll? Yes or no.

Rizzo in a box
2007-08-23, 22:38
hahahaha, look at the power they have

nshanin
2007-08-23, 22:41
Not completely sure about that, as I'm not sure if there were any similar political theories at that time and Jesus Christ isn't exactly a confirmed historical figure. It's very possible he lived, but it wouldn't be too odd if he didn't. His life story, and even details like his date of birth and length of time before ressurection follow an archetype that was used in telling the story of many other past deities (Horus, Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra, etc). The astrology of the important dates of his life are based off of the movement of the sun and the alignment of the stars. For instance, on december 25 Sirius (the east star) is alignedwith orians belt (3 kings), which point to the sunrise on that day (birth of the son). There is no solid historical source mentioning him outside of the bible. I believe there was only one or two historians of his supposed time who made mention of a christ, but that does not necessarily mean Jesus of Nazareth. Christian morals do lend themselves a bit to socialism though, on the welfare side of it at least. Unsurprisingly, much of the governments in modern europe are Social Democracies.

Interesting, here in the States, the evangelicals are neo-fascists and radical free-marketeers. It's opportunity instead of handouts, they say. I guess it's subject to interpretation.

EDIT: For example, the most famous American evangelist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_robertson#Political_activism

MilkAndInnards
2007-08-24, 05:02
I'm pretty sure Hinduism is a Indo-Aryan religion

P.S. I hate you Rolloffe

shuu
2007-08-25, 08:08
Ancient India was invaded by nomadic Aryans from the Russian steppes who became the noblemen of Indian society. Much of the vedic traditions originated in them and they brought the concepts that led to some of Hindu's more violent gods (being indo-european nomads who lived in harsh climates they worshipped warlike stormgods.) They had a lot to do with the formation of the caste system, and of course they were at the top of it. They were definately considered superior. The aryans both brought a lot of things to India and learned a lot from it's people. Our modern day conception of Indian culture is heavily a product of Aryan innovation. I really don't know too much more about all of this, it's definately something I wish to study.

Actually, that wouldn't be possible seeing as you can't get chariots down all those steep cliffs. There is also no archaeological evidence for the 'Aryan invasion' theory.

shuu
2007-08-25, 08:10
Jesus was a socialist.

he was a flying tiger from shrangli-pak

Rolloffle
2007-08-25, 08:42
I hate you Rolloffe

Well, I don't hate you. :)

Usually, when you hate someone it says more about you then it does about them. I'll be praying that you get your issues sorted and see the truth.

Jove
2007-08-25, 16:02
Actually, that wouldn't be possible seeing as you can't get chariots down all those steep cliffs. There is also no archaeological evidence for the 'Aryan invasion' theory.

So true, that entire idea (Aryan Invasion) has been discredited many times over...

nshanin
2007-08-25, 16:15
Well, I don't hate you. :)

Usually, when you hate someone it says more about you then it does about them. I'll be praying that you get your issues sorted and see the truth.

I'll pray that Krishna will come into your heart and you'll see the light. Open your eyes, Rolloffle.

Euromerican
2007-08-26, 05:04
Man.....Hare Krishnans freak me out. I dont know what it is about them.They just creep me out. Every other culture on earth im not to bothered by, but those damn Hare Krishnansjust creep the hell out of me.

*shudders*

(Anyone whos been to Berkeley,CA knows what im talking about)

Lord. Better Than You
2007-08-26, 21:30
I've looked into the ideas of the Nazis, and they seem flawed.

White people were saying they superior anyway, with the empires and that.

The Indian people called themselves "Aryans" which basically means "noble person".

Then white people came over to say that THEY were the "noble people" and invented something called "Aryan invasion theory".

This basically states that white people came from northern Europe, invaded India, invented Hinduism...and blah blah blah.

And the swastika has various meanings...it's a pretty obvious geometric pattern if you think about it. It can even be seen in some Jewish temples.

But yes, it has ALL SORTS of meanings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Origin_hypotheses

However, something I find curious is the fact that some Hindu paintings have pictures of WHITE people. Not blonde though...they have the noses of indians and black hair.

I don't know why that is....might be to do with the whites invading and forcing them to paint white people...or maybe Hitler was right about it.

But I don't really think that ONE CIVILIZATION invading another validates genetic superiority.

Jove
2007-08-27, 00:30
Brahmins have a tendency to be lighter but they are not Nordics... and they never were.

niggersexual
2007-08-27, 03:45
The Aryan Invasion Theory is by most considered to be wrong now due to the lack of archaeological evidence. The fall of Harappan or Indus Valley Civilization is generally believed to be primarily from geological causes. The Aryan Migration Theory is still widely accepted however.

Brahmins have a tendency to be lighter but they are not Nordics... and they never were.

That's because Aryans and Nords are different things. Indo-European (Aryan) people from Caucasus migrated to different regions of Europe and Asia, including Scandinavia and India. The Brahmans were lighter skinned because they were more Aryan than the southern Dravidians.