"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth: and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. "


I wanted to let everyone know the solution to this problem. If this prophecy indeed becomes true, there is one way and only one way around receiving the mark of the beast and ensuring complete and total human survival.

Apparently people will be forced to have a veri chip implanted in their right hands. All stores will have electronic hand verification swipe pads, and your "$$$/money" will be stored electronically on government controlled computer hard drives. It is said that no man may buy, sell, or trade without first receiving the mark of the beast. In order to buy from a store, you must swipe your right had across a fingerprint scanner, similar to the way we use credit cards in the modern day.

The solution to this problem? Gangs of humans will band together and give away food, clothes, and shelter for free. If you grow your own food, make your own clothes and weapons, and give them away freely to your entire clan/gang, then you will have no use for the veri chip to be installed in your hand.

This is the ultimate solution to a problem that in my eyes is becoming increasingly more real the more time passes and I see where the world is going. The technology is already there - the veri chip has already been tried and tested in many countries.

Please spread the word to all your friends and family that are religious Christians so that we can beat the "devil" at his own game.

Let the games begin. :)

Christians are going to be "raptured" before this happens..(so they say)

veri-chip... very possible...the religious aspect?...not so much.

Lemme guess...the chip's going to have 666 on it too huh?

...calmdowndude.....

Oh god...have they done a South Park episode on this kind of retardation? If they haven't they should.

Cos people like this are starting to bug me.

Oh god...have they done a South Park episode on this kind of retardation? If they haven't they should.

Cos people like this are starting to bug me.

I hear ya man.

Personally I'm not a Christian, I am agnostic. But most of my family are devout Christians and they've been feeding me these stories my whole life.

Not really sure if its "true" or not. Most of the book we call "The Bible" are just guidelines for living a good life of peace and trying your best not to cause harm to others - which I agree with 100%.

If everybody was just peaceful, didn't steal from people, or get really greedy with oil bullshit and the like, the world would be a better place.

I was simply describing a way around this "story from the Bible."

This post was meant to be informative, not to push religious beliefs upon anyone.

...I left alone,
my mind was blank.
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind!

What did I see,
can I believe,
that what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy?


do do DOooo!

Sigh, I couldn't help it. ;)

If everybody was just peaceful, didn't steal from people, or get really greedy with oil bullshit and the like, the world would be a better place.

True... but don't think one needs to have a Christian morality to be peaceful and not steal. What you say is true, but if everybody lived by Christian values that you manage to leave out, then I firmly believe the world most certainly would not be a better place.

This thread seems to be more anti consumer, than having anything to do with religion. You're saying the mark of the beast will be the veri chip? Honestly?

And like noted above... the Christians will already be saved by the time this happens. Although that'll be an interesting day... seeing as how heaven was not built to occupy so many Christians (they weren't really expecting the whole revelations process to take as long as it did... tsk tsk). Hell, maybe an inferno on earth won't be too bad once overpopulation and carbon emissions cause heaven to melt away in the sky! :D


PS... why's your name Cash stealer? This made me chuckle when you speak of not stealing to make the world better.

The solution to this problem? Gangs of humans will band together and give away food, clothes, and shelter for free. If you grow your own food, make your own clothes and weapons, and give them away freely to your entire clan/gang, then you will have no use for the veri chip to be installed in your hand.

This is the ultimate solution to a problem that in my eyes is becoming increasingly more real the more time passes and I see where the world is going. The technology is already there - the veri chip has already been tried and tested in many countries.

Please spread the word to all your friends and family that are religious Christians so that we can beat the "devil" at his own game.

Let the games begin. :)

Sounds to me like you're advocating the creation of new-wave Amish-Christians. After all, in a subsistence system, you're not gonna be able to get ahold of the luxuries.

And really, this sounds ludicrous - you're suggesting that this is the beginning of the end times as foretold in Revelations through visions given to John - but you think that divine will, that is the DIVINE WILL not the devil, can somehow be thwarted with silly games.

If the only point is not receiving the Mark, I suppose that I can understand that, but if the version of the rapture as told by Christians of a certain mindset is true, then you've got a lot more serious things to be concerned with - like that fact that you're in line for eternal damnation.

I hear ya man.

Personally I'm not a Christian, I am agnostic. But most of my family are devout Christians and they've been feeding me these stories my whole life.

Not really sure if its "true" or not. Most of the book we call "The Bible" are just guidelines for living a good life of peace and trying your best not to cause harm to others - which I agree with 100%.

If everybody was just peaceful, didn't steal from people, or get really greedy with oil bullshit and the like, the world would be a better place.

I was simply describing a way around this "story from the Bible."

This post was meant to be informative, not to push religious beliefs upon anyone.

Yeah, that's cool. But a lot of The Bible is a bit more than just a humanitarian collection of stories.

PS... why's your name Cash stealer? This made me chuckle when you speak of not stealing to make the world better.

I chose this username when I was around 14 years old and first started visiting Totse. I was a frequent viewer of the "bad ideas" section and as a result I acted upon some of the "ideas" listed in that section.

I stole from a lot of people. And I paid the price and learned from my many mistakes as a kid. I dont do that type of stuff anymore, but I still have the same username from when I originally signed up at the site.

I chose this username when I was around 14 years old and first started visiting Totse. I was a frequent viewer of the "bad ideas" section and as a result I acted upon some of the "ideas" listed in that section.

I stole from a lot of people. And I paid the price and learned from my many mistakes as a kid. I dont do that type of stuff anymore, but I still have the same username from when I originally signed up at the site.

Fair enough. At least you've grown up. Thats good to see.

L O L

I cannot believe that with all the bullshit hoops the majority of the religious right in america have jumped through under Lord Dubyas jesus loving command...that all of a sudden christians will band together against an implanted "mark of the beast" chip.

I cannot believe it. Here is all it takes for christians to submit to it:

"Pastor Joe should I get the implant? Is it the mark of the beast."

"FUCK NO, get two of em....says right here in the bible Blah,blah, out of context info to prove a point, blah, blah overgeneralized answers. Romans 6:66. Plus our leader who said a few times how much he would love to suck off JC tells us too."

"Thank you pastor Joe....please take your dick out of my mouth now"

^^^

o_O -wtf?

The beast is coming.

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To sum up what the OP said.

When the end of the world comes all we have to do to avoid damnation is get rid of materialism and greed. That's what I got atleast.

The story of Revelations is actually a good story if you don't take it literally. It hints at how money causes our problems, but it is too often used just as a scare tactic. When we become scared, our emotions take over and we make bad choices. Illogical ones.

Nice theory, consumerism could kill us all. However, isn't something like that already going on with the internet?

To sum up what the OP said.

When the end of the world comes all we have to do to avoid damnation is get rid of materialism and greed. That's what I got atleast.

The story of Revelations is actually a good story if you don't take it literally. It hints at how money causes our problems, but it is too often used just as a scare tactic. When we become scared, our emotions take over and we make bad choices. Illogical ones.

I agree 100%

The story of Revelations is actually a good story if you don't take it literally. It hints at how money causes our problems, but it is too often used just as a scare tactic. When we become scared, our emotions take over and we make bad choices. Illogical ones.

Lack of money causes even more problems.

Lemme guess...the chip's going to have 666 on it too huh?

I'd put 666 on it for the sheer lulz of christians retreating to secret underground societies

Oh man, hope a true champion of the lulz emerges and makes the Westboro Church in it's entirety disappear without a trace shortly before the chips are put to use

I speak the truth and do my best in life to create a peaceful environment for all my friends and family. Every where I walk in life people are continually happy and free from pain and suffering.

If you agree with my beliefs, you're more than welcome to check out my myspace. Know that I fight a good fight, stick up for everyone involved, and represent freedom of speech, expression, and freedom of religions across the world.

Check out my myspace page @ www.myspace.com/hand805 and spread the word!

Lack of money causes even more problems.

Lack of money cannot cause any problem. Problems can only be caused by you believing that there is a problem. The power of choice. I could live my life, free of problems, with or without money. It's all a choice to say if something is problem or not.

I could live in the bush, off only what the environment give me and I don't need money to do that. Money is just a human created system that makes it possible to trade easier. Money is a concept.
A concept cannot make problems.
Humans can only CHOOSE to have a problem with something.

I speak the truth and do my best in life to create a peaceful environment for all my friends and family. Every where I walk in life people are continually happy and free from pain and suffering.

If you agree with my beliefs, you're more than welcome to check out my myspace. Know that I fight a good fight, stick up for everyone involved, and represent freedom of speech, expression, and freedom of religions across the world.

Check out my myspace page @ www.myspace.com/hand805 and spread the word!


The only thing I would advise you to do in life is stop Fighting for a "good" fight. Fighting, even when for something "good" only causes more fighting. It's like the "war on drugs", "war on terrorism" and "war on poverty". It is slight negative wording, but it makes a huge difference on the way we see things. Instead of being AGAINST something, we can be FOR something. Instead of being against war, how about being FOR PEACE. Its a positive way of thinking that can open up many doors. Just a thought.

I can't believe you're spreading this bullshit all over the boards.

"Just say I can! Yayyyyyy!"

"The power of CHOICE! YayyyyyY!"

*shudders*

You people scare me.

I can't believe you're spreading this bullshit all over the boards.

You people scare me.

What are you afraid of?

There is no reason to ever be scared or worry.
Why be scared or worry if you can change it?
And why be scared or worry if you can't change it?

There is no point in worrying because if you CAN change it then you should change it.
Also there is no point in worrying because if you CANT change it, then worrying will only make you unhappy.
You worry about so much and it only creates more worry. Let it go. Let go of fear and let love into your Life.

Don't worry. Instead acknowledge your worry, and ACCEPT it. We cannot change what we can't accept.

Here it is in simple form that might make it more understandable for everyone.

If you can change it-Don't worry about it, change it!
If you can't change it-Don't worry about it, its a waste of time and energy.


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS MY OPINION AND IN NO WAY DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE OR FOLLOW IT.

There is no reason to ever be scared or worry.
Why be scared or worry if you can change it?
And why be scared or worry if you can't change it?

There is no point in worrying because if you CAN change it then you should change it.
Also there is no point in worrying because if you CANT change it, then worrying will only make you unhappy.
You worry about so much and it only creates more worry. Let it go. Let go of fear and let love into your Life.

Don't worry. Instead acknowledge your worry, and ACCEPT it. We cannot change what we can't accept.

Here it is in simple form that might make it more understandable for everyone.

If you can change it-Don't worry about it, change it!
If you can't change it-Don't worry about it, its a waste of time and energy.


DISCLAIMER: THIS IS MY OPINION AND IN NO WAY DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE OR FOLLOW IT.

Good job, you're learning how the world works on a spiritual level.

Most people just consider the physical plane of existence that we currently live in. Sure, you can amass as many possessions as you can, and even build up your wealth to the point where you own 50 houses, and have billions of dollars in the bank.

But if you piss off the "source power" (what others call God, Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Buddha), then the source power will unplug your cord from the system and you will die.

There is no denying it. The source power has complete and total rule over this plane of existince, because "he/it" created everything in the first place. The creator has the power to destroy the created being, and there is nothing you can do to stop his will.

Good job, you're learning how the world works on a spiritual level.

Most people just consider the physical plane of existence that we currently live in. Sure, you can amass as many possessions as you can, and even build up your wealth to the point where you own 50 houses, and have billions of dollars in the bank.

But if you piss off the "source power" (what others call God, Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Buddha), then the source power will unplug your cord from the system and you will die.

There is no denying it. The source power has complete and total rule over this plane of existince, because "he/it" created everything in the first place. The creator has the power to destroy the created being, and there is nothing you can do to stop his will.

A spiritual plane of existence is COMPLETELY speculative. A god of any type has NO evidence for its existence. Your "source power" will "unplug" you regardless of your pissing him/it off or not......the sham is where you go after you die. Happy town or Meanville.

I can't believe you're spreading this bullshit all over the boards.

"Just say I can! Yayyyyyy!"

"The power of CHOICE! YayyyyyY!"

*shudders*

You people scare me.

Fear is man's worst enemy - that's why i can believe it.

A spiritual plane of existence is COMPLETELY speculative. A god of any type has NO evidence for its existence. Your "source power" will "unplug" you regardless of your pissing him/it off or not......the sham is where you go after you die. Happy town or Meanville.

You're wrong. I have already been to the spiritual plane and communicated with many angels and demons already. You are misguided and don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Plain and simple man.

You're wrong. I have already been to the spiritual plane and communicated with many angels and demons already.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Haha, yeah I thought about that. I'm not sure how to bring a physical camera with me when I go to sleep. If you can figure out a way for me to bring a camera with me, I'll gladly take pictures.

You're wrong. I have already been to the spiritual plane and communicated with many angels and demons already. You are misguided and don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Plain and simple man.

These are the kind of statements that make people like you lose all their credibility.

Props.

If Dubya told you fucking sheeple to get it......you would.

It is what sheep do. Follow. You know how STOOOOOOOPID sheep are? You can convince them that there is an invisble man that lives in the clouds and wants you to be good b/c if you are not then you go to a lake of fire and are burned and tortured in the worst possible ways ......... but he loves you.

So yeah...to get you all to take the mark of the beast one needs only go to your particular denominations corporate headquarters and pay money to the big shepard. Pass it down the line from the biggest shepards to the smallest shepards that you NEED this chip implated. You do what your told. It is what religion is all about.

I have ZERO faith in the intelligence level of the faithful. For a reason why please look up religous right and the Bush administration.

If Dubya told you fucking sheeple to get it......you would.

It is what sheep do. Follow. You know how STOOOOOOOPID sheep are? You can convince them that there is an invisble man that lives in the clouds and wants you to be good b/c if you are not then you go to a lake of fire and are burned and tortured in the worst possible ways ......... but he loves you.

So yeah...to get you all to take the mark of the beast one needs only go to your particular denominations corporate headquarters and pay money to the big shepard. Pass it down the line from the biggest shepards to the smallest shepards that you NEED this chip implated. You do what your told. It is what religion is all about.

I have ZERO faith in the intelligence level of the faithful. For a reason why please look up religous right and the Bush administration.

Naw man you got it all wrong. I'm not trying to preach Christianity or any other religion, I'm just writing down personal experience stuff on totse. I noticed that there was a "loophole" in the whole revelation story (the mark of the beast n such)

the funny thing is I had a dream about this stuff happening sometime farrr off in the future, and it doesnt seem to far fetched that eventually people will have a chip implanted in their hand that stores all their money information on it.

You seem to have the wrong idea here.

These are the kind of statements that make people like you lose all their credibility.

Props.

No statement is without credibility. Every single life, soul, being, whatever you want to call it, is valuable. Just as valuable as any other.

This is proven all over our Earth. The littlest creature, may seem insignificant, but take that "insignificant" creature away and a huge shockwave can be seen. How small, big, strong, or weak something is doesn't determine value.
It is too hard for humans to judge things on value because humans make mistakes very often.

No life is worth more than any other, we are all equal and the same in essence.

And I don't think Cash Stealer needs YOUR approval on whether his statement is credible or not. All he needs is his own approval.
You also acted like he needed your approval when you asked him about his name.
His name has nothing to do with his thread, you just asked him about his name so that he would explain why, and get YOUR approval towards him.
You always judge people on their credibility in order to get your approval. Why does anyone need your approval?
Are you any better than any other person on this planet?
No.

I think that the reason you don't approve of people, is because you don't have your own approval. You feel that you aren't good enough for your own approval. Thats why you feel the need to question other people and judge them before you can give them your approval. You judge yourself, thats why you judge others.

Do you approve of yourself?
Because your words don't show it.

Once again,

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS MY OPINION AND IN NO WAY DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE OR FOLLOW IT.

Are you any better than any other person on this planet?


Why yes. Yes I am.


I think that the reason you don't approve of people, is because you don't have your own approval. You feel that you aren't good enough for your own approval. Thats why you feel the need to question other people and judge them before you can give them your approval. You judge yourself, thats why you judge others.

Do you approve of yourself?
Because your words don't show it.


I do approve of myself, but no, I am not content.

I strive for more. I expect more. Without a God to string up some system of morals, I am forced to find value in this world while I am here. When you lost god, you slipped into a life denying and ugly nihilism. When I lost god, I replaced him with life affirmation. I strive for self mastery.

No part of this universe is fixed and objective. Where as you strive for a life standing still, my philosophy embraces change and stives for dominance and mastery of "the self".

And honestly, Cashstealer's met angels and demons? How does that not lose credibility. Have you met angels and demons too weedman? It wouldn't surprise me. You're a bigger fucking flake than he is.

Anyone who says they are better, is insecure, and puts others below him to make himself feel better.
No if and's or but's.

And I haven't met any angels or demons, but that doesn't mean I look down on someone for it.

You look down on others, because you look down on yourself.

The truth comes when you learn to LET IT GO. Stop looking for the truth and it will show itself to you.
All truth comes from within and only within.

In other words, no one can help you, only you can help yourself. Everything comes from self.

Your negative views, feelings, and actions, come from you CHOOSING to see negative.
Negative only exists if you let it.
Everything is a choice.
You choose to look, see, and feel things are negative, so these things become negative.

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS MY OPINION AND IN NO WAY DO YOU HAVE TO AGREE OR FOLLOW IT.

Anyone who says they are better, is insecure, and puts others below him to make himself feel better.
No if and's or but's.

Says who? Where's your source for this? Is this an actual fact? Provide grounds for this.


And I haven't met any angels or demons, but that doesn't mean I look down on someone for it.


Why? This is what I'm saying. Your idealistic equality... your delusion of of equality. When you consider claims like this to be equal to your own... it shows a lack of self respect and loss of value in this world.


You look down on others, because you look down on yourself.


No. I look down on others, when they value nothing in this world. Because like you, they've succumbed to nihilism. I look down on others, because I am above them. And this is not to say I look down on all others. There are a great number of people I have loads of respect for. I look down on people like you.


The truth comes when you learn to LET IT GO. Stop looking for the truth and it will show itself to you.
All truth comes from within and only within.

In other words, no one can help you, only you can help yourself. Everything comes from self.


Letting go... aka giving up. The truth comes from within? How would you know? You've denied everything within. You've lost track of within. Maybe this is why you are so far from "truth".


Your negative views, feelings, and actions, come from you CHOOSING to see negative.
Negative only exists if you let it.
Everything is a choice.
You choose to look, see, and feel things are negative, so these things become negative.



God. You're a fucking idiot.

Hahah my words make you mad only because you CHOOSE to be mad over them.
We just look at things totally opposite.
You belief is just as valid as mine.
Who can say your beliefs are more valid? Only YOU.
You choose to look at others and devalue them. Because you devalue yourself.
I value everything highly as I can, because it's positive for me. It makes me joyful, kind, understanding, and FREE. When I value everything highly, I value myself highly, without saying im BETTER.
You seem to think because I think things are equal that I can't value anything?
Its the opposite for me. Everything is equal, so I CHOOSE to Value everything HIGHLY.

Why can't you just like me for me?
Hahahahah:)

You insult so much, eventually maybe when you are an old lonely, bitter man you will realize where your life went.

Also, to cash stealer, sorry if I hijacked your thread. But you have to admit, it's pretty hillarious watching Kazz go crazy because someone has a different opinion than him. And the thing is, my belief doesn't even affect him, other than his ego. Which he just loves to stroke.
Everything in Life is hillarious, great, beautiful, and just so Good.
Even the "bad" is good.

I value everything highly as I can, because it's positive for me. It makes me joyful, kind, understanding, and FREE.

Another reason I am better than you. You are confused and don't even know it. You think you are free, but your definition is far off. You are slave to every condition in this world... every condition in this life... the only thing that makes you free is the fact that you refuse to admit this truth. You are lost in a dream. A far off, ridiculous dream. You are a slave to the conditions of life, and just because you pretend you are not, does not mean you are not a slave.

A better definition of freedom. A more noble definition of freedom. A true, real definition of freedom:

"In fact, this freedom "is for the very few" and for the "very strong". Independence is something for which one has to test oneself, and if one "comes to grief, this happens so far from the comprehension of men that they neither feel it nor sympathize" . The characteristics of the free spirit are characteristics that are uncommon among humanity: the free spirits are subtle and have "the art of nuances"; they are "extra-moral" and "immoralists" -- that is, they do not bind themselves to the conventional beliefs about morality in which most people place their faith

The primary characteristics of the free spirit, however, elucidate this type in a specific way that denies that the free spirit is merely a rare person. Free spirits are a type that is primarily critical of and cautious toward all beliefs. The free spirit is one who believes that many commonly accepted beliefs, such as the morality of altruism preached by Christianity and other religions, "must be questioned mercilessly and taken to court." The free spirit resists the "seductions" of feelings that are attractive . And the free spirit is precise, an attribute that is required for penetrating criticism: Free spirits experience "disgust with what is clumsy and approximate".

The free spirit is, first and foremost , one who has liberated himself from the necessity of fidelity to a particular ideological position. This means, on one level, that the free spirit is critical of existing interpretations made by others and is able to examine them incisively. On another level, it means that the free spirit is courageous enough to examine his own position critically and reform it if necessary. One who is "destined for independence" must not remain "stuck" to any of several things."


Why can't you just like me for me?
Hahahahah:)

Because you're a flake. A flake with a dumbfounded world view... A world view that devalues life... and because you perpetuate the devaluation of life. People like you are holding humanity back.


You insult so much, eventually maybe when you are an old lonely, bitter man you will realize where your life went.

Once again, and what you don't get... I would rather live among a few great men, than a billion fucking idiots. If ascending high above the mires you people create for yourselves means solitude, then I will make my home in solitude. It will still be a million times more meaningful than your life can ever be capable of.

Drop the $1000 self improvement class bullshit, and grow up.

You think I devalue, I don't think I do. Theres our difference.
I'm going to leave this thread with that. I Acknowledge where we differ in our beliefs, and accept it for what it is. A difference and thats all. Honestly I wish the best life that you could ever possibly have. Good day.

You think I devalue, I don't think I do. Theres our difference.
I'm going to leave this thread with that. I Acknowledge where we differ in our beliefs, and accept it for what it is. A difference and thats all. Honestly I wish the best life that you could ever possibly have. Good day.

I don't think you do... it happens as a byproduct of the philosophy you dedicate your life to. It happens by default... by definition.

I hope something terrible happens to you. Something so terrible, you can't just shrug it off and "love the bad". Maybe then you'll wake up.

Bye.

I don't think you do... it happens as a byproduct of the philosophy you dedicate your life to. It happens by default... by definition.

I hope something terrible happens to you. Something so terrible, you can't just shrug it off and "love the bad". Maybe then you'll wake up.

Bye.

This guy is an idiot.

Haha.

Nah cash stealer. Hes just what he IS.
He isn't good or bad, he's just kazz.
Don't let the negative get to you man. Seriously. Always be positive no matter what comes your way. My entire family could be killed in front of me, tortured, and I could still live a life with Happiness. It's all a choice right down to the very "end".

***I take back what I said about leaving this thread. I meant that I will leave my conversation with kazz with this, that we differ in a belief.***

I still want to talk to cash stealer haha. Seriously we should just ignore kazz and his negativity because his negativity just feeds on positivity. Like i've said before, positive thoughts generate energy, while negative thoughts drain energy. Positive thinking helps us move forward while negative thinking keeps us thinking about past and future. Always away from the MOMENT.

Not that kazz's opinion isn't credible, or valuable, it is. But there is no reason to feed his anger, hatred, jealousy, and fear. Let him be.\

Oh and the most imporant thing about living positive, is you shouldn't preach or talk about living positively. You should just LIVE it. People will see how it works for you, and they will begin to also live positively.

Yeah? Did the angels tell you that?

If you would be so kind... please do explain just how you met these entities. No. This is not condescending... I'm just really interested. I want to hear you talk about this.

Or I could take this approach...

"I'm only an idiot if you choose to call me an idiot. We are all the same! We are all valuable, big or small, strong or weak! Don't you see? The reason you call me an idiot is because deep down inside you must think you're an idiot. Let go of the negative! All life is peachy! Get me a tampon! The power of choice! Yayyy!."

Yeah? Did the angels tell you that?

If you would be so kind... please do explain just how you met these entities. No. This is not condescending... I'm just really interested. I want to hear you talk about this.

Or I could take this approach...

"I'm only an idiot if you choose to call me an idiot. We are all the same! We are all valuable, big or small, strong or weak! Don't you see? The reason you call me an idiot is because deep down inside you must think you're an idiot. Let go of the negative! All life is peachy! Get me a tampon! The power of choice! Yayyy!."

Every human on earth has the ability to communicate with the spiritual realm.

You can talk to those who are living, those who are dead, as well as talk and communicate with Angels and Demons.

It all happens when you go to sleep at night. When you go to sleep, small amounts of dimethyltryptamine are released into your brain.

While you are sleeping, if you are able to recognize that you are infact asleep and no longer in the physical realm, you can do whatever you want. You are now in an astral body, that is both invisible and weightless. You can travel to any place, any time, and any realm or dimension that you chose.

I have been able to have lucid dreams ever since I was 5 years old. I've talked to countless entities ever since I was a baby. I have spoken to God (the power source) The Devil (God's negative, his yang and evil twin brother) as well as multitudes of Angels and Demons that dance around all day long in the spiritual realm.

The thing about dimethyltryptamine is that once released, it has a natural ability to make 99% of humans on earth forget the dreams they experience during the time they are asleep. Most people dont even remember their dreams, or they vaguely remember about 1-5% of the time they were asleep.

For some reason dimethyltryptamine makes your memories delete themselves, as if you had pressed the "file --> delete" button on a computer hard drive. It is similar to dragging a program on your computer desktop to the recycle bin, then pressing the "empty recycle bin" button.

See cash stealer. Even though you just provided a very valuable part of your beliefs, kazz is still going to insult, devalue, and plain deny that your belief should be credible.

You know what you believe, and you believe in it, and that's all that really matters. We humans often like to push our beliefs on others and hope for approval, but really all I believe we need is our own approval. I feel if everyone just lived their beliefs and approved of themselves we would stop alot of harm from happening.
The harder we push, the harder people push back.
I really think your belief system is interesting. I can see it in myself, but in just a different variation. You have a very open mind and I feel that is very important to anyone wishing to find "truth".

Every human on earth has the ability to communicate with the spiritual realm.

You can talk to those who are living, those who are dead, as well as talk and communicate with Angels and Demons.

It all happens when you go to sleep at night. When you go to sleep, small amounts of dimethyltryptamine are released into your brain.

While you are sleeping, if you are able to recognize that you are infact asleep and no longer in the physical realm, you can do whatever you want. You are now in an astral body, that is both invisible and weightless. You can travel to any place, any time, and any realm or dimension that you chose.

I have been able to have lucid dreams ever since I was 5 years old. I've talked to countless entities ever since I was a baby. I have spoken to God (the power source) The Devil (God's negative, his yang and evil twin brother) as well as multitudes of Angels and Demons that dance around all day long in the spiritual realm.

The thing about dimethyltryptamine is that once released, it has a natural ability to make 99% of humans on earth forget the dreams they experience during the time they are asleep. Most people dont even remember their dreams, or they vaguely remember about 1-5% of the time they were asleep.

For some reason dimethyltryptamine makes your memories delete themselves, as if you had pressed the "file --> delete" button on a computer hard drive. It is similar to dragging a program on your computer desktop to the recycle bin, then pressing the "empty recycle bin" button.

So that means you have no idea what you talked with them about?

So that means you have no idea what you talked with them about?

No, I have learned to hone my abilities and remember portions of the dreams I experience.

Thats the main reason I created this thread. One of the angels I spoke to showed me a future where this reality that I described could very well come true - if we choose to sit idley by and let others run our lives for us.

They also told me how humans could beat the system, and that there were loopholes in the stories of Revelation.

It's a very true belief system though, one that isn't based upon the evil do-ers burning in hell forever and for all eternity - like so many Catholics and Devout Christians describe.

They tell me that humanity needs to learn to co-exist with one another. We should not judge people based upon their outward appearance, nor their words (because often times human beings lie).

You should judge people based upon how they treat and respond to others, what other people say about their character (friends, family, close people in their lives). People should be judged based upon their ACTIONS, not spoken word, not what they look like, and not because they have a higher position of power over you (such as a mighty king, a strong president, or a leader of parliament.)

They also tell me that in order to achieve piece, we must eliminate hatred and war. There is no reason to kill each other if we learn to work together to create a better world for everyone involved.

Every human has the right to live a peaceful life, and that right was given to them the day they were born - by the power source itself.

You should judge people based upon how they treat and respond to others, what other people say about their character (friends, family, close people in their lives). People should be judged based upon their ACTIONS, not spoken word, not what they look like, and not because they have a higher position of power over you (such as a mighty king, a strong president, or a leader of parliament.)

You shouldn't judge anyone, even based upon their actions. Judging leads to blame, which is negative. No matter how you look at it, we must get rid of judgement. When we pass judgement we say something is good, and the opposite must be bad, but that isn't true. What is true is that there is good everywhere. Its soo engrained in our society, us, etc. that we have a hard time not judging and blaming. But guess what, we can change it. All we have to do is acknowledge when we judge, and accept it for what it is then decide to not judge.
We are no one to judge. If we say that we can judge, then that leaves others to judge you. Just my belief atleast. It's just a matter of lookin at life Positive no matter what.

You should judge people based upon how they treat and respond to others, what other people say about their character (friends, family, close people in their lives). People should be judged based upon their ACTIONS, not spoken word, not what they look like, and not because they have a higher position of power over you (such as a mighty king, a strong president, or a leader of parliament.)

You shouldn't judge anyone, even based upon their actions. Judging leads to blame, which is negative. No matter how you look at it, we must get rid of judgement. When we pass judgement we say something is good, and the opposite must be bad, but that isn't true. What is true is that there is good everywhere. Its soo engrained in our society, us, etc. that we have a hard time not judging and blaming. But guess what, we can change it. All we have to do is acknowledge when we judge, and accept it for what it is then decide to not judge.
We are no one to judge. If we say that we can judge, then that leaves others to judge you. Just my belief atleast. It's just a matter of lookin at life Positive no matter what.

You are incorrect.

We make unconscious judgements about all human beings in this world. They take a split second, and it happens when you first meet a person.

Judgement is the only way to distinquish between A good man, and A man of pure evil.

I agree that we should try not judge, but the rule of "No Judgement" applies to the Spiritual Realm.

Right now we are on the physical plane, and it is within every right of man to judge the man standing next to him.

The spiritual rule that you are talking about does not apply to the Earth we currently live on.

Judgement is the only way to distinguish once and for all, without a doubt in your mind, between good and evil.

Even if all of that were true, which it is not, attempting to alter those events would be the equivalent of interfering with Jesus' crucifixion; Christianity itself, as well as the course of human events would be drastically altered.

Being a Christian entails that prophecies are upheld, and the supposed word of "God" dictates that such events cannot be changed.

Can you see the conflict?

Even if all of that were true, which it is not, attempting to alter those events would be the equivalent of interfering with Jesus' crucifixion; Christianity itself, as well as the course of human events would be drastically altered.

Being a Christian entails that prophecies are upheld, and the supposed word of "God" dictates that such events cannot be changed.

Can you see the conflict?

I believe the Bible was created as GUIDELINES for living a good life, it is not absolute truth. Not everything described in the Bible has to happen.

The stories describe possible futures and realities that could happen if humans fail to learn to co-exist, rather than destroy each other.

As I said earlier in this thread, I am not a part of any one religion. I consider myself Agnostic, with underlying beliefs in Christianity and Buddhism.

I am not here to preach. I am not here to convert everyone to a religion.

I am here to discuss collective philosophy and common sense. It is my hope that we can learn to co-exist, and stop starting wars with other countries and killing people in the name of whatever god you claim to "know."

I am also here to describe my personal experiences through my own meditation, and dream experiences that I've had while sleeping.

That is all.

You are incorrect.

We make unconscious judgements about all human beings in this world. They take a split second, and it happens when you first meet a person.

Judgement is the only way to distinquish between A good man, and A man of pure evil.

I agree that we should try not judge, but the rule of "No Judgement" applies to the Spiritual Realm.

Right now we are on the physical plane, and it is within every right of man to judge the man standing next to him.

The spiritual rule that you are talking about does not apply to the Earth we currently live on.

Judgement is the only way to distinguish once and for all, without a doubt in your mind, between good and evil.


I just don't believe that things are either good or evil. I just view things in the concept of harm or non harm. Every life and being is valuable, and thus we should not ever harm if we know we are causing harm. And we should always make the choice that causes the least harm. I feel that sometimes we do have to stop harm, and sometimes that means harming someone who is causing harm. I guess we do have to judge, but I don't think we should judge as good or evil. We should judge things on harm or non harm. Its pretty close, but the ideas differ slightly. Look up buddhist philosophy on harm and non harm and that will give you an idea of what I believe. But I guess you do have to judge whether something is harm or non harm.
I just don't feel that harm is always evil. Sometimes we must harm in order to stop MORE harm from happening.

...I left alone,
my mind was blank.
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind!

What did I see,
can I believe,
that what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy?


do do DOooo!

Sigh, I couldn't help it. ;)

Night was black,
'twas no use holding back.
Cause I just had to see.
Was someone watching me?

In the mist, dark figures move and twist.
Was this all for real, or just some kind of hell?
Six, six, six, the number of the beast.
Hell and fire were spawned to be released.

Torches blazed and sacred chants were praised,
As they start to cry - hands held to the sky.
In the night, the fires were burning bright.
The ritual has begun, Satan's work is done!

666... The Number of the Beast