My views on the ideas of the amish religeon

ok first off for those who dont know them :

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish check the wiki page

For those clever enough to have an idea who they are (i hope most of you) =

just something i read on the wiki page i thought id bring up...

they dont use churchs; they worship in their houses because of a quote from the bible "The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands..." (Acts 17:24)

The meaning of The word "Temple" by the oxford dictionary is ;

• noun a building devoted to the worship of a god or gods.

If they worship at home.. as in inside a house ..which they do , it becomes a temple, they also build these "temples" with their hands as they dont belive in machinery, so all their praying is going to waste.. if anything it seems that god endorses our modern lives...theres nothing wrong with evolution... if evolution wasnt meant to happen wed all be living in caves still.

this isnt a rant about how much i love god by the way im neither here or there about it ... but if there was a god ... well you get the drift im sure.

I wasn't aware that the Amish don't 'believe in machinery'...

They're just technologically impaired! (thanks Weird Al).

They use machinery but only of the more primitive variety (ie whats driven by hand, animal or force of nature).

The Elders decide what and which technology may be used. The different groups (old order, dunkers etc )vary somewhat in this regard.

It also depends really, like Menonites(sp?) can drive cars and do alot of things that Amish can't. Amish can however use oil in lamps and to run their ceiling fans and stuff. I'v been in an Amish house while on vacation.

The thing that most people wouldn't realize is that most of the Amish are millionairs. They have had pretty much everything they own from being passed down through the generations, their farm, their land, their buggy :P

As for their house being a temple, what it really comes down to is if you label it a temple or not. These people live in their houses as well as pray in them. If praying within any building automatically makes it a temple, than oxford would be right. The bible says god doesn't dwell in man made temples, so the way I look at it you call it a temple if its a building specifically built to go to worship and pray.

I heard in BLTC some Amish grow and smoke pot.

:eek:

That Bible quote just means you don't need to be in a Temple to worship God...

The amish still do go to church though, they are known for being very communal and church is where they get together, or when theirs a barn raisin' :D

I heard in BLTC some Amish grow and smoke pot.

:eek:

No one said they're perfect.

No one said they're perfect.

What does the growing and smoking of pot have to do with imperfection?

Amish society isn't so much about religion per se, but tradition and lifestyle. For instance, they tend to avoid getting immunized, not because it is forbidden by their religion, but just because they choose not to do it.

However, some years ago, there was a polio epidemic among the Amish in Pennsylvania --I worked for the PA Dept of Health at the time--and once we sat down with the leaders and explained the situation, the elders agreed that they didn't want to harm their neighbors by possibly passing polio on to them, so we set up a special immunization program for them, and the disease never reached outside of the local Amish community.

iMa BUILD A barn.

Bruder, Ich will eine Scheune errichten, mit Gottes Hilfe...

Fixed!

Amish society isn't so much about religion per se, but tradition and lifestyle. For instance, they tend to avoid getting immunized, not because it is forbidden by their religion, but just because they choose not to do it.

However, some years ago, there was a polio epidemic among the Amish in Pennsylvania --I worked for the PA Dept of Health at the time--and once we sat down with the leaders and explained the situation, the elders agreed that they didn't want to harm their neighbors by possibly passing polio on to them, so we set up a special immunization program for them, and the disease never reached outside of the local Amish community.

Was that anywhere near Lancaster at all? I always go there for vacation for a couple days and there are TONS of amish in and around Lancaster.

I used to live in lancaster before going to college, and yes...there are tons of amish up there

Was that anywhere near Lancaster at all? I always go there for vacation for a couple days and there are TONS of amish in and around Lancaster.

That general area--you know, Intercourse, Bird in Hand, Blue Ball--this happened in 1979, BTW.

That general area--you know, Intercourse, Bird in Hand, Blue Ball--this happened in 1979, BTW.

haha yea I'v been all around the different areas there. The places all have the coolest fucking names...

Bird-in-Hand
Intercourse
Leola
Lititz
Paradise
Blue Ball
Nottingham

lol weird ass names that's for sure. I've always been fascinated by the Amish. I think becoming Amish may be my solution to living the "simple life" I have always dreamed of. I will really really miss computers though. Do any of the different branches allow DC electricity :D ???

^I would think so, if only so they could have tail-lights on their buggies.

Off-topic--you see an Amish place with the front gate painted blue, it means they have a marriageable daughter in the household.

^I would think so, if only so they could have tail-lights on their buggies.

Off-topic--you see an Amish place with the front gate painted blue, it means they have a marriageable daughter in the household.

Yea its a law that they have to have operating lights on their buggies...

Are you serious? I'll have to keep on the lookout for blue gates when I get down to Amish country again :p

The blue gate custom was extant in the fifties and sixties, I can't speak for today.

The blue gate custom was extant in the fifties and sixties, I can't speak for today.

ohh... haha

Totally off topic but I send my knives to a firm in Intercourse for regrinding-from the UK.

Name always makes me giggle...

Sad I know.

Totally off topic but I send my knives to a firm in Intercourse for regrinding-from the UK.

Name always makes me giggle...

Sad I know.

Yea thats one of the funny ones, Blue Ball always gave me a chuckle. Its funny cause if you go around you can find these things up that tell you about how the areas got their names.

Yea thats one of the funny ones, Blue Ball always gave me a chuckle. Its funny cause if you go around you can find these things up that tell you about how the areas got their names.

I don't remember if its in Germany or Austria but there is a town called 'Wank'..that always amuses.

I don't remember if its in Germany or Austria but there is a town called 'Wank'..that always amuses.

Thats like theres a province in Thailand called Phuket (Fuck it), althought its not exaclty pronounced like that, its more roughly "pookget", but anyway...

Back on topic....

I wasn't aware that the Amish don't 'believe in machinery'...

They're just technologically impaired! (thanks Weird Al).

They use machinery but only of the more primitive variety (ie whats driven by hand, animal or force of nature).

The Elders decide what and which technology may be used. The different groups (old order, dunkers etc )vary somewhat in this regard.

Wrong. I live in a town not to far from Independence, KC and theres an amish settlement around there. They use machinery for cutting up logs and such but they are gaspowered. Many of there machines if not all are gas powered.

Wrong. I live in a town not to far from Independence, KC and theres an amish settlement around there. They use machinery for cutting up logs and such but they are gaspowered. Many of there machines if not all are gas powered.

Yea they are alowd to use gas and oil because it comes from the earth.

doesn't like......everything come from the earth?

I like the amish. There aren't very many fat amish.

they dont use churchs; they worship in their houses because of a quote from the bible "The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands..." (Acts 17:24)

The meaning of The word "Temple" by the oxford dictionary is ;

• noun a building devoted to the worship of a god or gods.

If they worship at home.. as in inside a house ..which they do , it becomes a temple, they also build these "temples" with their hands as they dont belive in machinery, so all their praying is going to waste.. if anything it seems that god endorses our modern lives...theres nothing wrong with evolution... if evolution wasnt meant to happen wed all be living in caves still.


I think you're taking the quote a little too literally and too far out of context. In the context of the chapter in which that was written, Paul is admonishing the people of Athens for erecting a shrine to the god he is preaching about, dedicating it to "The Unknown God". The implication is that they are believing in the existence of the god he is telling them about and offering token worship, but without faith. They think it's enough to have a shrine dedicated to his god, when he knows full well that there's to be no other gods before his own. So he explains to them that God does not dwell in temples, nor in "the hands" that worship, but in true faith.

If that's what their belief is based on, it's not really that much different than the Christian belief that true faith isn't found in displays of worship at church, but in private devotion to God. After all, going to Church every Sunday or every Easter isn't going to get you into Heaven, is it?

the blue gate thing is really bad ass. the amish culture is pretty cool, and i would really enjoy being a farmer or something in a little amish town.

I didn't see anyone else point this out, so i guess I will. Houses are more than just for worship, so it isn't a building DEVOTED to worship.

EDIT: How the Amish and the Oxford dictionary define temple might differ a bit as well

On the topic of funny names:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dildo%2C_Newfoundland_and_Labrador
and,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_Smashed_In_Buffalo_Jump

The second isn't all that funny, but I giggle.

As for the temple, I thing the deciding factor would be the main purpose it was designed for.