I was in the hallway, drying my hands on a towel, when I heard my mother in my sister's bedroom, talking to her. Basically, she told her that she didn't know what to do, because she can't take both dogs to get blessed on her own, didn't want to leave one unblessed and knew I wouldn't help walk them to wherever it is she's taking them.

And she's correct: I won't help her pull my dogs into her perverted belief system. They're like little kids and won't know what's going on. I know it's just a silly ceremony and will have no bearings in reality, but for some reason, it feels really wrong to me and like she's dirtying our dogs.

Your mum sounds bat shit crazy.

Who blesses their animals? I didn't know Xtians believed in doggy heaven since a dog can't waste its life appeasing a hidden master.

The dogs wont give a shit and neither should you....

The dogs wont give a shit and neither should you....

That's obvious, but for some reason it still makes me uncomfortable.

I would try to look at it like this, Hare:

You would probably not be opposed to your mother praying for your dogs in the event of an accident or a medical treatment that threatened their lives. You'd realize it was your mother's way of hoping that they get better and trying to express it the best way she knows how. You'd see that it made her feel better, even though it would have no real impact on the dogs.

Having them blessed is no different than praying, really. Surely you're used to your mother praying for you and your loved ones, which includes your pets. Having them blessed is really just like her praying for them, only they have to participate by being present while she does it.

I won't state the obvious regarding your dog's inability to comprehend her blessings or prayers (they probably will just dig the attention) - but I do hope you can find it in you to humor her regarding the canine ceremonies. No real harm done, is there?

^^^ that...

She didn’t know anything about the event but was invited because she’s the church cleaner, however your probably right about this. I sat on the couch and thought to myself that this is probably her way of dealing with the dogs getting on in age. When she asked me to come, you could kind of see this was the case, but I said no because it really felt wrong to me. Now I kind of feel bad.

That's obvious, but for some reason it still makes me uncomfortable.

Probably because of the OCD.

But, poking fun aside, just stop caring man. Or try to...you know it doesn't truly matter.

Or...at least get more effective pills :p.

I see you’re still spreading the old solipsistic pantheism built on the remnants of quantum quackery and outdated, Cartesian epistemology. Perhaps you should buy some less effective pills, or lay off altogether for awhile.

solipsistic pantheism built on the remnants of quantum quackery and outdated, Cartesian epistemology

Fucking awesome.

Your mum sounds bat shit crazy.



oh lawd yes

sat on the couch and thought to myself that this is probably her way of dealing with the dogs getting on in age.

Now I kind of feel bad.

When my dad's pet died, I was astonished to find myself consoling his grief by saying "He's in a better place now". I felt like I betrayed my beliefs a little bit by stating something I didn't at all believe to be true, but I got over it because I know that ultimately, I was just trying to make the old man feel better. Who likes seeing their parents all distraught?

Hare_Geist, you are either a troll or an asshole (likely both).

Why won't you just help your mom "bless" her dogs? Who cares?

Why do you have to be so annoying about this?

What I don't understand is why your mom can't take the both of the dogs herself. I mean is she can't handle taking both your dogs sumwhere together maybe you shouldn't have two dogs. Just my opinion.

In any event though what others have said is true. What does it matter to you, or the dogs, if they get blessed? I agree it is a pretty retarded thing to do but if your mom wants to do it than let her do her thing.

If I had dogs, i'd bless them too. Just think about it.

If demons every took over the world, your dogs would be badass bodyguards.

<only here because i saw this in the hot topics>

your mother should be shot. that is all.

Hare_Geist, you are either a troll or an asshole (likely both).


But more likely none... seeing as how he is one of the most legitimate posters I've ever seen on here. And coming from you, your comment tingled with irony.

I can see how that might make you uncomfortable Hare. I know it really isn't effecting anything... but if it were me I think it would almost get under my skin because of what it symbolizes... that being the empty rituals and WASTE OF TIME agenda of 'the cross'.

Then again, as much as I would be rolling my eyes... because this was important to my mom, and made her feel better about the dogs getting old, I wouldn't go out of my way to make her feel stupid for it.

If I had dogs, i'd bless them too. Just think about it.

If demons every took over the world, your dogs would be badass bodyguards.

this.

Just bless the dogs yourself and be done with it.

Thinking that the blessing from some sort of priest is more effective than a blessing from anyone else is an obsolete Piscean Age artifact.

Don't fucking encourage obscured horse shit that doesn't actually directly adress the issue.

If there's no such thing as god then there's nothing wrong with getting them baptized. You let them run through sprinklers right? They're not allergic to water are they? I think you just hate religion so much that instead of considering the water to have no spiritual power, you consider the water to have evil spiritual power.

Quit letting your emotions get in the way.

It's just water...

That's obvious, but for some reason it still makes me uncomfortable.

Then it's up to you to change.

Life is what you make it....every second.

I say just go along with it, make your mom happy and then ask her if she will take you out to lunch or something after. Free meal, mom is happy, fuck yeah!

I don't know what's dumber. Having your pets blessed or being against your pets being blessed.
This thread is a joke.

scoo! Big Scoo! SCOO! SCOOBY-DOOBY-DOOBY-DOO! BIG SCOO! scoo!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aEr2Spughgw

get tech9 to bless your dogs

scoo! Big Scoo! SCOO! SCOOBY-DOOBY-DOOBY-DOO! BIG SCOO! scoo!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aEr2Spughgw

get tech9 to bless your dogs

"the reason I take showers? Cause I don't like sitting in my ass water!"

There is no reason to have a dog blessed, it's a waste of time and another reason to laugh at the church for wasting said time.

I HOPE JESUS PASSES YOU ALL UP BECAUSE YOU WASTED TIME TOSSING WATER AND SHIT ON DOGS.

I don't know what's dumber. Having your pets blessed or being against your pets being blessed.
This thread is a joke.

Right. We should be in favor of idiotic superstitions!

I don't know what's dumber. Having your pets blessed or being against your pets being blessed.
This thread is a joke.

Quite the contrary. The thread alludes to some fundamental and important philosophical and therological issues, including but hardly not limited to :

1. Do animals have souls? Some of the great philosophers wrestled with this one.
2. What is the best way to relate with our fellow creratures--"dominion" or "stewardship.
3. Do we have the right to impose our own beliefs on others, be they two-leggeds or four-leggeds?

Quite the contrary. The thread alludes to some fundamental and important philosophical and therological issues, including but hardly not limited to :

1. Do animals have souls? Some of the great philosophers wrestled with this one.
2. What is the best way to relate with our fellow creratures--"dominion" or "stewardship.
3. Do we have the right to impose our own beliefs on others, be they two-leggeds or four-leggeds?

It depends on what you mean by a soul. Like this for instance, if you took a frog and put it in a container full of dead flies for it to eat, it will starve to death. Scientists say that this is because frogs function off of reflexes, it does not see the fly as food, but rather just the movement of it and it reacts. Because of this they believe frogs are not really conscious like we are. Some would say, is there a soul at all? Regardless if we are animal or human.

I don't think we have the right to impose our beliefs on anyone, although discussing them is always good. Whether you bless your dogs or not I don't think it really matters, Your not really imposing the beliefs on the dog, because it probably doesn't understand what is going on anyway.

Basically what it comes down to, in my eyes anyway, is that nothing is born with a knowledge of god. The dogs won't care either way if their blessed or not because they wouldnt understand the underlying reasons behind it and such. To them its just gettin flicked with water and given a treat.

It's not so much how it impacts the dogs, it's Hare Geist's reaction to a ritual he ought to be used to by now, having grown up in a religious household.

All he has to do is not participate, and there is no issue to be had. The dogs aren't affected. He's not affected. The mother is happy in the end.

It's not so much how it impacts the dogs, it's Hare Geist's reaction to a ritual he ought to be used to by now, having grown up in a religious household.

All he has to do is not participate, and there is no issue to be had. The dogs aren't affected. He's not affected. The mother is happy in the end.

One generation must suffer, in order to stop the madness. Will our generation be the one to take the blow? Are we strong enough to oust the virus from our society? I say yes. What is your say?

One generation must suffer, in order to stop the madness. Will our generation be the one to take the blow? Are we strong enough to oust the virus from our society? I say yes. What is your say?

I kind of agree, I mean its not really the point that it bothers the OP nor is it how it impacts the dogs (although the post is about that) I think the problem at hand is whether to drag out christanity or finally get rid of it, and you can't just let it go and everything will be ok.

It has people brainwashed so much that they believe they need to get their pets blessed in order for them to go to heaven. I mean, not to insult the intelligence of any animals, but do you honestly think they have any idea of god? You have to accept jesus into your life in order to get to heaven, according the christains. How many animals even know of jesus, how many care?

I kind of agree, I mean its not really the point that it bothers the OP nor is it how it impacts the dogs (although the post is about that) I think the problem at hand is whether to drag out christanity or finally get rid of it, and you can't just let it go and everything will be ok.

It has people brainwashed so much that they believe they need to get their pets blessed in order for them to go to heaven. I mean, not to insult the intelligence of any animals, but do you honestly think they have any idea of god? You have to accept jesus into your life in order to get to heaven, according the christains. How many animals even know of jesus, how many care?

Will we be willing to sacrifice our time in order for a more productive future society? The ball is in our court. We are going to be ruling this blue world, and those old men are now dead, or about to die. It is up to us to make that change, no-one else will do it for us.

We need a man as strong as Hitler to lead us into a world dominated by science and the arts. The question is...who will be strong enough? If only Hitler had won, perhaps this world would have been created already... instead, we have a society dominated by selfish needs.

~"If you expect a nation to be ignorant and free, you expect what never was, and can never be." - Thomas Jefferson

All he has to do is not participate, and there is no issue to be had. The dogs aren't affected. He's not affected. The mother is happy in the end.

The thing is, for his mother to be happy, he technically did have to participate:

"she didn't know what to do, because she can't take both dogs to get blessed on her own, didn't want to leave one unblessed and knew I wouldn't help walk them to wherever it is she's taking them."

His mother wanted him to walk the dogs to be blessed.

He has to decide whether it's better to induldge the superstition, by taking the dogs like his mother wanted, or not indulging it and risking upsetting his mother.

The thing is, for his mother to be happy, he technically did have to participate:

"she didn't know what to do, because she can't take both dogs to get blessed on her own, didn't want to leave one unblessed and knew I wouldn't help walk them to wherever it is she's taking them."

His mother wanted him to walk the dogs to be blessed.

He has to decide whether it's better to induldge the superstition, by taking the dogs like his mother wanted, or not indulging it and risking upsetting his mother.

Would the OP really care if his mom got upset for the sole reason that he would not follow her beliefs? I still don't understand why his mom can't take both the dogs herself but thats not really important. The point is that if you truly believe something than stand up for it, tell her why you wouldn't want to do it. I don't see why being honest with yourself and your mom would make her mad, but if she does shes obviously selfish and closed-minded, which in that case you shouldn't care if she gets mad.

The reason I’m uncomfortable with it is because my dogs are like little kids. You can say the same thing about kids as you can about my dogs: that blessing them won’t hurt them because they won’t know what’s going on. Yet the effect it had on my mother - who had to consult her Bible to see whether it is just or unjust to put a homosexual in jail for having sex - is intolerable. It’s true that my dogs won’t develop all the thinking abilities of an adult, yet not all kids will either. The principle would, I hope, still hold for them though, that beliefs of an extremely questionable nature shouldn’t be imposed upon them.

If I were to help my mother walk the dogs to where they’ll be blessed - which I would have to do, since we haven’t a car and the dogs can be a handful - then I would in part be responsible for imposing beliefs upon them. So my choice is either go against my principles and help my mother indulge in what I see as questionable practices, or say no and upset her.

Do both dogs have to be blessed at the same time? If she can take them one at a time, then your participation won't be needed. I would stick by my guns by refusing to participate, and if she really wants them blessed, she'll arrange to have them done at different times.

I understand the principle of the matter, which is that you don't want any part of her imposing beliefs on your dogs, who are like little kids to you. But if you can find a way to duck out of going with her, I promise you ... your dogs won't have any inkling to the significance of this blessing ritual. Going to a church/peeing on the corner fire hydrant - it's all the same to them.

If it's necessary to making you feel better, you could always give the dogs a good debriefing afterwards by attempting to make them comprehend that the ceremony was meaningless. And if you ever catch them kneeling in their own fashion of doggie prayer, you can always resort to the good old swatting of a newspaper on their noses to show them the error in their thinking.
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I dont even really think it is about the dogs so much as it is having a mother who is this superstitious.

I know that would disturb me. My parents are both spiritual and believe in God but attend no church or really respect organized religion. It would be difficult for me to deal with if they were as superstitious as your mom.