What would happen if Xtians were not so outspoken and whiny about their INSANE belief structure.

What would happen if they stopped crying bloody murder if they see a naked body on network TV?

What would happen if a commercial could say "Buy THIS shit, buddy!"

I will tell you...

People would start watching the secular channels. They would start watching channels that allowed profanity and naked people. It is more interesting.

That is just one example invovling television but my point is this.....if Xtians did not push their beliefs (which they hold as absolute truth mind you) Xtians would dwindle at an alarming rate. People would "tune in" to more entertaining aspects of life.

Besides all of that what is the fun in denying yourself the simple pleasures in life if you cannot look down your nose at people who TRULY live life?

Envy also motivates xtians to tell others how to live. Tell me a sexually frustrated married holy roller who NEVER gets a blowjob does not envy a person about to fuck the brains out of two or three lipstick lesbians.

There are a number of reasons WHY xtians push their illogical and unprovable beliefs on secular society. What other reasons are behind xtians pushing their ideology on rational human beings?

What other reasons are behind xtians pushing their ideology on rational human beings?

Some believe that they are correct, but feel they need to justify it by belittling other beliefs.

Oh wait...doesn't that work on you too?

Dear Christians,

I'm sorry about the above poster, he is truely a poor sample of atheists as a whole and his misinformed state on your religion should not be taken as a reason to deny the opinions of atheists as a whole.


What would happen if Xtians were not so outspoken and whiny about their INSANE belief structure.


Then Christianity would no longer spread and would likely die out fairly quickly. Hardly anyone would deny that.

What would happen if they stopped crying bloody murder if they see a naked body on network TV?

If the government regulations on our public airways are lessened due to this then likely the amount of nudity/violence/profanity on public television would likely increase; however, several studies have shown that exposure of youth to pornographic images and violence before a certain age can have a dramatic impact on their development, and several counter-measures should absolutely be added to protect more impressionable citizens before any restrictions are lessened.


What would happen if a commercial could say "Buy THIS shit, buddy!"

It would still be unlikely that any corporation would waste their resources on such an unconvincing advertisement.


Are you serious? All this stuff is incredibly obvious and common sense. Do people really go over this stuff in their minds and are unable to come up with adequate answers? Absolutely not.

Your last three paragraphs essentially say. "Why would you not live for fun if you can't look down at those who do?

Envy is what motivates Christians to try to stop other's from living.

There are a number of reasons for why they do this. What other reasons are there for this?"

Response to paragraph 1: They justify it because they view it as being more moral, not so they can look down on others.

Paragraph 2: In this paragraph you give an example that goes against the point you are trying to make since the married person does generally try to stop the unmarried guy from receiving his blow jobs; however, Christians usually justify their pushing their views upon others for moral reasons.

Paragraph 3: WTF? You say there are a number of reasons, then ask us for the other reasons? How can we give others if you don't tell us what the first ones are???

Honestly, if I whole-heartedly believed that people who didn't follow my beliefs were going to be summoned to an eternal period of suffering, I don't know how I could justify not doing everything I could to help protect them.

What would happen if Xtians were not so outspoken and whiny about their INSANE belief structure.

Your answer:

Then Christianity would no longer spread and would likely die out fairly quickly. Hardly anyone would deny that.

My point. It would die out because people would stop denying themselves the simple pleasures of life. People would watch what they want to watch (tits, cursing and all) without guilt. People would fuck like they want to fuck. Nobody there to tell you how "wrong" it is.

My question is "What do Xtians get from all the self denial and finger wagging?"

You apparently believe the sole reason is b/c they believe and try to follow a PERSONAL moral code? Rather generic, simplistic and unimaginitive don't you think?

I feel that in most cases Xtians are envious of secular societies freedom and can only feel good here on earth by trying to use guilt like a two handed battle sword. Just b/c they believe in God does not mean they are without ego. Their preaching is more related to personal ego and a feeling of being above others than it is God. Otherwise they should happily go on using their personal code of morals and get right into heaven.

"Keep thy religion to thyself" - George Carlin

...I'm sorry about the above poster, he is truely a poor sample of atheists as a whole and his misinformed state on your religion should not be taken as a reason to deny the opinions of atheists as a whole. You're just talking in circles, there is no real point to your thread other than to restate what BrokeProphet has already stated. If the government regulations on our public airways are lessened due to this then likely the amount of nudity/violence/profanity on public television would likely increase;That is hardly an earth shattering pronouncement, just a rather bland and pointeless observation.
however, several studies have shown that exposure of youth to pornographic images and violence before a certain age can have a dramatic impact on their development, and several counter-measures should absolutely be added to protect more impressionable citizens before any restrictions are lessened.Cough up some sources, just some rather irrelevant and off-topic blather.

however, several studies have shown that exposure of youth to pornographic images and violence before a certain age can have a dramatic impact on their development, and several counter-measures should absolutely be added to protect more impressionable citizens before any restrictions are lessened.

Y'know, I dun heard that they have this fancy thing in new tee vees called a v-chip. It dun block out in-a-pro-pri-uht stuff, sos them youngins can't not see it. I reckon it'd be mighty easy to keep them youngins from seeing that god awful porn-O or that violence. I just reckon that if you cant not afford a tee vee with a v-chip, which pretty much all never tee vees have, you shouldn't be havin them chillums.

Envy also motivates xtians to tell others how to live. Tell me a sexually frustrated married holy roller who NEVER gets a blowjob does not envy a person about to fuck the brains out of two or three lipstick lesbians.


Most of the 'holy rollers' I've known haven't been sexually frustrated. Sure some Xtians hold that any kind of intercourse except vaginal is a sin but I'd guess the majority think that oral sex is fine between husband and wife.

Strangely enough the Puritans, whose very name has come to mean sexual repression were themselves more than liberal about sex ...within the bounds of matrimony of course. I recall reading some letters from Puritans which would probably still have trouble passing the censor.

Yes Xtians DO sometimes feel envious of the sexual freedoms of others. But they also see the dark side of such 'freedoms'.

I grew up before aids came in, when every girl seemed to be on the pill and used her body as small change. The parties I went to would have made Caligula blush.

Twas great at the time :)

But now? Looking back, seeing the damage, the broken lives...makes me think...

I grew up before aids came in, when every girl seemed to be on the pill and used her body as small change. The parties I went to would have made Caligula blush.

Twas great at the time :)

But now? Looking back, seeing the damage, the broken lives...makes me think...

I envy you. I have grown up in a world that has always had AIDS. Condoms are awesome and always have been a part of the new sexual rituals if you will for my generation.

The AIDS epidemic does bring up interesting points regarding the Xtian view points. Our current neo-con ultra jesus loving president is reluctant to support any type of Sex Ed that does not involve the mainstream Xtian policy of abstinence, believing teaching anything else such as contraceptives encourages evil, dirty, nasty, sinful, sex. This policy of abstinence only is very dangerous back here in the real world if you ask me.

That being said I think that the sexual repression that exists in America leads to MORE acts of degradation than a sexually liberated country such as France or Denmark. I believe it makes Americans more aggressive an ultimatly unhappy. Unhappy people turn to God more than happy people.

The wild parties you refer to are either part of or after the sexual revolution of the sixties. This is when secular culture began to REALLY take root in America. There was a revolution against the status quo of the heavy handed xtian churches of the time. It was coincidently a time of cultural growth, acceptance, and (cover your ears Xtians) TOLERANCE.

You're a fool, there is already more than enough nudity and profanity on television. :rolleyes:

It was coincidently a time of cultural growth, acceptance, and (cover your ears Xtians) TOLERANCE.

And lets not forget spirituality.