Atheists often like to portray themselves as victims and minorities; however, no matter what the census says they are quickly becomming the majority.

Do you actually "fundamentalist Christians" are stopping you from drinking yourself to death, being sodomized, or watching filth? :rolleyes:

Guess what! You can do all of those things -- and more -- with no legal consequences!

You can get porn at your nearest gas station or right here on the Internet, if Christians ran the world pornography wouldn't even exist!

You guys like to pretend you're the only atheists and everyone else is a "delusional", in fact you guys are everywhere and you're all the same. You're the ones who are brainwashed and the ones who are wrong.

Most of the people who write "Christian" on their census rarely attend church and probably don't even know why or what they believe. They're hardly real Christians.

When you take out all the liberal apostate churches and fake Christians, real bible-believing Christians are a very small minority. We're no threat to any of you.

You can drink, drug, and fornicate as much as you like and none of us are really going to be able to do anything to stop you. So why continue to push out your unbelief? Shouldn't you be getting as much sex and drugs as you can before you "go in the ground"?

If you think that the government is run by Christians you are sadly mistaken.

The government is controlled by satan!

http://earthhopenetwork.net/bush%20art/bush_satan_worship.jpg

Satan is the prince of this world (John 16:11) and this is reflected by how our society glorifies and promotes sin.

Right now you guys, the tools of satan, are winning. Your master owns all the media, all the politicians, and all the other filth of this world.

When was the last time you saw a Christian TV show on a mainstream network? Not in this decade. Do any of the big 2008 presidential candidates oppose abortion? No.

The world kills 126,000 babies every day through abortion, if Christians were in charge that wouldn't be so.

My point being, you atheists are not the victims or the minority. Right now you can do as you please. If you don't want to believe nobody is stopping you. In fact you idiots can publish books and movies to promote your unbelief.

Sooner or later you're going to have to answer for your sins though. It won't be a few Christians casting judgement on you, it'll be God because you rejected his free gift of salvation.

So enjoy your sin-filled life while it lasts, seriously nobody is stopping you.

Secondly, the United States is not a Christian nation.

Most of the founding fathers were deists and satanic Freemasons. They tried to manipulate the Bible to suit their political goals (eg. Jefferson Bible) rather than submitting to God's word. They built secularism into the first amendment!

Until Jesus comes back the United States is controlled by satan and most of it's residents are following it's satanic media straight to hell!

I can't make up my mind whether I think you're trolling or not.

I can't make up my mind whether I think you're trolling or not.

Well I'm not, although I could have written it a lot better.

Anyway, my point is that non-Christians like to pretend to be the minority, have no power, and play the victim when in fact they are firmly in control. Partly because a lot of Christians have been tricked into thinking they are hold all the power and need to tip-toe around non-Christians out of fear of hurting them.

If hell does exist then good, it'll be much more interesting than this pathetic, boring planet.

Although if God is this benevolent deity you Christians claim, then hell doesn't exist, that would be a violation of his benevolent principles.

God causes suffering by sending people to hell, so God is Satan. :)

Well I'm not, although I could have written it a lot better.

Not just in this post. Generally.

You guys like to pretend you're the only atheists and everyone else is a "delusional", in fact you guys are everywhere and you're all the same. You're the ones who are brainwashed and the ones who are wrong.

I simply ask theists to prove THEIR assertion of God. A perfectly logical thing to do. The burden of proof is on the one who makes the assertion (i.e. YOU). Since you have no proof you are delusional. You are infected with a meme complex.

I could be wrong. I could be. Could you be wrong? Who is brainwashed then?

You can drink, drug, and fornicate as much as you like and none of us are really going to be able to do anything to stop you. So why continue to push out your unbelief? Shouldn't you be getting as much sex and drugs as you can before you "go in the ground"?

In certian states sodomy is illegal. In most states prostitution is illegal. In certain parts of certain states (the bible belt) alcohol, strip clubs, gambling (except bingo), and pornography are illegal. I cannot watch an R rated movie on Network TV that has not been nuetered even though you "righteous" people have a V-chip (blinders).

If you think that the government is run by Christians you are sadly mistaken.

The government is controlled by satan!

http://www.theocracywatch.org/bush2.htm#Inauguration

Go there. Find out how much YOUR RELIGION has helped Bush (whom you call Satan) and tell me your religion isnt run by a bunch of douche bags. Bush has been in bed with your church for a looooooooooong time. The fact that you think he is Satan says something about the state of your religion.

This is an awesome site. I also suggest looking up any ONE of these to get a feel for how your religion is fucking this country.

Surgeon General Sees 4-Year Term as Compromised, July 11, 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/washington/11surgeon.html?_r=1&oref=slogin,

The administration, Dr. Carmona said, would not allow him to speak or issue reports about stem cells , emergency contraception, sex education, or prison, mental and global health issues.

Religion Running Roughshod Over Cancer Science, Truthdig, June 11, 2006
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/printer_061406HA.shtml

When Politics Defeats Science, Washington Post, March 1, 2006
http://www.theocracywatch.org/women_contraception_post_mar1_06.htm
-- The former FDA official asks: When did adult access to contraception become so controversial?

Scientists feel stifled by Bush administration, CNN.Com, February 21, 2005
http://www.theocracywatch.org/bush_antiscience_feb21_05_cnn.htm

Ideology and AIDS, New York Times, February 26, 2005
http://www.theocracywatch.org/bush_needles_times_feb26_05.htm

If Christians ran the country according to a literal interpretation of the Bible, this is just a sample of people who would be killed:

Everyone who works on Sunday
Homosexuals
Followers of other faiths
Teens who curse their parents
Anyone who says the Lord's name in vain

if Christians ran the world pornography wouldn't even exist!



If Christians ruled the world, they would be filthy rich and have $10-15 billion dollars.


OOOhhhhh WAIT! (http://www.vatican.va/)

Atheists often like to portray themselves as victims and minorities; however, no matter what the census says they are quickly becomming the majority.

Do you actually "fundamentalist Christians" are stopping you from drinking yourself to death, being sodomized, or watching filth? :rolleyes:

Guess what! You can do all of those things -- and more -- with no legal consequences!

You can get porn at your nearest gas station or right here on the Internet, if Christians ran the world pornography wouldn't even exist!

You guys like to pretend you're the only atheists and everyone else is a "delusional", in fact you guys are everywhere and you're all the same. You're the ones who are brainwashed and the ones who are wrong.

Most of the people who write "Christian" on their census rarely attend church and probably don't even know why or what they believe. They're hardly real Christians.

When you take out all the liberal apostate churches and fake Christians, real bible-believing Christians are a very small minority. We're no threat to any of you.

You can drink, drug, and fornicate as much as you like and none of us are really going to be able to do anything to stop you. So why continue to push out your unbelief? Shouldn't you be getting as much sex and drugs as you can before you "go in the ground"?

If you think that the government is run by Christians you are sadly mistaken.

The government is controlled by satan!

http://earthhopenetwork.net/bush%20art/bush_satan_worship.jpg

Satan is the prince of this world (John 16:11) and this is reflected by how our society glorifies and promotes sin.

Right now you guys, the tools of satan, are winning. Your master owns all the media, all the politicians, and all the other filth of this world.

When was the last time you saw a Christian TV show on a mainstream network? Not in this decade. Do any of the big 2008 presidential candidates oppose abortion? No.

The world kills 126,000 babies every day through abortion, if Christians were in charge that wouldn't be so.

My point being, you atheists are not the victims or the minority. Right now you can do as you please. If you don't want to believe nobody is stopping you. In fact you idiots can publish books and movies to promote your unbelief.

Sooner or later you're going to have to answer for your sins though. It won't be a few Christians casting judgement on you, it'll be God because you rejected his free gift of salvation.

So enjoy your sin-filled life while it lasts, seriously nobody is stopping you.

... both Christianity and Atheism suck... but you make a good point there...

... both Christianity and Atheism suck... but you make a good point there...

Why does atheism suck?

All an atheist says is If you make an assertion please back it up with some evidence. If you do not then your assertion is assumed false. That is the defining principle behind science. It is both logical and reasonable. Do you not like science or the scientific method? Essentialy that is what atheism is.

Why does atheism suck?

All an atheist says is If you make an assertion please back it up with some evidence. If you do not then your assertion is assumed false. That is the defining principle behind science. It is both logical and reasonable. Do you not like science or the scientific method? Essentialy that is what atheism is.

The problem is that everyone is reasonable, except when it comes to religion.

In 1200, religion was logical and reasonable. Since religion doesn't change, and the amount of human knowledge does, a conflict is thus created.

The problem is that everyone is reasonable, except when it comes to religion.

In 1200, religion was logical and reasonable. Since religion doesn't change, and the amount of human knowledge does, a conflict is thus created.

In 1200 if you did not agree with this "logic" and "reasonablity" you were could be murdered. The Inquistion was getting into full swing during this period you claim to be logical. "If she floats then she is not a witch like we thought" Not logical or reasonable.

In 1200 religion was a forced enterprise under pain of DEATH. That tells me that the people did not buy into this shit enough.

There is NOTHING logical or reasonable about religion and there never has been.

Example:
Q: What is Dark energy in the universe?
A: A dragon's fart.

Now if I somehow convinced everyone (under pain of death perhaps) in this modern age that is what dark energy (something we do not understand) was, would it make it any more logical?

NO it would not. Do you see the similarities? My assertion that Dark Energy is a Dragon's fart has no merit or evidence. God has no merit or evidence either, therefore both are not logical or reasonable.

If fundamentalist Christians ran the country, I'm sure you wouldn't be in control for long

"If she floats then she is not a witch like we thought" Not logical or reasonable.



Not logical to us, but perfectly logical to them.

You only think it isn't logical or reasonable because you know that witches don't exist.

Back then, witches did exist, and if those accused floated, they were witches, because women of the time couldn't swim.

Perfectly logical to them.

They had no proof that witches were real back then, either. Stupid assertions are timeless.

Proof isn't real anyways.

^Troll.

30-35% of Americans are evangelicals

http://www.wheaton.edu/isae/defining_evangelicalism.html

Atheists 3-9% (a pretty liberal estimate if you look at other stats)

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html

Yeah, we're the majority. Just because secularists (which are completely different from atheists) are in power doesn't mean atheists can't continue to do what they do.

As soon as you can find a non-biblical explanation for why a woman shouldn't have a right to privacy, for why homosexuals don't deserve human treatment, I'll change my ways. But until then I'll support the secularists that run the government (through their laughable manipulation of the religious right) because a) that's the way it's always been done, b) history has shown that both religion and politics flourish when separate, and c) a tolerant democracy is always better than a paleo-fascist theocracy that most evangelicals (a third of the population) would support.

As a citizen of Utah, the most evangelical state in the most evangelical country, I can safely say that evangelicals do indeed push their beliefs, their morals, and their laws upon secularists, despite what you'd like to believe.

As soon as you can find a non-biblical explanation for why a woman shouldn't have a right to privacy, for why homosexuals don't deserve human treatment, I'll change my ways.

So, basicly... You're a moron?

So, basicly... You're a moron?

Yep, that's exactly what I meant to say, thanks for the correction.

Not logical to us, but perfectly logical to them.

You only think it isn't logical or reasonable because you know that witches don't exist.

Back then, witches did exist, and if those accused floated, they were witches, because women of the time couldn't swim.

Perfectly logical to them.

No. "Logic" is not subjective. It's not something you just "decide" is logical. Things aren't logical just to certain people.

They believed it to be logical, but they were wrong. That is quite different.

They used faulty logic, or, depending on how you want to look at it, they reasoned from incorrect assumptions.

Either way, they were wrong, just as much as someone who says 2+2=5.

Just because someone thinks 2+2=5 doesn't mean it's logical to him.

Witches didn't exist back then. They assumed they did illogically, which is why, irrelevant of their own confidence in their logic, they were still wrong, and illogical. Ok?

Christ, mate.

No. "Logic" is not subjective. It's not something you just "decide" is logical. Things aren't logical just to certain people.

They believed it to be logical, but they were wrong. That is quite different.

They used faulty logic, or, depending on how you want to look at it, they reasoned from incorrect assumptions.

Either way, they were wrong, just as much as someone who says 2+2=5.

Just because someone thinks 2+2=5 doesn't mean it's logical to him.

Witches didn't exist back then. They assumed they did illogically, which is why, irrelevant of their own confidence in their logic, they were still wrong, and illogical. Ok?

Christ, mate.

Centuries from now mankind will look upon its history and see that everyone was far less logical than the current generation. The inquisitors believed in their superior logic as much as we do today.

I hope that one day a man descends from the sky, in flashes of bright light with doves flying all about.

And all the silly Christians run outside to meet their maker. Jumping in joy for the second coming.

But then when the man lands he tells everyone that he is here only to collect the 20 members of some obscure amazonian religion, and the rest of us are doomed.

Then again, all the dumbass christians would write it off as being a 'test of faith' as they like to call those things that don't line up with their beliefs.

Secondly, the United States is not a Christian nation.

Most of the founding fathers were deists and satanic Freemasons. They tried to manipulate the Bible to suit their political goals (eg. Jefferson Bible) rather than submitting to God's word. They built secularism into the first amendment!

Until Jesus comes back the United States is controlled by satan and most of it's residents are following it's satanic media straight to hell!

Well, you are one for three.

The US is not officially a theocracy--thank God. Even though POTUS is a deluded egomaniac who thinks his ignorant ideas come directly from God.

Freemasons are not satanic.

Satan is a myth, created by the priesthood to instill fear and hence obedience in the laity.

Satan is a myth, created by the priesthood to instill fear and hence obedience in the laity.

I thought that was hell and Satan was the one they could blame it on if they sin.

Christanity is a bunch of bullshit, as with all religion. We all know (well at least the people who aren't complete fucking idiots) that people don't go to hell if they smoke a joint or have sex for example. Why should I have to live my according to what some idiots wrote or say?

I can't even begin to explain how retarded christanity is.

You don't believe in the magical zombie Jew? Well you're gonna get tortured for all eternity!!!

I take this so very seriously.