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2007-11-10, 00:36
If God is the creator, who created God?

Otsego_Amigo
2007-11-10, 03:32
ummmmmmmm ... ummm ... (trying to think of a witty answer that's not trite) ... ummm..... ummmm... fuck it

God has no beginning or end. God exists outside/above time. God has existed since the beginning of time.

Obbe
2007-11-10, 03:55
Yes, God is without time. There was no 'creation', God has always been. God is, all is.

T-BagBikerStar
2007-11-10, 06:58
Now this is the same question that is commonly posted to atheists, that is to them, "How was the universe created, how does something come from apparent nothingness?" From a scientific standpoint theists seem to believe that we have no solid theory to deal with this. This is wrong in several ways however.

We are observers who in every way are stuck inside of our universe. We cannot in any way probe outside of its dimensions which include time as well. How are we ever supposed to formulate a theory on such a subject without any ability to probe outside of it? The big bang theory is an excellent attempt with solid backing to trace back the events of this universe as far as possible, but for us to hypothesize on its origins is simple impossible. In no way however, does this suggest that we must throw away all the observable data we have of this universe and accept some procured divine being. In a place where space and time are without meaning there are any number of possible explanations that do not involve divinity as to how everything we understand could have come into being. So we have not proven anything yet on the nature of the universe, yet we still have evidence that has thouroughly disproven every major religion in existance on this planet.

joecaveman
2007-11-10, 08:29
How does anything exist?

A theist will ask "why?"

An atheist will ask "what?"

THAT is the fundamental difference.

BrokeProphet
2007-11-10, 20:55
How does anything exist?

A theist will ask "why?"

An atheist will ask "what?"

THAT is the fundamental difference.

Fail.

The fundamental difference is a theist accepts an answer to your question of existence without ........... ahem............ ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT.

They may ask "why" and then INVENT an answer for it.

An atheists uses that big grey bowl of chemical soup that is a brain to find answers.

Obbe
2007-11-10, 21:17
... without ........... ahem............ ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT.

God is obvious.

i poop in your cereal
2007-11-10, 21:46
God is obvious.

Your trolling is obvious.

Obbe
2007-11-10, 22:28
Your trolling is obvious.

This insinuation does not negate Gods obviousness.

BrokeProphet
2007-11-10, 22:41
This insinuation does not negate Gods obviousness.

His insinuation is a statement of fact first and foremost. Secondly, tell the obviousness that is god. I suggest first you look up and DEFINE obviousness then tell me how obvious god is.

---Beany---
2007-11-10, 22:46
Self creating.
Each moment he asks himself "what shall i be next?"

Obbe
2007-11-10, 22:46
His insinuation is a statement of fact first and foremost.

How?

Secondly, tell the obviousness that is god. I suggest first you look up and DEFINE obviousness then tell me how obvious god is.

From your perspective, it is obvious that you are. You would be, as I am, absolutely certain of 'being'. 'Being' is God.

BrokeProphet
2007-11-10, 22:56
How?.

B/C you say shit like this...

From your perspective, it is obvious that you are. You would be, as I am, absolutely certain of 'being'. 'Being' is God.

Which is the equivalent of a fortune cookie...

Next I would like to know my lucky numbers and my most compatible astrological sign.

Dance monkey.

Obbe
2007-11-10, 23:00
B/C you say shit like this...

Thats right. Just toss some more insults in, ignore that I just answered why God is obvious.

:)

BrokeProphet
2007-11-10, 23:06
Thats right. Just toss some more insults in, ignore that I just answered why God is obvious.

:)

Before you get your first erection thinking you answered something let me point out that you answered shit, Obbe. How is being, God? You answered shit becaused you raised more questions. You cannot raise another question and answer any fucking thing. LEARN THE RULES.

Obbe
2007-11-10, 23:23
You answered shit becaused you raised more questions.

I was not aware of that. It would help me if you asked them, rather then be a complete dick.

I thought that answer was easily understandable.

BrokeProphet
2007-11-10, 23:50
I was not aware of that. It would help me if you asked them, rather then be a complete dick.

I thought that answer was easily understandable.

I cannot help but to be a dick when you pat yourself on the back for the very definition of circular logic. FACT......Your "answer" simply raises another question:

How is "being" God?

jackketch
2007-11-11, 01:23
We create God in our own image everday anew.

Lacedwithdelight
2007-11-11, 03:01
God created porn, therefore porn = god.

Obbe
2007-11-11, 03:28
How is "being" God?

Many ways.

If using the method of defining an expereince an illusion by comparing it to what you know is true, then the only true reality is your own existence. Or simply, 'being'. If being all, and God is all ... then God is being.

We can also assume that our experiences are real. That the things we expereince, other people and objects, have perspectives of their own. Assuming they are real, we can understand that they too cannot know anything other then 'I AM', which is recognition of 'being'. That is the absolute truth. How about things which cannot know anything? How about a rock? Well ... what is it's state? Simply being ... 'awareness of nothing'. Again, we find 'being' is all. God is all. Being is God.

Lets make a great assumption, and assume all is real. All, as in every single possibility, every position of all imaginable dimensions. Infinity. If all exists, then as with the above example, all needs 'being' to do so. All possibilities are contained within the absolute truth. (http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php)

In other words ... simply being, awareness of nothing, nirvana, 'the void', the 'tenth' and 'zero' dimensions, all of which are referring to the same thing ... is God.

I cannot help but to be a dick

Yes, you actually can. I try to avoid being a dick to you, despite how many reasons and opportunities you give me to be one.