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Ryangeneral
2007-12-10, 03:41
I have a lot of aluminum powder, 60 grams of ammonium nitrate, and some gunpowder. Can anyone direct me to the right ratio (weight or volume) that would produce the best confined explosion. Not talking about a set off in my backyard type of deal, like from within a tree. I know aluminum helps confined explosions.

nuclearrabbit
2007-12-10, 03:57
ANAl

rifter
2007-12-10, 04:04
Just use the gunpowder straight. You can combine the AN and Al to make ANAl (*snicker*), and set it off with a shot from a powerful rifle. I have no personal experience with it, but I hear AN:Al 85%:15% works well (somebody confirm that for me). Or if you can make a primary, use that. If you can make a primary, you could also try detonating your smokeless powder.

Master Z
2007-12-10, 04:29
I assume you mean modern gun powder, not black powder (the stuff you can make yourself, or use in old-fashioned rifles).

Al will help the detonation of some compounds, but it depends on the oxygen balance and gets complicated quickly. ANAl is hard to det, I've never used it since it was kind of a waste of good Al.

Probably your best bet is to try with the gun powder. It will self det under high confinement with ignition.

You can do other fun stuff with the AN, but it is generaly very hard to det.

-Z

asilentbob
2007-12-10, 06:40
60g AN isn't enough for much of anything.

ANAL will hurt you. You might like it though.

A little over 60g of it wont do much. And trees don't really have ass holes... so... well... it might crack the tree a bit... unless its like a really skinny ass one... or really dead and decayed/weak. Basicly it wont be spectacular at all.

You would get a more enjoyable experience by using the AN to fertillize pot...

Bazzle
2007-12-11, 07:32
^I think its a good thing he only has a small amount of AN.

Burying 5 kg of the ANAl and trying to pop it off with AP or some grotesque primary, is just plain fucking stupid for someone who appears not to have a grasp of oxidizers, or stoich. Hell let us rejoice he is either incapable or has the common sense not to try for too big a bite.

And if you decide to scrap it all and just grow pot...don't use ANAl..aluminum does weird stuff to soil.

Orange_Crusader
2007-12-11, 10:19
ANAL will hurt you. You might like it though.


Bahahaha

But yeah, that's a small amount of AN, really. If you wanna do something with it, invest in a little more to make it useful. ANAl is possible but meh results and as said, very hard to get near a complete det.

I didn't recall that BP/smokeless powder could det, don't think it can at all though, but in case.. anyone know under what conditions, offhand? :\

Past that, a bit Al with the smokeless will speed it up a little, but hard to get the oxygen balance without a source in there. Again, a few more chems and you could do a decent amount of stuff, but what you've got is a pretty eclectic mix of stuff not really made to go together usually.

Flamethrowa
2007-12-11, 20:33
BP will not det.

Smokeless powder, depending on the type, may be either NC or NC/NG (I think). Once you solved the density problem, you would have to either add more NG (a lot more) or some other explosive or use a vicious primary/booster combination or something.

Not practical.

Ryangeneral
2007-12-11, 20:55
Thanks for the info guys, I am just going to try a straight gunpowder one. It is modern gunpoder, not homemade crap. Im trying this friday, ill come back to update on the results after that.

justglad2bhere
2007-12-11, 22:01
Smokeless power will definitely detonate is sufficiently confined. Depending on what you use to confine it, you may have a storm of shrapnel.

Dream of the iris
2007-12-11, 22:30
60g AN isn't enough for much of anything.

ANAL will hurt you. You might like it though.

A little over 60g of it wont do much. And trees don't really have ass holes... so... well... it might crack the tree a bit... unless its like a really skinny ass one... or really dead and decayed/weak. Basicly it wont be spectacular at all.

You would get a more enjoyable experience by using the AN to fertillize pot...

I've had some good experiences using smaller amounts of AN before. As long as you have NG to mix it with :D

rifter
2007-12-12, 02:47
On the topic of detonating smokeless powder: Axt made this interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qHFL62Wph8

He uses only a #8 cap, no booster... #8 is standardised to be equivalent to 2 grams of mercury fulminate (or so I read somewhere ages ago).

anarchya22
2007-12-13, 03:50
i bought 5 pounds of aluminum and the fbi came to my house

delusional_reality
2007-12-14, 17:37
i bought 5 pounds of aluminum and the fbi came to my house

That sucks man!
where did you buy it from? and I presume it was something like powdered indian black Aluminium?

I will never have that problem though...My country doesn't have a FBI.

hazode
2007-12-18, 07:52
That sucks man!
where did you buy it from? and I presume it was something like powdered indian black Aluminium?

I will never have that problem though...My country doesn't have a FBI.

Hmmm, what country are you from.

wolfy_9005
2007-12-20, 09:32
ANAL will hurt you. You might like it though.


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