...please tell how Ezekiel prophesied the Holocaust more than 2 millenniums before it occurred.

Of course though, there will be replies like, "You're reading into it."

Well, no I'm not...he spoke of the exact occurrences of the Israeli plight...he spoke of the deaths in transportation, the labor camps, the starvations, the incinerations, the gassings, the executions, the hidings, the fleeing to other nations, and a portion of the Israelites surviving to reconcile with Yodhehwawheh and returning to Israel.

Obviously though, it must just be a coincidence! :rolleyes:

FYI: God does not support Nazis; Israel turned its back on God and lost the Armor that protects the twelve sons from those who hate Truth. They chose to live of their own power and died because it wasn't enough to save them.

...please tell how Ezekiel prophesied the Holocaust more than 2 millenniums before it occurred.

Of course though, there will be replies like, "You're reading into it."

Well, no I'm not...he spoke of the exact occurrences of the Israeli plight...he spoke of the deaths in transportation, the labor camps, the starvations, the incinerations, the gassings, the executions, the hidings, the fleeing to other nations, and a portion of the Israelites surviving to reconcile with Yodhehwawheh and returning to Israel.

Obviously though, it must just be a coincidence! :rolleyes:

FYI: God does not support Nazis; Israel turned its back on God and lost the Armor that protects the twelve sons from those who hate Truth. They chose to live of their own power and died because it wasn't enough to save them.
Post the passages that supposedly tell us this please.

FYI: God does not support Nazis;
Yeh, and you know exactly what "god" supports and does not support you stupid bitch. :rolleyes:

Yeh, and you know exactly what "god" supports and does not support you stupid bitch. :rolleyes:

Exactly.

This is what allows people to concoct such foolish statments. People can say: 'Well, God/Allah supports this or that' because the bible\qur'an are open to interpretation!

Because Jews have always been hated and he knew that eventually some guy would do the right thing and try to exterminate them.

Maybe Hitler read that passage and thought 'Heeeeey!!!"

Is this when you become a bully, mocking the faithless, instead of trying to understand them? You could just say you disagree with us atheists, but instead you decide attack us... that must mean you have fear, right?

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Like the others have said, post the exact passages please. Before you do, please take note of where this supposed "prophesy" says the "Holocaust" will take place. Like for example, if it says it will take place in Jerusalem or Judea, and not in Nazi Germany thousands of miles away.

Maybe Hitler read that passage and thought 'Heeeeey!!!"

Possibility, If something is said to happen... then someone can hear this and make it happen.
Just like a demand or request to go get some water, and then it happens by said person.

There is no divine way yet that something out of this world has happened yet for us to know about, undoubtful that it wasn't done by sure will of a human asshole like hitler.

FYI: God does not support Nazis; Israel turned its back on God and lost the Armor that protects the twelve sons from those who hate Truth. They chose to live of their own power and died because it wasn't enough to save them.

So they deserved the Holocaust? FUCK YOU! Only a maniacal and perverted God would allow the Holocaust.

Only a maniacal and perverted God would allow the Holocaust.

The Holocaust was God's will, as it is God's will for us to have free will.

And don't forget all the good that came of it, notably the establishment of the Jewish state, which was a direct result.

And don't just blame Hitler. The Holocaoust could not have occured w/out the collusion of the American, Swiss, and British goverments, as well as the Vatican.

I'm not sure what passage you're speaking of (gee, it would make sense if someone with such extraordinary claims would atleast post this almighty passage for us blind people) but it likely is just some reference to the Egyptian situation.

And don't forget all the good that came of it, notably the establishment of the Jewish state, which was a direct result.

Yes, because taking land from Palestinians and burning down their villages while they are inside them sure is ethical.

So they deserved the Holocaust? FUCK YOU! Only a maniacal and perverted God would allow the Holocaust.
If you believe the bullshit oozing from the bible then flooding the entire earth and killing everyone and everything except a couple of all the animals and some old drunk guy was done by god. If you ask me that would have been a bit worse than the holocaust.

http://www.hope.edu/bandstra/RTOT/CH12/CH12_TC.HTM

Well, the book of Ezekiel is about the invasion of Judea and the Babylonian captivity. So what you are implying is that the Nazi's Holocaust is a repeat of the Babylonian captivity. The two really don't compare that well.

Is this when you become a bully, mocking the faithless, instead of trying to understand them? You could just say you disagree with us atheists, but instead you decide attack us... that must mean you have fear, right?

Hmm, that's funny. Because I'm being attacked by atheists in the "Satanism, the answer to all the questions." thread for practicing magic (or was at least, it doesn't seem anything more than a healthy debate now). Does that mean they have something to fear? Does that mean they know magic exists and are afraid of it? I don't think so, seems to me like they don't think magic exists because they haven't experienced magic enough, if at all, and seem to think they are right and everyone else is "pretty fucking pathetic" for believing anything else.

Thank you! I don't believe he necessarily has something to fear. I'm repeating the same line of bullshit he told me in another thread; using his own argument (i.e. that I had something to fear because I was finding faults in his argument and that I was only protecting my pride because I didn't just disagree with him) against him.

So yes, it really is funny!

If you believe the bullshit oozing from the bible then flooding the entire earth and killing everyone and everything except a couple of all the animals and some old drunk guy was done by god. If you ask me that would have been a bit worse than the holocaust.

Of course!!! Come on now Molosh my friend, it is completely possible for a single man to single handedly design and build a watertight boat with the sheer size to contain two of every single animal. I mean, it really isn't hard to believe that this one man can find, gather, and control every single animal. It isn't like food and clean water for each of these animals would have been a problem either. Assuming how much an elephant eats (and shits) there would defiantly be room for 40 days worth of supplies!

And because Noah had the brilliant for-thought to get two of each animal, it's a pretty good coincidence that each animal found its suitor a perfect match to reproduction. /sarcasm

Now, look at everything I just said and ask yourself: does the bible really make that much sense?

Of course!!! Come on now Molosh my friend, it is completely possible for a single man to single handedly design and build a watertight boat with the sheer size to contain two of every single animal. I mean, it really isn't hard to believe that this one man can find, gather, and control every single animal. It isn't like food and clean water for each of these animals would have been a problem either. Assuming how much an elephant eats (and shits) there would defiantly be room for 40 days worth of supplies!

And because Noah had the brilliant for-thought to get two of each animal, it's a pretty good coincidence that each animal found its suitor a perfect match to reproduction. /sarcasm

Now, look at everything I just said and ask yourself: does the bible really make that much sense?
Hang on, let me put on my sheep suit.

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Why, yes, it does. :)

For those who want the precise passages: THE ENTIRE BOOK OF EZEKIEL.

As to the Babylonian prophecy; most of the Jews captured by Babylon/Persia/Assyria throughout the milleniums were not tortured to death, but rather were used as slaves - dying of exhaustion. The Holocaust is the only instance in Jewish history where extermination was the sole goal of the perpetrators, and being such, the only event that matches the outcomes prophesied by Ezekiel. Israel was torn apart for some hundred odd years, with the separation ending after the fulfillment of the death by transportation, incineration, suffocation, starvation - and the fulfillment of labor camps - and the fulfillment of living in hidden places for fear of Wrath.

And sure, you can read into it thinking the Jews 'deserved' the Holocaust, but that's not what I nor the Bible says on the matter. They turned their back on God and chose not to wear the Armor...the Armor is all that protects Israel (or any other, for that matter); today, by wearing the Armor, they are backed by the US military and NATO. Pretty much thus: If you fuck with the Armor, you get fucked. If you abandon the Armor, you can get fucked. You do not get the full benefits of Faith if you do not keep Faith.

The Jews have ALWAYS had enemies...but they come out on top every single time unless they have turned their back to the Armor. This has been shown countless times throughout History. Israel has NEVER been defeated in a time of keeping the Law.

For those who want the precise passages: THE ENTIRE BOOK OF EZEKIEL.

As to the Babylonian prophecy; most of the Jews captured by Babylon/Persia/Assyria throughout the milleniums were not tortured to death, but rather were used as slaves - dying of exhaustion. The Holocaust is the only instance in Jewish history where extermination was the sole goal of the perpetrators, and being such, the only event that matches the outcomes prophesied by Ezekiel. Israel was torn apart for some hundred odd years, with the separation ending after the fulfillment of the death by transportation, incineration, suffocation, starvation - and the fulfillment of labor camps - and the fulfillment of living in hidden places for fear of Wrath.

And sure, you can read into it thinking the Jews 'deserved' the Holocaust, but that's not what I nor the Bible says on the matter. They turned their back on God and chose not to wear the Armor...the Armor is all that protects Israel (or any other, for that matter); today, by wearing the Armor, they are backed by the US military and NATO. Pretty much thus: If you fuck with the Armor, you get fucked. If you abandon the Armor, you can get fucked. You do not get the full benefits of Faith if you do not keep Faith.

The Jews have ALWAYS had enemies...but they come out on top every single time unless they have turned their back to the Armor. This has been shown countless times throughout History. Israel has NEVER been defeated in a time of keeping the Law.
You're fucking pathetic. And a complete idiot if you actually believe any of the nonsense you're spouting.

You're fucking pathetic. And a complete idiot if you actually believe any of the nonsense you're spouting.

Well then, I'm a complete idiot. Mind providing a refutation/critique/point, or is an ad-hominem the furthest you can go? If so, you may wish to attempt solidifying your stance a bit better.

For those who want the precise passages: THE ENTIRE BOOK OF EZEKIEL.

As to the Babylonian prophecy; most of the Jews captured by Babylon/Persia/Assyria throughout the milleniums were not tortured to death, but rather were used as slaves - dying of exhaustion. The Holocaust is the only instance in Jewish history where extermination was the sole goal of the perpetrators, and being such, the only event that matches the outcomes prophesied by Ezekiel. Israel was torn apart for some hundred odd years, with the separation ending after the fulfillment of the death by transportation, incineration, suffocation, starvation - and the fulfillment of labor camps - and the fulfillment of living in hidden places for fear of Wrath.


Saying "the whole book" is not citing anything at all. Only a specific part deals with the God's judgment against the Jews (i.e. the horrors you claim prophesied the Holocaust). You would know this if you had read it, so either you haven't read it or you did and are trying to be as vague as possible.

Either cite the specific passage you claim mentions the gassing, the labor camps, et cetera or admit that you cannot.

The fact is, the judgment Ezekiel speaks of was to fall on the Jews in a specific place. Nowhere close to Nazi Germany:

"5 Thus says the Lord GOD, 'This is Jerusalem; I have set her at the center of the nations, with lands around her. 6'But she has rebelled against My ordinances more wickedly than the nations and against My statutes more than the lands which surround her; for they have rejected My ordinances and have not walked in My statutes.'
7"Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Because you have more turmoil than the nations which surround you and have not walked in My statutes, nor observed My ordinances, nor observed the ordinances of the nations which surround you,'
8therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Behold, I, even I, am against you, and I will execute judgments among you in the sight of the nations."


Ezekiel 5:5-8.

This is confirmed in the book of Jeremiah as well.

Nigga you can find better correlations between the Old and New Testaments than that!!

Google "messianic prophecies" and look how many of them Christians have matched up to Jesus.

or read the book of isiah.

Either cite the specific passage you claim mentions the gassing, the labor camps, et cetera or admit that you cannot.


Bump.

It is postdiction, not prediction.

Nostradamus also predicted Hitler and came MUCH closer (less bullshit) than the bible did. Some believe nearly naming Hitler with the phrase "coming of Hister" or something like that.

It is also postdiction. For every prophecy "fulfilled" by Nostradamus and the Bible there exists hundreds that were not.

Ever read a horoscope? Not just yours but anyone's? They all are so generalized that they WILL apply to some facet of your day, even if you do NOT believe in them. Imagine how much more potent the horoscope is if you DO believe in it! It is also postdiction, not prediction and is more self fufilling than genuine prophecy.

Yes, I just compared your Bible to shitty newspaper horoscopes, and completely stand by that comparision.

This is of course all moot, b/c you have YET to provide us with one passage indicating that even a POSTDICTION took place, let alone a PREDICTION. If you would like I can begin to post passages from the book of Ezekiel that have no correlation with the holocaust. One by one until you decide to...

Put up........or shut the fuck up.

Another point to make is that if the bible is 'not bullshit' (i.e. correct) because what it says is true - supposedly when it predicted the Holocaust -, then would Hexadecimal accept that it is "bullshit" if what it says is wrong?

"Hazor will become a haunt of jackals,
A desolation forever;
No one will live there,
Nor will a son of man reside in it."

-- Jeremiah 49:33

People have lived in Hazor since then, and still do.

You could predict pretty much anything and it would eventually come true.

It would have been impressive if he could've predicted nazism, though.

Ah, the book of ezekiel, where the aliens decend in a flying sauser to tell this jewish priest all hell will break loose. you have more in common with scientologists than you let on.

Those first chapters are open to creative misinterpretation, so forgive me if I don't take any prophacy written by ezekiel seriously.