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shitty wok
2008-01-24, 01:20
Westboro Baptist Cunts at it again. Someone should pelt these assholes with rocks. Tolerance of intolerance is intolerant. Period. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324966,00.html

---Beany---
2008-01-24, 01:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWAawKFMYfs

You may like the end part of this.

Edit: Also, due to their increasing notoriety, a drive by or something is bound to be in the works.
They're asking for it.

Thought Riot
2008-01-24, 02:18
Westboro Baptist Cunts at it again. Someone should pelt these assholes with rocks. Tolerance of intolerance is intolerant. Period. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324966,00.html

ya, let's turn from assholes and into martyrs.

shitty wok
2008-01-24, 02:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWAawKFMYfs

You may like the end part of this.

Edit: Also, due to their increasing notoriety, a drive by or something is bound to be in the works.
They're asking for it.

LOL! Thanks, that was a refreshing glass of ownage juice :p

Obbe
2008-01-24, 03:00
They're mindless.

AngryFemme
2008-01-24, 03:08
Despicable.

kurdt318
2008-01-24, 03:36
“God hates fags,” she said. “The wrath of God has been revealed before the eyes of this nation with the death of Heath Ledger. … This nation worships the dead almost as much as they worship their filthy sex acts. America is doomed.”

Wow. Who would have thought God would pick Heath Ledger to communicate the message that He hates fags.

firekitty751
2008-01-24, 05:40
At first I assumed you were also being intolerant.

Now I'm writing a lovely email to them.

ArmsMerchant
2008-01-28, 19:47
The woman is very sick and twisted.

I can picture God shaking his head, thinking "What the fuck happened to 'Love thy neighbor' ?"

(The above is a figure of speech, BTW--God is not an entity, but a field of sentient energy.)

youth in asia
2008-01-28, 19:54
Westboro Baptist Cunts at it again. Someone should pelt these assholes with rocks. Tolerance of intolerance is intolerant. Period. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324966,00.html

And what, good sir, do you presume we do about it? Have them rounded up in unmarked vans and tortured? Free speech is free speech.

---Beany---
2008-01-28, 19:56
Have they picketed his funeral yet?
Has his funeral happened yet?
I tried to find out.

BrokeProphet
2008-01-28, 22:09
I don't see what is so shocking. Christians practicing what is taught in the bible.

Where as I don't agree with these cunts, at all, I do commend them for practicing what they preach, unlike most other Christians, who make little sense when they say "The bible is the word of God, but we don't think we should kill homos like he said, even though we also think we should obey him"

I wish more Christians less hypocritical, and were like the Westboro church and stayed true to the bible.....then just about everybody would start seeing the Christian mind the way I do....bat shit crazy.

Prometheum
2008-01-28, 23:06
I don't see what is so shocking. Christians practicing what is taught in the bible.

Where as I don't agree with these cunts, at all, I do commend them for practicing what they preach, unlike most other Christians, who make little sense when they say "The bible is the word of God, but we don't think we should kill homos like he said, even though we also think we should obey him"

I wish more Christians less hypocritical, and were like the Westboro church and stayed true to the bible.....then just about everybody would start seeing the Christian mind the way I do....bat shit crazy.

This.

They have the same free speech as the rest of us. They should be allowed to say and protest whatever they want.

What they are saying is stupid and hateful, and shouldn't be said. the fact that they're trying to remove the freedom of action of others is a threat to all freedom.

SydMorrison
2008-01-29, 16:24
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inuteroteen
2008-01-31, 01:57
And what, good sir, do you presume we do about it? Have them rounded up in unmarked vans and tortured? Free speech is free speech.

Declare them as enemy combatants, maybe ship them off to Egypt or Saudi Arabia, and let them do what they will.

Anyways, their protests pose a "clear and present danger" and could easily be stifled or moved out of site.

Hexadecimal
2008-01-31, 02:03
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
"If there is a resentment between you and your brother, find an amend before coming to God for forgiveness."
"Love thy neighbor as yourself."
"For whosoever shows mercy so shall he also receive Mercy."
"He who has wrath towards his brother has already murdered with his heart."

godfather89
2008-01-31, 02:24
These Baptist, Evangelical, Fundamentalist are the worst people to deal with, I say lets gather a crap load of open-minded religious and freethinker groups and protest at there establishment for being Hypocrites, they stand for love and yet hate people... People will use whatever means to show there hatred for people even if it comes to imposing there views on others.

I find it disrespectful and sickening that these picketers are picketing at a funeral. Sickening and crazed midwest folk, who take the bible literally!

Hexadecimal
2008-01-31, 03:40
What's wrong with taking the Bible literally?

Homosexuality is an abomination. It's a sin that has been paid for. I've sinned so I'm not to carry out the punishment for others' sins. I'm to love my neighbor as my self. I'm also to love my enemy as myself. And I'm not to judge others.

I masturbate, that also is an abomination. I also smoke cigarettes, which also is an abomination. I also have a tattoo. I have a whole host of sins in my life because I'm not perfect in my walk with God. If I was, people would be worshiping me as God's son, not Christ.

These individuals hate homosexuals because their own walk with God falters. It has nothing to do with their interpretation of a book. They fear looking at their own transgressions and working upon their own faults, so they seek to persecute others.

"And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, ignoring the beam in your own?"

What a waste! To spend one's time trying to destroy another over a single sin, ignoring the multitude of sins present in one's self!

godfather89
2008-01-31, 04:13
Is God closed-minded? I dont think so, God is all-encompassing so therefore, we should be to. To that we need to be open-minded, not to the point where our brain falls out but enough to disable the very cyclical thinking present in society, to do that you cant take anything word for word especially religious text. They mean more and deserve contemplation.

If two people of the same sex love each other as much as two people of the opposite sex, who am I to say "To bad your both guys/girls otherwise I would wed you." Sorry God goes above just some I hate Fags mentality setup by fundamentalist who are to afraid to explore even there own sexuality.

God is Love... Lust is Lust I dont care if its with one of the opposite sex, same sex or another species (well, assuming you don't love your dog in the same way you'd love a person). But to intimately love and lust after another animal is gross and thats wrong, but to love of the same species is not my problem.

This mentality propagated by the Christianity saying I am Sinful by Nature and Should be ashamed doesn't help much either. You know what the real problem is... Were ignorant of what could make us perfect. For the one who is perfect does not sin. It takes work to be perfect, as we see.

AngryFemme
2008-01-31, 04:38
You know what the reall problem is... Were ignorant of what could make us perfect. For the one who is perfect does not sin. It takes work to be perfect, as we see.

I wouldn't call it ignorance. Where's the usefulness in trying to strive for such an impossible state? Our real strength lies in being able to ascertain the futility of that endeavor. Coming to terms with the fact that there's a cap to our *perfection potential* could very well be the source for all that self-loathing we tote around with us.

I'm perfectly okay with being imperfect. :) As long as I consistently make an effort to improve myself, then I've done all I can humanly manage.

Iehovah
2008-01-31, 04:44
Has anyone picketted the picketers yet? I think it would be hilarious if someone got a bunch of friends together and showed up at one of their hatefests with signs like "God hates Westboro Church" and "Westboro faggots are going to Hell".

See how fast they start whining about free speech.

Hexadecimal
2008-01-31, 19:12
Is God closed-minded? I dont think so, God is all-encompassing so therefore, we should be to. To that we need to be open-minded, not to the point where our brain falls out but enough to disable the very cyclical thinking present in society, to do that you cant take anything word for word especially religious text. They mean more and deserve contemplation.

If two people of the same sex love each other as much as two people of the opposite sex, who am I to say "To bad your both guys/girls otherwise I would wed you." Sorry God goes above just some I hate Fags mentality setup by fundamentalist who are to afraid to explore even there own sexuality.

God is Love... Lust is Lust I dont care if its with one of the opposite sex, same sex or another species (well, assuming you don't love your dog in the same way you'd love a person). But to intimately love and lust after another animal is gross and thats wrong, but to love of the same species is not my problem.

This mentality propagated by the Christianity saying I am Sinful by Nature and Should be ashamed doesn't help much either. You know what the real problem is... Were ignorant of what could make us perfect. For the one who is perfect does not sin. It takes work to be perfect, as we see.

I'm sorry godfather, but I find disagreement here. I AM indeed sinful by nature, but where does shame come into knowledge of imperfection? Knowledge of imperfection only breeds shame when one seeks to be perfect; a trait reserved for God, and God alone. I seek progression in Faith, for I know perfection is beyond my ability.

I serve a God of Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness. He is One that knows my whole nature even better than myself. Why am I to loathe and be ashamed of myself for my imperfection? I am not God; I will make mistakes and I will live with them. This is nothing to be ashamed of.

"A fool is he who says to his Creator, 'What evil have you made in me?'"

Shame and guilt prevent me from growing in Faith. Knowledge of my flaws brings me no shame, but rather, jubilation, as I now know what I am working towards improving. Knowledge of my own flaws also allows me to have a clear perspective as to the workings of God in my life: seeing wounds of the heart close, and new actions proceeding forth from this Healing, only solidifies my faith and brings further joy into my life.

godfather89
2008-02-01, 16:57
I'm sorry godfather, but I find disagreement here. I AM indeed sinful by nature, but where does shame come into knowledge of imperfection? Knowledge of imperfection only breeds shame when one seeks to be perfect; a trait reserved for God, and God alone. I seek progression in Faith, for I know perfection is beyond my ability.

Its a hallmark of Christianity especially, fundamentalist Christians to tell you by your nature you are sinful. However, as part of Gnostic myth, you were part of perfection, wholeness and goodness before falling into a corruptible body.

The Gnostic story is how we are trying to get back to the Perfected state we once came from not trying worship and appease an Angry God who only gives us one person, to get us back into good standing with Yahweh.

As a Christian Gnostic I read the bible differently (something fundamentalist; and most likely most Christians wouldn't want me to do). I see the OT God as different and separate as the NT God, something that the Dogma of Orthodox Christianity would say I am a heretic for doing.

But when you look at the word heretic two things came to mind:

1. Who am I being heretical to? God or Men who in their height of arrogance define God in their own image?

2. The definition of heresy means different school of thought. So by my nature I am heretical to the world (aka society) because, I think differently of it.

I serve a God of Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness. He is One that knows my whole nature even better than myself. Why am I to loathe and be ashamed of myself for my imperfection? I am not God; I will make mistakes and I will live with them. This is nothing to be ashamed of.

I serve the same God... In my belief Christ is my highest spiritual double or potential, Christos is Logos which is an aspect yet independent from God hence belief in the Trinity.

The idea isn't to loath and hate yourself because, than people would pre-maturely end their life. The idea is to accept your shortfalls and work to overcome those weakness.

Shame and guilt prevent me from growing in Faith. Knowledge of my flaws brings me no shame, but rather, jubilation, as I now know what I am working towards improving. Knowledge of my own flaws also allows me to have a clear perspective as to the workings of God in my life: seeing wounds of the heart close, and new actions proceeding forth from this Healing, only solidifies my faith and brings further joy into my life.

Faith Saves, Good Works Maintain but Gnosis (knowing who you are, where you came from, where your going and what your supposed to do) is your Salvation... At least in Gnostic belief.

Faith means confidence in a person or plan, I am calling out to a God I have forget that is there. God is within me and outside the universe, so I turn to myself not my egoistic drives but my higher nature that is in me. As time passes I get a strong understanding of me, my connection to God, and my purpose which despite egoistic tendency is a path you to would agree with.

Many people, many perspectives to God and many ways to get back to God -- You can only pick one and thats your way... Whether you choose to belief God is (non)existent their is a reason always.