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xilikeeggs0
2008-03-29, 23:44
Where the hell am I supposed to get it? I'm looking at job openings relating to my majors (International Relations/Political Science), and every single job that I've found requires a Bachelor's degree with 10+ years of experience. There's no option to substitute higher education (ie - a Master's) for experience. Where the hell am I supposed to get experience from if nobody will hire me without it?

Euda
2008-03-30, 01:15
What sort of jobs are you looking at?

You can't step out of university and expect your ideal job to be handed to you, unless you're in an engineering or computer science program.

There's always the option of volunteer work and "related experience". Related experience can be almost anything, as long as you can justify how it relates to the job in question.

whocares123
2008-03-30, 04:14
that's what internships and entry level jobs are for. i know it may be fun driving a horse or whatever the hell it is you do, but you should try to find something in your area.

the political science one is easy. local political party and local campaign volunteering and shit. international relations? shit, i don't know. you're in texas. something to do with immigration maybe.

i will be the first to admit a job like above is very hard if not impossible to find. i've yet to succeed for myself.

Entheogenic
2008-03-30, 19:31
Unfortunately, a BA (even from a top-tier university) is no longer enough to guarantee immediate placement in a good job. Bachelor's Degrees are a dime a dozen these days, and you'll have to work your way up from the bottom like everyone else. What field are you specifically trying to get into?


Entheogenic

xilikeeggs0
2008-03-31, 05:44
What sort of jobs are you looking at?

I googled "International relations and political science jobs" and looked at the results. I have no idea what I want to do, which is why I was trying to see what my options were.

Whocares123, how does one go about finding these entry level jobs?

Trousersnake
2008-03-31, 06:02
Apply for the jobs anyhow but don't elude to the fact you don't have the experience, put together your resume, references and portfolio and submit it - If there's no one going for the job with the experience they want well yeah they my go down the ladder.

And do what the other person said, piece together ANY experience you can apply to it where possible - Like with me I work in a kitchen and went for a health inspector job with no other experience and got it because I know it inside out.

whocares123
2008-03-31, 06:31
I googled "International relations and political science jobs" and looked at the results. I have no idea what I want to do, which is why I was trying to see what my options were.

Whocares123, how does one go about finding these entry level jobs?

well i would first go to your college's career service office. or even just look up internship opportunities on your department's website.

i'll echo what someone else said though. for your area of study, plan on getting a higher level degree in the future.

Real.PUA
2008-03-31, 07:30
I googled "International relations and political science jobs" and looked at the results. I have no idea what I want to do, which is why I was trying to see what my options were.

Whocares123, how does one go about finding these entry level jobs?

Find someone who is in a job that you want and ask them how they got there.

whocares123
2008-03-31, 16:43
Find someone who is in a job that you want and ask them how they got there.

totseans incapable of human contact. you're supposed to tell her to find a website talking about how people who have the job she wants got there.

Real.PUA
2008-03-31, 17:51
Human contact is hard, but it's the best way to get a job. 1 contact is probably worth 10 applications.

Entheogenic
2008-03-31, 18:57
One of the best ways to break into that sort of an "industry" is through internships. While you're still in college, start looking for internships (both paid and unpaid) at NGOs, PACs, or governmental organizations in your area. If you can land a good internship, you'll make contacts in the field, learn what a "day in the life" is like, and start building that experience. Most organizations are always looking for bright college students to pay poorly and do their bitchwork ;)


Entheogenic

Star Wars Fan
2008-04-01, 01:01
You're in Texas, join and work in a group dealing with the North American Union or an immigration field or a political campaign (all 3 could make you seem partisan as well so :o)

xilikeeggs0
2008-04-01, 06:30
Apply for the jobs anyhow but don't elude to the fact you don't have the experience, put together your resume, references and portfolio and submit it - If there's no one going for the job with the experience they want well yeah they my go down the ladder.

And do what the other person said, piece together ANY experience you can apply to it where possible - Like with me I work in a kitchen and went for a health inspector job with no other experience and got it because I know it inside out.

I think that my resume and lack of job experience would be a sign that I don't have any experience...

Trousersnake
2008-04-01, 07:07
I think that my resume and lack of job experience would be a sign that I don't have any experience...

Well I dunno your situation...how old are you anyhow upwards of 25 at the oldest right?

Put it to them you'd be a breath of fresh air and that they are asking for 10 years experience and 10 years ago you were 13 years old or something and that you are all that and your shit doesn't stink and they'd be stupid to let you go.

"I got into uni at age xx, never failed a class got through it whilst juggling a job(?), friends and family life so you're good at multitasking and shit I dunno.. haha Make it up yourself.

You have to make them need you, make them realise you know the work and experience isn't everything and that you'd (kiss their ass :p) want them to create a strong basis for your career and need a good mentor.

Be willing to make a sacrifice (salary, working hours, private use of car, whatever) considering you are expecting it of them (hiring down from what they want).

EDIT: If you get turned down from a job politely ask why you were, if it was JUST the lack of experience or something else so you know for sure.

whocares123
2008-04-01, 07:39
I think that my resume and lack of job experience would be a sign that I don't have any experience...

are you stupid or something? i feel like you're looking at jobs targeted at experienced people. those people got their experience in entry level positions. that is what you need to look for.

fucking career services office.

Malkog
2008-04-01, 11:15
Train against the Elite Four with the EXP. SHARE equipped.

r3vVy
2008-04-03, 06:25
Train against the Elite Four with the EXP. SHARE equipped.

LOL, no you just didn't do that....:cool:

And eggs, what kinda stuff you looking at related to International Relations? That was the course I was going to do at uni till I fucked everything up.

When I was researching stuff, there didn't actually seem to be too much you could get with regards to jobs with International Relations, and the little stuff which was available - the competition was apparently VERY fierce for, hence why the requirements are high. Theory of the labour market. :cool:

But yeah, in the meantime, you just have to go for stuff which will aid you in eventually getting that perfect job. Become a little corporate bitch for big MNC for a few years and work your way up. Prove to future employers that you can stick at something, and that you're successful in a competitive environment.

You may also want to consider learning a language or 2, or doing some travelling whilst you still have the chance. It'll pay dividends in teh future.

You're so lucky studying IR though. I'd do anything to be studying that next year at uni :(

nshanin
2008-04-11, 08:00
TS has it right; it's all a game. Bullshit, exaggerate, lie, make up businesses and bosses (who are actually your friends who know what's going on, I dunno). Really, how often is your employer going to look at your resume after you're hired, and what can they do if they catch you lying before? If you want to do it legitimately (you're on totse so that would probably be a stretch), yeah just do internships and find stuff with local political parties. Maybe find somebody who has a good shot at winning a small local election (politics are pretty cut and dry in Texas, aren't they?) and work your ass of to advertise their name; then you might be able to move up; though I doubt that would relate at all to your IR major. Your school offers plenty of internships, and there are always summer programs in D.C.; take advantage of them.

Vilkacis
2008-04-11, 13:53
LOL, no you just didn't do that....:cool:

And eggs, what kinda stuff you looking at related to International Relations? That was the course I was going to do at uni till I fucked everything up.



What happened?

Yeah internships are the way to go - http://charityjobs.com/index.aspx is a good website to start - you can filter out paid/unpaid jobs. Apart from that just google places that you're interested in and search for careers - many will have specific pages for internships. Good luck!

Star Wars Fan
2008-04-11, 15:37
Don't forget....North American Union!

Texas is supposedly kind've involved in that, with new highways and all
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52684

Work with Ron Paul or volunteer if you're against it.

r3vVy
2008-04-11, 18:12
What happened?

Quit college. So no uni for me for a while. :(

But there's this lovely job at the American Embassy in London which I better be hearing from in 6 weeks time!!!

It's 20k/year, you need to type 30wpm, have office experience and 4 GCSEs at C+.

I can type 110wpm, know people who run businesses :cool:, and have 11 GCSEs, 9 of which are A+.

If I don't get it, I'm going to be sooooooooo fucking pissed and will probably become a crack dealer.