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xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-01, 05:49
Im still a Senior in High School, but since Ive been young, Ive always wanted to be a Doctor (Cardiologist or my far fetched dream, Cosmetic Surgeon). I CANT imagine being anything else. The problem is im a pretty lazy, I procrastinate alot, and I do just enough to get by; I pretty much do jack shit all day (cant work or anything, personal problems have left me without a car for over a year now), but still pull off B's in all my classes. Im not too worried about High School, what scares the shit out of me is Med School. How am I going to maintain a 4.0 in College to get into a Med School? How am I going to write a paper that will stand out from thousands of applicants? How will I find the dedication to cram entire books into my head and study for weeks, even months?

What am trying to ask is, do people like me even stand a chance at becoming Doctors? Or is it only cut out for people like the Asian kid in the front row of all your classes that hands in all his shit ahead of time, never misses an assignment, and never gets anything below a B?

whocares123
2008-04-01, 06:06
What am trying to ask is, do people like me even stand a chance at becoming Doctors?

probably not.

you must, as you said, maintain close to a 4.0 for your four years of undergrad school, majoring in an area that covers all of the tedious med school prereqs (year of gen chem, year of organic chem, year of biology, year of calculus, year of physics, if i remember correctly) or simply do those classes as electives and work a little harder or longer to major in something else, get a good score on the MCAT and be accepted into a medical school, where even the "crappier" ones have acceptance rates of around 10%. then do that shit for 4+ years before moving on to your cardiologist speciality, another good 4+ years of training. if you want to do cosmetic surgery, i believe it takes even longer. then there is the actual profession itself. 60, 70, 80, 90 hour work weeks? this is not a profession for someone who describes themselves as "pretty lazy."

what attracts you to the profession so much? what research have you done about it? are you sure it isn't just a fascination with the money and prestige? like nip/tuck a little too much?

if you really wanted to do this, i don't understand why you wouldn't work harder in high school to get into a good college. high school is so fucking easy. when you get to college, and those first few gen chem and calculus courses, you may find yourself changing your mind about a career in medicine. just my two cents.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-01, 06:21
It might be that Ive been pressured to peruse this career since ive been little. I have alot of people riding my ass telling me I need to be a doctor, im not sure if it phases me because theres nothing else I could imagine being anyways. Its not even the money or prestige either.

Unfortunately I havnt done much research about these 2 professions. What would be some things to consider? Im already aware of the Medical School costs, the intense years of studies, and hell.. I aced Anatomy blind folded with both arms tied behind my back. :p

whocares123
2008-04-01, 07:44
heh, well i don't know how hard high school anatomy is. i was in that class my senior year for two days. i dropped it when the teacher held up a leg bone and said to us "there's lots of ways you can look at bones...like this *holds horizontally*...or you could do it like this *turns bone vertically*." she then went on to explain there was black mold growing on it because a former student thought it'd be funny to throw out the window and into a pond in the courtyard. i guess it is.

anyway, my point is right now just worry about high school work. you're a long way from being a surgeon or cardiologist. you're a senior, so you've already applied and probably know what colleges youve gotten into, right? which ones? what major interests you that the school offers? i tend to hear a lot of discouragement from doing a "pre-med" major. most people at my university do biology.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-01, 18:17
Due to financial problems im going to get my core classes out of my way in a community college. Im planning on majoring in Biology; after those 2 years im going to transfer to a university.

Vilkacis
2008-04-01, 20:36
It might be that Ive been pressured to peruse this career since ive been little. I have alot of people riding my ass telling me I need to be a doctor, im not sure if it phases me because theres nothing else I could imagine being anyways. Its not even the money or prestige either.

Don't let expectations rule your life. I guess you're 17 at the moment? A lot will change for you over the next few years, its fine if you still want to go into medicine at the end of it, but just don't close any doors on the way there.

If you've got no motivation and drive to succeed, then you won't, simple as. You got to be sure that being a doctor is what you want, not what you think you should be. Good luck!

whocares123
2008-04-02, 06:10
Due to financial problems im going to get my core classes out of my way in a community college. Im planning on majoring in Biology; after those 2 years im going to transfer to a university.

don't get caught up in the community college crowd/lifestyle. you'll end up dropping out or deciding to just be an LN.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-02, 07:40
don't get caught up in the community college crowd/lifestyle. you'll end up dropping out or deciding to just be an LN.

whats that crowd/lifestyle like??:confused:

whocares123
2008-04-02, 19:39
whats that crowd/lifestyle like??:confused:

i can only speak of how it is in my hometown. only a third of kids who graduated in my class (about 70% graduated anyway) went on to college. the majority of those kids went to the local community college. so now the same kids who just fucked around in high school are in community college, and even have some of the same teachers. they may not be stupid, but they're not very...goal oriented. you know how people are influenced by their peers, right? so if you go into a community college, where expectations are low, and say you want to be a fucking surgeon or cardiologist, you'll have a rough time. you'll see people be happy with getting their associates degrees and finding employment that looks appealing. in the medical profession, you'll see LNs, EMTs, various techs...etc.

well actually, since you want to transfer, you'll be taking general classes and be around people with even lower aspirations, possibly. i have a lazy friend who is going to community college to get his associate of arts degree. the whole "go to community college 2 years then transfer to a 4 year university" is designed around one getting their associate of arts or associate of science degree from a community college first, which is just a general degree with no major or specialization. that by itself is pretty useless, so he's an idiot for not going for some specialization that would get him employment. i just can't see him transferring to a "real college" and taking hard, upper level classes after he's been so lazy and has a C average, even while purposely taking the easiest electives the community college offers. you get into that cycle, and...you just settle. all of your classmates have already settled. "who wants to be a crummy old doctor anyway. my dad's a plumber, and he's just fine. i'll do that too."

did you intend on transferring to a university near your home, so you could live at home? or moving away?

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-03, 04:16
Staying home with my family, even if i was to move away, they would probably move with me..

whocares123
2008-04-03, 06:33
Staying home with my family, even if i was to move away, they would probably move with me..

weird.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-03, 06:37
weird.

Well if i dont stay in vegas, I was going to study in Cali.. My family has been wanting to move to cali anyways, so me studying there would only be one more reason too..

Lazarus
2008-04-14, 10:53
What am trying to ask is, do people like me even stand a chance at becoming Doctors?

If you are intelligent enough and are serious about it, then yes, "people like you", whatever that is, stand a chance of becoming doctors. I am starting med school in september this year, and I'm far from a model student.


Or is it only cut out for people like the Asian kid in the front row of all your classes that hands in all his shit ahead of time, never misses an assignment, and never gets anything below a B?

Yes and no. You don't have to be asian, or sit in the front row, or hand in all your "shit" ahead of time... but you do have to get good grades. How pleased would you be if you found out the guy you are trusting with your life was a C student (or worse)?

If you are serious about it, work at it. Like I said, it doesn't matter who you are (bear in mind I know nothing about you; I'm assuming you're not a convicted rapist or anything). Piss around all you want on your own time, but always put your education first. Don't get high at school, don't get drunk and do your homework (I tried it years ago: doesn't work).

Good luck, and don't fuck it up, because I hear McDonalds are offering a very attractive package these days.

P.S.Well if i dont stay in vegas, I was going to study in Cali.. My family has been wanting to move to cali anyways, so me studying there would only be one more reason too..

Don't live with your family. You will miss out on a huge part of the whole university experience. Fuck debt, you're going to have it anyways.

whocares123
2008-04-14, 20:04
Lazarus, are you in the united states? because i've heard nothing but how ridiculously hard it is to get into medical school in the united states, and you said you're not a model student, so...i'm curious how you did it.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-04-14, 21:56
How hard is it really to get into Med School and what do I do if I dont get into Med school? Would I have basically waste all those years of studying medicine?

whocares123
2008-04-14, 23:40
How hard is it really to get into Med School and what do I do if I dont get into Med school? Would I have basically waste all those years of studying medicine?

do you know how the process works?

if you don't get into med school, you'll still have a bachelor's degree. i suppose then you could either use that to try to find a job, or go to graduate school in that subject. some schools offer official "pre-med" majors, where your whole undergrad experience is being geared toward med school and the MCAT, but i've heard these students actually do worse than someone who majored in say, biology, genetics, pharmacy, chemistry, biochem...etc. plus that pre-med degree on its own is pretty useless...i suppose you could work as a salesman in the medical/pharmaceutical industry, or something like that.

you're not going to do much "studying medicine" before medical school. you're going to be completing painful prereqs that won't be at all relevant to your job as a doctor, like calculus and physics. i can't do it, man. i was burned out after two gen chem courses.

Lazarus
2008-04-15, 06:20
Lazarus, are you in the united states? because i've heard nothing but how ridiculously hard it is to get into medical school in the united states, and you said you're not a model student, so...i'm curious how you did it.

I'm in the UK. It is ridiculously hard here also.

The Fool-Proof guide to med-school admissions:

1) Get near-perfect exam results
2) Spend lots (and I mean lots) of time in medical work experience + voluntary work
3) Have developed and interesting extra-curricular activities (to talk about in interview etc)
4) Shave your goatee and get a haircut, you damn hippie.
5) Wear a suit. Present yourself well.
6) Kick ass and take names in the interview.
7) ????
8) Welcome to Medical School.

As long as you can cover those bases, that's really all that matters. Most people I know that are in Medical School here are more like the model student, I guess I'm an exception. At least it proves that it can be done.

P.S. I thought I'd better add in a few things as an afterthought.

I'm certainly not a model student, but I have done some reasonably interesting stuff (I play lead guitar for a few bands, have travelled through europe, north and south america, and asia, play football and rugby to a high standard, etc etc). They will be looking at you as a person, and your academic record is only a part of that. If you are obviously a total bum, then your chances are slim.

TruthWielder
2008-05-09, 02:35
It takes the grades, no doubt about that, and moreso the brains. Medical journals, grays anatomy, and Medical texts are your best friends. Follow your dreams. A pure heart and clear eyes cannot lose. Just do your best in everything, follow this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_oath

And you'll get there.

napoleon_complex
2008-05-10, 05:44
Getting into med school isn't really all that hard. There are surprisingly a lot of medical schools in the United States. Now, if you wanted to get into an elite medical school, you would need near perfect grades and a high MCAT as well as meeting/exceeding other criteria. However, not all medical schools are like that. A lot of crappy state schools have medical schools, and it's easier to get into those.

However, what makes med school so hard isn't so much the admissions(only a third of applicants to every college get accepted, but that's actually higher than a lot of other professional programs), it's the actual coursework.

Med Schools usually have a surprisingly high drop out rate. Yeah the coursework is hard, but med school students are almost always incredibly bright, hard working people. So you know when they can't handle it, it's tough.

Not to mention, medical school can often be an incredible financial burden. Most med school students are looking at around 150000 dollars in debt upon graduating and finishing their internships/residencies. It's tough starting out.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-05-10, 19:25
So what do these people do when they drop out? Did they waste all those years studying or are there other options for Med School drop-outs.

napoleon_complex
2008-05-10, 19:34
I'm not sure. I'm guessing something less stressful. Most likely in whatever their Bachelor degree field was I imagine.

whocares123
2008-05-10, 20:25
Getting into med school isn't really all that hard.

i don't believe this for a god damn second.

look up the acceptance rates of medical schools on princetonreview.com. for ohio, the one with the highest acceptance rate, i believe, was university of cincinnati, at 11% or something. i've heard multiple stories of people with good grades, extracurriculars, and good MCAT scores not being able to get into a medical school in the united states.

napoleon_complex
2008-05-11, 01:31
I'm not saying it's easy, it's just not impossible. You do need a good resume to get accepted. You can't get accepted with some shitty application, but if you have good grades, good MCAT scores, and good extras, you'll be able to get accepted somewhere.

You'll have to apply to a bunch of places, but everyone does(and this leads to deflated acceptance rates).

There are just a lot of different places to go to if you want to become a doctor in the United States. It might not be the college of your choice, but there is always someplace willing to take qualified candidates.

whocares123
2008-05-11, 01:53
I'm not saying it's easy, it's just not impossible. You do need a good resume to get accepted. You can't get accepted with some shitty application, but if you have good grades, good MCAT scores, and good extras, you'll be able to get accepted somewhere.

You'll have to apply to a bunch of places, but everyone does(and this leads to deflated acceptance rates).

There are just a lot of different places to go to if you want to become a doctor in the United States. It might not be the college of your choice, but there is always someplace willing to take qualified candidates.

well in your earlier posts you alluded to an acceptance rate of about a third of applicants, but i've yet to see any place so high. i have also heard stories from more than one person, about people they know not getting in to any med schools. i think if the OP really wants to be a doctor, getting into med school should be his goal starting immediately. even before college, he should be trying to get any job that is medical related, even if it's literally shoveling shit in a nursing home, and talking to and shadowing doctor's.

i just feel like this takes so much effort to do that you have to be padding your resume from birth. i could sit down and study the human body and medicine but i just can't deal with everything else involved in becoming a doctor. the horrible prereqs they require you to take in undergrad school, the pressure to get As in most things, Bs in a few only, and all of the extracurricular activities that are expected of you as a premed student, as if you fucking have time for that when you're trying to get an A in physics. and then after all that, you haven't even begun your medical training. so much money spent on so much of a demanding course load over at least 8 years, to be able to walk into a little room, listen to me cough for a few minutes, and say "yep, it's likely bronchitis. we're gonna start you on some anti biotics. k bye."

fuck it.

PenisCancer
2008-05-14, 05:57
probably not.

you must, as you said, maintain close to a 4.0 for your four years of undergrad school, majoring in an area that covers all of the tedious med school prereqs (year of gen chem, year of organic chem, year of biology, year of calculus, year of physics, if i remember correctly) or simply do those classes as electives and work a little harder or longer to major in something else, get a good score on the MCAT and be accepted into a medical school, where even the "crappier" ones have acceptance rates of around 10%. then do that shit for 4+ years before moving on to your cardiologist speciality, another good 4+ years of training. if you want to do cosmetic surgery, i believe it takes even longer. then there is the actual profession itself. 60, 70, 80, 90 hour work weeks? this is not a profession for someone who describes themselves as "pretty lazy."

what attracts you to the profession so much? what research have you done about it? are you sure it isn't just a fascination with the money and prestige? like nip/tuck a little too much?

if you really wanted to do this, i don't understand why you wouldn't work harder in high school to get into a good college. high school is so fucking easy. when you get to college, and those first few gen chem and calculus courses, you may find yourself changing your mind about a career in medicine. just my two cents.

I don't agree with all of this.

If you really want to do this than you are going to have to change your work ethic. That is all it takes. I'm guessing you are intelligent (you haven't said what you got on the SAT), but assuming you are, than medical school is definately possibility. Around 44-47% of applicants get into medical school. You may say, "Wow, that is almost 50%!" Well, understand that 95% of those that applied have above a 3.5. So really, it's pretty difficult.

Statistically, you don't have to get a 4.0 in undergrad. The average matriculant has a 3.6 GPA in undergrad. A 3.6 is not that hard to earn. The other important half is the MCAT. You HAVE to do well on this. Usually if you score below a 28 you aren't in good shape for a medical school.

Also, you don't have to major in biology, chemistry, or engineering. You can major in WHATEVER you want. All you need to do is take is the core pre-reqs (which you can look up online yourself). Fuck it, I'll just list them for you:
1. Year of English
2. Year of General Chemistry (with lab)
3. Year of Organic Chemistry (with lab)
4. Year of Biology (with lab)
5. Year of Physics (with lab)
6. Year of Math (You should take Calculus and Statistics)
7. Biochemistry (1 semester - OPTIONAL - But will increase the number of schools you can apply to)
8. Genetics (Same as what I said for biochemistry)
9. Year of Spanish (Only if you want to apply to a school in california or texas).
Basically being pre-med is like double majoring in some respects. It isn't easy. But it is doable. By the way. You don't have to take ANY of the optional classes. Calculus and statistics are also considered optional. The year of math, however, is NOT optional.

Extra cirriculars are big too. Start volunteering in a hospital when you begin college. Do some research with a professor... Join a fraternity to show that your not just a geek that studies all the time.

Lastly, If this is something you REALLY want to do and you just can't seem to get the grades than there are other options. There are osteopathic medical schools (DO). These DO programs require lesser credentials to get in (this is a generalization - as A FEW DO schools have higher standards than some allopathic medical schools). For a DO school your GPA can be as low a 3.2. Anything less than this is really pushing it. Also, on the MCAT I would aim for above a 25-26. Also, now-a-days, osteopathic physicians are look upon with the same regard as allopathic physicians.

And, if worst comes to worst you can go out of the country to the Carribean. I wouldn't want to do this, but research it and see what you find.

I have given you a really BROAD, NOT VERY DETAILED description of what it takes. Do some research on your own. Maybe you will find that being a doctor isn't for you.

Good luck.

whocares123
2008-05-14, 06:25
^ dude, you just pretty much reiterated what i said in a longer manner. i clearly said you don't have to major in something like biology, that you can just do the prereqs and major in anything.

a 3.6 overall GPA won't hurt you as much if you have more extracurriculars and a really good MCAT score, but to hedge your bets it's best to get very damn near close to a 4.0. also, it's your GPA in those prereq courses they're going to look at the most. you can't get C's in your premed courses, major in philosophy and get As in all those courses, and come out with a 3.6 GPA like it means something to med schools. they're smarter than that.

DO programs are not as easier to get into as you said. Dos and MDs are professionally regarded as equals, in the united states at least, and the DO program itself might even be harder considering the extra osteopathic training involved. but if you do a DO program, chances are your license will only be recognized within the united states.

DO school stats:


Ohio University's College of Osteopathic Medicine:

stats for those accepted:

Average GPA: 3.51
Average MCAT Bio: 8.40
Average MCAT Phys: 7.55
Average MCAT Verbal: 8.40
Average MCAT Essay: P
Acceptance Rate: 5%

Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine:

Average GPA: 3.40
Average MCAT Bio: 8.56
Average MCAT Phys: 8.03
Average MCAT Verbal: 8.08
Average MCAT Essay: P
Acceptance Rate: 11%

Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine:

Average GPA: 3.32
Average MCAT Bio: 8.20
Average MCAT Phys: 7.60
Average MCAT Verbal: 7.90
Average MCAT Essay: O
Acceptance Rate: 9%

West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine:

Average GPA: 3.48
Average MCAT Bio: 7.30
Average MCAT Phys: 6.80
Average MCAT Verbal: 7.80
Average MCAT Essay: N
Acceptance Rate: 19%

and there's something like 25 DO med schools in the US, but i guess they are SLIGHTLY easier to get into. but they still require the same prereqs, still have very low acceptance rates, and you'll still need a cockload of extracurriculars.

OP, if you were serious about this, you should get a job in the healthcare industry this summer, even if it's like i said, shoveling shit at a nursing home.

PenisCancer
2008-05-20, 17:59
^ dude, you just pretty much reiterated what i said in a longer manner. i clearly said you don't have to major in something like biology, that you can just do the prereqs and major in anything.

a 3.6 overall GPA won't hurt you as much if you have more extracurriculars and a really good MCAT score, but to hedge your bets it's best to get very damn near close to a 4.0. also, it's your GPA in those prereq courses they're going to look at the most. you can't get C's in your premed courses, major in philosophy and get As in all those courses, and come out with a 3.6 GPA like it means something to med schools. they're smarter than that.

DO programs are not as easier to get into as you said. Dos and MDs are professionally regarded as equals, in the united states at least, and the DO program itself might even be harder considering the extra osteopathic training involved. but if you do a DO program, chances are your license will only be recognized within the united states.

DO school stats:


Ohio University's College of Osteopathic Medicine:

stats for those accepted:

Average GPA: 3.51
Average MCAT Bio: 8.40
Average MCAT Phys: 7.55
Average MCAT Verbal: 8.40
Average MCAT Essay: P
Acceptance Rate: 5%

Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine:

Average GPA: 3.40
Average MCAT Bio: 8.56
Average MCAT Phys: 8.03
Average MCAT Verbal: 8.08
Average MCAT Essay: P
Acceptance Rate: 11%

Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine:

Average GPA: 3.32
Average MCAT Bio: 8.20
Average MCAT Phys: 7.60
Average MCAT Verbal: 7.90
Average MCAT Essay: O
Acceptance Rate: 9%

West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine:

Average GPA: 3.48
Average MCAT Bio: 7.30
Average MCAT Phys: 6.80
Average MCAT Verbal: 7.80
Average MCAT Essay: N
Acceptance Rate: 19%

and there's something like 25 DO med schools in the US, but i guess they are SLIGHTLY easier to get into. but they still require the same prereqs, still have very low acceptance rates, and you'll still need a cockload of extracurriculars.

OP, if you were serious about this, you should get a job in the healthcare industry this summer, even if it's like i said, shoveling shit at a nursing home.

Sorry I guess I skimmed your first post.

People LIKE to claim that DOs and MDs are equals professionally... But really coming out of med school with a DO limits you. Alot. It closes doors. After residency, however, you are correct. MD = DO = Doctor. All I am saying is if you get into an MD school. Go there.

And a DO is alot easier to get into. Look at those average MCATs! And if you can't get a 3.4-3.5 in college working hard than maybe medical school isn't for you. 1st/2nd years is like a giant buffer that shoul prevent you from getting too low of a GPA.

whocares123
2008-05-20, 23:07
Sorry I guess I skimmed your first post.

People LIKE to claim that DOs and MDs are equals professionally... But really coming out of med school with a DO limits you. Alot. It closes doors. After residency, however, you are correct. MD = DO = Doctor. All I am saying is if you get into an MD school. Go there.

And a DO is alot easier to get into. Look at those average MCATs! And if you can't get a 3.4-3.5 in college working hard than maybe medical school isn't for you. 1st/2nd years is like a giant buffer that shoul prevent you from getting too low of a GPA.

a DO school is slightly easier to get into. not "a lot." and i'll have to disagree with the degree limiting you. all depends what you want to do, i guess.

OP and anyone else interested in med school or pre-med stuff, i've run across a great forum where the whole focus is on medical school and other health professions like dentists, optometrists, etc.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net

in addition to the forums, there's a whole site. haven't looked at that much but there are a TON of threads on that forum just like this, and ones that deal with specifics. the DO vs. MD thing is something the senior members of the forum, many of which are medical school students, seem to give little regard. a doctor is a doctor is a doctor.

there's another great website, www.mdapplicants.com which has profiles that people who are applying or applied to med school put up, listing their grades, MCATs, extra curriculars, and the schools they applied to and were accepted. it's pretty interesting, because you can look at people who were accepted to the school you want to go to and then see what it takes. and for shits and giggles, see what kind of people get into the top schools.

edit: OP if you're serious about medical school i would look into what it takes for the schools in your state. out of state (OOS) tuition at medical schools is like almost double what in-state is. once you've got your degree, you're a doctor, so it doesn't make sense to get into so much debt needlessly, unless you really had your heart set on going to harvard medical school or something and actually got in.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-05-21, 00:50
Well I just got back from my councilor. She told me that all those courses you guys mentioned that werent required, actually are. For my Bachlor in Bio I need:

2 english courses
1 math course (math181) which i thinkis calc2
2 chemistry courses
1 course in social science
1 fine arts course
3 in core humanities
2 in diversity (anthropology)

All she kept telling me is how i will need to study atleast 12-14hours for every class period in order to actually grasp it all, how i have to get straight A's, how I wont have time for a job since I will be studying all day every day, how much fucking material I have to cover, and how slim even after all that work the chances of getting into a med school are.

So what the fuck would I do after spending all that money and time and I dont get into a med school? Would I just keep re-applying until they accept me or what?

whocares123
2008-05-21, 04:07
Well I just got back from my councilor. She told me that all those courses you guys mentioned that werent required, actually are. For my Bachlor in Bio I need:

2 english courses
1 math course (math181) which i thinkis calc2
2 chemistry courses
1 course in social science
1 fine arts course
3 in core humanities
2 in diversity (anthropology)

All she kept telling me is how i will need to study atleast 12-14hours for every class period in order to actually grasp it all, how i have to get straight A's, how I wont have time for a job since I will be studying all day every day, how much fucking material I have to cover, and how slim even after all that work the chances of getting into a med school are.

So what the fuck would I do after spending all that money and time and I dont get into a med school? Would I just keep re-applying until they accept me or what?

requirements for a bachelor's degree in biology =/= requirements for applying to medical school.

again, you can major in anything. each med school posts the specific requirements, as well as courses they recommend you take on their website. though there are variations between schools, the core requirements seem to be:

1 year general chemistry with lab
1 year organic chemistry with lab
1 year physics with lab
1 year biology with lab
1 year english

it seems like you should need more chemistry courses for a biology major, as in organic chemistry.

but really dude, go to the student doctor forum link i posted. the whole forum is dedicated to this topic, and it is just as active if not more so than totse.

edit: what you decide to do after you don't get into med school is entirely up to you and your situation. a good number of med students don't get in the first time, and then take a year to get more experience for their application and reapply. others go on to graduate school to get something like an MPH (masters of public health). either way, you've still got a bachelor's degree in something and might decide to just be done with school and begin working. if you plan on getting at least a 4 year degree anyway than you're not wasting money. besides, the real expenses come when you're actually in medical school.

xRadical_Wankerx
2008-05-21, 05:50
whocares and peniscancer youre both fucking saints. Thanks for all the help.

Ill make sure to come back to this thread and bug you some more when i come across some problems.