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Xerxes89
2008-04-18, 17:34
Most of the popular religions talk about unity, love, and brotherhood. So why isn't there an initiative to well... knit together the varied religious groups and spread peace? All I see nowadays is: "My God can Beat the Shit out of your God" mentality (lol @ the forum name). So how would one go about changing this mentality?

Hexadecimal
2008-04-18, 19:08
Most of the popular religions talk about unity, love, and brotherhood. So why isn't there an initiative to well... knit together the varied religious groups and spread peace? All I see nowadays is: "My God can Beat the Shit out of your God" mentality (lol @ the forum name). So how would one go about changing this mentality?

There is such a movement. It's a pretty discreet movement though, and it must remain such for some time as to not garner unwanted attention from those who would try and stop it. The base is a few hundred million world-wide, and we meet in nearly every major city on the globe.

It's weird...a real life forum where people can freely express their every opinion, tell their every adventure, and this with no fear of being reported to the authorities, or being expelled, or any such nonsense. The whole focus is the improvement of the individual so that they may better help others to improve themselves through the sharing of their experiences with God in this life. We don't give a damn what your concept of God is. :) Hell, we even welcome atheists and agnostics, they're as much our brothers and sisters as those who have a faith. We have but one requirement for membership, and that is the desire to improve one's self. Our meeting areas go by many names...and you're welcome at any one of them.

If you ever feel like coming to one, hit me up the next time you're in Rockford, IL.

atma.sephira@gmail.com

ArmsMerchant
2008-04-18, 19:10
It is changing now. Millions of people read books by Walsch, Dyer, and so on--thousands more attend seminars by Chopra and read his books--all these folks espouse the idea--among others--that we are All One, and hence there is no need to hate or envy anyone else. You don't hear much about us because we don't cause any trouble.

If you truely desire to change the world, change yourself.

harry_hardcore_hoedown
2008-04-20, 05:47
Most of the popular religions talk about unity, love, and brotherhood. So why isn't there an initiative to well... knit together the varied religious groups and spread peace?

Petty differences in their beliefs. A lot of religious leaders are douchebags who could never accept people with trivial differences in beliefs.

kurdt318
2008-04-20, 19:00
Welcome to the paradigm shift my friend.

BrokeProphet
2008-04-20, 19:23
There will ALWAYS be hate, greed, envy, deception, perversion, and wrath in the hearts of men. No matter how religious you become these things will still be a part of you. To deny them is to deny yourself.

No religion is going to ever make this world a better place. They have all promised this and have all failed to do so. It is not like they have not been given plenty of time and patience.

Here is why your meetings concerning Chopra and the like, will not change the world. If you get big enough to enact change...your leaders will spend more time worrying over convincing the hot blonde sitting front row to become one with him, than he will worry over making change.

Your leaders will be greedy, and corrupt. You cannot deny what lurks in the hearts of men. To try and do so is an exercise in futility.

Your religion will not change the world.

A lack of religion WILL change the world, for the better.

Vanhalla
2008-04-20, 21:56
Handbook for the New Paradigm (http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=60)

"Cries and begging to be relieved of the situation by God, or Jesus, Buddha or Mohammed will not do it. You have allowed this evil to descend upon you and so it is you, individually and collectively, that must take it upon yourselves to conceive this solution. A new consciousness change must take place within you. Not all of humanity will choose to participate. There will be some that will hide their heads in blame and grovel in victimhood. So be it. Let them. You have no time to recruit among them, for what of creativity could they offer? This is a clarion call to the consciousness of those with the strength of character to stand up within their own conscious awareness and decide this situation shall not be allowed to continue to its planned completion. Even those who are in the midst of that abominable plan have no idea that the end is indeed to be annihilation. Unfortunately, it is not only planned to be annihilation of the people and the planet, but of realms beyond imagination."

Savin_Jesus
2008-04-20, 22:09
I can tell you why, and I can also tell you with out reading the above posters that they are wrong.


1. They all have a central figure, and have a "spokes person" for their religon.

2. They all have a "promised" land, and it seems to be centralized around a small area in teh middle east. Usualy around Israel, although Israel is a state created by the Leauge of Nations I believe which pushed out the palistinians.


***Actually it is United Nations General Assembly RESOLUTION 151***

3. Read any "Holy book" and they are filled with war.

leuda
2008-04-25, 18:19
Nearly every religion is the same in that it has

1. A way you SHOULD act :: And its usually in a peaceful and loving way.

2. Depictions of two or more places you go to when you die

3. The way you get to those places.



The difference comes in the last one. How you get to heaven.

The question of what makes the difference in religion is what YOU have to do to get into the best after-life paradise possible.

I wikied a few different major religions and tried to find there 'how to get to heaven in a nutshell' (If I got anything grossly wrong Im sorry and would much appreciate correction.)

Islam: "The Qur'an lists several sins that can condemn a person to hell, such as disbelief, usury and dishonesty. Muslims view paradise (jannah) as a place of joy and bliss, with Qur'anic references describing its features and the physical pleasures to come. "

Buddhism: "Bodhi [enlightment] is attained when the Four Noble Truths are fully grasped, and all karma has reached cessation."

Catholicism: In Catholicism, those who die in a state of grace but with either unforgiven venial sins or incomplete penance, undergo purification in purgatory to achieve the holiness necessary for entrance into heaven."

Lots of 'dont sin' in most of them though.

Feds In Town
2008-04-25, 20:00
Most of the popular religions talk about unity, love, and brotherhood. So why isn't there an initiative to well... knit together the varied religious groups and spread peace? All I see nowadays is: "My God can Beat the Shit out of your God" mentality (lol @ the forum name). So how would one go about changing this mentality?

Lol, yeah it's dumb.

God is all about love.....

But everyone else is going to burn in flames FOREVER, witnessing horrible pain. it doesn't matter if they are nice people, i'll say hi and be friendly to the hindu working at the cleaners, but i think he will FOREVER be tortured after he dies. and i'm ok with that.

It's like come on man, give me a fucking break.

glutamate antagonist
2008-04-25, 21:27
Your religion will not change the world.

A lack of religion WILL change the world, for the better.

I agree, but I think there's more to it than religion.

I think religion is just another facet through which men exact their will, and that it's rather a reflection of corruption than that in itself. I think you'd have to ban ideology of any sort to properly eliminate such things.

So nations, governing systems, economic systems and religions.

That's where I stand, anyway. I secretly look down on anyone who declared themself as committed to any particular political movement. Why not just be yourself? Why be a something-ist? Why use a word with massive amount of connotation to describe yourself?

I'd give my idea a name, but that would begin the same process of superorganization and mass connotation that my attitude is against.

Exceptions include that which are to do with beliefs about objective reality, or the lack thereof. So atheist, theist, scientist etc. all politically neutral.

pwntbypancakes
2008-04-27, 20:08
There will ALWAYS be hate, greed, envy, deception, perversion, and wrath in the hearts of men. No matter how religious you become these things will still be a part of you. To deny them is to deny yourself.

No religion is going to ever make this world a better place. They have all promised this and have all failed to do so. It is not like they have not been given plenty of time and patience.

Here is why your meetings concerning Chopra and the like, will not change the world. If you get big enough to enact change...your leaders will spend more time worrying over convincing the hot blonde sitting front row to become one with him, than he will worry over making change.

Your leaders will be greedy, and corrupt. You cannot deny what lurks in the hearts of men. To try and do so is an exercise in futility.

Your religion will not change the world.

A lack of religion WILL change the world, for the better.

amen5

HellzShellz
2008-04-27, 20:40
Most of the popular religions talk about unity, love, and brotherhood. So why isn't there an initiative to well... knit together the varied religious groups and spread peace? All I see nowadays is: "My God can Beat the Shit out of your God" mentality (lol @ the forum name). So how would one go about changing this mentality?


Really and seriously. What you're talking about is coming about within the Body of Christ. We're seeing that we can't be divided against one another, and we have to keep our FOCUS on the Messiah, because HE'LL lead each of us in the directions and paths that we should individually take for our own lives in order to supply the demand of the Head for the will of God to be accomplished, and effect change through us imparted into this world. This excites me!

I don't care what you are, I do care about who YOUR GOD is.

Flaky
2008-04-27, 21:56
George Carlin had a joke about this. God is an all powerful, all knowing being. He also has a special set of 10 rules, called the Ten Commandments, that you must follow. If you do not follow his special set of ten rules, he has a special place for you. In this place you gasp and choke, scream, writhe in pain, and get tortured forever and ever, until the end of time. But always remember, he loves you.

boozehound420
2008-04-28, 02:42
I find it ammusing to see people of different faiths be nice to eachother. Well, as long as one of them is an abrahamic religion.

"I love all people, lets all be friends. Ow BTW your going to be punished by our creator and burned and tortured for eternity in a lake of fire while I spent eternity in paradise"