I'm writing this thread on the basis that God exists, although I see God differently than most religions myself.

God is essentially a system of balance. The universe is a system of energy, balancing itself in the glorious display that we call life. From the rotations of planets right down to systems on planets, everything is a system balance, perfection at it's finest. In the first testament, we here the Story of God, and the expulsion of Satan from the heavens. The simple version of the story is that when God was away, Satan decided to take it upon himself to sit upon God's thrown and take control. Essentially the heavens are a system of balance, so Satan was kicked down to Earth like a peace of trash where he would await judgment day, like the rest of the damned souls.

Part of the balancing system here on earth that we're all part of is our free will. Free will is given to us as every action that we make has a reaction, since we live in a balancing world. From our mistakes and negative reactions that resulted, we would learn to balance our actions to harmonize with our universe.

Then came along the Satanists, Satan's little army of corrupted souls that we call demons. Their goal wasn't balance, but power and control. Their method of execution was to mimic a system of balance that was just a veil for controlling Gods perfect system. Satan was removed from heaven for doing this before, but now on earth he was part of the system, and God let him be. To shove it in Gods face in the ultimate dis, they created this system in his name to glorify his work, yet it's purpose was truly to disrupt and destroy his perfect system. Religion was born.

Over the years, religion was perfected, and worked around Holy men who came through the generations, the prophets of great knowledge bestowed by God himself. Some of the prophets were Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, etc. Satan used these holy figures to create create religious literature based around their life, and manipulated it to exercise control over the populations minds by convincing followers that they were acting on Gods demands following these great prophets. Wars raged, death spread around the world and still does. The earth was blanketed with the darkness of Satan's control.

Don't believe me? Look at Christianity. They want to control the use of drugs and alcohol. Jesus, the son of god smoked weed, opiates, and drank wine. To this day, most Christians are still against these things. Christians have been trying to institute control and enslave the minds of people for thousands of years.

Islam. Islam law is very unjust, lacks complete balance, is full of all kinds of stupid rules of control, and requires you to submit before what they believe is God, but really is Satan. Islam also supports totalitarian control over the masses, and that the masses must surrender their free will or face punishment, usually death or dismemberment.

Do either of these religions fit the tranquility nature of balanced perfection God created, or are they exhibiting the controlling nature of Satan, and disrupting God's system.

The kicker to both religions is that they both for tell the coming of a messiah. This is true, the messiah will come, and may be here now. What they have lied about is his nature.
For Christians and Muslims, they will both receive a false messiah, they will embrace him and damn their souls. The true messiah will be a man who is a representation of balance and free will. Christians and Muslims will find his words to burn their ears and will declare him as the anti-Christ. They will hate him, and try and thwart his efforts to spread the truth to the world. Then it will happen. The major factions of the world will collide under false leadership of their Christs. The three factions will be the Christian sect, it's strength will be the 10 kingdoms of Europe, all under the control of the English royal family. William is the True anti-Christ, his biblical name is the Red Dragon. The little deceiving war mongering little fuck that he is. The other adversary will be the leader of Iran. The deception of this man is taken lightly, his ultimate plans of using Russia and China's protectionism of Iranian oil to invade the state of Israel, seize the temple mount, and erect the symbol of Islam upon it. The temple mount is being unearthed now. War will break out across the globe. The true Christ, modest in his ways, will take the few worthy of being saved and board a craft to take them to safety. Most of these people are centralized in small area of the world, and if you think really hard, you can figure out where.

The true Christ, the real Messiah, the man of Truth will broadcast his message that it is time to leave. Those who remain will face their judgment being a cog in the machine. If you are Christian, Muslim, or follow any other control religion, I urge you to stop. You must understand the beauty of balance and realize that control is an illusion that cages your soul and makes you a pawn of Satan.

I'm writing this thread on the basis that God exists, although I see God differently than most religions myself.

God is essentially a system of balance. The universe is a system of energy, balancing itself in the glorious display that we call life. From the rotations of planets right down to systems on planets, everything is a system balance, perfection at it's finest. In the first testament, we here the Story of God, and the expulsion of Satan from the heavens. The simple version of the story is that when God was away, Satan decided to take it upon himself to sit upon God's thrown and take control. Essentially the heavens are a system of balance, so Satan was kicked down to Earth like a peace of trash where he would await judgment day, like the rest of the damned souls.

Part of the balancing system here on earth that we're all part of is our free will. Free will is given to us as every action that we make has a reaction, since we live in a balancing world. From our mistakes and negative reactions that resulted, we would learn to balance our actions to harmonize with our universe.

In the idea of balance *cough*Buddhism*cough*, wouldn't that mean that there is no way to live in perfect balance because any action has an equal and opposite reaction? Then, that would make 'good' and 'evil' actions both wrong because they sway the balance? Or should you be 'good' then 'bad' to compensate? That makes little sense to me, because then people should be fairly unpredictable, making life overall worse as distrust breeds abound (assuming a society followed this at large). Continue...

Then came along the Satanists, Satan's little army of corrupted souls that we call demons. Their goal wasn't balance, but power and control. Their method of execution was to mimic a system of balance that was just a veil for controlling Gods perfect system. Satan was removed from heaven for doing this before, but now on earth he was part of the system, and God let him be. To shove it in Gods face in the ultimate dis, they created this system in his name to glorify his work, yet it's purpose was truly to disrupt and destroy his perfect system. Religion was born.

I would disagree that people having a moreorless moral system of behavior makes us worse off. Continue...

Over the years, religion was perfected, and worked around Holy men who came through the generations, the prophets of great knowledge bestowed by God himself. Some of the prophets were Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, etc. Satan used these holy figures to create create religious literature based around their life, and manipulated it to exercise control over the populations minds by convincing followers that they were acting on Gods demands following these great prophets. Wars raged, death spread around the world and still does. The earth was blanketed with the darkness of Satan's control.

Wait... So, if religion was started by Satan, then the prophets had to have been sent by Satan, otherwise then the prophets themselves wouldn't have been preaching in the first place. Or do you mean other men's interpretation of these prophets' work is the work of Satan? Sounds like you don't like someone else telling you how to act. How can you be certain they had the God-given capacity to hear spiritual knowledge, but misinterpreted it? Seems like you have presumed an idea that God is balance, which the prophets apparently knew but ignored because of the power of Satan? Continue...

Don't believe me?

Yep.

Look at Christianity. They want to control the use of drugs and alcohol. Jesus, the son of god smoked weed, opiates, and drank wine. To this day, most Christians are still against these things. Christians have been trying to institute control and enslave the minds of people for thousands of years.

Oh, so the truth comes out. You want to take drugs, but don't like established religion's take on it? Some churches support drug use if you took the time to research AT ALL. Btw, the ban on drugs is more because societal laws than church law. Various church leades later discouraged use for a variety of reasons, but mostly not to piss off political entities and, in the case of Christ, give unto Caesar what is Caesar's. In short, the prophets (Jesus and OT prophets, at least as I know) aren't the ones prohibiting use, but their followers. And I wouldn't be so quick to say all Christians are secretly Satan trying to control everyone else's life. Continue...

Islam. Islam law is very unjust, lacks complete balance, is full of all kinds of stupid rules of control, and requires you to submit before what they believe is God, but really is Satan. Islam also supports totalitarian control over the masses, and that the masses must surrender their free will or face punishment, usually death or dismemberment.

Without examples, your argument is worthless. You can't just declare something to be the case without supporting evidence. Continue...

Do either of these religions fit the tranquility nature of balanced perfection God created, or are they exhibiting the controlling nature of Satan, and disrupting God's system.

The kicker to both religions is that they both for tell the coming of a messiah. This is true, the messiah will come, and may be here now. What they have lied about is his nature.
For Christians and Muslims, they will both receive a false messiah, they will embrace him and damn their souls. The true messiah will be a man who is a representation of balance and free will. Christians and Muslims will find his words to burn their ears and will declare him as the anti-Christ. They will hate him, and try and thwart his efforts to spread the truth to the world. Then it will happen. The major factions of the world will collide under false leadership of their Christs. The three factions will be the Christian sect, it's strength will be the 10 kingdoms of Europe, all under the control of the English royal family. William is the True anti-Christ, his biblical name is the Red Dragon. The little deceiving war mongering little fuck that he is. The other adversary will be the leader of Iran. The deception of this man is taken lightly, his ultimate plans of using Russia and China's protectionism of Iranian oil to invade the state of Israel, seize the temple mount, and erect the symbol of Islam upon it. The temple mount is being unearthed now. War will break out across the globe. The true Christ, modest in his ways, will take the few worthy of being saved and board a craft to take them to safety. Most of these people are centralized in small area of the world, and if you think really hard, you can figure out where.

The true Christ, the real Messiah, the man of Truth will broadcast his message that it is time to leave. Those who remain will face their judgment being a cog in the machine. If you are Christian, Muslim, or follow any other control religion, I urge you to stop. You must understand the beauty of balance and realize that control is an illusion that cages your soul and makes you a pawn of Satan.

Ok, that's a big steaming pile...

Please tell me you came up this on your own and aren't parroting some nonsense. It sounds like you have a God/Messiah-complex and buy into some extreme conspiracy bullshit. What proof do you have for any of your claims? Wake up! These aren't the only religions with messiahs and promised ones.

And absolute free will is a bit of a debate right now...
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/04/mind_decision

Seems to me you don't like having an outside moral code to live up to, and want to chuck out the window religions whose leaders have made bad decisions. You have to study and understand the spirit of a religion and not get caught in the dogmatic details.

Personally, I'm not any of the three or any, for that matter. I believe in the idea of the Light (all-giving) and the Dark (all-taking) which in the transfer of energy, something must be given to be taken. As we take, so we should give. Cancers (that which grossly takes in proportion to what it gives) are removed from the system. General morality is about giving more than you take, so love is my creed, and I fight when cancers appear.

If you are Christian, Muslim, or follow any other control religion, I urge you to stop. You must understand the beauty of balance and realize that control is an illusion that cages your soul and makes you a pawn of Satan.

Why must anyone?

And why would anyone believe this?

And why do you think the current situation, and anything that could happen in our futures, is not part of God? You act as though "now" is something which must be corrected, as if the current situation is one which was never "meant to be".

I'll answer Obbe's post first.

God doesn't control, Satan does. God isn't letting or not letting anything happen, the choice is simple to whether you support a system of oppression and servitude, or you want to be a free soul. The system is imploding, and we need to pick our paths. Our time to make this choice is less than you'd think.

Cuban- I'm talking about a balance of physics and our affects upon the world, not between good and evil, cause those terms depend on semantics. An example is that we can be part of our ecosystem and understand it, or we can fuck up the planet. A system for perpetuating peace, or a system that breeds war. Good and Bad doesn't matter, it's your choice of which world you strive to create that does.

Not sure what you mean by this,"I would disagree that people having a moreorless moral system of behavior makes us worse off. Continue..."

Find me a prophet that appeared as holy, that demanded his teachings become religion. Jesus hated religion, and constantly bitched out people in temples and called it corrupt. Yet a religion was born around his teachings, which makes no fucking sense at all. Jesus never told us how to act, but simply encouraged us to act in good nature. Prophets can be Holy and good, but their words can easily be twisted for controlling means. Money is control and power, and by surrendering it to the church, you surrender your control and power in the community. Jesus preached against this, and the only figure that supported annexing control and power was Satan. How many murders and wars have been paid for or supported by the vatican? Yeah, I'm sure that was Jesus' message of love and peace.

All Christians that donate to a church that tries to dictate human behavior is supporting control over the masses, even if that person does not support all of the messages the church portrays. If I donate money to a campaign to the Nazi party, but didn't support the holocaust, am I still not guilty for supporting their ability for genocide? I am aware that some churches don't support prohibition, but the general majority of churches do, and the ones that don't are small power players in the scheme of things. Name one mainstream church that has an anti-prohibition agenda?

The proof that Islam is controlling is proven by looking at their laws, punishments, suggested systems of governance, and oppression of the last 1300 years. Shit, you can be arrested for singing in public in Saudia Arabia. That's completely fair.

By your definition of your beliefs, you are actually a true follower of Christs beliefs and teachings, and seem to know it in your heart what is right, and require no religion to tell you. You've already made the right choice, even if you won't recognize the Satanism around us. How do I know shit will hit the fan, because Prophets aren't just something of the past. Jesus and I have a lot in common, especially when it comes to telling people what they don't want to here. The souls caught in the bullshit will get their chance to change, but they'll be forced to live through worst times in human history. Do you know what a Messiah is, the true definition? The Messiah is a man of vast natural knowledge and truth, not obtainable by traditional methods of learning. He can see the Truth right through all lies, even when others can't. Jesus wasn't so much the Son of God, but we're all the son's of God. Your going to love winter of 2009, it's going to get interesting on this planet.

The three factions will be the Christian sect, it's strength will be the 10 kingdoms of Europe, all under the control of the English royal family. William is the True anti-Christ, his biblical name is the Red Dragon. The little deceiving war mongering little fuck that he is. The other adversary will be the leader of Iran. The deception of this man is taken lightly, his ultimate plans of using Russia and China's protectionism of Iranian oil to invade the state of Israel, seize the temple mount, and erect the symbol of Islam upon it. The temple mount is being unearthed now. War will break out across the globe.

Your going to love winter of 2009, it's going to get interesting on this planet.

While I'm curious about Prince William and the coming apocalypse in Winter '09, I fear this is edging along the lines of Conspiracy! material.

I mean, of all the baaaad mothers out there who could be appointed by Satan to wreak havoc upon the earth ... you really think William (http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/NOP/princewilliam.jpg) would be his posterboy?

LOL

I'll answer Obbe's post first.

God doesn't control, Satan does. God isn't letting or not letting anything happen, the choice is simple to whether you support a system of oppression and servitude, or you want to be a free soul. The system is imploding, and we need to pick our paths. Our time to make this choice is less than you'd think.

Just because a religious system teaches humility and emphasizing 'we' over 'me,' doesn't mean that they advocate being oppressed or servitude. If some people take power for selfish use, that does not mean that the prophet or other followers are also corrupt.

Cuban- I'm talking about a balance of physics and our affects upon the world, not between good and evil, cause those terms depend on semantics. An example is that we can be part of our ecosystem and understand it, or we can fuck up the planet. A system for perpetuating peace, or a system that breeds war. Good and Bad doesn't matter, it's your choice of which world you strive to create that does.

You said that the universe is a balancing act that we must maintain this balance. If you take the idea of balance, leaving both sides to equally influence, then living in peace or living in war (assuming they are opposites) would be 'out of balance.' Seems more likely you are arguing for an 'ideal' world and that negative action removes us from the 'ideal' world. Btw, people have lived with war/violence since.... ever, so it's fairly safe to assume we'll continue the trend. I'll even go as far as to say that times now are more peaceful than even a 1000 years ago.

P.S. 'balance of physics' has little to do with how we affect the planet and until you clarify your meaning, you appear to be linking 'balance of physics' with 'our affects(sic) upon the world,' then link that to peaceful and violent choices. Again, I see no connection if you are talking about physics. You then are arguing for balance of action, but yet argue for unbalanced action. So, yeah....?

Not sure what you mean by this,"I would disagree that people having a moreorless moral system of behavior makes us worse off. Continue..."

I'm saying, if I gave you a swift kick to the balls for no reason other than I wanted, you'd want to know why the fuck I did that. There is a right from wrong and we all know it. It's when we get to grey areas/selfish motives that people argue for moral relativism. Moral relativism is not an absolutism. There are still some universal wrongs/rights. So, yeah, I'm arguing for a standard ethic because it makes society more civil and safer for us all. Duh.

Find me a prophet that appeared as holy, that demanded his teachings become religion. Jesus hated religion, and constantly bitched out people in temples and called it corrupt. Yet a religion was born around his teachings, which makes no fucking sense at all. Jesus never told us how to act, but simply encouraged us to act in good nature. Prophets can be Holy and good, but their words can easily be twisted for controlling means. Money is control and power, and by surrendering it to the church, you surrender your control and power in the community. Jesus preached against this, and the only figure that supported annexing control and power was Satan. How many murders and wars have been paid for or supported by the vatican? Yeah, I'm sure that was Jesus' message of love and peace.

1. No one prophet has demanded a religion (well, actually look at cult leaders). Anyway, anyone telling you how to live is teaching and trying to start a 'religion' whether or not they knew it. When you tell someone that This Is The Way, and people believe and preach, there's a religion, a system of spiritual beliefs that are definite and not relativistic.

Oh, nearly forgot(not), Baha'ullah, Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Buddha, Joseph Smith, etc....

2. Jesus argued against complex, hierarchal religion whose leaders paid more attention to money and honors over the concerns of the people, not religion. Have you even read the Bible?

3. Jesus told people how to act all the time. Ever heard of parables? Ever heard of Mark 10:19? (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/10.html) Or Luke 10:25-28? (You can get a link, I'm sure.)

4. Jesus was against paying money to the church/state? Matt 17:24-27, and Mark 12:17

5. Jesus did promote love and peace (mostly until he turned over tables in the temple, hint: Total embodiment of love and peace...), but the Vatican is NOT Jesus, and so how can you confuse human deeds/interpretations with Jesus'? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

All Christians that donate to a church that tries to dictate human behavior is supporting control over the masses, even if that person does not support all of the messages the church portrays. If I donate money to a campaign to the Nazi party, but didn't support the holocaust, am I still not guilty for supporting their ability for genocide? I am aware that some churches don't support prohibition, but the general majority of churches do, and the ones that don't are small power players in the scheme of things. Name one mainstream church that has an anti-prohibition agenda?

Well, considering you don't have a time machine to go back and contribute, your point is moot. I personally wouldn't blame you if you were living at that time and made a donation. Hitler was a very charismatic speaker who rallied a people embarressed and in need of hope and pride, which fooled many people. Just because you were fooled because of propaganda and lies doesn't mean you deliberately supported or intended the end result. An unfortunate mistake, but not one that makes you a Jew-killing Nazi.

What does it matter if a church is 'mainstream' or not? You seem like you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to these religions in general, but now want only the 'mainstream' ones to be demonized. Pick your enemy and stick with it. Sure, there aren't 'mainstream' churches (that I found) who are anti-prohibition, but that doesn't prove your original idea that Jew/Xtian/Moslems are at the hands on Satanists. It means you want to throw punches at the 'mainstream' churches as being Satanists because they don't hold your views, but only when it serves you. Ever think you might be wrong?

The proof that Islam is controlling is proven by looking at their laws, punishments, suggested systems of governance, and oppression of the last 1300 years. Shit, you can be arrested for singing in public in Saudia Arabia. That's completely fair.

Again, you misinterpret country law with religious law (yes, i know they are a Muslim gov). And, again, you make pronouncements with no backing. In America, it's illegal in some places to give/receive oral sex. Does that mean Christians are controlling the government and Christianity is evil? No. It means that some people inspired by the teachings made that law in addition to other reasons, but the teachings are intact despite human interpretation and implementation of said interpretation. You can't confuse human action with spiritual truth.

By your definition of your beliefs, you are actually a true follower of Christs beliefs and teachings, and seem to know it in your heart what is right, and require no religion to tell you. You've already made the right choice, even if you won't recognize the Satanism around us. How do I know shit will hit the fan, because Prophets aren't just something of the past. Jesus and I have a lot in common, especially when it comes to telling people what they don't want to here. The souls caught in the bullshit will get their chance to change, but they'll be forced to live through worst times in human history. Do you know what a Messiah is, the true definition? The Messiah is a man of vast natural knowledge and truth, not obtainable by traditional methods of learning. He can see the Truth right through all lies, even when others can't. Jesus wasn't so much the Son of God, but we're all the son's of God. Your going to love winter of 2009, it's going to get interesting on this planet.

Yada, yada, yada... Prophets have been preaching end times since forever, and here we still are. Like Jesus! Mark 9:1

You aren't any different than any so-called prophet. You have grossly unwarranted self-importance because you think you see Satanism in relgion by the actions of men because you erringly associate the notion of 'infallibility' of religion with men, who are by nature imperfect.

My beliefs are not like Jesus':
1. I argue for inclusion over exclusion.
2. I don't believe he is the only path to 'heaven.'
3. I don't believe the End Times are upon us.
4. I don't claim absolute spiritual Truth.

Oh, and I can make vague, loose predictions on the future too. Something interesting will happen this fall that will shake up our country!

Or I could just say that an election will bring alot of political uneasiness as to the future of our country. Winter 2009 will see a new president take office and changes be made! How interesting!

Just because you hard-headedly misassociate imperfect human action as people accurately carrying out a message, then get a Messiah-complex because everyone tells you that you are wrong does not make you a Messiah. If you told the Truth, then surely you can back that up with better arguments than 'omg Crusades' and 'no singing, wtf?', perhaps you could understand. Maybe if you understood why conservative Moslems don't make pictures of actual things or sing, then you'd understand their reasoning, and not your own imperfect stance in relation to them. A real Messiah could back his shit up with convincing proof. You have only succeeded in proving that power has tended to corrupt human organizations.

PROTIP: Read more philosophy and religion before you try to speak from your high horse.

I take strong objection to many of OPs points. For openers, in my book, there is no such entity as Satan--it's a myth.

Ditto with the notion of judgement day. A loving God loves us unconditionally, without judgement.

Ditto with the notion of divine punishment--God loves, creates and sustains--he/she/it/them/whatever does not punish.

I take strong objection to many of OPs points. For openers, in my book, there is no such entitytas Satan--it's a myth.

Ditto with the notion of judgement day. A loving God loves us unconditionally, without judgement.

Ditto with the notion of divine punishment--God loves, creates and sustains--he/she/it/them/whatever does not punish.

Well... technically we're all just giving our opinions on this. I don't think that Satan (Lucifer is such a better name) is a myth... but rather he was just the first being to miss the mark.

But I also don't agree with you when you say God is a loving God. I believe God does love, but I don't think he is just a loving God. To box a creator into one personality seems foolish to me.

William is the True anti-Christ, his biblical name is the Red Dragon.

More and more these days, I wonder if the dragons in ancient myths are actually Reptilian aliens....

Islam. Islam law is very unjust, lacks complete balance, is full of all kinds of stupid rules of control, and requires you to submit before what they believe is God, but really is Satan. Islam also supports totalitarian control over the masses, and that the masses must surrender their free will or face punishment, usually death or dismemberment.

Lolwut?

The Irony of people pointing out the 'control' of a religion when their own pseudo-religion is made up of other people's random thoughts and notions is quite humourous.

Cuban has torn this up, my post would be pointless.

Well done.

despite all your anti-religious rhetoric,your conspiracy idea's about prince william being satan, 10 kingdoms of europe blah blah blah is something also parroted by certain fundamentalist protestant sects.

basically you're crazy :)

Buddhism is just as bad as the monotheistic religions.

I suspect that OP has a lot of Libra in his natal chart. (Not that there's anything wriong with that--I'm a double Libra myself.)

But IMHO, balance in nature is merely a concept--it just does not exist. Nature is in a constant state of flux, and is "controlled" not by an entity, but by natural laws.

Armsmerchant- I agree with you that things are constantly in flux. However, when you talk of religion, there isn't much flux going on, is there?

I'd say the universe does function along natural laws, but I'd also say that God is simply natural function. That's my point, that religion is trying to control natural function. I simply believe in a "Supreme Being".


AngryFemme- William, because he will soon be king of the largest estate in the world. He has the most reasons to control the world, and with coming turmoil, he has a vested interest in doing so. Oil will hit $200 per barrel before 2009, what do you think the impact on the global marketplace will be? Starving people will kill for little reason. This era is coming to an End and it's going to be bad.

....saving space.....

people should really study organized religions before they talk shit about them

AngryFemme- William, because he will soon be king of the largest estate in the world. He has the most reasons to control the world, and with coming turmoil, he has a vested interest in doing so. Oil will hit $200 per barrel before 2009, what do you think the impact on the global marketplace will be? Starving people will kill for little reason. This era is coming to an End and it's going to be bad.

Let's cut our boy Billy some slack here. While I realize the old adage "absolute power corrupts absolutely" can apply here, it's a bit unfair to place William in alliance with Evil just because he was born into wealth and power. His responsibility will be great, no doubt, and what he does during his reign will certainly make or break the ass-end of this era. But the "deceiving war-mongering little fuck" (as you so paint him) shouldn't be boxed into a Beelzebub Bracket before his reign even begins.

Armsmerchant- I agree with you that things are constantly in flux. However, when you talk of religion, there isn't much flux going on, is there?

I'd say the universe does function along natural laws, but I'd also say that God is simply natural function. That's my point, that religion is trying to control natural function. I simply believe in a "Supreme Being".

Hey, not addressed to me, but what the fuck, yeah?

Religion fluxes if you mean human interpretation of them. If you mean the actual teachings, you can't know for sure because everyone has an opinion and only some opinions are accepted into the 'mainstream' of the religion. So, say, when the reformation happened, the mainstream changed to include other interpretations and the interpretation has changed. As for how the teachings have changed, can you not suspect that there has been tampering with documents by humans over the centuries, especially when they were only available to the priest class?

AngryFemme- William, because he will soon be king of the largest estate in the world. He has the most reasons to control the world, and with coming turmoil, he has a vested interest in doing so. Oil will hit $200 per barrel before 2009, what do you think the impact on the global marketplace will be? Starving people will kill for little reason. This era is coming to an End and it's going to be bad.

Oil will hit $200 a barrel before the end of the year? Are you using some more of your Messiah powers? Btw, starving people can't, by definition, kill the eating people off. Why? THEY'RE FUCKING STARVING!!! As for WMD's, maybe that's a realistic possibility, but I highly doubt it. I'll need someone to back me up, but ICBM's aren't that widespread a technology, especially where people are starving. Africa? Nope. Southeast asia (besides China)? Nope.

If you mean non-missile WMDs, I doubt that starvers are going to be able to smuggle in dirty bombs to hand deliver them to developed countries.

The starving are poor, uneducated citizens in dictatorial countries. They have neither the education or ability to strike far. They will kill each other, not us. Starving people cannot raise an army because they don't have money. If they had money for an army, they'd have money for food first. Jeezus!