I found out recently that I may be dying, from a cancer I caused myself. I was a religious person, a long time ago. today I brought out all of my religious texts, I have the bible, the quran, the upanishads, the gita, the book of mormon, even the hymns of zoroaster. I need to make sense of what will happen to me, and I need to do it soon. I am scared to death as to what will happen when I go! I can't think of any one view of the next life. I also have been involved in psychadelic drugs. I can't help but think that death will be the ultimate trip, I associate death with the experiences I have had, although I know it wont be that way. I am losing my mind, and my family is losing patience with me at this important time. I know the view of the afterlife most religions have, but I would like to hear personal opinions. I am open to annything right now. I have given up, and am just waiting for the end. What in your personal view will happen to me when that day (closer than I imagined) comes?

What in your personal view will happen to me when that day (closer than I imagined) comes?

Something you are unable to know. As such, our personal opinions/beliefs on the subject don't matter as much as your own. Or the various religious texts you've collected. They can provide you with different possibilities, different ideas which you may choose to consider, but in the end no outside source can provide an answer.

So don't worry about it. Enjoy what time remains of your life. Make it good.

Personally, I'd say take this time to make yourself happy. Don't give a fuck what other people say. just do it.

but once that day does come, I think you won't realize what happened. You'll be in a dream that you can't wake up from. Where you can't read the time and everything looks a bit fuzzy. And you'll, finally, be able to lucid dream.

First of all, chill. Okay, maybe not the best choice of words. . .

Anyway, you need to know that you have nothing to fear--fear is, in fact, our only enemy.

I subscribe to the growing schoool of thought which posits that free will is absolute--even up to death. Not that we really die, ever. Our essential self, our soul, is immutable, eternal, immortal. You will not die until you are ready.

Oh, and I strongly suggest you add Power, Freedom and Grace (by Deepak Chopra) to your reading list.

I found out recently that I may be dying, from a cancer I caused myself. I was a religious person, a long time ago. today I brought out all of my religious texts, I have the bible, the quran, the upanishads, the gita, the book of mormon, even the hymns of zoroaster. I need to make sense of what will happen to me, and I need to do it soon. I am scared to death as to what will happen when I go! I can't think of any one view of the next life. I also have been involved in psychadelic drugs. I can't help but think that death will be the ultimate trip, I associate death with the experiences I have had, although I know it wont be that way. I am losing my mind, and my family is losing patience with me at this important time. I know the view of the afterlife most religions have, but I would like to hear personal opinions. I am open to annything right now. I have given up, and am just waiting for the end. What in your personal view will happen to me when that day (closer than I imagined) comes?

If you're looking for a religion (rules of regulations and laws) to obey so that you can ease your mind, and perhaps think that you're good enough to enter into heaven. I can't give you one.

It's a sad thing that men have to be driven to the result of sin before seeking freedom from the wages of sin, which is death.

Dad Hagin, (Kenneth E. Hagin) went to a hospital to pray for a man he knew. When He went to lay hands on him, for God to raise him up, which He would have, the Spirit of God said, "Don't! This man is closer to me now, than he's ever been before."

If you're looking for redemption. I can point you to the Way. His name is Jesus, and if you call on His name in FAITH, believeing that He will save you from not just you sin, but the wages of your sin. He'll do that. He'll give you confidence, where there was once condemnation from sin. He'll bring life reigning through righteousness, where death once reigned through sin. It seems as if you've tried everything, and no set of laws and regulations have helped you feel ok. You feel as if "something's wrong".

If you 'try' Christ, it's not going to work. You're going to have to give yourself completely over to Him, and let him work on you from the inside out. Read the Word let Him show you who you are without Him, and who you are in Him. What He does when He comes into your heart. He completely transforms you. You become a new creation. Man, SPIRIT, with a Soul-Mind will and emotions, in Flesh. You can't earn this though. You can't be good enough to have this. You have to believe with all your might heart soul and body. You have to make yourself believe even when your body symptoms are strong. You have to stand on HIS WORD and declare HIS Word in YOUR LIFE. Because He can't declare if in your life for you, but once you do it, He can perform His Word in your life because you believe.

Look up healing scriptures in the HOLY BIBLE. SPEAK THEM DAILY.

There was a young man, who went up to an older man and said, "Sir, How can I get the success that you have?" The man said, "Son, follow me out into the water." The water got deep, and he grabbed the young man, held him under, while the boy began to struggle and fight in an attempt to break loose. He thought, "This man is trying to drown me." The boy finally broke loose. When he did, the old man said, "When you want success as bad as you wanted that last breath, you'll have it."

I would like to suggest Romans CHAPTERS 5-10, and ask God for an understanding hear, praying in the name of Jesus Christ.

Keeping in mind there's nothing we can do to earn what He's given the World. His Son, and sonship to all who BELIEVE. That means to be a KING, a CHILD of God in THIS life. What you allow, it is. What you don't allow, it isn't. But you have to break beyond unbelief, until it becomes real to you. How bad do you want it?

I can't help but think that death will be the ultimate trip, I associate death with the experiences I have had, although I know it wont be that way. I am losing my mind, and my family is losing patience with me at this important time. I know the view of the afterlife most religions have, but I would like to hear personal opinions. I am open to annything right now. I have given up, and am just waiting for the end. What in your personal view will happen to me when that day (closer than I imagined) comes?

What dies? No energy is lost. Sure the material body is absorbed back into the earth from where it came, but am I my body?

What begins a thought? Science can identify the pathways of thought as electrical activity, but what starts that thought? Does one atom nudge another? What would cause that?

You will remember from Hindu teachings that we have a causal and astral body as well as a physical body. Thought originates in that causal dimension which is no further than the experience of awareness and presence remaining asfter thought is stopped. Have you read the Tibetan book of living and Dying? Their philosophy is close to what is observed by brain researchers investigating NDE's.

From many teachers I have gathered that it is essential to practise, and experience, that state of awareness of no thought, emptiness -- in order that at the point of death, one is clear minded. Contrast that state with one of panic and fear because you are "scared to death as to what will happen".

The method I have found most helpful was taught by Krishnamurti who said that meditation was no more, or less, than concentration on each present moment. To achieve a clear minded state focus on your breathing and your senses. See, taste, touch, feel, smell all in the present moment and don't forget your sixth sense which is your mind and it's thoughts observe them as well! Persistent negative thoughts may be dispelled with a mantra such as "Infinite love and gratitude" or 'Om Mani Padme Hung'. The state may best be described as being the 'presence', a state of total awareness of all those sensory inputs that actually silences thought.

The Buddhist teachings of the Tibetans is that each of us needs to achieve this state of mind. That it is imperative for all humans who know not the hour or manner of their death ot be so prepared. In Buddhist teaching a clear minded state allowed fredom from the karmic consequences of our desires and aversions including the desire to continue to live, desires that are primary causal factors in determining our future existence to either be reborn or to remain in spirit/nirvana.

A lot of that is speculative to me but I do see the value of cultivating that higher state of awareness and choosing to see life as "the ultimate trip" and the death of the body as no more significant than it's birth. What happened before birth? Why is the question always about what happens after death? Surely one returns to a similar state?

I hope, at the point of death, both you and I, are able to take courage and achieve a neutral, clear, mindset; and willingly accept there is reason for death. Love of life our karmic impulse, we will joyously find the peace of awareness, being fully awake, totally alive to each moment.

Cheers:)

Nobody gets out alive.

If religion concerns you and whether or not you will go to heaven or hell, might I suggest a deathbed confession?

All I can say is wow! I thank you for all of your posts, and your help. they have been great to me. I am in a state of awe these days. I can look at flies landing on my shoulder, and be amazed, I never thought it would come to this! I always thought I would die an old man in a nursing home. Everything is so amazing, but tragic at the same time. I remember leaving summer camp as a kid, and having to say goodbye to all of the freinds I had met. It feels like this but in a universal sense. This is something more, I have to say goodbye to the state of being I am currently in, and everything I have experienced. I don't know what I need to do, but I am plagued with crazy thoughts. I just need to know if these thoughts are as crazy as I think. first off, I started to think about extraterestrial life, and how it is on other planets. Then I started to think about who created them? I soon moved on to the infinite space around us, and what could be out there. What created all of this? religion or not, where did this come from? I thought about the fact that all of this could be a tiny atom in a greater being's fingernail (animal house jokes aside). Then I thought about not only that, but what is going on in the universe to create something like us. What created us? Where are we from, no matter what, even if there are aliens out in space, what created the universe? What is the source of being? I wonder what created us all, and where it came from, it blows my mind. What is the source of all life and conciousness? Then I thought about the spiritual life, and where it came from, I just sit for hours and wonder what is the source of life (religions aside). It is incredible what happens when you are faced with certian death! I am sorry if I don't make sense, Like it or not I am about to go, and I am having some fucked up thoughts, sorry if the post doesnt make sense. I hope to follow up on this I have a few months to do so.

Then I started to think about who created them?
Who created the creator? Some questions are no use.
I soon moved on to the infinite space around us, and what could be out there. What created all of this? religion or not, where did this come from? I thought about the fact that all of this could be a tiny atom in a greater being's fingernail (animal house jokes aside). Then I thought about not only that, but what is going on in the universe to create something like us. What created us? Where are we from, no matter what, even if there are aliens out in space, what created the universe? What is the source of being? I wonder what created us all, and where it came from, it blows my mind. What is the source of all life and conciousness?

All of your questions suggest you have the common preconception that all this was created, that it had a beginning. What if it did not?

Then I thought about the spiritual life, and where it came from, I just sit for hours and wonder what is the source of life (religions aside). It is incredible what happens when you are faced with certian death! I am sorry if I don't make sense, Like it or not I am about to go, and I am having some fucked up thoughts, sorry if the post doesnt make sense. I hope to follow up on this I have a few months to do so.

A "source" suggests a beginning. Abiogenesis is the scientific law that "Life only comes from life"! The evidence supports an alternative view -- Life is eternal. Are you your body or the life within? Are you alive? Is life something you have or something you are?

Namaste:)

All I can say is wow! I thank you for all of your posts, and your help. they have been great to me. I am in a state of awe these days. I can look at flies landing on my shoulder, and be amazed, I never thought it would come to this! I always thought I would die an old man in a nursing home. Everything is so amazing, but tragic at the same time. I remember leaving summer camp as a kid, and having to say goodbye to all of the freinds I had met. It feels like this but in a universal sense. This is something more, I have to say goodbye to the state of being I am currently in, and everything I have experienced. I don't know what I need to do, but I am plagued with crazy thoughts. I just need to know if these thoughts are as crazy as I think. first off, I started to think about extraterestrial life, and how it is on other planets. Then I started to think about who created them? I soon moved on to the infinite space around us, and what could be out there. What created all of this? religion or not, where did this come from? I thought about the fact that all of this could be a tiny atom in a greater being's fingernail (animal house jokes aside). Then I thought about not only that, but what is going on in the universe to create something like us. What created us? Where are we from, no matter what, even if there are aliens out in space, what created the universe? What is the source of being? I wonder what created us all, and where it came from, it blows my mind. What is the source of all life and conciousness? Then I thought about the spiritual life, and where it came from, I just sit for hours and wonder what is the source of life (religions aside). It is incredible what happens when you are faced with certian death! I am sorry if I don't make sense, Like it or not I am about to go, and I am having some fucked up thoughts, sorry if the post doesnt make sense. I hope to follow up on this I have a few months to do so.

Please read Ecclesiastes. Solomon in his old age found Himself thinking the same things.

Little bit about Him. His Father was David. Solomon was faced with the same temptations as David.. Women. He married SEVERAL hundred wives, and was warned not to. He was a Jew. He married women from other nations. The reason He was warned not to was because they would turn His heart from God, and they did just that. BUT, He found His solace in the same truth He was raised with, by his Father, David, a man after God's own heart. Solomon was also known as the man who requested wisdom from God, and with all the wisdom God gave Him God blessed Him with riches beyond the ability to count. This man, to the natural stand point had EVERYTHING. Money, and anything money could bring to him. People sought HIM out to get HIS advice.. and He gave them WISE instruction. But.. He found himself in the same situation you're in now. QUESTIONS OF LIFE.. and death. The purpose..

I think this book would benefit and help you alot.

I don't know you, but I love you.
-Shelly

Freaker, think about this too. I'm sure you have before.

All man is, is breath.. Once the breath is gone out of a man's body. That's it. He's gone. RIGHT NOW. My friend, you're still breathing. RIGHT NOW. You're LIVING. Right now, is what counts. Every moment, each of us are a moment closer to death. Some of us choose to live a life of death to self. Those who die to themselves, their will, emotions, thoughts, and take up Christ's.. Will find their lives in HIM, but those who cling to their life now, will lose it then. Perhaps there is still breath in your body, because you have a decision to make, and a story to tell. I'm just waiting on YOU to get started.

Love you.
-Shelly

"The scum of the Earth wail and tremble as they face death. We laugh, spitting with contempt, thus do we learn how to live."
-The Unsacred Texts of the Koton

"Do on then, I pray thee, fast. Look now forwards and let be backwards; and see what thee faileth, and not what thou hast, for that is the readiest getting and keeping of meekness. All thy life now behoveth altogether to stand in desire, if thou shalt profit in degree of perfection. This desire behoveth altogether be wrought in thy will, by the hand of Almighty God and thy consent."

The Cloud of Unknowing (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous2/cloud.viii.html)
Chapter two: A short stirring to meekness, and to the work of this book.

were all dying, its just happening to you faster than some (not even most)

You will get to see Jesus and if you haven't believed in him and asked him to forgive you of your sins he will send you to hell for them.

I found out recently that I may be dying, from a cancer I caused myself. I was a religious person, a long time ago. today I brought out all of my religious texts, I have the bible, the quran, the upanishads, the gita, the book of mormon, even the hymns of zoroaster. I need to make sense of what will happen to me, and I need to do it soon. I am scared to death as to what will happen when I go! I can't think of any one view of the next life. I also have been involved in psychadelic drugs. I can't help but think that death will be the ultimate trip, I associate death with the experiences I have had, although I know it wont be that way. I am losing my mind, and my family is losing patience with me at this important time. I know the view of the afterlife most religions have, but I would like to hear personal opinions. I am open to annything right now. I have given up, and am just waiting for the end. What in your personal view will happen to me when that day (closer than I imagined) comes?

Something does not add up in this post. "I found out recently that I may be dying, from a cancer I caused myself."

First off, get a full body check at a good hospital. People aren't "maybe terminal". Doctors will tell you if you are terminal or might be cured. Second, I don't believe in the afterlife myself. I believe that we are a temporary consistancy of molecules that happen to be so complex we can fool ourselves into thinking there might be higher purposes or heavens and hells and such. The very reason we don't know the anwser is because, however we are very smart, we aren' t smart enough to know the real anwser. Thus we speculate.

1. See doctor
2. Get checked what you have/don't have,etc.
3. If terminal, think about if you want to still be alive when you get really sick.

dying is easy...just think about it being the end to all ur worries and other bullshit..

i believe when we die, nothing happens.......try thinking of before you were born. Everyone still lived while you were not alive and they will continue to do so...my advice would be to relax and dont act scared...people will think your a bitch and you cant change their mind when your gone.

One of my favorite quotes regarding fear of death:
"Why should I fear death?
If I am, death is not.
If death is, I am not.
Why should I fear that which cannot exist when I do?"
- Epicurus

I don't believe in the afterlife because of the lack of evidence for it. However, I think people who do believe in such a thing have sorely misnamed it. If we do, after this life, transcend into an ethereal form and live forever, that would end up constituting 99.999(infinite 9s)% of our actual existence. If a person believed in such a thing, it would be much more reasonable to label this lifespan as one's "pre-life" and the following eternity as a spiritual being as "life" itself. So that when you "die" here on earth in the "pre-life", you've actually just started living. :eek:

Listen buddy, you just need to live. Don't worry about dying. Don't think that you got the short end of the stick or you have to face this alone. We are all going to die, what happens after we die? I don't know. No point in wasting the last bit of your life worrying about what will happen because you're not going to know that you're dead when you do pass. Just live.

OP listen to this:

www.sinesthesia.com/breathinside.mp3

I personally believe no matter what you did dude......as long as you wernt killing others or having sex with babies you should be fine. It probally will be the ultamite trip. Perhaps some Tao wisdom could help you.


-There once was a mighty general who had travled the world fighting many wars. He stumbled upon a temple one day and had some questions for the master inside. As he approached the master he asked....

"Master, i have fought in many wars and have seen many die, i caint help but wonder about death and wish to know if there is a heaven or hell"

The master looked at the general and knew he was talking about places of eternal torment or eternal bliss......however he didnt want to confuse him, he replied as he burst out laughing.....

"GENERAL! Who in their right mind would make you a general! you look more like a butcher to me!"

Enraged by this remark the general was filled with embarassment, hate, and anger......he drew out his sword and charged at the monk, ready to strike him down with 1 blow, before he was about to swing the Master replied

"Here lies the gates of hell"

confused for a moment the general stood there but then realised that the monk risked his own life to teach him such a powerful lesson, he was filled with remorse, sorrow, and was grateful for what he had done. Then the Master replied

"Here lies the gates of heaven"




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Not really a story you would see on totse but hope it provides something.

Personally, I'd say take this time to make yourself happy. Don't give a fuck what other people say. just do it.

but once that day does come, I think you won't realize what happened. You'll be in a dream that you can't wake up from. Where you can't read the time and everything looks a bit fuzzy. And you'll, finally, be able to lucid dream.

Kind of like "Waking Life"?

That would be good. Although now that I think about it, any way of eternal "life", dream or not, creeps me out. Strange, it used to appeal to me.

Now would be the perfect opportunity to test the power of prayer.

When that doesn't work, put your hope in medical science.

If that doesn't work, deathbed confession just in case.

Now would be the perfect opportunity to test the power of prayer.

When that doesn't work, put your hope in medical science.

If that doesn't work, deathbed confession just in case.

I'd go with medical science to start with and the say a prayer that it works. If that fails, deathbed confession just in case indeed.

"You dream of a desert, where mirages are your rulers and your tormentors, yet these images come from you.

Father did not make the desert, and your home is still with him.

To return, forgive your brother, for only then do you forgive yourself."

"Fortunate are those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."





Read "The disappearance of the universe" great book.

There is no such thing as death, it's all a trick your body doesn't exist and we are creating our own reality. It's all a dream. J understood this.

Read your BIBLE, Your Christian bible.

I suggest you pick it up, make a sincere prayer to God and then open it at random.
Pray that God will guide the pages. Start reading here.

The read the Gospel of John (4th book of the new Testament) and then Romans.

Pray for healing, read your bible regularly, have faith and be obedient to Gods word and Live.

Join a church.

I suggest you pick it up, make a sincere prayer to God and then open it at random.
Pray that God will guide the pages. Start reading here.

Hahahahahaha!!
He'll probably end up on a page full of "begat"s or laws about how you're not supposed to eat shellfish or fuck chicks on their periods.

Way to waste a guy's time when he doesn't have much left...

OP, if you only have a few months left, do you really want to spend the time reading? Religious stuff, at that? I know I wouldn't, but then again I'm not a religious person. I gather you aren't either, since you said 'upon a time' you were. If you only have a few months left, I say party your ass off. Party like you only have a few months left. Go skydiving. Do all the shit you've always wanted to do but never had time to, because it really could be now or never. Go see the world.

And if you want to read, I'd recommend Brian Lumley's Necroscope series, all 13 books. A long read, but you have time. Best mental ride I ever went on. At the very least, it'll take your mind off what's coming for a while. Those books do put a pretty neat spin on the afterlife too.

OP, reading you will enjoy:

Crossing the Bar - Tennyson

Holy Sonnet 6 - Donne

When I Have Fears I May Cease To Be - Keats

Ode to a Nightengale - Keats

Prospice - Browning


You'll enjoy all these... if you need help interpreting them, use the internet or you can ask me. I know that if I was in your position I'd be reading this stuff as well as doing whatever I've ever wanted to do. For some the inevitable comes early, but it will come to us all eventually. What is interesting is that Keats was in your position, with tuburculosis instead though.
Hope this helps.

-Cordova.