Im thinking of joining when i turn 18.any ideas of what i should expect?

Well, what are you thinking about doing in the Air Force?

c130 crew or something in that area.

Heheh. Take a look at the Air Force Specialty Codes. Theyre basically codes for jobs. Look through them and find something specific that you're into.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforceenlistedjobs/a/afjobs.htm

I'll tell you right now, you'll get two polar worlds when you're in. One from people calling you baby killers, the other from people thanking you for serving. The latter has a tendency to buy you drinks.

You'll be in an organized environment, getting good support from those you work with, and have people who will work to take care of you.

You'll also be getting the new ABU uniform. Lucky bastard. I had to shine my black leather boots when I was in basic.

I cant come up with much off the top of my head at the moment, but take a look at that link there and find some jobs you might be interested in.

Go talk to a recruiter. In the Air Force, you could be waiting a year to ship to basic. The sooner you sign the papers, take the ASVAB and physical, and swear in, the shorter the wait.

I personally believe the Air Force is the best branch to join (at least for me it was). You're treated a lot better, we have the best facilities, good training, and pretty much all jobs require at least a secret security clearance (worth its weight in gold, when you're a civilian).

Unless you like noise and very bumpy rides, C-130's aren't to fun to fly on. C-17's are awesome.

I'd advise against talking to a recruiter.

If you must, get some information, then come back and we'll give you the straight and narrow, but keep in mind that recruiters are evil. :]

I'd advise against talking to a recruiter.

If you must, get some information, then come back and we'll give you the straight and narrow, but keep in mind that recruiters are evil. :]

Not all recruiters are evil. I've never meet any dirtbag recruiters. You just need to be willing to inform yourself, rather than taking solely the recruiters word for something. Either way, the OP is going to have to see a recruiter. If joining the AF is something you really want to do, it's best to get the process started ASAP, unless you don't mind waiting up to a year.

Not all recruiters are evil. I've never meet any dirtbag recruiters. You just need to be willing to inform yourself, rather than taking solely the recruiters word for something. Either way, the OP is going to have to see a recruiter. If joining the AF is something you really want to do, it's best to get the process started ASAP, unless you don't mind waiting up to a year.

I'm not going to stay that all recruiters are evil. I will say, however, that the majority are there to meet a quota.

And yes, you're going to have to talk to one to get in. But question all the advice they give you. Believe me... if it's "too good to be true," there's no "probably" involved. It is too good to be true.

Thanks everyone youv'e all been very helpful.:)

For the love of Christ, if you ever end up dropping bombs on people, just do a better job of it than these two stunned cunts. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/07/iraq.military)

For the love of Christ, if you ever end up dropping bombs on people, just do a better job of it than these two stunned cunts. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/07/iraq.military)

I don't want to derail this thread, and I mean this in the least offensive way possible. You are a terrible moderator.

You are a terrible moderator.

Stop being such a tease and explain yourself.

Sorry, no recruiting...

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2128111#2

Sorry, no recruiting...

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2128111#2

I don't see anything in the way of "Recruiting". There are some advising this poor lad on what to do.

I don't see anything in the way of "Recruiting". There are some advising this poor lad on what to do.


really?


Go talk to a recruiter.

By the way Captain Kaboom you should sign up. You ability to not read shit will be an asset to the glorious machine...

By the way Captain Kaboom you should sign up. You ability to not read shit will be an asset to the glorious machine...

I should? Hmm...I'll think about it.

Telling someone to go speak with a recruiter is like telling them to go search something on the internet - they may get general information laced with lots of not-so-true information. However, it is up to the one inquiring to siphon through the garbage to get the facts straight.

I don't believe it possible to get in without seeing a recruiter. It's like trying to go to the bathroom via a living room wall.

I should? Hmm...I'll think about it.

Telling someone to go speak with a recruiter is like telling them to go search something on the internet - they may get general information laced with lots of not-so-true information. However, it is up to the one inquiring to siphon through the garbage to get the facts straight.

I don't believe it possible to get in without seeing a recruiter. It's like trying to go to the bathroom via a living room wall.

It's not the same, it's like saying searching for porn on the internet is the same as going to a hooker... Recruiters get paid to enlist, telling someone to go to a recruiter is recruiting... Particularly when you read the rest of the quote that says sign the papers ASAP!

Go talk to a recruiter. In the Air Force, you could be waiting a year to ship to basic. The sooner you sign the papers, take the ASVAB and physical, and swear in, the shorter the wait.




Now, should he return from said recruiter with only information like you said. He is offered help to filter through the garbage to get the best position that suits him in the military... That's what a recruiter DOES!

If you must, get some information, then come back and we'll give you the straight and narrow





I'm not against people recruiting on totse. After all, we all know that is the only reason for this forum... I'm just pointing out the irony...

It's not the same, it's like saying searching for porn on the internet is the same as going to a hooker... Recruiters get paid to enlist, telling someone to go to a recruiter is recruiting... Particularly when you read the rest of the quote that says sign the papers ASAP!


Er, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the definition of the words "recruiter" and "recruitment".

"A recruiter is someone engaging in recruitment, which is the solicitation of individuals to fill jobs or positions within any group, such as a corporation or sports team."

"Recruitment refers to the process of sourcing, screening, and selecting people for a job or vacancy within an organization."

Recommending someone to see a recruiter is NOT recruiting. That thread you linked to IS recruiting, because it is soliciting individuals to join his cause, and screening them in his other thread, to delegate duties. He even declared that he was recruiting, in that thread.

The OP came to us, and asked us for information on the Air Force, because he is interested in joining. If you want to join any branch of the military, you HAVE to see a recruiter. I simply suggested that he sees a recruiter, in response to his interest.



Now, should he return from said recruiter with only information like you said. He is offered help to filter through the garbage to get the best position that suits him in the military... That's what a recruiter DOES!


You are mistaken there. A recruiter does not help the individual find the best job for himself, a recruiter matches the individual to a job according to the organizations needs, and the individuals capabilities. "filtering through the garbage" is the job of the individual. The individual can seek assistance from the recruiter, and the recruiter will normally offer it. Or the individual can seek help from others, who are not involved in recruiting, much like the individual who started this thread.

Are ok, thanks for clearing that up...

you know i only asked here so i could get some info from people that have actualy been in it before i talk to a recruiter.

It's not the same, it's like saying searching for porn on the internet is the same as going to a hooker... Recruiters get paid to enlist, telling someone to go to a recruiter is recruiting... Particularly when you read the rest of the quote that says sign the papers ASAP!






Now, should he return from said recruiter with only information like you said. He is offered help to filter through the garbage to get the best position that suits him in the military... That's what a recruiter DOES!



No, I said that it was up to the one inquiring to sort it out. Should he ask for help from us, it will be on his own free will.

Besides, the Air Force as it is now isn't looking to take just anybody that walks in the door. It costs a shit-load of tax-payer cabbage to send an individual through Lackland for 6.5 weeks (Soon to be 8.5) and THEN through tech school for possibly much longer. They want individuals that have the potential to become experts, managers, LEADERS - and be shit-hot in it. So even if the recruiters zoom in on a possible prospect, they can only go as far as their own superiors (and ESPECIALLY the individual) allow them to go.


I had my dad (Once an SP like Xip) present at all times while I listened and signed the paperwork. The guy didn't like it, but he got his and I got mine. My dad didn't even like the idea of me joining given the current situation overseas, but he made damn sure to keep things in check, and at an 8th grade reading level.

Here's the good news:

As AF Enlisted you can expect:

A high expectation of living on base.
Borderline restaurant quality cooking daily

And now, for the downside:
There's a reasonable chance you'll be in for 8 - 10 years and still be E-5!

Air Force doesn't promote worth shit!

Air Force doesn't promote worth shit!

The Marine Corps is expanding it's active duty force, dealing with huge amounts of turnover due to the GWOT, and lowering it's recruitment standards.

Partly why I am joining(and the only reason I considered the Army) was the new environment would be a great way to get noticed if you are intelligent and capable.

Don't be a crew chief unless you like to have shitty jobs.

I'm a C-130H mechanic currently stationed at Yokota AB, Japan. I work as a fuel systems apprentice. Don't do mechanics, it's not fun. Especially with the T.O.'s...

Hit me up on myspace if you have more questions. myspace.com/foodstamp916

The Marine Corps is expanding it's active duty force, dealing with huge amounts of turnover due to the GWOT, and lowering it's recruitment standards.

Global War On Terror?

That description of the fuck-up in Iraq (Al Qaeda wasn't even active there prior to the US led invasion) and Afghanistan, is just a replusive attempt by Bush to make his little campaign in the Middle East as inclusive as possible; it's bogeyman politics at its finest.

Please, don't promote his agenda by using his false description.

Partly why I am joining(and the only reason I considered the Army) was the new environment would be a great way to get noticed if you are intelligent and capable.

So basically you're joinging in the hopes you'll stand out from the growing crowd of retards that now pass as the US infantry? Well I seriously hope your plan doesn't implode spectacularly, when one of those low-quality recruits gets you maimed or killed.

Please, don't promote his agenda by using his false description.

It's a very quick way to get everyone to know exactly what you are talking about. I realize his war really isn't against terrorism, but I also see no problem using that description. Kind of like calling a group "secret police". Yes, that phrase can be used as a political weapon, but it is also a phrase immediately recognized and defined.

So basically you're joinging in the hopes you'll stand out from the growing crowd of retards that now pass as the US infantry?

Yes.

Well I seriously hope your plan doesn't implode spectacularly, when one of those low-quality recruits gets you maimed or killed.

"Take calculated risks. That is quite different from being rash." George S. Patton

"Take calculated risks. That is quite different from being rash." George S. Patton

I take it then that you've precisley calculated the number of subnormal recruits you'll be serving with then, and the subsequent improvement of your odds of promotion, relative to other military services?

I take it then that you've precisley calculated the number of subnormal recruits you'll be serving with then, and the subsequent improvement of your odds of promotion, relative to other military services?

I could do without the condescending rhetorical questions. I have taken into account the number of sub-standard recruits I will have to do better than, and I find the numbers acceptable. Naturally, this wasn't "precise". It is important to remember though that this was a relatively minor factor in considering what branch to join, as there were factors more important to me. If I had solely considered "standing out" from substandard recruits, I would have joined the U.S. Army, as it has had extremely tough times meeting it's vast recruiting goals.