And she swore up and down that she wasn't cheating on you, but in fact was visited by an angel of God, and was told that she would be giving birth to the second incarnation of Jesus...

You wouldn't accuse her of cheating?

And if you would accuse her of cheating, then why the fuck would you believe the same exact lie being told 2000 years ago?

Yes they would.

They are Christians, are they not?

And if you would accuse her of cheating, then why the fuck would you believe the same exact lie being told 2000 years ago?

In Jesus' case it was prophesied centuries beforehand.

In Jesus' case it was prophesied centuries beforehand.

I thought that there were prophecies of a second coming...

Or, what if you came home one night and your girlfriend was peeling an apple. And what if your girlfriend was like, "Have a bite" ... and you were like: "No, I'm not hungry". And then she insists that you have a bite, and you really don't want one, but your girl won't STFU about you sharing the fruit with her.

So there you are, about to smack her around for being so annoying over a goddamned granny smith apple, and you go into the kitchen to get a beer, and when you return, she's sitting on the couch naked, mumbling to herself, and you're like: "What?" ... and she's like: "I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to a snake". - and then started in on you again about having a piece of that apple ...

Would you partake in eating the fruit, knowing that there's a good chance that the snake has coerced your otherwise level-headed girlfriend into tricking you into a lifetime of debauchery and hedonism?

Or, what if you came home one night and your girlfriend was peeling an apple. And what if your girlfriend was like, "Have a bite" ... and you were like: "No, I'm not hungry". And then she insists that you have a bite, and you really don't want one, but your girl won't STFU about you sharing the fruit with her.

So there you are, about to smack her around for being so annoying over a goddamned granny smith apple, and you go into the kitchen to get a beer, and when you return, she's sitting on the couch naked, mumbling to herself, and you're like: "What?" ... and she's like: "I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to a snake". - and then started in on you again about having a piece of that apple ...

Would you partake in eating the fruit, knowing that there's a good chance that the snake has coerced your otherwise level-headed girlfriend into tricking you into a lifetime of debauchery and hedonism?

I'd suggest she get a psychiatric evaluation...

Or I'd try to figure out what drug she's on, or might have been injected into that apple...

I thought that there were prophecies of a second coming...

There are, but they don't say anything about Jesus being born of a virgin again.

There are, but they don't say anything about Jesus being born of a virgin again.

So then you're saying that he has to return exactly as prophesied in order for you to believe it?

According to who's prophecy then? Which prophecies are valid and which are not?

Why do you believe Jesus over Mohammad, for example?

Or, what if you came home one night and your girlfriend was peeling an apple. And what if your girlfriend was like, "Have a bite" ... and you were like: "No, I'm not hungry". And then she insists that you have a bite, and you really don't want one, but your girl won't STFU about you sharing the fruit with her.

So there you are, about to smack her around for being so annoying over a goddamned granny smith apple, and you go into the kitchen to get a beer, and when you return, she's sitting on the couch naked, mumbling to herself, and you're like: "What?" ... and she's like: "I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to a snake". - and then started in on you again about having a piece of that apple ...

Would you partake in eating the fruit, knowing that there's a good chance that the snake has coerced your otherwise level-headed girlfriend into tricking you into a lifetime of debauchery and hedonism?

tHIS WAS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF READING I'VE HAD SO FAR TODAY.

So then you're saying that he has to return exactly as prophesied in order for you to believe it?

Yes, since he predicted there would be many impostors.

Matthew 24:5
"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."



According to who's prophecy then? Which prophecies are valid and which are not?

The prophecies of the Bible are valid because they are inspired by God.

II Timothy 3:16
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

The prophecies of the Bible are valid because they are inspired by God.

And how, exactly, do you know for sure that they are? What is the process of testing the validity of a claim purported to be "inspired by God"??

The prophecies of the Bible are valid because they are inspired by God.

Then your God is an epic failure. If you believe the bible to be the inspired word of God, then your God is false. He cannot exist as an infallible, omnipotent, omniscient being and inspire such a fallible, contradictory book.

Either the book is wrong, or your God is a lie.

It IS one or the other.

Which is it?

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And no, christians on average would believe their girlfriend cheated on them. I believe the vast majority of believers know in their heart that they put stock in a fantastical and very comforting lie.

They doubt b/c they know deep down the truth.

Your God is dead.

Then your God is an epic failure. If you believe the bible to be the inspired word of God, then your God is false. He cannot exist as an infallible, omnipotent, omniscient being and inspire such a fallible, contradictory book.

There are no contradictions or errors in the Bible.

Point out an alleged contradiction or error and I will refute it. :)

OP, The only people that believe anything about any religion are fuck ups and retards. Religion IS the source of all 'evil' and they're all as rediculios as each other.

I don't care if you're christian, jew, muslim, or w/e wake up and smell the roses, It's as real as santa, the easter bunny, the toothfairy and 72 virgin camels.

The prophecies of the Bible are valid because they are inspired by God.



UH HUH! And we know they were inspired by God because--they were in the BIBLE.

Sheesh--can you say "circular reasoning"?

haha, yeah I was bugged by these Jehovah's Witnesses the other day. I ask them "how do you know what is in the Bible is the actual word of god". The lady pulls out a Bible and shows me a passage which "proved" the validity of the book itself.

Point out an alleged contradiction or error and I will refute it. :)

"Hazor will become a haunt of jackals,
A desolation forever;
No one will live there,
Nor will a son of man reside in it."

-- Jeremiah 49:33


People live in Hazor, thus contradicting the claim/prophesy than no one will live there.

Or, what if you came home one night and your girlfriend was peeling an apple. And what if your girlfriend was like, "Have a bite" ... and you were like: "No, I'm not hungry". And then she insists that you have a bite, and you really don't want one, but your girl won't STFU about you sharing the fruit with her.

So there you are, about to smack her around for being so annoying over a goddamned granny smith apple, and you go into the kitchen to get a beer, and when you return, she's sitting on the couch naked, mumbling to herself, and you're like: "What?" ... and she's like: "I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to a snake". - and then started in on you again about having a piece of that apple ...

Would you partake in eating the fruit, knowing that there's a good chance that the snake has coerced your otherwise level-headed girlfriend into tricking you into a lifetime of debauchery and hedonism?

what! what kind of a blind god would not even know where adam was!

even Joseph didn't trust Mary was telling the truth when she told him. An angel had to come tell him.


So no, I would not trust my g/f if she told me. I would need angel to come down and tell me.

"Hazor will become a haunt of jackals,
A desolation forever;
No one will live there,
Nor will a son of man reside in it."

-- Jeremiah 49:33


People live in Hazor, thus contradicting the claim/prophesy than no one will live there.

No they do not, they live in a different area which they've given the same name. :rolleyes:

In Jesus' case it was prophesied centuries beforehand.

Yeah, that bitch said she was a virgin, but it doesn't make it so. The bone that was dug up which probably belonged to Jesus had 46 chromosomes.

tHIS WAS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF READING I'VE HAD SO FAR TODAY.

Thank you. It was the biggest waste of writing I've exercised in quite awhile. Glad we're on the same page.

what! what kind of a blind god would not even know where adam was!

For the sake of the story -
For all we know, God's in the know, observing from the sidelines, testing him to see if he'll think with his head or his loins.

No they do not, they live in a different area which they've given the same name. :rolleyes:

No, actually, the Bible gives us the general location of Hazor in Biblical times by the areas it references. For example, it mentions its in the vicinity of Kedar and it was part of the territory Nebuchadnezzar conquered in the Middle East. People live there in modern times.

Try again.

The cure for leprosy in the bible, was a pantload.

Smearing the blood of doves on your open sores is a bad idea and leads to many secondary infections.

The cure was brought to you thousands of years later by science, no God needed.

Two of every animal could not fit on Noah's little boat.

Giants are not real.
Dragons are not real.
Cockatrices are not real.

The Earth is over 6,000 years old. Dinosaurs and men did not live together.

If you really want to get into Rollover, we can. You trying to refute the bullshit assertions of your infallible book of jewish folklore will be very amusing.