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kurdt318
2008-06-01, 13:33
I'm not quite sure if "hallucination" is the proper word but, for lack of a better term thats what I'm going to use. Occasionally, after I've been meditating for a while and I start to transcend my body, I can very vividly "see" a "hallucination". Most of the time these "hallucinations" aren't in color, but one time I "saw" one and it was so real and tangible looking that I felt I could reach my hand out and touch it. The hallucination that occurs most often is an eye staring back at me. Not creepily staring but, very comfortably. I've also seen two people. If anyone else has experienced this feel free to share any insight and "hallucinations".
Vanhalla
2008-06-01, 22:24
I was on mushrooms a few days ago and I was laying down in the grass at the near by park while listening to the album Erpland by Ozric Tentacles. Alittle over an hour in to the experience I began to meditate, I'll try to convey into words what happened but this will barely scratch the surface.
As I sat up in the grass this feeling of absorption that has been gradually growing since my consumption has gone past mere bodily sensations and into the mind. Is this a glimpse into what mystics call the maya of separateness? Not only is this grass part of me now, but I can close my eyes and my mind is no longer just in my skull. It is everywhere.
Never mind, there really is no point in trying to describe this. I don't think it is possible.
When I'm not on mushrooms, I sometimes sense what I think may be my higher self or some type 4-6th density being. Its kind of like it's above me in this vast space that I can not begin to comprehend in my current form. It's like this physical plane is a prison, or more accurately a reformation center. And like prisons here on Earth, it only represents a small portion of the population. These other energy densities have many beings that reside there. And they try to help us in our evolution to these higher planes. And the more people who realize their existence, the more help we can receive on this plain.
Its really difficult to put into words
Maybe that is what the eye you see is?
kurdt318
2008-06-02, 02:15
As I sat up in the grass this feeling of absorption that has been gradually growing since my consumption has gone past mere bodily sensations and into the mind. Is this a glimpse into what mystics call the maya of separateness? Not only is this grass part of me now, but I can close my eyes and my mind is no longer just in my skull. It is everywhere.
I don't know exactly what you mean by "my mind is no longer just in my skull" but, to me I have definitely felt this experience. Awhile back I did this chakra meditation and after we had meditated for a good half hour we were asked to lick our ring finger and touch it to the middle of our forehead. I had really lost all notion of my body and found that the area I thought my mouth was, was actually about a foot to the right of my head.
ArmsMerchant
2008-06-02, 19:28
In my Belief System (BS for short), your mind is never just in your skull--it is non-local, which is why so-called astral travel is possible.
Vanhalla
2008-06-03, 00:02
In my Belief System (BS for short), your mind is never just in your skull--it is non-local, which is why so-called astral travel is possible.
I completely agree.
Except that mind always perceives things and separateness. But if that can be overcome, your soul--that is--a single drop of Spirit, can and does perceive reality how it really is.
Non-locality.
There is no such thing as a thing, that is all maya, there is only one thing, but it's not a thing, it just IS.
TrueBudSmoker
2008-06-04, 08:09
Who the fuck are you to say you understand reality?
and as I stare into infinity, I realize I see myself staring back at me, but what is reality? Our senses only go skin deep, as we decipher truth from fallacy, fact and lie co-existing simultaneously, but truth comes to light eventually, surfacing from soup of truth and deceit mixed homogeneously, mistaking what is fake for true identity,
Vanhalla
2008-06-04, 21:04
Who the fuck are you to say you understand reality?
I don't, I am still a confused little boy.
But I have gained glimpses of my drop as is joins once again into the ocean.
Some time after moments like that thoughts enter my mind, "I am ready to die."
However, much still needs be done before I am permanently reintegrated into that vast and seemingly endless fluid/light/consciousness.
TrueBudSmoker
2008-06-05, 02:51
I don't, I am still a confused little boy.
But I have gained glimpses of my drop as is joins once again into the ocean.
Some time after moments like that thoughts enter my mind, "I am ready to die."
However, much still needs be done before I am permanently reintegrated into that vast and seemingly endless fluid/light/consciousness.
Me a little boy? How old are you?
Vanhalla
2008-06-05, 04:25
Me a little boy? How old are you?
Why does that matter?
A misinterpretation I suppose.
ArmsMerchant
2008-06-05, 19:24
Why does that matter?.
Agreed. Age is irrelevant.
In some ways, I feel younger now than I did forty years ago.
TrueBudSmoker
2008-06-05, 22:33
Well I'm 6'6'' and I'm 19 so I'm hardly little.
Vanhalla
2008-06-06, 02:07
I was talking about myself, and how at times it seems like I'm a young child gazing over the edge of a cliff into infinitus.
I've only gained glimpses into ultimate Reality and am still a total n00b. But by connecting to and understanding my higherself, true knowledge will one day be attained, and that is my goal.
I was on mushrooms a few days ago and I was laying down in the grass at the near by park while listening to the album Erpland by Ozric Tentacles. Alittle over an hour in to the experience I began to meditate, I'll try to convey into words what happened but this will barely scratch the surface.
As I sat up in the grass this feeling of absorption that has been gradually growing since my consumption has gone past mere bodily sensations and into the mind. Is this a glimpse into what mystics call the maya of separateness? Not only is this grass part of me now, but I can close my eyes and my mind is no longer just in my skull. It is everywhere.
Never mind, there really is no point in trying to describe this. I don't think it is possible.
When I'm not on mushrooms, I sometimes sense what I think may be my higher self or some type 4-6th density being. Its kind of like it's above me in this vast space that I can not begin to comprehend in my current form. It's like this physical plane is a prison, or more accurately a reformation center. And like prisons here on Earth, it only represents a small portion of the population. These other energy densities have many beings that reside there. And they try to help us in our evolution to these higher planes. And the more people who realize their existence, the more help we can receive on this plain.
Its really difficult to put into words
Maybe that is what the eye you see is?
Dude. I got that exact same feeling while I was on salvia.
It was like I had a family on the other side. When I arrived, they immediatly asked if I had found it. I had no clue what they were asking for, or asking me about, and I started searching everywhere for it.
Maybe it is the other way around. We are here to learn/find a concept, to further the 'real' evolution on the other side.
I hope that makes sense :(
Vanhalla
2008-06-09, 02:18
Dude. I got that exact same feeling while I was on salvia.
It was like I had a family on the other side. When I arrived, they immediatly asked if I had found it. I had no clue what they were asking for, or asking me about, and I started searching everywhere for it.
Maybe it is the other way around. We are here to learn/find a concept, to further the 'real' evolution on the other side.
I hope that makes sense :(
Onetime, when I did a small extract of salvia, there was this voice outside of my frequency saying something to the effect of, "Now you get to ride the train." Rhythmically and repeatedly over and over again as my spectrum that I was perceiving of the energy field moved in a forward motion along the track. And further in front of me and behind me were these other bodies, that were me, but different parts of me. This entire time she was repeating, "Now you get to ride the train."
Apparently I wasn't ready to leave the tracks.
Another time, some months later, on a higher dose, I began to become more familiar with the transition of the spectrum of my energy field tune into the salvia frequency. I can't really describe what happened, and I'm not going to try to.
But where I'm going with all this is:
Consciousness is a vast and seemingly infinite spectrum and our energetic signature is interconnected with all these frequencies all of the time-(which completely flies out the window in salvia land), our perception can be adjusted to focus on these other frequencies that we are always connected to. But to bring back knowledge from these different layers in a coherent and clear manner is damn near impossible, but the experience remains. Can you communicated it? Not really, but you mind has been stamped with that experience. When you return again, you have tuned into that station before, and you see more, you understand more, and more sense is made from these experiences.
These experiences are outside of the frequency we are normally tuned into, therefore words are not in existence that can possibly convey to another, yet the experience remains.
Oh and that message you received from the alter-frequency family was probably saying you must find enlightenment before you can transcend to the next layer of your signatures evolution. Whatever that may mean.
I wish you luck on figuring it out.
Not sure if this has anything to do with the thread topic...but.
I see things quite often. Not sure if I'm crazy or what though. When I close my eyes occasionally I will see people in the darkness. Moving around and occasionally coming closer to me and extending their hands or making gestures. Its almost like there is a strobe light on them and I can only see them in flashes. When I meditate it is usually accompanied by a feeling of energy surging through my body. Lots more shit but its pointless to explain. Somebody might care on totse though.
there are apparently people who will mediate for days on end and will trip out more than any of us can possibly imagine...
anyway it think they call it santori when you enter into a buddhist meditiation that has encompanying visuals that go along with and "enhance" the visuals of mere meditation.
it's crazy think what the brain by itself is capable of.
by the way, the one time i did salvia it didn't really work (i got some mild visual hallucinations but nothing spectacular).
do you really need to smoke it through a water pipe (i.e. bong, etc) to get the full effect? (i live in virginia and only have until july 1 before it becomes illegal so i want to have a true experience before i have to travel out of state to get it) if not, what is our preferred smoking method for salvia to maximamize your trip? (sorry to hijack the thread by the way).
Vanhalla
2008-06-12, 21:02
Smoke it through a water pipe and hold the flame to it the entire time you smoke it. I suggest trying to take it all in in one hit. Hold it within your lungs for around 30 seconds. Exhale, close your eyes, and don't fear/fight it, just go with it. Or, fall back into consciousness as I like to put it.
Get a package with ten hits of strong salvia and that should last you more than 10 months probably, its not something you will want to do often.
The BLTC crowd has known about non-drug-induced hallucinations for decades. There are people there that would be able to tell you as well (but mostly that you're a pussy for some reason :confused:). This is totally normal for serious meditation.