so here's the deal, today, i've went for the second time to a scheduled recruitment

so now the psychologists said to me that i have some psychological problems (while i said i was over it completely) don't think BIG because they're not big issues and it's from the past and i told them i've let the past behind me & shit still they conclude they're right, bastards gave me a 6/20 (9-12 being good and 13-16 is a fucking lot, no1 gets 20/20)

i told them i've quit smoking, did some first aid training (red cross) been working out seriously, doing box, wanting a military career for as long as i could speak practicly..just saying the things a interviewer wants to hear, but no..instead they give me crap about last time when i was fucking honest

now they told me i won't be getting in the army for the planned date because there are few places (15) and too much candidates, an oriantation officer told me i would have a chance getting in if the ministery of defence would get more money and so creating more places for recruits

now, i know most of you people will have difficulties reading this and that i'm in fact bitching & moaning, but i will retry my freakin tests AGAIN for the sake of it

and my question is...do they make such a big fucking deal in your country? it's more like the lottory in belgium. 50% of the recruits that get into the army quits after about a year

say that i don't get into the belgian army, what would other options be to become a soldier?the french foreign legion?

the US army? i don't know how i could get in it, i don't want to wait few years in the US to get in it!!

the french army? i was born in france so i could get 2 nationalities, get a place to live and enlist

i just want to be in the military and that's it people
i've changed lifestyl drasticly and still i havent been compensated for that...do i sound familiair to some of you?

thanks in advance

Ask yourself when the last time the Belgian military participated in any military engagements, and how involved was it, in these engagements. Your country does not need much of a military, so therefor it's much harder to get in. All I can say is keep trying, and hope you eventually get accepted. However, in the mean-time, do things to better yourself, like go to school. This may even make you a more desirable recruit, to your countries military.

If you want to see some action, they say the French Foreign Legion is where to be. The operate a lot in Africa, which is one of the most violent places in the world. One thing you should take into consideration about the FFL, is that desertion is their biggest problem. The only logical reasons why many people desert is 1) The lifestyle sucks. 2) The pay is crappy. Life and pay might be better in Frances military, but the whole "military/combat lifestyle" may be lacking, compared to the Legion.

Oh yeah, I believe you can get into the US military, without citizenship. I don't know anything about the process though, so you should google it if you're seriously interested. However, one thing I do know is that your career field options will be limited, since you won't qualify for a security clearance, if you're not a citizen.

Oh yeah, I believe you can get into the US military, without citizenship. I don't know anything about the process though, so you should google it if you're seriously interested.

You'll need permanent residency status, at least. A green card, you know?

Of course, you'll also still need to meet the requirements that the rest of the US citizens need. Also, education experience needs to be transferable and match up (High school diploma/GED/>15 college credits).

I got in with the college credits, since I graduated high school in CA one year before my class with the CHSPE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHSPE), which under law, is basically an early access to a high school diploma, but for some reason is only CA accredited instead of federally accredited. Or something. :rolleyes:

...or you could just go and get yourself a proper job, y'know?

i don't want a regular job, that's the thing

can you give me more info about joining the american army?or is it the marines?

isn't getting a greencard hard?i thought i would need to work 5 years in the US first to before getting in the army

also, if i would go to the legion, i guess it would be a bad idea to mention i tried getting in the belgian army without succes...i just want to go in the military (infantry or similar) i don't care what it pays, it doesn't need to be huge

anymore info appreciated

I'm almost certain you could join the Army or Marines while having been in the USA for less than a year. IIRC, I remember the recruiters at our station talking to people that sounded fresh off the boat, and weren't even citizens.

i don't want a regular job, that's the thing

can you give me more info about joining the american army?or is it the marines?

isn't getting a greencard hard?i thought i would need to work 5 years in the US first to before getting in the army

also, if i would go to the legion, i guess it would be a bad idea to mention i tried getting in the belgian army without succes...i just want to go in the military (infantry or similar) i don't care what it pays, it doesn't need to be huge

anymore info appreciated

The US has 5 component branches of military:
Army
Air Force
Navy
Marine Corps
Coast Guard

The army has a lot of tanks, the air force has a lot of nukes, the navy has a lot of ships, the marines have a lot of...guns, and the coast guard has a lot of....uhh...dolphins.

Anyway, getting a green card (which interestingly enough is actually pink) is not easy. It takes a bit of money (try >$1500 USD), and either a relative citizen or you having some certified skill that the US is interested in. Like an author or nuclear engineer or something. But anyway, once you have permanet residency (which isnt citizenship), you'll need to live here for 5 years before you can apply for full citizenship. Else, you can join the military under permanent resident status, and the govt will give you citizenship as you're enlisting.

Anyway, if you want to learn more about the US militaries, wikipedia is the place to be:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States

I mean, if you have the resources to jump those international hoops, then go for it. Else, I'd say try to get into a military of your own country. Find the reasons why they denied you, and if you can fix those to their standards, great. Otherwise, theres always the foreign legion, I guess.
Or NATO.

i don't want a regular job, that's the thing

You could always come across the channel to Britain and help us fight our pointless war.

IIRC, I remember the recruiters at our station talking to people that sounded fresh off the boat, and weren't even citizens.

"My name ees Manuel, an I want to keel som brown people fo' joooo."

"Application granted, welcome to the United States!

Ohh Rah!"

i think i'm going to try corresponding with a recruiter cous not everyone is saying the same thing

i do would like to know what would be my best option if i'm really going to make the decision, i want to have a job in the infantry, would i be better of in the marines?isn't it a whole lot harder than the army?how do foreign recruits get treated when in bootcamp?

any tips for a residency in the us?guess i would live in my regiment or just civilian house that i will have to buy/hire myself?

thanks for the replies so far!

i think i'm going to try corresponding with a recruiter cous not everyone is saying the same thing

i do would like to know what would be my best option if i'm really going to make the decision, i want to have a job in the infantry, would i be better of in the marines?isn't it a whole lot harder than the army?how do foreign recruits get treated when in bootcamp?

any tips for a residency in the us?guess i would live in my regiment or just civilian house that i will have to buy/hire myself?

thanks for the replies so far!

I'd say go with the Marines, if you want the most infantry/soldier experience. They army offers a larger field of specialty jobs, that translate well into the civilian sector, than the Marine Corps, but Marines get more combat training than the Army.

As for foreigners in our military: In my flight in Basic Training, we had one guy from England, and two guys from Venezuela. They all had obvious foreign accents, so we all knew right away they were foreign. They were treated exactly the same as the rest of us. In fact, as a foreigner, you can expect to make a lot of friends.

Until you join the military, you'll be on your own with housing. Do some research on different states and cities, and decide where it will be best for you to migrate to. Check the local craigslist for cheap places to live, and a job until you are able to enlist.