View Full Version : Where is safe from climate change?
Banana Blunt
2008-06-18, 22:13
Okay, so the earth's climate is changing -- sea levels rising, droughts revving up, whatelse have you (actually, what else are we in for?)... assuming this is true, where the hell should us smarty pants' [survivalist minded folk] choose to live? Where should I, and/or all of us concerned people, investiage moving to, to insure safety and stability climate-wise of the next 50+ years?
I would assume both US coasts (or any other coast in the world) are horrible ideas. Besides sea levels rising, the increasing amount of extreme storms are sure to reek havoc upon coastal areas in the next century.
If this proves to be true, one would think heading inland would be the way to go, but then there's drought to consider. I forget exactly why, but I understand that massive drought will probably hit the midwest within our lifetimes'. And while I'm not expert, from what Ive experienced in my recent travels, many of the Western US states are currently in drought already. Not only does this mean poor farming and grazing conditions, but an increased likelyhood of forest fires.
So then I would venture that desert/Southwestern states might be worth looking into, but those have problems too. Many/all of their major cities are fed by rivers that are fed by snow melt. If that sources dries up (which it is currently doing, I believe), those cities wont really be viable anymore, now would they?
And moving out to the desert also seems to be a horrible, because where there's little water today, I would guess there will be no water in 50 years... The same would go for places currently in rain shadows.
My best guess would be mountainous regions facing the oceans (for instances, the western slopes of the Rockies or Sierra Nevada) but these places are already pretty heavily populated, are they not? And California seems to be doomed if any rapid climate changes occurs anyway (my line of thought being: too many people with already stretched resources = eventual chaos).
So, totse, where the fuck is going to be reasonably safe from climate change [in the US of A more specifically]? Anyone got any ideas?
I hear the moon is nice this time of the year..
Slave of the Beast
2008-06-20, 09:03
In the mountains...
Are you sure about (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ6lizS3fzM&feature=related) that?
your enemy
2008-07-01, 22:59
Its all lies. Don't move anywhere. The communists are just trying to destroy you. Work hard and get rich.
Verybigboy18
2008-07-04, 02:48
I am staying in Ohio. Its inland, if the climate warms up we are far enough north that it will probably only get as hot as Texas is now, and we have good sources of water.
asdfghasdfgh
2008-07-04, 17:04
I am staying in Ohio. Its inland, if the climate warms up we are far enough north that it will probably only get as hot as Texas is now, and we have good sources of water.
And what if an Ice Age happens?
You can not be certain that you are going to be safe anywhere, no one knows for certain what effects climate change will have hence it is difficult to choose.
For example the previous poster described how Ohio could be under ice if a new ice age occoured. This could happen however, unless you believe in a 'The day after tomorrow' type scenario it is unlikely an ice sheet will form in your life time that covers a good portion of the northern hemisphere. Also we don't know what will happen to other regions, could the sahara become the bread basket of the world or the Amazon a desert? or what would the sea floor that has been exposed because of a seal level drop be like to live on? Would storms or floods be more or less common? Would people see your area as a safe haven and move there as climate refugees? There are just so many different scenarios and possible outcomes that it is impossible to say for certain where is best to live.
All you can do is make and follow reasonable assumptions and predictions. No place is going to be unaffected, just some, either for the better or worse (well for human civilisation...), more than others.
Nightside Eclipse
2008-07-05, 04:06
Oh, if there is a drastic polar shift, then as the person ^^^ said, no one really knows.
SilentMind
2008-07-05, 05:31
I'd stick to the equator.
Just about anywhere since climate change is a scam. :rolleyes:
SilentMind
2008-07-05, 19:14
Just about anywhere since climate change is a scam. :rolleyes:
Global warming is a scam. Climate change isn't.
Prometheus
2008-07-07, 01:22
I am staying in Ohio. Its inland, if the climate warms up we are far enough north that it will probably only get as hot as Texas is now, and we have good sources of water.
I'm going to say the same thing about Michigan. Sure, it will feel like fucking Alabama or Florida, but that's not too horrible compared to other places. And we're sitting on the world's largest source of fresh water. Can't beat that.
Lollercopter101
2008-07-10, 07:25
NO WHERE IS SAFE!!!111!!!!ONEELEVEN!!!!
MURDER/SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rolleyes:
Naterd00d
2008-07-11, 11:40
Are you sure about (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ6lizS3fzM&feature=related) that?
hahahahaahahahahahha
Ed Lister
2008-07-12, 12:32
Antartica
jkrunis5151
2008-07-12, 12:32
your grave, the only honest solution
OveRTurE
2008-07-12, 15:46
Newfoundland. You'll be safe there.
glutamate antagonist
2008-07-26, 23:53
Madagascar.
You're safe from EVERYTHING there.
I'm staying in delaware, unless I have to move to maryland
Nightside Eclipse
2008-07-27, 02:03
Madagascar.
You're safe from EVERYTHING there.
Even a 100 km diameter asteroid?
glutamate antagonist
2008-07-27, 17:26
Even a 100 km diameter asteroid?
...
you don't get it
If this does happen then only a lucky few will get to safe spots before mass chaos comes into play. So even if there are these 'safe spots' you'll eventually be kicked out by someone with a bigger gun.
Probably best off building a bomb shelter and praying.
Twisted_Ferret
2008-08-02, 23:06
Anywhere except Iceland. I hear it's going to be terrible there. So stay away.
knows2nose
2008-08-03, 23:38
Its interesting you bring up Iceland. During WW2 there was a squadron of P-38's that ran out of gas up that way in Greenland.
Fact of the matter is (in relation to "global warming"), If you have any interest in P-38's or history that way, look up the one a guy went and recovered one complete +. The most amazing thing other than the most awesome plane ever to come from that era short of the sabre jet, was the fact that in recent years, if you hit the website you can see for your self. The plane is now called "Glacier Girl". Look it up and see [U]how many feet they had to dig down to get to the planes.[U] Now I believe that we are needing to make some changes, however thats way too many feet of ice to think that its disappearing. Thats 268 feet in 50 years. Thats 5+ feet gain a year.
RECOVERY OF GLACIER GIRL
On July 15, 1992, fifty years to the day later, 74-year-old Brad McManus stood on the ice cap surrounded by the recovered pieces of his late friend Harry Smith's P-38, as chronicled in the documentary, and was flooded with memories of his wartime experience and the lifetime friendships that he held dear to his heart. A new mission was about to begin.
http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl-recovery.htm
How do you get a P-38 out of the ice? Simple...melt the ice!
Well, maybe not as simple as that, seeing how it was 268 feet of ice. Basically, you start with a six-digit budget, followed by transporting tons of equipment that include arctic survival gear and heavy construction machinery, and top it all off with adventure-minded individuals willing to take the hardships and risks associated with one-of-a-kind expeditions to a hostile environment. That's what it took to recover a P-38 from "The Lost Squadron."
So call me skeptical at least. Push come to shove though, if I had to deal with an unknown something, I would go downstairs. Yeah its a little cool in the cave systems, but during any kind of winter, its still 50+ degrees which is a heck of allot better than freezing. I would just go underground, you dont have to go very far down to hit the geothermal barrier. maybe as little as a floor down. I believe the barrier is like 5 feet + or-.
Nietzche
2008-09-07, 00:56
deserts work, forests work, ocean works
Pandoras Assassin
2008-09-07, 04:14
In ur Hummer. Lock ur doors, and turn up the AC.
TruthWielder
2008-09-08, 14:51
Uranus.
ChickenOfDoom
2008-09-28, 05:29
My home is in Vermont. I think the value of our property is going to go up a lot in coming years.
Mantikore
2008-09-28, 09:52
i live in sydney, but pretty deep inland. i saw on the news that water levels could in the next few decades make my ghetto suburb right next to the beach
yoda_me07
2008-10-12, 02:55
i live in sydney, but pretty deep inland. i saw on the news that water levels could in the next few decades make my ghetto suburb right next to the beach
beachfront property =]
Korivan I'Alagmarae
2008-10-22, 00:15
I hear earth is safe from destructive climate change.
I hear earth is safe from destructive climate change.
I call bullshit on this post.
wolfy_9005
2008-10-23, 15:39
Whats the max the water will rise? 30-50m? So ill just stay where i am and get to walk/drive 1km to the beach....
Basically, only the areas very close to the ocean should get affected.
reggie_love
2008-11-01, 00:03
In a few hundred years Siberia is going to be prime real estate. No joke
Since the whole things a scam to get new carbon taxes and Orwellian regulation, this:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/earth_1_apollo17.gif
jb_mcbean
2008-11-16, 15:29
The word is wreak.
humbletheif
2008-11-18, 06:09
are people still actually skeptics on this?! this shit's real.
caves are virtually untouched by human impact and pollution. kinda be a bad place to live if youre planning on skimpin out on this global fiesta
tommygreen
2008-11-20, 13:41
Hi,
This is quite serious... some thing has to be done in order to stop this climate change....
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Sustainable Development (http://sustaingreenpower.com)
SmackNixon
2008-11-29, 05:26
I did it all for the NOOKIE!
YEAH!
The NOOKIE!
COME ON!
So you can take that cookie!
And stick it up your EHHHHH!
Stick it up your EHHHH?
STICK IT UP YOUR EHHH!!
earthbound01
2008-12-05, 19:22
All the survivalists websites I've read point to Idaho.
Frank&Sense
2008-12-07, 21:06
Well, first of all, if this is indeed going to happen, which it probably won't in our lifetimes at least, I would say somewhere in the Cascades or Eastern Washington. It may be close to the Ocean but, the Cascades block any water getting east of them and the climate is the radical of both winter and summer. Great place to live in my opinion.
Adhesive Tape
2008-12-26, 14:49
Who gives a fuck? It's all bull shit spun together by Al Bore. Do drugs, fuck bitches, make money and let the wheels on the bus go round and round.
Rainycity
2008-12-28, 07:10
underground and become rat people
unstableasatable
2008-12-29, 12:51
scandinavi.
ChrisVickers
2009-01-02, 01:33
I would be more worried about the current economic storm than sea level rise. Wait till the dollar collapses. It's coming.
Injen420
2009-01-06, 18:16
Actually They believe during the last ice age about (10,000 bc) it started to come out of the ice age. But melt water from the glacier was diverted down the st. lawernece instead of the mississippi and did a Day After tmrw type secnario and froze over drasticaly. Because of the gulf stream current being dilliuted. So if greenland were to melt quickly then that could happen so they believe.
Actually They believe during the last ice age about (10,000 bc) it started to come out of the ice age. But melt water from the glacier was diverted down the st. lawernece instead of the mississippi and did a Day After tmrw type secnario and froze over drasticaly. Because of the gulf stream current being dilliuted. So if greenland were to melt quickly then that could happen so they believe.
One of the theory's as to how the last ice age was initiated is that a huge glacial dam was formed holding back a massive fresh water melt lake. This dam broke and flooded part of the gulf stream with fresh water ruining the salinity balance and stopping the flow.
Very unlikely to happen in a Day after Tomorrow type event.