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Ibanez
2008-06-28, 16:20
So, how many of you pick up life's little signs and hints?

Slave of the Beast
2008-06-28, 18:09
The ambiguity of the question lends itself well to this forum, but some examples would be useful.

mishadowst
2008-06-28, 19:22
i know its probably kinda funky but i tend to use foreshadows from books and use those examples as omens when i come across the same situations IRL...*waits to be flamed*

kurdt318
2008-06-28, 20:08
The ambiguity of the question lends itself well to this forum, but some examples would be useful.

I'm assuming he's talking about sychronicity, the idea that seemingly "meaningless" encounters, glances, thoughts, dreams, etc., have a deeper purpose.

So, how many of you pick up life's little signs and hints?

I try to remain aware as much as possible. I've also taken to writing down my dreams to see what signs they hold.

Ibanez
2008-06-29, 04:03
I'm assuming he's talking about sychronicity, the idea that seemingly "meaningless" encounters, glances, thoughts, dreams, etc., have a deeper purpose.


Yes, exactly. I couldn't really put the idea into words, thank you.

The ambiguity of the question lends itself well to this forum, but some examples would be useful.
Well, last night I nearly got arrested for being involved with a group of people who were purchasing and doing cocaine. When I got home from the whole ordeal, I looked on iTunes and the last song played was "Cocaine - Eric Clapton," which was what I was listening to right before I went out last night.

While I was listening to that song, I had no idea what was going to happen that night. I had no reason to suspect that it was a sign. Why would I? There are so many little things that could be potential omens, which makes me ask: if these are not just coincidences and were actually foreshadows, how did they get there, and more importantly, how can we distinguish a sign from an insignificant event? If they were put there by some sort of higher being (maybe mother nature herself?), are we supposed to be able to use them to our advantage? Is there some sort of code to crack that would allow us to recognize signs and what they are foreshadowing?


Pay no attention to my ramblings..

kurdt318
2008-06-29, 16:00
how can we distinguish a sign from an insignificant event?

I always get a certain feeling from "signs." I guess you could say I'm in tune with my intuition, although my sun sign is Pisces so I am supposed to have heightened psychic ability.

Attention+Intention+Integrity+Intuition=Creation

are we supposed to be able to use them to our advantage?

Yes, by all means use these coincedences to your advantage! Most specifically to aid your spiritual growth.

The goatse man
2008-06-30, 01:19
Life doesn't have 'signs' Sometimes a coincidence will come along that will make you think for a second it means something, but it was nothing.

wyrmwraith
2008-06-30, 07:48
I don't think it's all that uncommon, I just think you shouldn't read too much into it to the point it effects your life and you start subconsciously seeking comparisons for spiritual meaning. You're an individual after all.

Anirak
2008-06-30, 17:08
Yes, exactly. I couldn't really put the idea into words, thank you.


Well, last night I nearly got arrested for being involved with a group of people who were purchasing and doing cocaine. When I got home from the whole ordeal, I looked on iTunes and the last song played was "Cocaine - Eric Clapton," which was what I was listening to right before I went out last night.

While I was listening to that song, I had no idea what was going to happen that night. I had no reason to suspect that it was a sign. Why would I? There are so many little things that could be potential omens, which makes me ask: if these are not just coincidences and were actually foreshadows, how did they get there, and more importantly, how can we distinguish a sign from an insignificant event? If they were put there by some sort of higher being (maybe mother nature herself?), are we supposed to be able to use them to our advantage? Is there some sort of code to crack that would allow us to recognize signs and what they are foreshadowing?


Pay no attention to my ramblings..

Yes, I've noticed. The people who will say it's all in your head simply aren't paying close enough attention. Selection bias can't explain for it all, as you probably know if you've been interested in it long enough.

Let me give a good example:

I was walking to class one day with my friend and I saw a hat that looked similar to the Yakuza gang's symbol from GTA2, so I started thinking about it. It was actually a baseball cap. As I'm thinking this, my friend next to me brings up GTA2. I immediately stop and say, "what just made you think of that?" He says, "I saw the cars passing by and it made me think of it." Different stimulus, same mental response at the same time. There really is no way to account for this being selection bias; the only possibility is coincidence. And if it is coincidence, I'll be damned, because it happens a ridiculous amount of times every day. Take a look at how often you are thinking something and someone says the exact same thing out loud.

Obviously I'm not trying to convince anyone, but I can say that having seen this happen so many times it makes it almost impossible to think that something isn't going on here.

reject
2008-06-30, 19:24
I always get a certain feeling from "signs." I guess you could say I'm in tune with my intuition, although my sun sign is Pisces so I am supposed to have heightened psychic ability.

For real.

Sometimes I just get these "bad feelings" about something, and if I do it anyway and ignore these feelings and vibes then something bad DOES happen. So now if I get a bad vibe or feeling then I will listen to it and won't do what I was going to do.

An example or 2:

Back when I was 15, I got expelled from school. I got expelled for "supplying drugs". Basically I went and got a tenbit for some dude, but I had a REALLY bad feeling about giving it to him, but I did anyway, and I even bunked the day off school after I gave it to him just because I knew shit was going to go down and I wanted to be away from it. Low and behold, 6pm that night the police knock at the door and question me about supplying drugs and the next day when I go to school I get expelled.

Another time was we were down this public footpath really out of the way, but I got this uncomfortable nagging feeling, but I told myself that it was out in nowhere so the police won't bother going down there and I was just being paranoid. Skin up, spark it, next thing I see is 2 fluorescent jackets coming towards us and we have to quickly stash our stuff. Didn't get arrested or anything, just a stop search, but yea, there have been a few other times where I know that something bad is going to happen if I don't listen to feelings and thoughts.

ArmsMerchant
2008-06-30, 19:51
Life doesn't have 'signs' Sometimes a coincidence will come along that will make you think for a second it means something, but it was nothing.

We create our own reality. If it serves you somehow to live in a meaningless universe, so be it, but it ill behooves you to speak to, or for, others.

That said, I have been taught and accept as true that nothing has any meaning PER SE, but only as we choose to assign meaning to it.

Still, my own life is rife with this stuff. Like I had been thinking about studying A Course in Miracles--boom, a copy of it appeared on the sale table at the library. (Okay, I'm not saying it materialized in a poof of smoke.) A few weeks later, having gotten bogged down and a tad discouraged, some woman came into the library with a copy of a small book--sort of a Course in MNiracles for dummies--and literally laid it at my feet.

Ibanez
2008-06-30, 23:19
Heres another example. Yesterday I was in the car looking out the window letting my mind wander, and the phrase "and thats all I have to say about that" popped into my head. I dont know why, it just did. Later that same day, my friend was talking about something and said "and thats all I have to say about that," word for word. Yeah, that could be a coincidence but things like that happen way too often.

mythbuster13
2008-07-01, 01:25
Life doesn't have 'signs' Sometimes a coincidence will come along that will make you think for a second it means something, but it was nothing.

THIS

Yes, I've noticed. The people who will say it's all in your head simply aren't paying close enough attention. Selection bias can't explain for it all, as you probably know if you've been interested in it long enough.

Let me give a good example:

I was walking to class one day with my friend and I saw a hat that looked similar to the Yakuza gang's symbol from GTA2, so I started thinking about it. It was actually a baseball cap. As I'm thinking this, my friend next to me brings up GTA2. I immediately stop and say, "what just made you think of that?" He says, "I saw the cars passing by and it made me think of it." Different stimulus, same mental response at the same time. There really is no way to account for this being selection bias; the only possibility is coincidence. And if it is coincidence, I'll be damned, because it happens a ridiculous amount of times every day. Take a look at how often you are thinking something and someone says the exact same thing out loud.

Obviously I'm not trying to convince anyone, but I can say that having seen this happen so many times it makes it almost impossible to think that something isn't going on here.
bullshit



Back when I was 15, I got expelled from school. I got expelled for "supplying drugs". Basically I went and got a tenbit for some dude, but I had a REALLY bad feeling about
Another time was we were down this public footpath really out of the way, but I got this uncomfortable nagging feeling, but I told myself that it was out in nowhere so the police won't bother going down there and I was just being paranoid. Skin up, spark it, next thing I see is 2 fluorescent jackets coming towards us and we have to quickly stash our stuff. Didn't get arrested or anything, just a stop search, but yea, there have been a few other times where I know that something bad is going to happen if I don't listen to feelings and thoughts.

It's called common sense

One time, i didn't do my HW, and thought that the teacher would get mad. And then the next day, the teacher got mad! OMG teh signs!

"And that is all I have to say about that"

The goatse man
2008-07-01, 01:30
I can see if maybe you drempt the winning lottery numbers, or maybe if it somehow saved your life...But these things are just useless. I think he's got more important shit to do.

Anirak
2008-07-01, 02:05
bullshit

What the fuck do you mean bullshit? Are you insinuating that I am making that up? I love it when people try to call out what I say as a lie when I know it happened, because it actually gives credibility to the conclusion that I came to from that point.

I don't care whether you believe it, and the fact that you have the gall to say whether or not these things have happened to me when you have no idea who I am says something about the strength and foundation of your argument, which is naught.

Edit: Let's make our points a little more clear, and I hope you bother to respond. If I am not, in fact, making my story up (I'm not), would you come to the same conclusion that I did, namely, that "something is going on here?"

mythbuster13
2008-07-01, 03:00
I didn't claim bullshit on your story, as if i didn't believe it. I probably should have rephrased it into "it was merely a coincidence, you are an idiot for believing otherwise."
Sorry about that.
Just a few days ago, the exact same phrase popped into my mind while playing videogames. Does that mean that something mystical is out there? NO It most likely means that we watched Forrest Gump a more than a few times.


it almost impossible to think that something isn't going on here.
this is what "bullshit" referred to

Anirak
2008-07-01, 04:36
I didn't claim bullshit on your story, as if i didn't believe it. I probably should have rephrased it into "it was merely a coincidence, you are an idiot for believing otherwise."
Sorry about that.
Just a few days ago, the exact same phrase popped into my mind while playing videogames. Does that mean that something mystical is out there? NO It most likely means that we watched Forrest Gump a more than a few times.



this is what "bullshit" referred to

Well, fair enough. I'm not trying to convince anyone, because I used to be heavily skeptical. I'm just saying that these coincidences are unlikely to happen, and by themselves would mean nothing. The fact that they happen so often is what gets me.

Anyway, it's personal, and I can see where you come from without any struggle.

Metaflux
2008-07-01, 08:01
Yes, exactly. I couldn't really put the idea into words, thank you.


Well, last night I nearly got arrested for being involved with a group of people who were purchasing and doing cocaine. When I got home from the whole ordeal, I looked on iTunes and the last song played was "Cocaine - Eric Clapton," which was what I was listening to right before I went out last night.

While I was listening to that song, I had no idea what was going to happen that night. I had no reason to suspect that it was a sign. Why would I? There are so many little things that could be potential omens, which makes me ask: if these are not just coincidences and were actually foreshadows, how did they get there, and more importantly, how can we distinguish a sign from an insignificant event? If they were put there by some sort of higher being (maybe mother nature herself?), are we supposed to be able to use them to our advantage? Is there some sort of code to crack that would allow us to recognize signs and what they are foreshadowing?


Pay no attention to my ramblings..

Either God was giving you a sign, or you really like Eric Clapton

reject
2008-07-01, 10:39
It's called common sense

One time, i didn't do my HW, and thought that the teacher would get mad. And then the next day, the teacher got mad! OMG teh signs!

"And that is all I have to say about that"

Not really, I've done it many times before and since then with no problems at all with no bad feelings about it, it's just that time I KNEW it was going to go tits up.

Ibanez
2008-07-01, 14:51
Either God was giving you a sign, or you really like Eric Clapton

I do, actually. So much that I have 200+ songs under "Eric Clapton" in iTunes. So the chances of that one song playing (I keep iTunes on random) is 1 in 200.

cocacola14
2008-07-02, 20:03
It doesn't mean shit

mythbuster13
2008-07-02, 22:21
It doesn't mean shit

this.

Anirak
2008-07-02, 23:02
I doesn't mean shit
this.

He doesn't mean shit?

mythbuster13
2008-07-03, 00:58
Exactly

kurdt318
2008-07-03, 15:40
It doesn't mean shit

Things don't just happen.

Did human beings just happen?

Did the earth just happen?

No! Things do not just happen. They evolve from past occurences. Everything happening now is doing so because of some precedent before it. In the case of human existence, some chemical reaction occured or some climate change happened to bring upon evolution. In the case of your life, you made some choice in your past that affected your future.

This is Creation, whether it be of reality, earth, or existence.

What is happening now is happening for a reason, i.e. a choice you made in your past. Recognize these occurences, so you can better your future self. Participate in conscious evolution of self.

But, don't think that anything is destined to happen. We are never faced with only one choice/reaction/outcome, this is free will.

If I may end with a quote:

"Think of what is happening now as a gift from your past self to your future self. Hell, that's why we call it the present."
-Anonymous

ate
2008-07-04, 15:05
Follow the signs..

HARDMAN
2008-07-04, 23:05
Synchronicity fascinates me.

One example that sticks out in my mind is one time I was doing poorly in school, mostly slacking off and avoiding my assigned work. My grades were suffering. One morning while driving to school I was contemplating my academic performance and thought about how it was affecting my life and how I need to do better. As I arrived and parked my car, I began walking toward the school, and I stuck my hands in my pocket and realized that I had forgotten my pen (which I always carry in my pocket). I found it ironic that I had been slacking off in my schoolwork and now I had forgotten the one tool that I needed in order to do the work and take notes during class. At this moment I looked down while stepping off a curb, and there was my pen lying right there on the sidewalk.

I always parked in the same spot every day. I assumed the pen had fallen out of my pocket when I had pulled my keys out to unlock my car the day before, and it stayed there over night.

Another time my friend was asking me for some social advice. He was always pretty shy, and he wanted to become more outgoing. I told him to be more active so he could make more friends. I dismissively recommended that he do some volunteer work or go to the park and play basketball or something. Then he told me that just a few days before he had been invited to a game of basketball, and couple of days after that he wanted to do some volunteer work to repair a house, but he was too shy to join in on both occassions. In fact, that was exactly why he had come to me for advice.

A bit discouraging. If there was a "purpose" to that one, it was pretty negative. Maybe it meant I couldn't help him and he need to find his own path. Or that he just needed to force himself to do it.

I haven't studied it much, but my skeptical side tells me that the human mind must be fine-tuned to recognize coincidences for some reason. But my other side tells me maybe there is a deeper meaning to it...