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Rizzo in a box
2008-07-20, 08:20
In the spiritual community (if there truly is such a thing), a lot of people like to go around spreading messages of so-called peace and hope, love & light. sure, that's great and all, but this isn't a one sided universe. unless yr in a state of complete non-duality life is nothing but a constant struggle of life vs death - an infinite war.
So please, all you spiritual aspirants, shamans, psychedelic burn-outs, whosits and whatnots, take a moment out of yr day to lose all hope. Treat yr life as if it were a war.
Keep death as a constant companion.
For all the light in the world, there is an equal amount of shadow, and all yr love is hate.
in war & death,
rizzo
this isn't a one sided universe. unless yr in a state of complete non-duality life is nothing but a constant struggle of life vs death - an infinite war.
...take a moment out of yr day to lose all hope.
Keep death as a constant companion.
For all the light in the world, there is an equal amount of shadow, and all yr love is hate.
Good post rizzo, I agree with what you are saying and it is good to be reminded of it.
vazilizaitsev89
2008-07-20, 20:00
good post, but what is yr? year? your? you're? what?
BrokeProphet
2008-07-20, 20:41
Nice.
I say true wisdom comes from experience, not from abstinence.
MR.Kitty55
2008-07-20, 21:23
good post, but what is yr? year? your? you're? what?
I hope yr not that dumb...
a constant struggle of life vs death - an infinite war.
I always saw it more as a struggle between order and chaos. There's much more going on in the universe than life. I think that once one realizes this concept it sheds light onto the failings of the world's religions. Ancient Indo-European spirituality and culture realized the eternal strife we face in this world, and embraced it while overcoming it with strength and vigor. In comparison the Abrahamic religions look like an endless pity party, clinging to false hope and faith. They consider it holy to submit, but to fight shows true virtue. There really seems to be some sort of turning point, at the end of the ancient era where the major religions turned from healthy traditions to this new parasitic variant of belief system. Even Buddhism shows this passive escapism which leaves its followers in a fantasy quest to leave this world (whether they're headed to Heaven or Nirvana, it's all the same). The Life-Affirming, death-conscious religions on the other hand celebrate life for what it is and accept dire fates, but not without a fight. Modern religion has no Ragnarok, only Judgement day. Maybe it's just a sign of a failing civilization, as all the healthy ones we know of had a much better understanding of life.
JesuitArtiste
2008-07-21, 12:04
Nice.
I say true wisdom comes from experience, not from abstinence.
I very much agree with this.
I always saw it more as a struggle between order and chaos. There's much more going on in the universe than life. I think that once one realizes this concept it sheds light onto the failings of the world's religions. Ancient Indo-European spirituality and culture realized the eternal strife we face in this world, and embraced it while overcoming it with strength and vigor.
I also agree with this... Of course, I think reading a little too much Corum and other fantasy when younger and onwards has kinda forced this upon me :D Nothing wrong with the hero-cult though.
I think religion have a differant focus in recent times. From being life-aspected and aiming towards understanding of our place in things it seems, like you say, to be more of a form of escapism; If there are problems in the world, bear them and then go to heaven, if you don't like something, wait till heaven.
I think the message of religion should be about bettering oneself, and self-growth, instead life is preached as being something sordid and somehow sullying.
.... Uh *more text*....
ArmsMerchant
2008-07-21, 18:24
We create our own reality. If one chooses to make their life one of strife and conflict, so be it--but I totally fail to see the point. Life is for enjoying. Sure, some growing pains are inevitable, but for me, every day is like an idealized Christmas--I know there are wonderful things for me under the tree (often not physical in nature, however). Every day brings fresh surprises and a renewed sense of wonder.
OP seems to be suggesting that we take time off from spiritual growth to intentionally backslide and wallow in fear and ego. No thanks. I backslide quite enough as it is, due to the seductive nature of the illusion of separation and the superstition of materialsm, not to mention my own tendency to procrastination and sloth, without having to go out of my way for it. Good grief! Or, God's prostate, if you prefer a stronger oath.