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double dosed on sunshine
2008-07-23, 23:04
hello everyone I am a long time visitor and was happy to finally be able to reg.

I am not some dumbass who is going to spam boards with stupid questions, and Im also not some self proclaimed know it all. I am just a strait up guy who is looking to learn.

I would like to start by asking stoopid_noob or another person who isnt an idiot for a good place to start in studying organic chem (nothing inherently illegal)
just basic lab procedures and even more importantly I would like to understand why these procedures work.

even a good book recomendation would be greatly appreciated

much thanks

DiamondX
2008-07-23, 23:19
Check out the rare books thread, its actually not rare books, it just started out that way. If you don't know basic chemistry don't even start learning organic chemistry. MIT puts all their chemistry stuff online, most of it has videos of the lectures, check google for that. This subject has been covered a few other times, so UTFSE.

stupid noob
2008-07-24, 03:35
Just read all the sticky threads, and the archives and everything you can.

Von Bass
2008-07-24, 09:44
Is your name supposed to be an acronym of DDoS?

Either way, chemistry is 70% knowledge and 30% experience. You can't learn everything from a textbook, you can't learn everything from a flask. I personally recommend reading anything by vogel, and that you find an area of chemistry, once you have the basics down, that you find especially interesting.

iceshrike
2008-07-25, 03:34
Vogel is a definite must read. As Von Bass said you need real life experience just as much as you need textual experience. One without the other is the equivalent of math without numbers IMO.

stupid noob
2008-07-25, 04:02
I like your name OP.

MrSparkle
2008-07-25, 13:29
Read The Organic Chem Lab Survival Manual. One of the best books I ever ordered it goes through all the do's and dont's of common lab procedures and explains all sorts of stuff chemists need to know.

You can download it here
http://warweed.com/download.php?list.9

FullMetalJacket
2008-07-27, 07:29
Is your name supposed to be an acronym of DDoS?

I rather suspect it's a reference to Scully's problem child.

stateofhack
2008-07-27, 10:42
I rather suspect it's a reference to Hoffman problem child.

http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/my_problem_child/

Sculley another old underground LSD chemist ;)

FullMetalJacket
2008-07-28, 14:59
I know who Scully was; he was behind the 'Orange SUnshine' blotter, which is why i referenced him specifically rather then jsut saying LSD in general.

Von Bass
2008-07-28, 15:47
I know who Scully was; he was behind the 'Orange SUnshine' blotter, which is why i referenced him specifically rather then jsut saying LSD in general.

ahhh... I knew of Scully as being one of the LSD synthesis pioneers, but I didn't get the reference to the 'Orange Sunshine' blotter. :(

Sadly the guy didn't even post again in this thread, perhaps we shall never know the full reasoning behind the name.

stateofhack
2008-07-28, 17:15
I know who Scully was; he was behind the 'Orange SUnshine' blotter, which is why i referenced him specifically rather then jsut saying LSD in general.

yeah, but the sentence "problem child" was adopted by Albert hofman, not Scully. But i see what you where trying to say, just thought you where confusing the two :s

double dosed on sunshine
2008-08-03, 03:25
thank you all for the book recomendations and general kindness. I havent been on here much because I have been studying a basic chemistry book, and havent had much time.

the name is a refferance to scullys sunshine acid.