16yr old here. MI, USA.
last night i got a ticket for 125mph in a 70mph zone.
Thank god it wasn't written as a misdemeanor (reckless driving) and only as a civil infraction.

I already admitted to the cop that pulled me over i was doing it (what the fuck am i supposed to say, "no officer i wasn't going 125!"?)

Anyway, I'm setting up a court date soon. What are my best chances (if any) to get the points wiped? If i get the points, i lose my license, because of insurance costs. I don't mind paying a fine.

I was thinking about just going to court, and basically kissing ass and hope for a female judge who isn't PMS-ing.

Help, totse?

(PS- asshole comments are not appreciated.)

16yr old here. MI, USA.
last night i got a ticket for 125mph in a 70mph zone.
Thank god it wasn't written as a misdemeanor (reckless driving) and only as a civil infraction.

I already admitted to the cop that pulled me over i was doing it (what the fuck am i supposed to say, "no officer i wasn't going 125!"?)

Anyway, I'm setting up a court date soon. What are my best chances (if any) to get the points wiped? If i get the points, i lose my license, because of insurance costs. I don't mind paying a fine.

I was thinking about just going to court, and basically kissing ass and hope for a female judge who isn't PMS-ing.

Help, totse?

(PS- asshole comments are not appreciated.)


You're fucked.

lol thank you for the bolding.

i made a quick decision to admit to what i was doing, seeing as it is obvious i knew how fast i was going.
looking back, that was a poor decision. at least i wasnt arrested.

I wish my first car went 125mph :mad:.

its nothing to brag about, its a honda accord. lol
max speed 130

looking back, that was a poor decision. at least i wasnt arrested.

This. Never admit anything.

I wish my first car went 125mph :mad:.
its nothing to brag about, its a honda accord. lol
max speed 130

My first car was a ford ranger and I fastest I ever got it to go was 85, and only because I was going down a very long downhill on the highway.

Anyways, back on topic.

Read this article.
http://www.worldlawdirect.com/article/903

Read the entire article, top to bottom.
Yes, it is a 20 page article. Yes, it can be dry and dull in parts.
But fuck, its the least you could do considering you may lose your license.

If you can't figure out how to get out of a ticket after reading that, there's nothing more we can do for you.

I think by law you can have a cop come calibrate your car, and their radar. Doing that might piss em off, but if it was off, you might be able to get off on some sort of technicality... idk, i never read much into traffic law.


But ya, you're fuxxord



And I too wish my car would go 125.

Read this article.
http://www.worldlawdirect.com/article/903


I read that awhile ago.


He's fucked, he admitted it.

talk about a bad mistake :(

If you were doing 125...

...how the HELL did the cop catch you?

because i pulled over. i realize now i could have gotten off the highway immediately and done some driving around, but i mean come on, thats a felony if you get caught. i just decided to fuck it and pull over.

i really dont think your going to get out of that. the judge is going to look at you and see you for what you are. some wannabe hot shot 16 year old who just got his license and was trying to impress his friends by driving stupidly fast

i was alone lol

16yr old here. MI, USA.
last night i got a ticket for 125mph in a 70mph zone.
Thank god it wasn't written as a misdemeanor (reckless driving) and only as a civil infraction.

I already admitted to the cop that pulled me over i was doing it (what the fuck am i supposed to say, "no officer i wasn't going 125!"?)

Anyway, I'm setting up a court date soon. What are my best chances (if any) to get the points wiped? If i get the points, i lose my license, because of insurance costs. I don't mind paying a fine.

I was thinking about just going to court, and basically kissing ass and hope for a female judge who isn't PMS-ing.

Help, totse?

(PS- asshole comments are not appreciated.)

Haha, that reminds me of a few weeks back
The manager of my gym got caught doing 130mph in 50 zone
he managed to lie his way out of it.. if you google the story you should find it, its fucking hilarious..

decided to contribute,


your not going to get out of it, your best bet is to go in there and try not to look spoiled. you will probably go to a juvenile hearing officer who just has a sort of chart that lists the crimes and penalties, meaning he isn't a real judge. if you can come off not looking like a spoiled brat (most of the people the guy deals with all day long) your chances are a little better.

just wondering, whats your gpa

Is it your first driving offense?
If so, try for driving school.

Do not be cocky and do your best to look/act like you're not spoiled.

How did you admit to it? Did he ask how fast you were going and you tell him? Or did do something more roundabout... "I clocked you at 125, did you realize you were speeding?"... something of that sort.

If at all possible without looking like you're lying, just go the "I'm only 16, haven't been driving long, and didn't realize I was really going that fast."

You'll probably get driving school and have it off your record.
I did the same for a ticket for 90 in a 50.

Oh and slow down. When I was 16 with my little Ford Taurus I found that it had the abilities to set cruise control and to reach just under 130, and used them both together almost every time I hit the interstate.
BAD IDEA, it will catch up with you.
Slow down.

gpa: 3.3

it was more of a "i clocked you at 125mph, what the hell were you thinking?"
"im sorry officer, i really have no explanation"

im not stuck up, but i'll be extra humble...haha
im hoping for driving school :\

You're fucked.

this lol

The amount of points you have doesn't necessarily reflect the cost of your insurance. I have three speeding tickets and two other moving violations with only 2 points and my insurance is fucking ridiculous. Lawyer up and have your lawyer talk to the traffic prosecutor. Strike up a deal and hopefully the judge will accept it.

i plead "admit responsibility with explanation"

kissing major ass.
will get my decision by mail. i'll let you know how it goes.

gpa: 3.3
\

thats interesting, the hearing officer that talked to me when i was 16 with my first ticket asked me and told me how he had been keeping track for his own interest and found that almost everybody who came in to see him had over a 3.0


i didn't

i really do have a 3.3 tho. lol

i got all 4 points.
yay!

This is an excerpt from The Art Of Deception by Kevin Mitnick...


TRAFFIC COURT
Probably everyone who has ever been given a speeding ticket has daydreamed
about some way of beating it. Not by going to traffic school, or simply paying the
fine, or taking a chance on trying to convince the judge about some technicality
like how long it has been since the police-car speedometer or the radar gun was
checked. No, the sweetest scenario would be beating the ticket by outsmarting the
system.

The Con
Although I would not recommend trying this method of beating a traffic ticket (as
the saying goes, don't try this at home) still, this is a good example of how the art
of deception can be used to help the social engineer.
Let's call this traffic violater Paul Durea.

First Steps
"LAPD, Hollenbeck Division."
"Hi, I'd like to talk to the Subpoena Control."
"I'm the subpoena clerk."
"Fine. This is Attorney John Leland, of Meecham, Meecham, and Talbott. I need
to subpoena an officer on a case."
"Okay, which officer?"
"Do you have Officer Kendall in your division?"
"What's his serial number?"
"21349."
"Yes. When do you need him?"
"Some time next month, but I need to subpoena several other witnesses on the
case and then tell the court what days will work for us. Are there any days next
month Officer Kendall won't be available?"
"Let's see... He has vacation days on the 20th through the 23rd, and he has
training days on the 8th and 16th."
"Thanks. That's all I need right now. I'll call you back when the court date is set."

Municipal Court, Clerk’s Counter
Paul: "I'd like to schedule a court date on this traffic ticket."
Clerk: "Okay. I can give you the 26th of next month."
"Well, I'd like to schedule an arraignment."
"You want an arraignment on a traffic ticket?"
"Yes."
"Okay. We can set the arraignment tomorrow in the morning or afternoon. What
would you like?"
"Afternoon."
"Arraignment is tomorrow at 1:30 P.M. in Courtroom Six." "Thanks. I'll be
there."

Municipal Court, Courtroom Six
Date: Thursday, 1:45 P.M.
Clerk: "Mr. Durea, please approach the bench."
Judge: "Mr. Durea, do you understand the rights that have been explained to you
this afternoon?"
Paul: "Yes, your honor."
Judge: "Do you want to take the opportunity to attend traffic school? Your case
will be dismissed after successful completion of an eight-hour course. I've
checked your record and you are presently eligible."
Paul: "No, your honor. I respectfully request that the case be set for trial. One
more thing, your honor, I'll be travelling out of the country, but I'm available on
the 8th or 9th. Would it be possible to set my case for trial on either of those
days? I'm leaving on a business trip for Europe tomorrow, and I return in four
weeks."
Judge: "Very well. Trial is set for June 8th, 8:30 A.M., Courtroom Four."
Paul: "Thank you, your honor."

Municipal Court, Courtroom Four
Paul arrived at court early on the 8th. When the judge came in, the clerk gave him
a list of the cases for which the officers had not appeared. The judge called the
defendants, including Paul, and told them their cases were dismissed.

Analyzing the Con
When an officer writes a ticket, he signs it with his name and his badge number
(or whatever his personal number is called in his agency). Finding his station is a
piece of cake. A call to directory assistance with the name of the law enforcement
agency shown on the citation (highway patrol, county sheriff, or whatever) is
enough to get a foot in the door. Once the agency is contacted, they can refer the
caller to the correct telephone number for the subpoena clerk serving the
geographical area where the traffic stop was made.
Law enforcement officers are subpoenaed for court appearances with regularity;
it comes with the territory. When a district attorney or a defense lawyer needs an
officer to testify, if he knows how the system works, he first checks to make sure
the officer will be available. That's easy to do; it just takes a call to the subpoena
clerk for that agency.
Usually in those conversations, the attorney asks if the officer in question will be
available on such-and-such a date. For this ruse, Paul needed a bit of tact; he had
to offer a plausible reason why the clerk should tell him what dates the officer
would not be available.
When he first went to the court building, why didn't Paul simply tell the
court clerk what date he wanted? Easy--from what I understand, traffic-court
clerks in most places don't allow members of the public to select court dates. If a
date the clerk suggests doesn't work for the person, she'll offer an alternative or
two, but that's as far as she will bend. On the other hand, anyone who is willing to
take the extra time of showing up for an arraignment is likely to have better luck.
Paul knew he was entitled to ask for an arraignment. And he knew the judges are
often willing to accommodate a request for a specific date. He carefully asked for
dates that coincided with the officer's training days, knowing that in his state,
officer training takes precedence over an appearance in traffic court.

MITNICK MESSAGE
The human mind is a marvelous creation. It's interesting to note how imaginative
people can be at developing deceptive ways to get what they want or to get out of
a sticky situation. You have to use the same creativity and imagination to
safeguard information and computer systems in the public and private sectors. So,
folks, when devising your company's security policies--be creative and think
outside the box.
And in traffic court, when the officer does not show up--case dismissed. No
fines. No traffic school. No points. And, best of all, no record of a traffic offense!
My guess is that some police officials, court officers, district attorneys and the
like will read this story and shake their heads because they know that this
ruse does work. But shaking their heads is all they'll do. Nothing will change. I'd
be willing to bet on it. As the character Cosmo says in the 1992 movie Sneakers,
"It's all about the ones and zeros"--meaning that in the end, everything comes
down to information.
As long as law enforcement agencies are willing to give information about an
officer's schedule to virtually anyone who calls, the ability to get out of traffic
tickets will always exist. Do you have similar gaps in your company or
organization's procedures that a clever social engineer can take advantage of to
get information you'd rather they didn't have?


Yea, this probably would not work... but if you could pull it off it would be a cool story to tell.

Why would you go so fast and not expect to get a ticket? There's a real easy way to avoid costly tickets and even costlier points on your license: don't fucking speed, idiot.

So how much was the fine?

edit: If I were the judge and some 16 year old came in with such a ridiculous speeding ticket, I'd have his license suspended until he was 18 and make him take a course and all other sorts of shit.

Why would you go so fast and not expect to get a ticket? There's a real easy way to avoid costly tickets and even costlier points on your license: don't fucking speed, idiot.

So how much was the fine?

edit: If I were the judge and some 16 year old came in with such a ridiculous speeding ticket, I'd have his license suspended until he was 18 and make him take a course and all other sorts of shit.

1) $226, and 4 points
2) thats why you aren't a judge
3) fuck you, don't tell me not to speed.

16yr old here. MI, USA....


last night i got a ticket for 125mph in a 70mph zone....


(PS- asshole comments are not appreciated.)

Good.

1) $226, and 4 points
2) thats why you aren't a judge
3) fuck you, don't tell me not to speed.

You're a poster boy for the "raise the driving age to 18" movement.

your going to loose your liscence, they're not just going to put this away if you show up for court. in CT you woulda lost your liscence right THEN AND THERE, and on top of that had your car impounded. count your blessings. your insurance is fucked too, assuming your a white male...

how many points does it take to loose your liscence and how many are you looking at loosing?

You're a poster boy for the "raise the driving age to 18" movement.

How about you shut the fuck up and stop telling people how to live their fucking lives

If people want to speed they are going to speed

simple

and as if you have never sped a day in your life
STFU

How about you shut the fuck up and stop telling people how to live their fucking lives

If people want to speed they are going to speed

simple

and as if you have never sped a day in your life
STFU

woohoo, i have a fanbase now :)

@ vilbe:

in michigan, you start off with 0 points. if you get 6 points on a graduated license (16 yrs old) you lose it. 12 points on a normal license.
i got my graduated extended by one year, so until 07/2009, if i get up to 6 points, i lose my license.

How about you shut the fuck up and stop telling people how to live their fucking lives

If people want to speed they are going to speed

simple

and as if you have never sped a day in your life
STFU

Telling people how to live their lives? Lawl, wtf are you talking about? Please point out to me where I did that. Dumb Ass here (the OP) came in all butthurt and wanting help to get out of a ticket he 110% deserves, worried he would lose his driving privileges because his insurance would be way too much. If Dumb Ass wants to speed recklessly, then fine. But then he's got no right to bitch when he gets a ticket and points on his license, because what the fuck did he expect to happen? The cop would pull him over, they'd have a great big hearty lul, and then share a joint?

And I never drive more than 5-10 mph over the posted speed limit. Unless someone is going slow in front of me, I never drive slower than that either. 5 mph over isn't enough for a cop to care about pulling you over, and it's never some stupid ass unsafe speed like 125. :rolleyes:

in michigan, you start off with 0 points. if you get 6 points on a graduated license (16 yrs old) you lose it. 12 points on a normal license.
i got my graduated extended by one year, so until 07/2009, if i get up to 6 points, i lose my license.

quite different than CT's scheme...

so you have 4 points now? how long do the points take to expire? [is it 3 years?] your lucky your state doesn't have specific laws regarding teen driving and things like this...



so pay the fine [on time too]. you did the right thing by admitting the obvious. you probally would of been hassled to shit [and searched] if you tried either playing dumb or denial.



but just to state the obvious..
And I never drive more than 5-10 mph over the posted speed limit.

is a great way to never get a speeding ticket, or pulled over.

@whocares123

obviously you have not experienced the pleasure and rush of going an "unsafe" speed of 125mph.

Plead no contest when you get to court, pay the fine and go to traffic school on Saturday so you don't lose any points.

has no one read the thread?

for the 3rd time:

i got 4 points on my license
paid a $226 fine

if i get 2 more points, my license is suspended

has no one read the thread?

for the 3rd time:

i got 4 points on my license
paid a $226 fine

if i get 2 more points, my license is suspended

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/auto/20070330_traffic_ticket_court_a1.asp

Fuck dude, google.

Hey, in Oregon ADULTS get fined $1,000 for going over 100MPH and they lose their license for 30-90 days.
So you are lucky, you dumb fuck.

@whocares123

obviously you have not experienced the pleasure and rush of going an "unsafe" speed of 125mph.

Well I was in the car one time when my dumb ass friend sped up to 113 on the highway at night while there were barely any other cars around. Which was retarded to do because his car is an old piece of shit that could die at any time, we only had to go two exits, and a ticket probably would've cost him his license. I felt no thrill, nigger. Just "well this is dumb." Go on a roller coaster for that thrill shit.

Anyway, point is you deserved your ticket and points and fuck you.

1) $226, and 4 points
2) thats why you aren't a judge
3) fuck you, don't tell me not to speed.

Damn, traffic fines are low where you live.

125mph in a 70mph zone?

55mph over the speed limit = your gonna get raped.

Murder/suicide is now your only option.

In aus, if you were caught going that fast you'd lose your license for 6 months, get a $2000 fine, and either get your car impounded for 72hours or up to 3 months OR lose it indefinately.

125mph in a 70mph zone?

55mph over the speed limit = your gonna get raped.

Murder/suicide is now your only option.

In aus, if you were caught going that fast you'd lose your license for 6 months, get a $2000 fine, and either get your car impounded for 72hours or up to 3 months OR lose it indefinately.
Australia is queer.

Holy shit dude. I'm 17 MI, USA. I live in Plymouth (near Northville, Canton, and Livonia). Where are you?

Anyways, I got caught doing 50 in a 25mph zone. I got a huge ass fine and barely avoided getting points. You're fucked, son.

Holy shit dude. I'm 17 MI, USA. I live in Plymouth (near Northville, Canton, and Livonia). Where are you?

Anyways, I got caught doing 50 in a 25mph zone. I got a huge ass fine and barely avoided getting points. You're fucked, son.

i know im fucked, haha, i got 4 points and paid the fucker.
its been two months, insurance hasn't gone up yet!

i'm in oakland county, btw. near troy, royal oak, birmingham.

125mph in a 70mph zone?

55mph over the speed limit = your gonna get raped.

Murder/suicide is now your only option.

In aus, if you were caught going that fast you'd lose your license for 6 months, get a $2000 fine, and either get your car impounded for 72hours or up to 3 months OR lose it indefinately.

But what are the odds of betting caught going that fast? There can't be THAT many cops in the fucking desert.

i know im fucked, haha, i got 4 points and paid the fucker.
its been two months, insurance hasn't gone up yet!

i'm in oakland county, btw. near troy, royal oak, birmingham.

Yeah, auto insurance companies are pretty shitty. Sometimes they won't notice you got a ticket until you crash or something else happens that they have to look at your record.

Did they take away your license or are you good for now?

Yeah, auto insurance companies are pretty shitty. Sometimes they won't notice you got a ticket until you crash or something else happens that they have to look at your record.

Did they take away your license or are you good for now?

nope, i have my license still. a suspension happens on a graduated drivers license when it gets 6 points, i have 4 points.
=D

Nice.

Michigan &T, Unite!