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stateofhack
2008-07-30, 08:38
Fucking first! and i loled at "the spice must flow" of Joe, well played sir!

DiamondX
2008-07-30, 09:04
first reply in new bullshit thread.:D

I R WINRAR

laundrysoap
2008-07-30, 09:31
Second reply~~

(space reserved)

stupid noob
2008-07-30, 09:44
Thank you SoH.


And who the hell has been messing with the tags lately? I'm not bitching, it's actually funny as hell. I have no problem with it, just wondering who has the great sense of humor is all.

laundrysoap
2008-07-30, 09:47
And who the hell has been messing with the tags lately?

Who can? I notice that I can't.

Von Bass
2008-07-30, 10:14
Who can? I notice that I can't.

You add the tags yourself when you make a thread, you can add pretty much whatever you want, but a limit of 10.

Oh and,

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z132/benzowarrior/shitlulz/lulz.jpghttp://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z132/benzowarrior/shitlulz/120793867193.jpg

Damn chanfaggotry :(

laundrysoap
2008-07-30, 10:16
You add the tags yourself when you make a thread, you can add pretty much whatever you want, but a limit of 10.


I know that... but....
SN said that somebody was messing with the tags. That would insinuate that it isn't EVERYBODY that makes a thread in here.

BTW to the person dicking with the tags, I know that I fail. Fuck you too bitch.

stupid noob
2008-07-30, 10:23
LOL!



Actually, I did not know you set tags when you make the thread, because I thought I saw jenkins using words in the thread in his posts, and they would show up, but the tags here aren't in any post yet.


So I guess I learned something new. State of Hack is watching me, and only the OP, and mods can change tags, and only in your own forum.


In other words, I added the laundrysoap fails tag. lol. Just trying to fuck with you a bit.

laundrysoap
2008-07-30, 10:31
In other words, I added the laundrysoap fails tag. lol. Just trying to fuck with you a bit.


Well.... I knew it was down to you or stateofhack...

:(

stupid noob
2008-07-30, 10:58
i did it for the lulz

stateofhack
2008-07-30, 10:58
Thank you SoH.


And who the hell has been messing with the tags lately? I'm not bitching, it's actually funny as hell. I have no problem with it, just wondering who has the great sense of humor is all.

Welcome..as for the tags well... lol

You add the tags yourself when you make a thread, you can add pretty much whatever you want, but a limit of 10.

Oh and,

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z132/benzowarrior/shitlulz/lulz.jpghttp://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z132/benzowarrior/shitlulz/120793867193.jpg

Damn chanfaggotry :(

Careful you, internet serious business! :mad:

Well.... I knew it was down to you or stateofhack...

:(

I knew it was down to you or stateofhack...

:(
to you or stateofhack...

:(
to you or stateofhack...

:(
stateofhack...

:(

Shit i jsut gave it away :(

JoePedo
2008-07-31, 00:58
Damn chanfaggotry :(

Nope. 's a different kind of faggotry altogether. ;)

i loled at "the spice must flow" of Joe, well played sir!

Thanks. ;)

Y'might wanna enjoy it now, 'cause I'm guessing LT is gonna be sick of it in about five years... ;) Eat nutmeg, post in the BS thread, repeat... lol. Dunno why... just always happens.

Eldorhan
2008-07-31, 01:44
Well then, after getting flamed to death :

Top 11 Drug PSA
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/nostalgia-critic/34-nostalgia-critic/473-top-11-drug-psas

Drug cartoons:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/nostalgia-critic/34-nostalgia-critic/49-drug-cartoon-special

Home: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/nostalgia-critic

His batman & robin review is absolutely hilarious :D

DiamondX
2008-08-01, 02:31
I vote for this thread to be renamed /BS/, since it seems like it has a strong *chan influence. :mad:

Hey SN, you seem to be in a pretty good mood lately, how's your leg?

SpeedyDreamer
2008-08-01, 04:26
I wanna know why I can't post attachments.?:(

DiamondX
2008-08-01, 04:28
I wanna know why I can't post attachments.?:(

You need to use rapidshit/megaupload/etc. What were you going to attach?

SpeedyDreamer
2008-08-01, 04:35
Drug cartoons:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid...artoon-special (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid...artoon-special)


A little long winded but funny as hell.

You need to use rapidshit/megaupload/etc. What were you going to attach?

nothing particular it doiesn't give me an attahment option. Unless i'm just missing it. LOL and at the bottom it says, " you may not post attachments"

DiamondX
2008-08-01, 05:39
Yea, Jeff disabled a lot of the features, to keep it similar to the old BBS.

Naminator01
2008-08-01, 09:01
R2d2 lightning up...

"I'm not a chicken, you're a turkey!"

Eldorhan
2008-08-01, 10:47
R2d2 lightning up...

"I'm not a chicken, you're a turkey!"

Check his batman and robin one xD

"Do i really need to make fun of this ?" :D

JoePedo
2008-08-03, 05:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRpEy97eDKA

:D

DiamondX
2008-08-03, 12:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRpEy97eDKA

:D

lolwut? are you the only person older than 12 who enjoys eggnog?

stateofhack
2008-08-03, 13:48
I vote for this thread to be renamed /BS/, since it seems like it has a strong *chan influence. :mad:


Eh you! Without much of the "chan crap" a lot of the internet funny shit would not be around. Anyways i was chatting with another member and i/he was looking for some good rave music, anyone care to recommend? Possibly "American" because i have quite a bit of the European stuff.

Thanks :)

fcknut
2008-08-03, 15:57
Eh you! Without much of the "chan crap" a lot of the internet funny shit would not be around. Anyways i was chatting with another member and i/he was looking for some good rave music, anyone care to recommend? Possibly "American" because i have quite a bit of the European stuff.

Thanks :)

what's "rave" music...?

I was always partial to a spot of Mauro Picotto in my clubbing days...

stupid noob
2008-08-04, 00:24
Bass Nectar is some good trippin music. Also The Crystal Method is another of my favorites.

DiamondX
2008-08-04, 00:51
Eh you! Without much of the "chan crap" a lot of the internet funny shit would not be around. Anyways i was chatting with another member and i/he was looking for some good rave music, anyone care to recommend? Possibly "American" because i have quite a bit of the European stuff.

Thanks :)

Hey, who said it was crap? All I'm suggesting is that we rename this thread to better reflect the content. :mad:

A quick chem question... does vacuum filtration produce a purer product than normal gravity filtration, assuming all other variables are the same, or does it just speed it up? There is an old irrigation tunnel going straight though a mountain where I live, and in the middle of it is a cup hanging from the top of the tunnel collecting water that was filtered all the way through the mountain. There is an old legend that the water that drips down has the mana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana#Mana_in_Polynesian_culture) of the mountain. I don't think the irrigation tunnel isn't used for irrigation anymore, but people sometimes hike up to the upper end of it with boogieboards and float down to the other side of the island, and drink from the cup when they get to it.

Also, yesterday at work there was a fundraiser outside where I work collecting money to "fight drug abuse." When they were packing up to leave they parked their van in the handicapped stall. Damn I wanted to give them a fucking ticket for that. :mad:

I think of some pretty random stuff at work... donno why I just typed all that out, Im kinda bored.

stateofhack
2008-08-04, 08:37
Bass Nectar is some good trippin music. Also The Crystal Method is another of my favorites.

Thanks, will download :)

Sexual_Jesus
2008-08-04, 13:36
edit ’

UK_TOM
2008-08-05, 12:48
Hey, who said it was crap? All I'm suggesting is that we rename this thread to better reflect the content. :mad:

A quick chem question... does vacuum filtration produce a purer product than normal gravity filtration, assuming all other variables are the same, or does it just speed it up? There is an old irrigation tunnel going straight though a mountain where I live, and in the middle of it is a cup hanging from the top of the tunnel collecting water that was filtered all the way through the mountain. There is an old legend that the water that drips down has the mana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana#Mana_in_Polynesian_culture) of the mountain. I don't think the irrigation tunnel isn't used for irrigation anymore, but people sometimes hike up to the upper end of it with boogieboards and float down to the other side of the island, and drink from the cup when they get to it.

Also, yesterday at work there was a fundraiser outside where I work collecting money to "fight drug abuse." When they were packing up to leave they parked their van in the handicapped stall. Damn I wanted to give them a fucking ticket for that. :mad:

I think of some pretty random stuff at work... donno why I just typed all that out, Im kinda bored.

I used to live right next to a volcano, it was snowcapped even in the height of summer (35c average) anyway, the snow that melted very slowly filtered down through the volcanic rock and came out at the bottom as seriously ice cold water - there was a wooden channel made out of a tree that caught some of this water and had cups all along the side for thirsty travellers - it was/is the finest water I've ever tasted in my life, absolutely gorgeous, ice cold and although just water, it was.....just so damn good!!!

It's now being sold as the regions mineral water or you can fill containers up for free at the source (In the UK someone like that infamous cunt, Rupert Murdoch, would've bought it up through shady deals behind the scenes and fenced it off. Finishing it all of with a bottling factory next to it with signs saying, 'Private Property - Intruders will be considered Terrorists and shot on sight.'

What Sky does to television is absolutely cuntish in the extreme, wanker, total f'ing wanker!

Eldorhan
2008-08-05, 13:06
In the UK someone like that infamous cunt, Rupert Murdoch, would've bought it up through shady deals behind the scenes and fenced it off. Finishing it all of with a bottling factory next to it with signs saying, 'Private Property - Intruders will be considered Terrorists and shot on sight.'


Lol, that's ultra-liberalism for you :cool:

Living near a volcano must be convenient tho :

- *KRAKBOOOOOM*
- Wasn't me, it's teh crazy volcano !!! :D

stateofhack
2008-08-05, 18:51
What does everyone use to "pack" there columns here? I have never done this before if i recall correctly :(

help?

DiamondX
2008-08-05, 20:56
What does everyone use to "pack" there columns here? I have never done this before if i recall correctly :(

help?

Marbles? Borosilicate glass wool?

Not that I've ever packed a column...

Edit: Is someone starting a tag war?

stateofhack
2008-08-05, 21:33
Marbles? Borosilicate glass wool?

Not that I've ever packed a column...

Edit: Is someone starting a tag war?

Tag war ftw, for shit and giggles.

Actually marbles sounds like a good idea!

thanks for that!

DjFloridaDeathTrip
2008-08-06, 00:46
HAI GAIZ!

sorry about the thread the other day was just pissed at the world and needed to vent,can't say it won't happen again...Anyways whats up speedy man?Wish I could take you up on that offer but someone who is me is caught up in a finacial strain at the moment...When harvest time comes up here soon I'm going to fuck my county up!!!!Been getting 1 or 2 boxes a day and I'm almost there...Still have a shitload of the red metal and all will be good,,:cool:
Keep cool guy's..


p.s sorry about that shit the other day noob...

stupid noob
2008-08-06, 02:56
Fuck yeah man, good to see you doing well. Give em hell.

JoePedo
2008-08-06, 05:00
What does everyone use to "pack" there columns here? I have never done this before if i recall correctly :(

help?

Smash beer bottle. Pick out medium-small pieces. Fire-polish. Pack. ;)

Basically, it's a tradeoff between trying to force the shit through as much distance as possible, and not getting microscopic bits of glass floating around in your eyeball...

stateofhack
2008-08-06, 08:07
i did it for the lulz

I knew it was you ;)

Smash beer bottle. Pick out medium-small pieces. Fire-polish. Pack. ;)

Basically, it's a tradeoff between trying to force the shit through as much distance as possible, and not getting microscopic bits of glass floating around in your eyeball...

I have quite a gew beer bottles i could do that with :) Would porcelain work too? (old mug)?

fcknut
2008-08-06, 09:04
I knew it was you ;)



I have quite a gew beer bottles i could do that with :) Would porcelain work too? (old mug)?


I've a feeling you might find that things start to get trapped inside ceramic materials, though maybe not for long.

JoePedo
2008-08-08, 11:38
lolwut? are you the only person older than 12 who enjoys eggnog?

I has no choice.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6488/spicelolies7.jpg

Lolisan has exhorted, and must be obeyed...

stateofhack
2008-08-08, 14:02
I has no choice.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6488/spicelolies7.jpg

Lolisan has exhorted, and must be obeyed...

*waits for obvious brbfbi comment*

stupid noob
2008-08-08, 14:55
I has no choice.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6488/spicelolies7.jpg

Lolisan has exhorted, and must be obeyed...
wow thats pretty fucked up

MrSparkle
2008-08-08, 21:59
I has no choice.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6488/spicelolies7.jpg

Lolisan has exhorted, and must be obeyed...

I don't get it. Whats all this talk of eggnog? I went to a new years party one night and there was heaps of free eggnog and I swear to god I musta puked up 10 liters of the shit. Your so drunk you don't realize its making you feel sick until its too late. A bit like tequila.

JoePedo
2008-08-09, 03:14
wow thats pretty fucked up

You mean the fact that the imaginary loli in my head tell me to eat hallucinogens and I obey? Or just the notion of a 4 year old girl rolling around eating hallucinogenic spice 'till her eyes turn blue?

Just curious...

stupid noob
2008-08-09, 04:36
Both and more.

SpeedyDreamer
2008-08-09, 06:32
HAI GAIZ!

sorry about the thread the other day was just pissed at the world and needed to vent,can't say it won't happen again...Anyways whats up speedy man?Wish I could take you up on that offer but someone who is me is caught up in a finacial strain at the moment...When harvest time comes up here soon I'm going to fuck my county up!!!!Been getting 1 or 2 boxes a day and I'm almost there...Still have a shitload of the red metal and all will be good,,:cool:
Keep cool guy's..


p.s sorry about that shit the other day noob...



I think everyones in a financial strain except the rich and the richer. I stay pissed at the world. For the past 23 years if I didn;t see tomorrow it would suit me fine. But still hangin in. Well if anything breaks, I got plenty of room so all you'll need is gas money. Just let me know. Later.

JoePedo
2008-08-09, 23:34
I lol'd...

http://www.anti-meth.org/neighborhood.html

According to these geniuses, one sign that your neighbor might have a meth lab is if they've got a supply of phenyl-2-propane lying around.

I'm just a newbie - could anyone draw that for me? Not phenyl-2-propene, occasionally known as allylbenzene, or 2-phenylpropane, or phenyl-2-propanone... but can anyone show me a molecular diagram for this "phenyl-2-propane" crap??

I have faith that we will win the hearts and minds of the people on the basis of the fact that the government is comprised of idiots who, obvious to the world, have no idea what they're talking about...

stupid noob
2008-08-10, 03:40
I lol'd...

http://www.anti-meth.org/neighborhood.html

According to these geniuses, one sign that your neighbor might have a meth lab is if they've got a supply of phenyl-2-propane lying around.

I'm just a newbie - could anyone draw that for me? Not phenyl-2-propene, occasionally known as allylbenzene, or 2-phenylpropane, or phenyl-2-propanone... but can anyone show me a molecular diagram for this "phenyl-2-propane" crap??

I have faith that we will win the hearts and minds of the people on the basis of the fact that the government is comprised of idiots who, obvious to the world, have no idea what they're talking about...
But you forget that the same hearts and minds we are trying to win over are just as ignorant as the people in our government, if not much more so, which is why all the fear mongering and scare tactics have worked thus far.

JoePedo
2008-08-10, 03:55
I don't get it. Whats all this talk of eggnog?

I'm glad you asked. Admittedly, I had to change this evening's diet to be able to properly answer your question, but I've been waiting for this for a while.

Here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViLaYKUOD9Y

...is an educational video which should explain everything you ever needed to know. :D

Just in case you missed it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViLaYKUOD9Y

...yup. :D

Naturally, people who regularly perform reenactments of contemporary literature (http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg.shtml) as a hobby sometimes find people flicking them shit on internet message boards for some reason. However, it's a perfectly natural, healthy way to enhance one's quality of life and further one's personal, emotional, spiritual, and human growth, which is always a noble goal.

Questions?

Eldorhan
2008-08-10, 08:03
But you forget that the same hearts and minds we are trying to win over are just as ignorant as the people in our government, if not much more so, which is why all the fear mongering and scare tactics have worked thus far.

George Carlin :

http://rapidshare.de/files/40200835/Georges_Carlin.mp3.html

LISTEN TO IT

DiamondX
2008-08-10, 09:11
Tag war ftw, for the lulz.

fixed:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViLaYKUOD9Y?This video is not available in your country.

:eek:WTF???:mad:

stateofhack
2008-08-10, 10:12
I lol'd...

http://www.anti-meth.org/neighborhood.html

According to these geniuses, one sign that your neighbor might have a meth lab is if they've got a supply of phenyl-2-propane lying around.

I'm just a newbie - could anyone draw that for me? Not phenyl-2-propene, occasionally known as allylbenzene, or 2-phenylpropane, or phenyl-2-propanone... but can anyone show me a molecular diagram for this "phenyl-2-propane" crap??

I have faith that we will win the hearts and minds of the people on the basis of the fact that the government is comprised of idiots who, obvious to the world, have no idea what they're talking about...

haha wtf i died inside :(.

Gonna drop them a mail and explain them the difference tonight.

fixed:mad:



:eek:WTF???:mad:

lol wtf you live in N.korea or what ?

DiamondX
2008-08-10, 11:04
haha wtf i died inside :(.

Gonna drop them a mail and explain them the difference tonight.



lol wtf you live in N.korea or what ?

USA, honestly! WTF, I though google was better than this! I fucking hate censorship! :mad:

Eldorhan
2008-08-10, 15:26
USA, honestly! WTF, I though google was better than this! I fucking hate censorship! :mad:

Lol dude, Google is owned by a jewish conglomerate.

Free speech is something that makes no sense to a jew, hence why they censor all the time.

stateofhack
2008-08-10, 22:44
USA, honestly! WTF, I though google was better than this! I fucking hate censorship! :mad:

Lol wtf, i get that sometimes too, i do not have an explanation for it tho' :(

Lol dude, Google is owned by a jewish conglomerate.

Free speech is something that makes no sense to a jew, hence why they censor all the time.

haha the jews are behind it again ;)

sidenote: http://www.anti-meth.org/contact.html

I sent them a mail, if anyone else wants too, more then welcome :d

Eldorhan
2008-08-11, 00:00
haha the jews are behind it again ;)


Don't believe me ? Goog... Herm... Altavista it :D

CEO Eric Schmidt... Now if that's not jewish i'm the pope ! (Schmidt was derived from Schmitzer/Schmidzer after WW2) :p


sidenote: http://www.anti-meth.org/contact.html

I sent them a mail, if anyone else wants too, more then welcome :d

:mad:

Why means they'll become more educated, which means they'll cry more and eventually wake up some mindless DEA/FDA bureaucrat who will decide : "Hey lol, today i'm gonna put level 1 restrictions on methanol !" :(

Now that's me reducing it to absurdity but i think it's best not to educate/feed the crybabies. It's like if men handed the idea of feminism to womens. Oh wait they did... fucking morons... xD

Von Bass
2008-08-11, 11:11
sidenote: http://www.anti-meth.org/contact.html

I sent them a mail, if anyone else wants too, more then welcome :d

Did you claim jenkem to be a much worse problem to today's society, and that they should concentrate on banning faecal matter and balloons in order to stop the epidemic of butthash-huffing teenagers?

stateofhack
2008-08-11, 11:22
Don't believe me ? Goog... Herm... Altavista it :D

CEO Eric Schmidt... Now if that's not jewish i'm the pope ! (Schmidt was derived from Schmitzer/Schmidzer after WW2) :p



:mad:

Why means they'll become more educated, which means they'll cry more and eventually wake up some mindless DEA/FDA bureaucrat who will decide : "Hey lol, today i'm gonna put level 1 restrictions on methanol !" :(

Now that's me reducing it to absurdity but i think it's best not to educate/feed the crybabies. It's like if men handed the idea of feminism to womens. Oh wait they did... fucking morons... xD

Oh god here we go again ;)
As of yet no reply , lets leave them a couple of days and see...

Eldorhan
2008-08-11, 18:45
Spilled 250ml of denatured ethyl alcohol by accident.

THIS SMELL IS KILLING ME. It tainted my whole fucking apartment !

:(

Von Bass
2008-08-11, 19:27
Spilled 250ml of denatured ethyl alcohol by accident.

THIS SMELL IS KILLING ME. It tainted my whole fucking apartment !

:(

Could be worse, could have spilled 250g of indole, or 250ml of pyridine... :p

At least EtOH will evaporate cleanly and quite quickly too.

Eldorhan
2008-08-11, 20:10
Could be worse, could have spilled 250g of indole, or 250ml of pyridine... :p

At least EtOH will evaporate cleanly and quite quickly too.

Well it's been 4 hours with constant air flow. It's STILL STINKING and i got mild headache now. Grrr. :mad:

Considerably less, but it's still there (or i got used to the smell...)

DiamondX
2008-08-12, 01:23
BromicAcid from SM is doing a book on chemistry, written for beginners. Maybe LT can contribute?

website: http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/bookprogress.htm

thread: https://sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2529

stateofhack
2008-08-14, 00:05
Did you claim jenkem to be a much worse problem to today's society, and that they should concentrate on banning faecal matter and balloons in order to stop the epidemic of butthash-huffing teenagers?

*Write up new email*

Spilled 250ml of denatured ethyl alcohol by accident.

THIS SMELL IS KILLING ME. It tainted my whole fucking apartment !

:(

Tell me about it :( i had some evaporation and it give me head rushes when i get up to quickly :mad:

BromicAcid from SM is doing a book on chemistry, written for beginners. Maybe LT can contribute?

website: http://www.destructve.com/bromicacid/bookprogress.htm

thread: https://sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2529

Nice read, maybe i will contribute :) My picture quality is shit tho' :( :mad:

DjFloridaDeathTrip
2008-08-14, 00:23
State of hack,I like you dude.....Hearing your shit over the last couple of years makes me realize you're not such a lil nooblet after all..



what the fuck happend to speedys bs thread?To many replys or something but yeah.

stateofhack
2008-08-14, 01:14
State of hack,I like you dude.....Hearing your shit over the last couple of years makes me realize you're not such a lil nooblet after all..



what the fuck happend to speedys bs thread?To many replys or something but yeah.

:) Thanks nice to know ;)

Do you ever use MSN or gmail? Drop me a line it would be nice to speak to an "older" one, i actually skimmed thought some of your stuff a few years back ;)

stateofhack at hotmail dot com

yes seedy's thread was closed for to many replies because it fucks up the thread system, i think.

Eldorhan
2008-08-14, 01:31
Fucked up a NC batch today :(

Probably didn't let it nitrate long enough, but i thought 1 hour in 96% sulfuric and ammonium nitrate would do for... kleenexes !

Let me personally thank god for the sudden 180° turn-around of the fucking wind.

My nose reminded me of its importance for about 15 minutes ! :mad:

stupid noob
2008-08-14, 06:38
Fucked up a NC batch today :(

Probably didn't let it nitrate long enough, but i thought 1 hour in 96% sulfuric and ammonium nitrate would do for... kleenexes !

Let me personally thank god for the sudden 180° turn-around of the fucking wind.

My nose reminded me of its importance for about 15 minutes ! :mad:
Wait till you get to play with some HNO3, you think an xnitrate nitration bath fumes, HNO3/H2SO4 is intense.

fcknut
2008-08-14, 09:05
Wait till you get to play with some HNO3, you think an xnitrate nitration bath fumes, HNO3/H2SO4 is intense.


Oooh oooh ! PBr3 ! PBr3 !

Fumey goodness!

Nasty-orange-brown-toxic-as-fumey goodness!

JoePedo
2008-08-14, 09:42
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8152/12168349485spiceoy6.jpg

Kirby was Here.

DiamondX
2008-08-14, 10:01
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8152/12168349485spiceoy6.jpg

Kirby was Here.

lulzwtfbbq

hai gaiz. im fucked up on maybe 30-40mg morphine sulfate (intranasal), and a 40oz so sry if i dont type very well. i bought a morphine 200mg and i was wondering if you guys think i should try freebasing and smoking it. this is the first time in a few months that ive had an opiate so im pretty happy. also the first time i tried morphine. also i tried shrooms for the first time yesterday. 2grams. not what i was expecting. no OEVs and i couldnt close my eyes to check for CEVs.

edit hey stupid noob man, you gotta get on msn i havnt talked to you in a fucking long time.

stateofhack
2008-08-14, 12:51
Fucked up a NC batch today :(

Probably didn't let it nitrate long enough, but i thought 1 hour in 96% sulfuric and ammonium nitrate would do for... kleenexes !

Let me personally thank god for the sudden 180° turn-around of the fucking wind.

My nose reminded me of its importance for about 15 minutes ! :mad:

NC= nitrocellulose yeah?

I used cotton from the pharmacy, works a lot better and less crap in there. As for the fumes yeah its nasty shit :(

Wait till you get to play with some HNO3, you think an xnitrate nitration bath fumes, HNO3/H2SO4 is intense.

second that!

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8152/12168349485spiceoy6.jpg

Kirby was Here.

i c wut u did thar :mad:

Eldorhan
2008-08-14, 13:35
NC= nitrocellulose yeah?

I used cotton from the pharmacy, works a lot better and less crap in there. As for the fumes yeah its nasty shit :(



Well, these kleenexes were marketted 100% cellulose wadding. My guess is that i totally didn't let it nitrate enough.

When it burns it makes a weird greenish flame and leaves some orange crap on whatever it was standing on.

:(

Next time i'm nitrating for a fuckin' entire day ! In plain sunlight ! :D

Von Bass
2008-08-14, 14:00
I personally like to do the first hour or three at 0 - 5 degrees, and then let it come up to room temp or whatever over night. It might be slightly unsafe, but when working with NC, especially in the quantities I like to nitrate, it seems safe enough.

And Mr Pedro, I wonder why that photograph is cropped...

stupid noob
2008-08-14, 22:39
You can decrease reaction time by increasing surface area, as well as with constant stirring, and as clean as possible precs.


Also, it is a bitch to dry, so you might have some moisture present still.


Another popular thing is renitrating it after your first nitration.

fcknut
2008-08-15, 12:11
On a different note, I know this sort of thing isn't normally tolerated, but...

http://tinyurl.com/dzmbz

what do you guys reckon to this - legit or not..?

stateofhack
2008-08-15, 12:12
Another popular thing is renitrating it after your first nitration.

Yep this and i believe green indicates traces of copper no? or something else i can't remember :(

Von Bass
2008-08-15, 12:22
http://tinyurl.com/dzmbz

what do you guys reckon to this - legit or not..?

trolls / bullshit. Budmail might be legit, but I highly doubt any site could openly get away with this. Plus their descriptions are obviously a joke.

...I hope at least.

stateofhack
2008-08-15, 15:40
On a different note, I know this sort of thing isn't normally tolerated, but...

http://tinyurl.com/dzmbz

what do you guys reckon to this - legit or not..?

Fake, old as the internet :)

Eldorhan
2008-08-15, 17:23
Fake, old as the internet :)

This:

Thanks to a legal loophole in the Maastrict Treaty establishing free trade within the European Community, we are able to sell direct, to you the Public, from Malta, where cocaine is a recognised pharmecutical. As long as it is all for your own consumption (i.e. not for resale), there is nothing Customs and Excise nor the Police can do.


Is actually right. Doubt anyone would try to pull it off tho.

JoePedo
2008-08-18, 08:08
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/893/postersz1.jpg

stateofhack
2008-08-18, 09:47
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/893/postersz1.jpg

hahahahahahhahahaha trolled everyone!

Hats of to you sir!

JoePedo
2008-08-20, 14:07
Spice. Flow.

But you forget that the same hearts and minds we are trying to win over are just as ignorant as the people in our government, if not much more so, which is why all the fear mongering and scare tactics have worked thus far.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5849/matrix2noobjy8.jpg

stupid noob
2008-08-21, 01:07
Spice. Flow.



http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5849/matrix2noobjy8.jpg
I am never quite sure if I get your meaning. You are the only person I've ever met, online or in real life who can make me feel so totally fucking stupid.

Eldorhan
2008-08-21, 02:19
I am never quite sure if I get your meaning. You are the only person I've ever met, online or in real life who can make me feel so totally fucking stupid.

Guess his image related to some illuminati / big jew feeding both camps, your internet and your tv.

Anyways:

http://i37.tinypic.com/34xmlns.jpg

:D

JoePedo
2008-08-21, 06:07
Anyways:

http://i37.tinypic.com/34xmlns.jpg

:D

"So an autistic asshole, a jackass with a bum leg, and a negro walked into lab tips, right..."

I am never quite sure if I get your meaning. You are the only person I've ever met, online or in real life who can make me feel so totally fucking stupid.

I have bad habits in terse communications like that.

Anyways...

1. The government is led by idiots.

2. Most people find it easy to figure out #1, but there's a few idiots who aren't so sure, that the government uses.

:. We just have to speak slowly and simply enough that even idiots can recognize that the government is comprised of idiots.

...or, in short, have the best minds in the world condense the idiocy of the government down into snappy five-second soundbites. Simple!

:D

stupid noob
2008-08-21, 07:02
Does that make state of hack the negro?

JoePedo
2008-08-21, 07:51
Does that make state of hack the negro?

I think so...

Damn. None of us are going to be able to watch House the same way again...

lol.

Eldorhan
2008-08-21, 14:02
i think so...

Damn. None of us are going to be able to watch house the same way again...

Lol.

lmfao :d

stupid noob
2008-08-22, 00:28
I've been told I remind people of house so many times................


I take it as a compliment.

Eldorhan
2008-08-22, 01:28
I've been told I remind people of house so many times................


I take it as a compliment.

Funniest character i've seen in a damn while.

stupid noob
2008-08-22, 07:07
Funniest character i've seen in a damn while.
I like the episode where he pops a shit ton of nootropics to remember shit after the bus accident, and all the doctors are like NO WTF ARE YOU DOING

Eldorhan
2008-08-22, 07:13
I like the episode where he pops a shit ton of nootropics to remember shit after the bus accident, and all the doctors are like NO WTF ARE YOU DOING

A good moment is when he asks for people to vote :D

- "Who votes for XXX ?"
*All hands raised*
- "And now... who thinks their vote counts ?"

:D

stateofhack
2008-08-22, 16:08
Spice. Flow.



http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5849/matrix2noobjy8.jpg

lol wut

I am never quite sure if I get your meaning. You are the only person I've ever met, online or in real life who can make me feel so totally fucking stupid.

Second that

Guess his image related to some illuminati / big jew feeding both camps, your internet and your tv.

Anyways:

http://i37.tinypic.com/34xmlns.jpg

:D

Ah house, love that anyone know when it starts again?

Does that make state of hack the negro?


:mad: what? Do i eat KFC/watermelon/Kool aid :mad:?

I think so...

Damn. None of us are going to be able to watch House the same way again...

lol.

bastard! :( Yeah, house meaning just changed :(

I've been told I remind people of house so many times................


I take it as a compliment.

1) The leg
2) The "humour"

You just need the cane and you good :cool:, be sure to get one with flames ;)

I like the episode where he pops a shit ton of nootropics to remember shit after the bus accident, and all the doctors are like NO WTF ARE YOU DOING

hahaha i remember that one! Last episode i think :(

A good moment is when he asks for people to vote :D

- "Who votes for XXX ?"
*All hands raised*
- "And now... who thinks their vote counts ?"

:D

this!

stupid noob
2008-08-22, 16:41
Waaaay ahead of you on the cane. Been using a cane since I got hurt, though not all the time. But, the more time goes on, the more I seem to need it, sometimes even just around the house. I've got a wheelchair for the really bad days. The treads are fucked up though, it needs some work. I really should do that. I don't want to be fucking and fighting with it next time I can't walk. Wheelchair repair is totally new to me though.



I really want one of those electric scooters. When I do have to use a chair, that shit is so hard on my arms.


But yep. I've got the crazy hair, the cane, the hydrocodone script, the knowledge, and the shitty attitude lol. If only I had the PHD to properly bitch slap people with..........

stateofhack
2008-08-22, 17:18
Waaaay ahead of you on the cane. Been using a cane since I got hurt, though not all the time. But, the more time goes on, the more I seem to need it, sometimes even just around the house. I've got a wheelchair for the really bad days. The treads are fucked up though, it needs some work. I really should do that. I don't want to be fucking and fighting with it next time I can't walk. Wheelchair repair is totally new to me though.



I really want one of those electric scooters. When I do have to use a chair, that shit is so hard on my arms.


But yep. I've got the crazy hair, the cane, the hydrocodone script, the knowledge, and the shitty attitude lol. If only I had the PHD to properly bitch slap people with..........

hahahhha no way. I mean i am sorry to hear but its kind of cool on one side :), as for the PhD well its never too late :;) And the wheelchair must suck :( Reparing that shit must be annoying :mad:

Eldorhan
2008-08-22, 17:56
Ah house, love that anyone know when it starts again?


12 september iirc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUp3PmNa6c

Internet-Weed-Dude
2008-08-22, 19:07
i dont get it.. what are you supposed to do in this thread? make up lies?

stateofhack
2008-08-23, 00:42
12 september iirc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUp3PmNa6c

Thanks for that :)

i dont get it.. what are you supposed to do in this thread? make up lies?

Aren't you fucking banned? Quit filling this place up with stupid shit!

JoePedo
2008-08-23, 04:11
:mad: what? Do i eat KFC/watermelon/Kool aid :mad:?

Well, we are going to send you out in the field to pick us some oxycotton...

A good moment is when he asks for people to vote

And suddenly...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5849/matrix2noobjy8.jpg

...the conversation comes full circle.

:D

stateofhack
2008-08-23, 09:21
Well, we are going to send you out in the field to pick us some oxycotton...


:mad: Hey! :( Where on earth are we going to grow oxycotton? Pick poppies sure :), ah is it time to get planting poppies? At least in the UK/top EU?

I think spunn can do the picking work, if he can remember to move one arm in front of the other...




And suddenly...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5849/matrix2noobjy8.jpg

...the conversation comes full circle.

:D

:mad: Your confusing the shit out of me :(...but one of these days *shakes fist*...

DiamondX
2008-08-23, 09:42
Well, we are going to send you out in the field to pick us some oxycotton...

I lol'd...

...then cried. No oxycotton for me :(

And suddenly...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5849/matrix2noobjy8.jpg

...the conversation comes full circle.

:D

Right now, you seem like that weird kid in highschool who says really random stuff with no friends. Only everyone really respects you here.

JoePedo
2008-08-23, 23:14
:mad: Hey! :( Where on earth are we going to grow oxycotton? Pick poppies sure :)

Well, this is lab tips... even our negroes are expected to know how to performic, ya know? ;)


ah is it time to get planting poppies? At least in the UK/top EU?

With hydroponics, it's always time. ;)

:mad: Your confusing the shit out of me :(...but one of these days *shakes fist*...

1. A poster kindly illustrates how a single bored troll can use a false and collusive system alleged to be two parties as a proxy server for media placement.

2. An episode of "House" asks "how many people think their vote matters."

Coincidence? Or conspiracy? You decide...

Right now, you seem like that weird kid in highschool who says really random stuff with no friends. Only everyone really respects you here.

I have my books!

And my poetry to protect me!

:D

Google it if you're still lost... I'm honestly half tempted to play it up, "finally I've found a bunch of people as autistic as me!," but nah...

stateofhack
2008-08-24, 00:12
I lol'd...

...then cried. No oxycotton for me :(


Look at the Codiene thread ;)

Right now, you seem like that weird kid in highschool who says really random stuff with no friends. Only everyone really respects you here.

Yep, the weird kid in the corner who always draw weird as shit...someday :mad: i will get my revenge :(

Well, this is lab tips... even our negroes are expected to know how to performic, ya know? ;)


I so know wut u did thar ;)

btw buffered performic as pure win (OTC and great, for a medium yeild)

With hydroponics, it's always time. ;)

Bastard always one step ahead!




1. A poster kindly illustrates how a single bored troll can use a false and collusive system alleged to be two parties as a proxy server for media placement.

2. An episode of "House" asks "how many people think their vote matters."

Coincidence? Or conspiracy? You decide...


brb fbi :(

You scare the shit out of me sometimes, i hope you work for some kind of goverment(s) because otherwise someone up there in there comfy chair behind a desk has a problem with some one like you not under there "supervision".

DjFloridaDeathTrip
2008-08-24, 03:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRpEy97eDKA

:D

That is a bad as tune.....


Try this one:D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3Wc-37pC4

DiamondX
2008-08-24, 03:46
Look at the Codiene thread ;)

No money/glass/time/space for me. :(

Yep, the weird kid in the corner who always drew weird ass shit...someday :mad: i will get my revenge :(

:mad:http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/62/ENGLISH_MOTHER_FUCKER.gif

Eldorhan
2008-08-24, 04:02
1. A poster kindly illustrates how a single bored troll can use a false and collusive system alleged to be two parties as a proxy server for media placement.

2. An episode of "House" asks "how many people think their vote matters."

Coincidence? Or conspiracy? You decide...


Conspiracy my ass the 2 ips ended with .7 and .23... Oh what a coincidence that these are two chan boards !

Is anonymous above ZOG or the illuminati ? :D

DiamondX
2008-08-24, 06:21
Conspiracy my ass the 2 ips ended with .7 and .23... Oh what a coincidence that these are two chan boards !

Is anonymous above ZOG or the illuminati ? :D

what ips?

Eldorhan
2008-08-24, 07:24
what ips?

On his supposedly clever pic :D

stateofhack
2008-08-24, 10:02
No money/glass/time/space for me. :(

:( Sucks :(

:mad:http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/62/ENGLISH_MOTHER_FUCKER.gif

Matter of fact, no i don't badly only :(

Conspiracy my ass the 2 ips ended with .7 and .23... Oh what a coincidence that these are two chan boards !

Is anonymous above ZOG or the illuminati ? :D

ZOMG conspiracy!!1!!1eleven The chans are just something to control your mind :o

laundrysoap
2008-08-24, 10:55
PHD to properly bitch slap people with

I see a recurring theme in your posts....

DiamondX
2008-08-24, 13:50
On his supposedly clever pic :D

Oh, I forgot about that until I checked the pic again.

whois *.*.*.23 | grep chan

Maybe not the right command, but same idea. We'll get to the bottom of this once and for all.

stateofhack
2008-08-25, 09:43
What Joe is trying to say/imply is that "trolls"run both the democrats and republican, which themselves run the internets (your government) and these control your television. That or he is trolling us ;):mad:

DiamondX
2008-08-27, 08:01
Hey, I've been wondering for a while if anyone has tried decarboxylating and separating cannabinoids to have a little chemistry fun with them? I'm going to check SM and BL, but I just wanted to check if anyone in LT knows about any such experiments?

dreamalot
2008-08-27, 22:43
Hello tweakland I'm back. Where is speedy dreamer, dj florida deathtrap, spunnnn, squeegee, and bongtech?

SpeedyDreamer
2008-08-28, 05:14
here i is. whats up stranger?



If ya'll want something etreamly informative on religon, the 9-11 incident, and who really runs this country, check this out;

http://movie6.net/movie-/?p=4

stateofhack
2008-08-28, 08:45
Hello tweakland I'm back. Where is speedy dreamer, dj florida deathtrap, spunnnn, squeegee, and bongtech?

speedy dreamer (check)
dj florida deathtrap (around)
spunnnn (hopefully banned)
squeegee (good question :( )
bongtech (left us pretty much, but occasionally pops up)

stupid noob
2008-08-28, 10:08
Squeegee is around, he mostly lurks though, and just takes care of random shit around the forum if I can't get to it in time, or UKTom. BongTech I guess felt he was in over his head with all the non MA related chem talk, and pretty much quit LT.


Spunn, I believe has made a couple of new names, and taken to trolling me randomly, or so it would seem sometimes, either way, he hasn't made his presence known here in a long time, and I think I would prefer it that way. We don't need any faggot motherfuckers offering to trade safrole or safrole sources for other listed chems.


Or maybe he got busted while making one of his huge online opiate orders that he seems to love to brag about, either way, the fucker is gone, and the place is better off without him.


BTW, hello dreamalot, long time no see. Well, not too long, I remember you around a couple months ago, something about stepping shit up and making shit right? Hope that worked out for ya.

dreamalot
2008-08-28, 11:35
Well thanks for the welcome. Swim is still just doing his thing. Fucking around with the PCP thing. Like he really needs it.

stateofhack
2008-08-28, 11:51
Well thanks for the welcome. Swim is still just doing his thing. Fucking around with the PCP thing. Like he really needs it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDBofgWP5fM

Saw you on tv man ;)

fcknut
2008-08-28, 12:01
If ya'll want something etreamly informative on religon, the 9-11 incident, and who really runs this country, check this out;

http://movie6.net/movie-/?p=4



See, I saw this a year or so ago and was totally blown away by it...

Dunno how much to believe though, There are now a few critical analyses of the film - haven't had the time to watch them properly, but they are certainly interesting...

I think it's very important to see both sides...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6-k6Jg5i18


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_coXEnKEI

dreamalot
2008-08-29, 01:56
Yo, one of you dreamers want too shoot swim spunnnn's current e-mail, if they have it? Appreciate it. All the swida's contacts got dumped.
Dreamalot11@hotmail

stateofhack
2008-08-29, 10:12
Yo, one of you dreamers want too shoot swim spunnnn's current e-mail, if they have it? Appreciate it. All the swida's contacts got dumped.
Dreamalot11@hotmail

Spuun? ha i believe that guy was been emailing "death threats" or threats in general for posting some synthesis, he uses random emails address, but you can't miss him with his "wonderful" style of writing..:(

stupid noob
2008-08-29, 18:38
Spuun? ha i believe that guy was been emailing "death threats" or threats in general for posting some synthesis, he uses random emails address, but you can't miss him with his "wonderful" style of writing..:(
What a fag.

dreamalot
2008-09-01, 05:30
Anybody know exactly what the differance between I, D, and L amphetamines are? How they differ? And what exaactly is levamethamfetamine you can find in certain nasal passage medications?
Swim just tired of having his lab assistants and customers asking these questions and not being able to provide a concise answer.
Also while here; can anybody give a heads up on counteracting the gel that occurs when a swim is attempting to iv a 30mg morphine sulfate. Sorry. Don't have the inacts or or the manufactur on hand right now. Swim was considering lemon juice. Any body have input.
Also getting back to the lvemethamfetamine listed above. Anybody have any tips about their solubility? Or possible extraction methods?

Sorry about this. Swim just fell of the wagon for the first time in months, and right now he's faster than a speeding bullet. It's good to know he still knows his way around a reaction flask.

DiamondX
2008-09-01, 08:30
Also while here; can anybody give a heads up on counteracting the gel that occurs when a swim is attempting to iv a 30mg morphine sulfate.

Well, the traditional way is to crisp it, basically toast it for a few seconds under an indirect lighter flame, but that also degrades some of the morphine. There are better ways, but I don't remember them. The only morphine I've had was ABG :) Opiophile would probably have the best answer. You could try bluelight too.

fcknut
2008-09-01, 16:37
Hey Guys,

Can someone do me a favour and grab a reference for me? Pretty please ?!

it's:

Journal of Heterocyclic Chemistry (1995), vol: 32, issue: 3, pp 857-862


Cheers !

MrSparkle
2008-09-02, 19:57
Anybody know exactly what the differance between I, D, and L amphetamines are? How they differ? And what exaactly is levamethamfetamine you can find in certain nasal passage medications?
Swim just tired of having his lab assistants and customers asking these questions and not being able to provide a concise answer.

What the hell is I-amphetamine? You must be mistaking it with a lowercase L. I don't like reading about stereochemistry but from what I know dextroamphetamine and dextromethamphetamine are the active ones while their L stereoisomers aren't very active at all. Thats why Dexedrine (d-amphetamine) is more potent than Adderall (mixture of l and d-amphetamine).

I don't know if amphetamine only has 2 stereoisomers but I assume it does because you only hear about l and d-amphetamine.

Chemically the only difference between l and d-amphetamine is their 3d structure. They are 2 stereoisomers of the same molecule. The atoms are all connected in the same order but their structured differently in 3 dimensional space.

fcknut
2008-09-03, 08:46
Anybody know exactly what the differance between I, D, and L amphetamines are? How they differ? And what exaactly is levamethamfetamine you can find in certain nasal passage medications?
Swim just tired of having his lab assistants and customers asking these questions and not being able to provide a concise answer.

here ya go:

http://www.evilshare.com/05fa5246-cae4-102b-b7cf-000b6aa2a5f8

Hopefully that will explain it. As the the guy above me said, they are just stereoisomers of the (meth)amphetamine structure. The L and D notation actually refers to the direction in which they rotate plane-polarised light (but that's not really important...)

I reckon the "I" form is certainly just a misreading of the lowercase "L"

As far as I'm aware, L-amphetamine is inactive as as stimulant, but L-methamphetamine is active, but much less so the than the D-isomer - not 100% on this though....

Von Bass
2008-09-04, 17:02
dextro and levo refer to a type of optical isomerism, where the structures, due to functional groups cannot be superimposed. As far as I know, you always need a chiral molecule, most likely a carbon, around which functional groups cannot swap or rotate, thus locking them into their structure.

An easier example than meth would be something like 2-hydroxypropanenitrile or 2-hydroxypropanoic acid (or lactic). If you look at the structures, due to the tetrahedral nature of the molecule around the chiral carbon, you can make two arrangements, which are like mirror images of each other. Not superimposable, but optically isomeric.

That is my understanding of it anyway, it may well be simplified or entirely incorrect. I'll be buggered if I fully understand it.

Edit ; lol hai im bak. i bet u dint notic id gon tho :(

stupid noob
2008-09-04, 17:42
A molecule can also have several chiral centers, resulting in exponential numbers of isomers, depending on the number of chiral centers. You get the idea.

Von Bass
2008-09-04, 18:05
A molecule can also have several chiral centers, resulting in exponential numbers of isomers, depending on the number of chiral centers. You get the idea.

Thanks for that, in my current chem course we've only seen examples containing one chiral atom. Of course, its pretty apparent that there's no reason why you wouldn't get more than one within a molecule.

fcknut
2008-09-04, 18:19
Thanks for that, in my current chem course we've only seen examples containing one chiral atom. Of course, its pretty apparent that there's no reason why you wouldn't get more than one within a molecule.

Indeed...

Try Brevetoxin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevetoxin) for example - took em a bloody long time to figure it out, by synthesise it they did...!

Von Bass
2008-09-04, 18:21
Indeed...

Try Brevetoxin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevetoxin) for example - took em a bloody long time to figure it out, by synthesise it they did...!

shitting dicknipples, that's a fucking monster of a molecule.. :eek:

I saved the pdf on the synthesis of it just for the comedic value; 123 steps! And yet they still get a 91% yield on average too, that's also impressive.

fcknut
2008-09-04, 19:01
shitting dicknipples, that's a fucking monster of a molecule.. :eek:

I saved the pdf on the synthesis of it just for the comedic value; 123 steps! And yet they still get a 91% yield on average too, that's also impressive.

well, that's a 91% yield per step, rather than over the 123 steps - though that is incredibly impressive anyway...!

Von Bass
2008-09-04, 19:07
well, that's a 91% yield per step, rather than over the 123 steps - though that is incredibly impressive anyway...!

Shit yeah my bad. I saved a few of the other insane looking syntheses from those sites.

I was thinking, seeing the SG thread about user groups or whatever we have nowadays, what do people think about a cool club for LT members? If people are interested in the idea, it might be useful for keeping connected, how so better than totse is, I have no idea as its not like msn or anything, but I'm just floating the idea.

nshanin
2008-09-04, 20:07
Hey Guys,

Can someone do me a favour and grab a reference for me? Pretty please ?!

it's:

Journal of Heterocyclic Chemistry (1995), vol: 32, issue: 3, pp 857-862


Cheers !

I don't have an online subscription but if you'd like I can pick it up in book form from my uni and tell you the essentials. I'd scan it but I don't have the money (nor the intention). What would you like to know?

fcknut
2008-09-04, 20:32
I don't have an online subscription but if you'd like I can pick it up in book form from my uni and tell you the essentials. I'd scan it but I don't have the money (nor the intention). What would you like to know?

Thanks very much for the offer !!

It's ok though - need to have the paper really as I just want to know about the routes, uses and characterisation data.

Hopefully, one of the nice people in Lab Tips will help me out... ;)

Cheers !

dreamalot
2008-09-05, 07:52
Swim would never belong to any club that would have him as a member. That's actually a really bad idea for us involved in clandestine chemistry.
Has anybody here heard from spunnn lately? Can't figure out where the hell the guy is.

squeegee
2008-09-05, 19:27
Hey, dreamalot? Shoot me a line on my email, it should be in my profile. If I don't hear from you, I'll just send you one. If you're still in the same location, I might be coming a little closer your way in a few weeks to a month....Maryland, not too far north of D.C.

stupid noob
2008-09-07, 08:41
Swim would never belong to any club that would have him as a member. That's actually a really bad idea for us involved in clandestine chemistry.
Has anybody here heard from spunnn lately? Can't figure out where the hell the guy is.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2157452

MrSparkle
2008-09-08, 17:08
A molecule can also have several chiral centers, resulting in exponential numbers of isomers, depending on the number of chiral centers. You get the idea.

PPA has 4 of them d- and l-norephedrine, and d- and l-norpseudoephedrine. Looks nothing like ephedrine to me though. I wonder what the nor stands for.

MrSparkle
2008-09-08, 17:14
shitting dicknipples, that's a fucking monster of a molecule.. :eek:

I saved the pdf on the synthesis of it just for the comedic value; 123 steps! And yet they still get a 91% yield on average too, that's also impressive.
Look at this for a hydrocarbon
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Fullerene_c540.png/160px-Fullerene_c540.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckyball
Its called Buckmeisterfullerene or some mad shit like that.

Take a look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube
the strongest fiber known to man is a hydrocarbon bonded into a tube. I saw a documentary where they were taking about making an elevator into space with the stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator
they haven't made a tube longer than a few centimeters yet though.

nshanin
2008-09-08, 18:15
Look at this for a hydrocarbon
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Fullerene_c540.png/160px-Fullerene_c540.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckyball
Its called Buckmeisterfullerene or some mad shit like that.

Take a look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube
the strongest fiber known to man is a hydrocarbon bonded into a tube. I saw a documentary where they were taking about making an elevator into space with the stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator
they haven't made a tube longer than a few centimeters yet though.

That's just physical and material chemistry, which is difficult in its own right (and fascinating too, I remember reading the entire wiki on Space Elevator a few years ago, amazing) but not nearly as complex as a hundred-step procedure. It's possible to mechanize and mass-produce nanotubes, or at least it will be quite soon; making a massive molecule like Brevetoxin is just sheer madness compared to fullerenes. There's more creativity involved and it's not just sheer engineering. Not to belittle nanotubes, they are, as I said, fucking awesome, but it's just not creative enough of a process to make them as I would like, personally.

PPA has 4 of them d- and l-norephedrine, and d- and l-norpseudoephedrine. Looks nothing like ephedrine to me though. I wonder what the nor stands for.

Nor-methyl, meaning it lost a methyl group. For comparison, see wiki's (nor)epinephrine. One is structurally similar to amphetamine, the other is nor-alpha-methylmethamp. ;)

MrSparkle
2008-09-08, 18:50
Yea theres no 123 step reactions for making fullerenes I just brought it up cuz its a huge molecule and it looks cool. I saw that shellfish compound in Clayden is that the most complex molecule found in nature to date?

So nor just means minus a methyl group? Makes sense. Thanks.

Von Bass
2008-09-08, 18:59
So nor just means minus a methyl group? Makes sense. Thanks.

This is why totse is awesome. You learn stuff. Suddenly noradrenaline makes more sense!

And I'd seen buckminister fullerene before, it used to be a common ... exercise for some poor kid to have to make a model of one out of plasticine and matches.

Eldorhan
2008-09-10, 19:00
It has recently come to my attention that India allows manufacture and exportation of ketamine.

Stuff isn't regulated there :D

fcknut
2008-09-10, 22:48
And I'd seen buckminister fullerene before, it used to be a common ... exercise for some poor kid to have to make a model of one out of plasticine and matches.

It's more than that.

As well as it being a different allotrope of carbon (which is not something you come across every day), recent(ish) work has been done on derivatising buckminsterfullerene, and creating dimers. It's also been postulated as a chaperone delivery cage.

There's some serious potential there...

Phosphor-ing
2008-09-11, 14:12
PPA has 4 of them d- and l-norephedrine, and d- and l-norpseudoephedrine. Looks nothing like ephedrine to me though. I wonder what the nor stands for.

nor-
homologue containing one less methyl group <norepinephrine>
copy and pasted from Merriam-Webster

stateofhack
2008-09-14, 08:29
It has recently come to my attention that India allows manufacture and exportation of ketamine.

Stuff isn't regulated there :D

;) Be careful! Many people have been scammed when buying from india and if your thinking of buying from that big ebay like store then forget it! Scammer 100% look into eastern europe...it is where it is at for Ketamine or Korea.

I took a little holiday, it thought there would be more stuff :( Von Bass get on msn :mad:!

Oh i should be able to get this by tomorow "Journal of Heterocyclic Chemistry (1995), vol: 32, issue: 3, pp 857-862" :)

So how has everyone been?

nshanin
2008-09-14, 08:34
So how has everyone been?

Fucking busy as hell. Between classes, my student organization, my (new) radio show, and trying to keep up something that vaguely resembles a social life I haven't had much time for chemistry. :( Maybe in October when things calm down.

stateofhack
2008-09-14, 09:30
Fucking busy as hell. Between classes, my student organization, my (new) radio show, and trying to keep up something that vaguely resembles a social life I haven't had much time for chemistry. :( Maybe in October when things calm down.

Tell me about it :( Moving around and chaning place :( Moving around 20+ KG of glassware is a bitch :( but my new place is a lot nicer and has more lab space :) I LOVE IT!

MrSparkle
2008-09-15, 17:43
The teacher was playing around with pure Sodium today in college. Its mad shit he was dropping chunks of it into a cup of water and it turned into a little ball and rolled around on top of the water for about 5 minutes before it fully melted. I can't help but wonder what dropping a brick of sodium into a swimming pool would look like. Imagine that. A flaming ball of sodium ripping it around the pool.

Is anyone else here just starting chemistry in college? Problem I'm having is I already know everything they're teaching at the moment so I'm not learning much yet. I'm like the nerd in the class I'm the one answering every single question.

stateofhack
2008-09-15, 18:42
The teacher was playing around with pure Sodium today in college. Its mad shit he was dropping chunks of it into a cup of water and it turned into a little ball and rolled around on top of the water for about 5 minutes before it fully melted. I can't help but wonder what dropping a brick of sodium into a swimming pool would look like. Imagine that. A flaming ball of sodium ripping it around the pool.

Is anyone else here just starting chemistry in college? Problem I'm having is I already know everything they're teaching at the moment so I'm not learning much yet. I'm like the nerd in the class I'm the one answering every single question.

I have dropped 25 g of Na straight into a lake once, and dear god i can tell you it was worth it! The sodium was very old and i had do use for it at the time;) Althought if you would like a ball of fire on the pool potassium is your best bet ;) I about to start chemistry at university (college for American fags i guess? ;) ) taking a pharmacology and Organic chemistry :)

MrSparkle
2008-09-15, 19:17
Yeah the teacher was saying the higher up you go in the alkali metal group the more violent the reaction with the water. Sodium was impressive enough. Never seen anything like it on my life. Hopefully I'll get to see it on a larger scale some day.

Exactly the same courses I'm taking although I'm wondering whether to go for biochemistry instead. I hear theres a bright future in the pharmaceuticals field.

stateofhack
2008-09-15, 20:16
Yeah the teacher was saying the higher up you go in the alkali metal group the more violent the reaction with the water.

Exactly the same courses I'm taking

...... That is odd why would they show you such a thing in your course? They usually do demos like these when your 12-14 :(

nshanin
2008-09-15, 21:45
Exactly the same courses I'm taking although I'm wondering whether to go for biochemistry instead. I hear theres a bright future in the pharmaceuticals field.

At my university if you have a biochem degree you only need 9 more credits to get pre-pharm designation. They're very closely related fields, so you shouldn't have problems spreading out.

Eldorhan
2008-09-16, 05:47
I want Francium :D

stateofhack
2008-09-16, 13:52
I want Francium :D

Wouldn't we all ;)

Sidenote: I am looking on some information on drying nitroethane, can anyone help?

I currently do not have access to my books :(

Eldorhan
2008-09-16, 16:15
I currently do not have access to my books :(

That's what you get for laundering your hardware to illiterate noobs !

stateofhack
2008-09-16, 16:21
That's what you get for laundering your hardware to illiterate noobs !

:mad:..lol wut?

I am moving places so all my stuff is at my new place and i am at my old :mad:, unless your going to help STFU.

MrSparkle
2008-09-16, 18:31
I want Francium :D

You'd wanna be mighty careful with that shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjowQJMS-W4

Look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft4E1eCUItI
the caesium blew up the beaker

MrSparkle
2008-09-16, 18:42
...... That is odd why would they show you such a thing in your course? They usually do demos like these when your 12-14 :(

Alot of people in the class have never even done chemistry before so they're going over some of the kiddy shit before we get into organic chemistry. We haven't done any practical work in the lab yet I can't wait till we do though because I have no experience in a lab so I'm gonna get a chance to put all my theory into action.

Sweet jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhGD11KHTk&feature=related
that little bit of caesium blew the whole bath up

Sodium disposal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY7mTCMvpEM

Yea it looks like it just explodes if you put a huge chunk of sodium into water. It doesn't turn into a ball and roll on top of the water. Its a pity cuz a giant ball of sodium rolling around on a lake would look pretty cool.

fcknut
2008-09-16, 22:50
Sweet jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhGD11KHTk&feature=related
that little bit of caesium blew the whole bath up




Unfortunately, that scene from Brainiacs was bollox !

I was very disappointed to learn that they had used extra explosives for the cesium reaction, as the real reaction wasn't dramatic enough...


AFAIK however, the classic 60's open university type video (where the glass water bath explodes) is real...

DiamondX
2008-09-16, 23:16
The teacher was playing around with pure Sodium today in college. Its mad shit he was dropping chunks of it into a cup of water and it turned into a little ball and rolled around on top of the water for about 5 minutes before it fully melted. I can't help but wonder what dropping a brick of sodium into a swimming pool would look like. Imagine that. A flaming ball of sodium ripping it around the pool.

Is anyone else here just starting chemistry in college? Problem I'm having is I already know everything they're teaching at the moment so I'm not learning much yet. I'm like the nerd in the class I'm the one answering every single question.

I'm starting too, but I have a 300+ person lecture, because a lot of the degrees require chem. We're going over some basic stuff still just as review from highschool.

You'd wanna be mighty careful with that shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjowQJMS-W4

Look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft4E1eCUItI
the caesium blew up the beaker

OH SHI-

stateofhack
2008-09-17, 03:39
:(..anyone got some info on drying nitroethane :( ?

nshanin
2008-09-17, 03:47
:(..anyone got some info on drying nitroethane :( ?

CaCl2?

fcknut
2008-09-17, 09:22
:(..anyone got some info on drying nitroethane :( ?


Yup, CaCl2 seems fine!

Here's the full entry in the handbook:

http://www.evilshare.com/0c1d4f32-d5ea-102b-81f7-000b6aa2a5f8

stateofhack
2008-09-17, 10:24
Yup, CaCl2 seems fine!

Here's the full entry in the handbook:

http://www.evilshare.com/0c1d4f32-d5ea-102b-81f7-000b6aa2a5f8

I <3 you, just what i needed :) Thanks man :) oh and as of yet no paper, give me a few more days and i should be able to get you that ref :)

fcknut
2008-09-17, 11:09
I <3 you, just what i needed :) Thanks man :) oh and as of yet no paper, give me a few more days and i should be able to get you that ref :)

Cheers!

blue_monday
2008-09-18, 02:01
Hey guys, my organic chem textbook this year is all on CD. It's all powerpoint/word/windows movie player. It's got videos of common lab procedures, practice tests, labs & procedures and explains a lot of shit. If anyone could walk me through how to upload it i'd be happy to.

stateofhack
2008-09-18, 07:25
Hey guys, my organic chem textbook this year is all on CD. It's all powerpoint/word/windows movie player. It's got videos of common lab procedures, practice tests, labs & procedures and explains a lot of shit. If anyone could walk me through how to upload it i'd be happy to.

1) Get CD
2) RIP CD with program (nero) and upload it somewhere depending on size or torrent that shit
3)?????
4)PROFIT!!!!

stateofhack
2008-09-18, 07:36
Hey Guys,

Can someone do me a favour and grab a reference for me? Pretty please ?!

it's:

Journal of Heterocyclic Chemistry (1995), vol: 32, issue: 3, pp 857-862


Cheers !

As promised and sorry for the delay :(

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5631eb9a9c9a4b89d2db6fb9a8902bda

mirror:

http://www.evilshare.com/a2184ba8-d6a4-102b-81f7-000b6aa2a5f8

fcknut
2008-09-18, 07:47
As promised and sorry for the delay :(

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5631eb9a9c9a4b89d2db6fb9a8902bda

mirror:

http://www.evilshare.com/a2184ba8-d6a4-102b-81f7-000b6aa2a5f8



Nice one man - much appreciated !!

stateofhack
2008-09-18, 08:45
Nice one man - much appreciated !!

No problem, just reading through the paper, very interesting as a matter of fact.:D

edit: Why don't you hit me up on msn so we can chit chat?

stateofhack at hotmail dot com

:d

stateofhack
2008-09-18, 11:36
Today is an epic day, i have no laughed this hard in weeks:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/The_Sarah_Palin_Incident

Its on digg too

Von Bass
2008-09-18, 15:53
Today is an epic day, i have no laughed this hard in weeks:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/The_Sarah_Palin_Incident

Its on digg too

Oh internets. Finally a /b/tard did something amusing again. Do we know if it was actually a 4chan user, or was it one of the remaining /i/'s that did it?

stateofhack
2008-09-19, 13:17
Oh internets. Finally a /b/tard did something amusing again. Do we know if it was actually a 4chan user, or was it one of the remaining /i/'s that did it?

Apparently a *chanl and word is that he/she saved a lot of mail and some more interesting one which will be leached in the following days to come. Prepare for shit storm! Its gonna be hilarious!

nshanin
2008-09-19, 18:48
It's already out, guiz:

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_account_2008

Nothing too interesting.

stateofhack
2008-09-19, 20:23
It's already out, guiz:

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_account_2008

Nothing too interesting.

Oreilly website is going through shit storm too now. There will be more emails from Sarah Palin which will be released later on apparently, epic lulz are going to be issued.

Pandoras Assassin
2008-09-23, 01:42
Nocaresaboutcleantechmakeitintoanewforumcalledyoma majokes!

stupid noob
2008-09-23, 21:51
Hey fellas sorry I haven't been around the past week, hurricane ike came through kentucky and fucking ruined my shit.I couldn't even get out my front door because of the huge tree in our yard crashed down directly in front of that shit. We Got our power back after about 4 days, and finally got internet back today.

Ed Lister
2008-09-24, 07:18
Hey fellas sorry I haven't been around the past week, hurricane ike came through kentucky and fucking ruined my shit.I couldn't even get out my front door because of the huge tree in our yard crashed down directly in front of that shit. We Got our power back after about 4 days, and finally got internet back today.

I hope you spent those four days bunkered down with a hot southern broad, whiskey, a battery powered ghetto blaster with Motorhead tapes, tinned chilli and a growing reluctance to ever return to civilisation again.

stupid noob
2008-09-24, 12:08
I hope you spent those four days bunkered down with a hot southern broad, whiskey, a battery powered ghetto blaster with Motorhead tapes, tinned chilli and a growing reluctance to ever return to civilisation again.
Honestly, if it was just me I'd have been happy as a fucking clam. If I had it my way my whole family would be out living in the mountains, as far removed from society as fucking possible, but you know, I've got the wife, and she seems to have something against sleeping on anything but a bed.


Myself, I'm as happy as a nigger on welfare check day sleeping on the dirt.

My neighbors all think I'm a fucking whack job now though, no way in hell was I going live for damn near a week in a city with NO fucking power city wide without keeping a pistol strapped to my side 24/7.


Shits crazy enough when we DO have power.


I think it was a good thing overall though, it brought our neighborhood as a whole closer together, and I now know everyone quite a bit better than before.

Eldorhan
2008-09-25, 08:44
Eh... Wow...

Is olbermann a /b/tard ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#26843859

Wait until the last story (radio station fire) and listen closely as he mentions....

the internetz and the interwebz !

nshanin
2008-09-25, 21:19
Eh... Wow...

Is olbermann a /b/tard ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#26843859

Wait until the last story (radio station fire) and listen closely as he mentions....

the internetz and the interwebz !

Only if you interpret the "S" as a "Z".

JoePedo
2008-09-26, 22:31
Only if you interpret the "S" as a "Z".

You know /b/ has too much power when people think "internets" is the actual spelling...

nshanin
2008-09-27, 05:36
You know /b/ has too much power when people think "internets" is the actual spelling...

Why would it not be?

fcknut
2008-09-29, 16:06
Does anyone know where I can see a working version of this trailer (http://www.shulginthefilm.com/trailer.php?time=1222704231.8509) for the forthcoming documentary on Shulgin?

I've tried the retards in BLTC, but no answer as yet... A quick scan of youtube etc has been unfruitful so far...

intravenous
2008-09-30, 08:03
I thought that I should make a post in here, pretty soon we'll be up to 5 and I won't get the chance.

MrSparkle
2008-10-01, 18:58
Any of you think measuring the refractive index of a solvent or other liquid compound is a good way of determining its purity? I learned a method of measuring the refractive index of liquids in college and its dead accurate. We were told to figure out the refractive index of water in a few various sized beakers and I got an average of 1.3. The real refractive index of water is 1.33.

All it involved was dropping a pin in the beaker, clamping a pin above the beaker, placing a mirror on the rim of the beaker, aligning the image of the two pins, making sure theres no parallax then measuring. My explanation sounds complicated but its as simple as an Eskimo with downsyndrome.

Seems like a useful trick to add to my bag. It would also help one figure out what an unknown solvent may be.

JoePedo
2008-10-01, 21:48
Does anyone know where I can see a working version of this trailer (http://www.shulginthefilm.com/trailer.php?time=1222704231.8509) for the forthcoming documentary on Shulgin?

The stream hosting (uvault) has discontinued the entire subdomain.

Chances are, you're pretty much fucked.

fcknut
2008-10-02, 08:46
The stream hosting (uvault) has discontinued the entire subdomain.

Chances are, you're pretty much fucked.

Toss.

DiamondX
2008-10-04, 05:05
Anyone want free hosting? :cool:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/332327496.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/332327496.png)

Yup, thats my connection in my dorm at school. :D But seriously, if anyone has something they would like hosted, let me know and I will consider it. ;) Hopefully they don't block port 80, but we can always work around that.

Running Debian
mysql, php, etc (if its in the repos, Ill install it, if not, Ill consider it)
99% uptime
FREE!
FAST connection (fastest in the pacific!)

stupid noob
2008-10-04, 06:54
The stream hosting (uvault) has discontinued the entire subdomain.

Chances are, you're pretty much fucked.
What does that mean? That the shulgins pretty much stopped updating and paying for the site? Or did something else possibly go wrong?

Von Bass
2008-10-04, 15:54
Anyone want free hosting? :cool:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/332327496.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/332327496.png)

Yup, thats my connection in my dorm at school. :D But seriously, if anyone has something they would like hosted, let me know and I will consider it. ;) Hopefully they don't block port 80, but we can always work around that.

Running Debian
mysql, php, etc (if its in the repos, Ill install it, if not, Ill consider it)
99% uptime
FREE!
FAST connection (fastest in the pacific!)

:eek::eek::eek: I'm also jealous.

1Tb external hard drive + shedloads of ebooks + FTP software = privateish LT FTP server?

Just an idea.

DiamondX
2008-10-04, 21:10
:eek::eek::eek: I'm also jealous.

1Tb external hard drive + shedloads of ebooks + FTP software = privateish LT FTP server?

Just an idea.

Well, I can offer a few GB right now, but I don't have much money and I can't afford an external drive. Any ideas/cheap drives? I don't really want to get too involved in this, and I don't expect anyone to trust me enough to send me ~$200 for a drive. I would set up accounts for the LT regulars so you all can upload, and have an anon account for all others. I'm not so sure how long this would last though, because I want to move out of the dorms next year. It will be up at least till the start of summer.

Free 500GB, anyone want to check if its legit? http://www.externaldriveoffer.com/?cid=61506&affid=2091200417::E_external%20hard%20drive

JoePedo
2008-10-05, 05:48
What does that mean? That the shulgins pretty much stopped updating and paying for the site? Or did something else possibly go wrong?

Oye. They ask me like I know. I guess it's time to put down the "1337 h4x0r" hat that gave us the last answer - which replaced the "ghetto chemist" hat I usually wear - and put on my "crazy deep geopolitical banger" hat for that funky research that answers all the tough questions and drafts an epic plan of action...

Fuck.

"How does I make teh mef, jp?" "Craft me an action plan to neutralize this annoying fucking corporate-governmental web, jp!" "Bring me some custom fucking nanoengineering, jp!" "Get me completely-insider information on what some film artist is doing in completely-confidential negotiations with a third-party corporate service provider!"

...and I'm still an unemployed fucking transient...

Anyways... the party most likely to be responsible for the actual film is Sebastian Saville (http://www.shulginthefilm.com/filmmakers.htm), the associated party most connected with drug law, suggesting that it's a proxied project of the drug reform foundation (http://releaseorgu.eweb101.discountasp.net/default.aspx?tabid=300) he works with.

In the meantime, however, it appeared that they outsourced the actual project to third parties.

Shulginthefilm.com is registered (http://leader.ru/secure/whoiz.html?q=shulginthefilm.com) to a new media brand management company (http://www.stoffaproductions.com/) which advertises (http://www.mediarights.org/organization/stoffa_productions_llc) to a social activist media enhancement foundation (http://www.mediarights.org/tour/activist.php) market.

Unfortunately, the group they outsourced to appears to have become defunct (http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin?rqstyp=crpdtlC&rqsdta=35131369K). I was able to determine that there are no open criminal prosecutions against the owner, so that's not what killed the company, but I didn't check civil court, bankrupcy filings, etc. She has also moved from her registered adress of business (http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Kirsten&name=Stoffa&street=&city_zip=&state_id=LA&localtime=survey); however, that adress was registered before Katrina. Let alone the recent one.

tl;dr : online management company hammered by multiple hurricanes, behind on paperwork. future developments as they unfold.

That's my guess...

stupid noob
2008-10-05, 14:25
You never cease to amaze me. Thank you.



Also, regarding the film, I heard from a mole that the Dr. himself said they are now done with the filming portion of the project, and it is now in the editing stage.


From what I heard anyway..............


Here's hoping. I am crossing my fingers for every aspect of his career. He is a busy busy man, with a ton of shit still to do, and I hope he can finish it all before the good lord decides to finally deprive us of one of the most influential men (IMHO) in history.


The film, couple books, etc etc.


One day I will carry on his noble work, till then, practice practice practice.

fcknut
2008-10-13, 15:27
LSD and psilocybin clinical research (http://www.maps.org/research/cluster/psilo-lsd/)

May be of interest...

Von Bass
2008-10-13, 15:58
LSD and psilocybin clinical research (http://www.maps.org/research/cluster/psilo-lsd/)

May be of interest...

I'd read about this before, it was really interesting. I can also personally testify for the effectiveness of tryptamine based molecules, not necessarily lysergic acids and pyslocybin sadly, in the treatment of migraines.

I get 'em pretty bad, and Zomigon (http://i35.tinypic.com/2hmd7vt.jpg) has been surprisingly effective so far.

DiamondX
2008-10-14, 21:02
I'd read about this before, it was really interesting. I can also personally testify for the effectiveness of tryptamine based molecules, not necessarily lysergic acids and pyslocybin sadly, in the treatment of migraines.

I get 'em pretty bad, and Zomigon (http://i35.tinypic.com/2hmd7vt.jpg) has been surprisingly effective so far.

Same here, a few months ago I tried shrooms for the first time. Before I did them I was getting migraines almost daily, and I've only had a couple since then. There were some other factors involved, but I really think it helped.

squeegee
2008-10-15, 03:11
Wow, has all of totse seen a decline?

I just noticed there is only one page in this forum.

I post in BLTC every now and then and a thread I made maybe three days ago is still on the first page. Usually they only stay on the first page for one hour to a day, depending on how many replys....unless you have a very popular/much discussed thread that is.

Anyone else noticed a big slowdown?

nshanin
2008-10-15, 04:02
Reg has been "closed" for a while.

stateofhack
2008-10-16, 02:45
Greetings all, i have been away for a while. I relocated my lab and have know more space (but less time :( ) to work on everything. Expect quite a bit of fresh stuff in the next few days. I have also access to a much broader range of refs, so let me know whay you need ( in the correct thread ;) ) and hopefully i will dig it up or ask someone to do it for me :)

squeegee
2008-10-17, 16:44
I just found my old fluke meter. Its a few years old, and this model : http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+50.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnitedStates&Category=THETOP(FlukeProducts)


It won't come on, but I think the batteries are dead. I can't find the probe, either....which appears to be 70 bucks unless you find some on an auction site or something.

I don't need it anymore, so if anybody wants it, contact me via email jp_hewett (at) yahoo.com or I sometimes get on AIM as Fenix8472. I'll give it away, I'd just need the cost of shipping. If anyone is intrested, I'll go figure the shipping costs.

stupid noob
2008-10-18, 01:21
i just found my old fluke meter. Its a few years old, and this model : http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/fluke+50.htm?catalog_name=flukeunitedstates&category=thetop(flukeproducts (http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/fluke+50.htm?catalog_name=flukeunitedstates&category=thetop%28flukeproducts))


it won't come on, but i think the batteries are dead. I can't find the probe, either....which appears to be 70 bucks unless you find some on an auction site or something.

I don't need it anymore, so if anybody wants it, contact me via email jp_hewett (at) yahoo.com or i sometimes get on aim as fenix8472. I'll give it away, i'd just need the cost of shipping. If anyone is intrested, i'll go figure the shipping costs.
dibs!

stateofhack
2008-10-18, 11:54
I just found my old fluke meter. Its a few years old, and this model : http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+50.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnitedStates&Category=THETOP(FlukeProducts (http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+50.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnitedStates&Category=THETOP%28FlukeProducts))


It won't come on, but I think the batteries are dead. I can't find the probe, either....which appears to be 70 bucks unless you find some on an auction site or something.

I don't need it anymore, so if anybody wants it, contact me via email jp_hewett (at) yahoo.com or I sometimes get on AIM as Fenix8472. I'll give it away, I'd just need the cost of shipping. If anyone is intrested, I'll go figure the shipping costs.

score..but different continent :( But nice stuff anyways!

fcknut
2008-10-20, 20:41
A recent synthesis of kavalactones (http://www.evilshare.com/84b23608-f037-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)

Haven't read it though...

Von Bass
2008-10-21, 19:02
A recent synthesis of kavalactones (http://www.evilshare.com/84b23608-f037-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)

Haven't read it though...

Cheers! Completely impracticable, but from my current quick skim, looks really interesting.

stateofhack
2008-10-22, 01:01
I have promised quite a few people some refs and stuff so unless there is a thread for that i will dump them in here. Some of these are very very interesting, take a look!

A lot of assorted info on Benzodifuran, Dihydrobenzofuran and tetrahydrobenzofurans:

http://www.mediafire.com/?fmmimi3t0tf

Sorry for the delay (you know who you are ;). I have some more stuff but i have to request it so it will take longer :( i will digging around to find these last one, here they are so if someone else finds em before me post them!

Dihydrobenzofuran Analogues of Hallucinogens. 4.1 Mescaline Derivatives2
Aaron P. Monte, Steve R. Waldman, Danuta Marona-Lewicka, David B. Wainscott, David L. Nelson, Elaine Sanders-Bush, and David E. Nichols
J. Med. Chem., 1997, 40, (19), pp 2997–3008.

Characterisation of human 5-hydroxytryptamine2A and 5-hydroxytryptamine2C receptors expressed in the human neuroblastoma cell line SH-SY5Y: comparative stimulation by hallucinogenic drugs.
Oxford University-SmithKline Beecham Centre for Applied Neuropsychobiology, University Department of Clinical Pharmacology, Oxford, England.
J Neurochem. 1996 Dec;67(6):2521-31.

2,3-Dihydrobenzofuran analogues of hallucinogenic phenethylamines.
Department of Medicinal Chemistry, School of Pharmacy, Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana 47907.
Nichols DE, Snyder SE, Oberlender R, Johnson MP, Huang XM.
J Med Chem. 1991 Jan;34(1):276-81.

Dihydrobenzofuran analogues of hallucinogens. 3. Models of 4-substituted (2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)alkylamine derivatives with rigidified methoxy groups.
Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Molecular Pharmacology, School of Pharmacy and Pharmacal Sciences, Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana 47907, USA.
Monte AP, Marona-Lewicka D, Parker MA, Wainscott DB, Nelson DL, Nichols DE.
J Med Chem. 1996 Jul 19;39(15):2953-61.

More interesting paper to come in the next days/hours!:p

fcknut
2008-10-22, 09:18
J Med Chem. 1991 Jan;34(1):276-81 (http://www.evilshare.com/fd15ea94-f169-102b-a7be-00a0c993e9d6)


J Med Chem. 1996 Jul 19;39(15):2953-61 (http://www.evilshare.com/fd2284a2-f169-102b-a7be-00a0c993e9d6)


J. Med. Chem., 1997, 40, (19), pp 2997–3008 (http://www.evilshare.com/fd29041c-f169-102b-a7be-00a0c993e9d6)

stateofhack
2008-10-22, 12:30
J Med Chem. 1991 Jan;34(1):276-81 (http://www.evilshare.com/fd15ea94-f169-102b-a7be-00a0c993e9d6)


J Med Chem. 1996 Jul 19;39(15):2953-61 (http://www.evilshare.com/fd2284a2-f169-102b-a7be-00a0c993e9d6)


J. Med. Chem., 1997, 40, (19), pp 2997–3008 (http://www.evilshare.com/fd29041c-f169-102b-a7be-00a0c993e9d6)

I freaking love you!:p

FullMetalJacket
2008-10-22, 17:16
Excellent.

EDIT: 1991 and 1996 are corrupted :(

stateofhack
2008-10-22, 22:08
Excellent.

EDIT: 1991 and 1996 are corrupted :(

Second that, could we have a re-up please :) These are wonderful journals!

fcknut
2008-10-23, 10:50
Oops - my bad! Didn't check the files before uploading...

These should be fine:


J Med Chem. 1991 Jan;34(1):276-81 (http://www.evilshare.com/b908ffd6-f23f-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)


J Med Chem. 1996 Jul 19;39(15):2953-61 ( http://www.evilshare.com/b9135e72-f23f-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)


J. Med. Chem., 1997, 40, (19), pp 2997–3008 (http://www.evilshare.com/b9177af2-f23f-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)

stateofhack
2008-10-23, 19:08
Oops - my bad! Didn't check the files before uploading...

These should be fine:


J Med Chem. 1991 Jan;34(1):276-81 (http://www.evilshare.com/b908ffd6-f23f-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)


J Med Chem. 1996 Jul 19;39(15):2953-61 (http://%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0http://www.evilshare.com/b9135e72-f23f-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)


J. Med. Chem., 1997, 40, (19), pp 2997–3008 (http://www.evilshare.com/b9177af2-f23f-102b-bdf3-0007e90cfb90)

Thanks that should be fine :)

jesus_is_my_homeboy69
2008-10-24, 11:06
Anyone got any ideas for additional OTC synths of 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde.

I've got http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/anethole.2c-b.pdf Anise oil is relatively expensive when compared to other substituted phenols though.

stateofhack
2008-10-24, 16:35
Anyone got any ideas for additional OTC synths of 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde.

I've got http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/anethole.2c-b.pdf Anise oil is relatively expensive when compared to other substituted phenols though.

Of course would you like a list of all the solvents, required chemicals and where to get them and maybe a cookie? ;)

If you where to think a little harder i would look on SM and some older stuff that i posted. But for the record anise oil pretty cheap IMO but yes there are some easier starting points.

hint: photo chem supplier ;)

nshanin
2008-10-25, 02:11
hint: photo chem supplier ;)

Everything's at a photo chem supplier! :mad:

stateofhack
2008-10-26, 02:54
Everything's at a photo chem supplier! :mad:

:mad:... Most not all! but a lot of niffty stuff can be found

*looks at hydroquinone bottle* :)

Cloaked Dagger
2008-10-26, 05:18
:mad:... Most not all! but a lot of niffty stuff can be found

*looks at hydroquinone bottle* :)

And what do you do with hydroquinone?

jesus_is_my_homeboy69
2008-10-26, 07:01
And what do you do with hydroquinone?
Turn it into 4-methoxyphenol? :D

stateofhack
2008-10-26, 11:22
Turn it into 4-methoxyphenol? :D

Bingo!

Eldorhan
2008-10-27, 13:26
Bingo!

Get ready for a sickening smell tho.

Gah !

stateofhack
2008-10-27, 15:58
Get ready for a sickening smell tho.

Gah !

Should see the lab bench, i was cleaning some up and it left a nice black spot :(

squeegee
2008-10-27, 20:42
So, how long am I supposed to let threads go before I lock them before they are too large? I'd hate for things like this to implode. If/when I, or another mod does this, I'd be more then happy to leave it stickied and start a new one. I could even move the last 5 or ten posts into the new one.

Tips/Thoughts/Concerns/Complaints?

This would go for the rare books thread too.


Oh, and stupid noob, I haven't forgotten about you. I've been really busy and money has been tight. Right now I'm trying to use as little gas as I can, and a post office is a good bit away. I'll get around to it sooner or later.

Eldorhan
2008-10-27, 23:45
Dude, this thread is dead since page 15...

Did you just wake up or something :confused::D

stateofhack
2008-10-28, 02:29
So, how long am I supposed to let threads go before I lock them before they are too large? I'd hate for things like this to implode. If/when I, or another mod does this, I'd be more then happy to leave it stickied and start a new one. I could even move the last 5 or ten posts into the new one.

Tips/Thoughts/Concerns/Complaints?

This would go for the rare books thread too.


Oh, and stupid noob, I haven't forgotten about you. I've been really busy and money has been tight. Right now I'm trying to use as little gas as I can, and a post office is a good bit away. I'll get around to it sooner or later.

If your gonna lock the old book thread, please move the links of the last post i did in there in the new one, as they still work and it took me a while to do.

Thank you :)

nshanin
2008-10-29, 06:18
A'ight JP, I think I've pretty much set the formula for my upcoming neurococktail. I take what equates to a multivitamin supplement daily, so I won't be using a B supplement during the dosage. Also, since my intake of vit. C is more than a gram a day already, I won't be taking more during the L-PA dosing. I also have a few interesting/special supplements that I'll be taking along with the L-PA in order to do an overall experiment on their synergistic effects:

To be taken in the afternoon with coffee and perhaps a sandwich:
T+0: 1 gram of fish oil
100mg 5-HTP
2*65mg iron as coordinated iron sulfate (which I'm hoping to replace with an amino acid coordinate in the near future)
3*30mg Ginkgo Biloba extract (24% flavone glycosides w/ some lactones as well)
100mg 7% Panax Ginseng extract (with another 75mg of 5% later in the day). I hope to increase this eventually.
half a teaspoon of piracetam (for the first three days I'll be taking half teaspoon "attack doses" at two other points in the day and adjusting doses outside of the current time range to suit my tastes)
half a teaspoon of choline bitartrate (hopefully this will at least partially make up for the lack of a choline breakdown inhibitor)
800ug folic acid
500mg l-phenylalanine
400mg acetyl carnitine
200mg alpha lipoic acid (with another ~100mg later in the day)
100mg Coenzyme Q10 (for teh lulz)
100mg phosphatidyl serine
~200mg Niacin (with another 37.5mg as part of that supplement later in the day).
T+30: Magnesium Oxide, 500mg (with another ~100mg as the mixed citrate and oxide later in the day). This stuff is absorbed at ridiculously low rates even in stomach acid, so I thought taking an excess amount would be a good idea. Obviously I'll try it sublingually before swallowing.

Unfortunately no tomatoe leaves or huprazine this time around, though I hope to buy some of the latter later this week (if necessary, that is; I have a sneaky suspicion that I'll have enough choline in my system by that time). Anything that stands out as too dangerous to take? I also have half gram tryptophan pills laying around, but I think the 5-HTP should be enough. Any change in cognition will likely come from the piracetam and choline, so the trial is not totally empirical, but this is just playing around and seeing what overall combo gives what effects; I'll take some pills for science later. Will report subjective experience tomorrow.

DiamondX
2008-10-29, 06:50
Will report subjective experience tomorrow.

I'm looking forward to it. I was just thinking about finally trying JPs phenylalanine cocktail, once I get some cash (I'm down to $36, and $20 of that is going towards MDMA :() I'll hit up the vitamin store and report back.

Von Bass
2008-10-29, 15:19
Most interesting nshanin, I look forward to said report :)

nshanin
2008-10-29, 19:15
Drank about 3 cups of strong coffee and a cup of lemonade along with the aforementioned things. Note to self: piracetam tastes like ass, mix it with the choline (which is sour) next time so they cancel each other out. Ate a sandwich immediately after taking the pills and now (t+~20) feel some stomach discomfort and what may very well be the beginnings of a niacin flush. Will report back later.

jesus_is_my_homeboy69
2008-10-29, 21:26
http://www.archive.org/details.php?identifier=pharmacologynotes01shulgin

nshanin
2008-10-29, 21:55
Nothing special. Feeling a bit hungry a little earlier than normal with some moderate stomach pain. Nothing special, maybe I can focus a little bit more, but nothing special (or even anything at all :confused:).

DiamondX
2008-10-30, 03:07
Okay, everyone who wants to upload stuff should contact me for login details. There is an anonymous login everyone else can download but not upload. Just login as 'ftp' or 'anonymous' with no password and you should be able to download everything on there. If anyone wants to volunteer to sort the files that would be great, and I can set you up an account. I only have 60GB free for the server, so no videos or high-res images please, unless they are rare or exceptionally good.

Edit: lol, forgot to post my IP. 168.105.119.22

Cloaked Dagger
2008-10-30, 07:07
Hey, Stupid Nood I was wondering if you had considered selling the Mecke or Simon's reagent on your website? I for one would be very interested in these reagents. Is there a reason why you aren't? Are they harder to make or get the components of?

Von Bass
2008-10-30, 14:17
Okay, everyone who wants to upload stuff should contact me for login details. There is an anonymous login everyone else can download but not upload. Just login as 'ftp' or 'anonymous' with no password and you should be able to download everything on there. If anyone wants to volunteer to sort the files that would be great, and I can set you up an account. I only have 60GB free for the server, so no videos or high-res images please, unless they are rare or exceptionally good.

Edit: lol, forgot to post my IP.

I can't connect to it for some reason, I get a 'connection refused' notice. If you do get an FTP up, it will be totally fucking SWEET!

I probably don't have that much to upload to it, and have a capped connection, :mad:, but I'll do what I can for anything I spot that's missing and important.

fcknut
2008-10-30, 14:54
same here - get a "failed to connect" notice...

stateofhack
2008-10-30, 16:24
same here - get a "failed to connect" notice...

Works fine for me, uploading mucho stuff :)

I can upload but i cant seem to get stuff, as in from DiamondX folder i want to get a book, but tells me i can't :( wtf

fcknut
2008-10-30, 16:55
same here - get a "failed to connect" notice...

duh - was using http instead of ftp...!

Although I can't actually see anything apart from the welcome message - i guess i'm being dense - what do i need to do?

DiamondX
2008-10-30, 17:08
Damnit, I guess I'll mess around with it a little more. It's 7:00AM though, and I have a class I have to go to, but after I get back and sleep a little more I'll work on it. Maybe I don't have the groups set up correctly or something.

fcknut
2008-10-30, 17:46
Damnit, I guess I'll mess around with it a little more. It's 7:00AM though, and I have a class I have to go to, but after I get back and sleep a little more I'll work on it. Maybe I don't have the groups set up correctly or something.

Fair enough!

Fuckin nice work though man - VERY generous of you to let us reprobates fuck with your shit!

nshanin
2008-10-30, 21:32
Same dose today, nothing so far (T+2:00). Delayed the niacin by an hour and the piracetam/choline for 45 minutes. They actually taste worse in conjunction with each other.

nshanin
2008-11-01, 00:13
T+0: Typical dose, no piracetam or choline.
T+40: Pop a magnesium tablet
T+55: Niacin flush begins, no more magnesium remains, slight headache.

No noticeable effects. Will take niacin earlier next time.

blue_monday
2008-11-01, 21:46
T+0: Typical dose, no piracetam or choline.
T+40: Pop a magnesium tablet
T+55: Niacin flush begins, no more magnesium remains, slight headache.

No noticeable effects. Will take niacin earlier next time.

Sorry nshanin, but what is it exactly that you're doing taking all these vitamins? I'm confused.

nshanin
2008-11-02, 01:56
Sorry nshanin, but what is it exactly that you're doing taking all these vitamins? I'm confused.

Piracetam and choline are proven nootropics, most of the rest of the mix enhances the choline and parts of it are used to make dopamine. Just search phenylalanine on totse and it's the most-viewed thread.

No dosing today, will start again on monday and take the niacin (along with some of the less useful supplements) about half an hour before the rest of the mix.

fcknut
2008-11-02, 16:06
Does anyone know where I can see a working version of this trailer (http://www.shulginthefilm.com/trailer.php?time=1222704231.8509) for the forthcoming documentary on Shulgin?

Gotcha (http://www.turncenturypictures.com/work.html)

I've upped it here (http://depositfiles.com/files/4apo54yci) just in case it disappears...!

Von Bass
2008-11-02, 16:37
Gotcha (http://www.turncenturypictures.com/work.html)

I love his workshop, it seems amazing that so much was done in there, I would fucking love to have a place like that when I'm older. I approve of the size of his cactus patch too, that's impressive :)

nshanin
2008-11-03, 07:56
Turns out I'm only taking half the phosphatidylcholine that I thought I was; and change fish oil to 1.2 grams and magnesium to 250mg (though I can double this since I have more than enough magnesium, along with some epsom salts as an alternative source if necessary). Tomorrow will double gingko and ginseng dosages. This brings both amounts to the daily "recommended" amount, though the dose is supposed to be spread out. I've also made an adjustment for my recent realization that the niacin I've been taking is "extended release":rolleyes:. T-20 minutes before dosing I'll take the niacin, then T+20 minutes after dosing I'll take the ginseng, folic acid, and magnesium. While dosing, I'll take everything else, along with a few cups of coffee and a meal (though I prefer it this way, if it's necessary to dose on an empty stomach I can change it). Piracetam and choline dosage times will continue to vary according to my schedule and how much I can stomach that taste.

Nothing noticeable from anything and I've been taking the piracetam and choline since 10-29. :( 26 days of supply left before I have to get more.

JoePedo
2008-11-04, 02:52
slight headache.

Eeeexcellent. That confirms (or likely confirms, presuming an absence of concurrent medical condition, yadda yadda) amino transport across the BBB, at least.

Of course, the fact that your tyramine headache is precipitated by the niacin flush suggests you're not moving it past PA without a lot of pushing... which is sort of problematic.

Turns out I'm only taking half the phosphatidylcholine that I thought I was

You might want to stagger your PC intake. Caffiene - or any phosphatidyldiesterase inhibitor you substitute it with, since that's what it's being used for here - just happens to prevent its breakdown into choline/acetylcholine...

Either save it for the comedown from the caff (at which time you should be at risk for rebound PDE activity - win!), or pop it a couple hours before... yeah, hours.

I've also made an adjustment for my recent realization that the niacin I've been taking is "extended release"

o.O

I've often considered mixing the two for alternate effect, but... it's sort of nice when your liver freaking peaks on TMX, iron, niacin, and folate all at once when the PA gelcap breaks and drops the shit into the peak values...

Anyways, those are a few of the basics. P.S.... do be careful if you're mixing mass choline loading with AChE inhibition, lol... OD is possible... but... we'll see if we can diagnose your hardware operations, crack that skull of yours...

If you're getting headaches, why don't you take a single day off the PA and just toss the caff/iron/THB-cycling? See what happens?

(though I prefer it this way, if it's necessary to dose on an empty stomach I can change it).

You can get all the benefits of an empty stomach and more with a high-carb, low-protien breakfast. ;)

...not that it matters, since you've established that it's porting across the BBB...

Incidentally, what's your opinion on guinea-pigging structured multiweek regimens? ;)

nshanin
2008-11-04, 03:34
Eeeexcellent. That confirms (or likely confirms, presuming an absence of concurrent medical condition, yadda yadda) amino transport across the BBB, at least.

Of course, the fact that your tyramine headache is precipitated by the niacin flush suggests you're not moving it past PA without a lot of pushing... which is sort of problematic.
Good. The first time I've had a headache in the past 2 months was with this dosing.

You might want to stagger your PC intake. Caffiene - or any phosphatidyldiesterase inhibitor you substitute it with, since that's what it's being used for here - just happens to prevent its breakdown into choline/acetylcholine...

Either save it for the comedown from the caff (at which time you should be at risk for rebound PDE activity - win!), or pop it a couple hours before... yeah, hours.
Sorry, I meant phosphatidylserine. I'll keep choline consumption down and distant.

o.O

I've often considered mixing the two for alternate effect, but... it's sort of nice when your liver freaking peaks on TMX, iron, niacin, and folate all at once when the PA gelcap breaks and drops the shit into the peak values...

Anyways, those are a few of the basics. P.S.... do be careful if you're mixing mass choline loading with AChE inhibition, lol... OD is possible... but... we'll see if we can diagnose your hardware operations, crack that skull of yours...
Caffeine shouldn't be that strong of an AChE inhibitor, should it? I'm not taking any solanine or huprazine otherwise.

If you're getting headaches, why don't you take a single day off the PA and just toss the caff/iron/THB-cycling? See what happens?
No headache today, and I took the same stuff (but with double the ginseng and ginko and the niacin a half hour prior). When should the best time be to take this "time-released" shit? If a headache is a positive result then I'll keep taking it simultaneously, but would it benefit me to take a different form?

You can get all the benefits of an empty stomach and more with a high-carb, low-protien breakfast. ;)
I get that regularly. :)

Incidentally, what's your opinion on guinea-pigging structured multiweek regimens? ;)
I'll need to see benefits in the first 2 weeks because I'm an impatient person after seeing almost everyone else get great results. Besides that, sure.