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fuckindouchebag
2008-08-16, 02:37
Is it possible to meditate on the idea of creating your very own customized spirit/entity to do your biddings?

I think so, I read a book about this...There was a process of meditation involved and you needed to make a very specific symbol complete with colors and other symbols co-ordinating with the attributes that you wanted your spirit to have...

I have also partially seen results in my experiments with creating spirits but nothing mind blowing. Just small alterations of reality into my favor . I assume I can get better results if I keep practicing ....yea?

ArmsMerchant
2008-08-18, 18:49
The answer is yes, but I would guess you need another twenty or thirty years of maturing before you try again.

Magick is not an appropriate past-time for children.

evilman
2008-08-19, 23:48
Magick is not an appropriate past-time for children.

ill agree with that but it depends on what you consider a child

fuckindouchebag
2008-08-20, 00:45
The answer is yes, but I would guess you need another twenty or thirty years of maturing before you try again.

Magick is not an appropriate past-time for children.

yea I know. I am a young studier of occult knowledge (early 20's), more specifically knowledge pertaining to altering ones own reality using possibly supernatural forces but I've also fucked around long enough to realize that if not properly endowed with the proper knowledge that so called "magick" can backfire on the user in ugly ways...

Just throwing the subject out there, and trying to find out more information to perhaps create more efficient entities to do my biddings (just small tasks, nothing like blow up the world, make a million dollars etc.)

Rizzo in a box
2008-08-24, 10:27
you can create whatever the hell you like

in the nag hammadi library, there's a piece called "The Perfect Discourse", supposedly a discourse between the thrice great hermes and a student of his

He says that humans have created the gods and worship them (although the gods are not just idols, they have actual effects on people), but it would be more proper for gods to worship humans

Yoh
2008-09-01, 05:42
you can create whatever the hell you like

He says that humans have created the gods and worship them (although the gods are not just idols, they have actual effects on people), but it would be more proper for gods to worship humans

I have come to ponder this greatly. Yet the only fault, or thing that I cannot comprehend, is what happens after death. I mean, don't Christians worship God so they may go to heaven? Didn't the Egyptians pray to Horus to guide them in the afterlife? Therefore the Creators had to have existed before man.

Unless man creates the God in which creates man's afterlife.....o.0

Rizzo in a box
2008-09-01, 07:13
I have come to ponder this greatly. Yet the only fault, or thing that I cannot comprehend, is what happens after death. I mean, don't Christians worship God so they may go to heaven? Didn't the Egyptians pray to Horus to guide them in the afterlife? Therefore the Creators had to have existed before man.

Unless man creates the God in which creates man's afterlife.....o.0

If there is life, there is death. If there is an after life, there is an after death.

If you get rid of the whole life/death dichotomy then what are you left with?

Nietszche wrote "Beyond Good and Evil", but it would be more illuminating to read the not-yet written book, "Beyond Life and Death".

Go to the unborn.

ArmsMerchant
2008-09-02, 20:16
ill agree with that but it depends on what you consider a child

As a general rule, anyone under the age of forty or fifty.

Yoh
2008-09-08, 07:01
If there is life, there is death. If there is an after life, there is an after death.

If you get rid of the whole life/death dichotomy then what are you left with?

Nietszche wrote "Beyond Good and Evil", but it would be more illuminating to read the not-yet written book, "Beyond Life and Death".

Go to the unborn.

Uh what?

Isn't after life and after death the same thing?

Your whole statement pretty much confuses me.

H4NDO
2008-09-08, 14:26
Is it possible to meditate on the idea of creating your very own customized spirit/entity to do your biddings?

Give this a read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa), theres some good book references in there to. If your not into reading that and want results but also dont mind the idea of jerking off into a jar then this is for you (http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/shoggoth.html).

fuckindouchebag
2008-09-08, 21:51
jerking off into a jar then this is for you (http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/shoggoth.html).

Ah, I had a feeling I could manipulate sexual energy into making spirits, I actually attempted something like that with an ex-girlfriend of mine , at the point of orgasm for both of us, I focused on the thought of creating a specific entity to do certain bidding for me, however my g/f noted that it started becoming painful for her to cum after a couple seconds, thus I got freaked out and concluded that perhaps I was getting into something truly occult and I never tried it again.

I will closely examine on how to create a shoggoth...

Rizzo in a box
2008-09-08, 23:05
Ah, I had a feeling I could manipulate sexual energy into making spirits, I actually attempted something like that with an ex-girlfriend of mine , at the point of orgasm for both of us, I focused on the thought of creating a specific entity to do certain bidding for me, however my g/f noted that it started becoming painful for her to cum after a couple seconds, thus I got freaked out and concluded that perhaps I was getting into something truly occult and I never tried it again.

I will closely examine on how to create a shoggoth...

you're not creating any new being, rather what you are doing there is diving up what little is left of yr own being into many separate egos. which then "do your bidding".

if you want to practice true sexual magick, then forget about the animal spasm check out tantric sex.

you will NEVER, ever gain real power by releasing sexual energy.

fuckindouchebag
2008-09-09, 00:22
I have examined the nature of sexual magi"ck". Perhaps intimate and female/male consiousness magick acts are most efficient is to have both partners must be willing to the one specific thought and be part of the ritual on that state of mind, but considering that most chicks will not do that i believe sexual acts to be nothing more than the creative sexual acts of the male superiority, because males outnumber females by 3:1 , therefor rightfully, we should all get three chicks

Yoh
2008-09-09, 00:56
you're not creating any new being, rather what you are doing there is diving up what little is left of yr own being into many separate egos. which then "do your bidding".

if you want to practice true sexual magick, then forget about the animal spasm check out tantric sex.

you will NEVER, ever gain real power by releasing sexual energy.

Man, with all my skeet I can create an army!!

Do the "egos" reside within or out of your own being?