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Some terms have become so negative, that even with good ideas behind them they just can't take off. Likewise, renaming a phrase or concept has done wonders for it, depending on whose side you're on.
Example: When the inheritence tax became the "death tax"
another example: when the war in iraq became the "war on terror"
another one: when global warming became "climate change"
According to a survey done by Frank Luntz' people, the majority of people voted against " welfare(images of niggers, crack, and welfare mommmas, oh my!)" , but asking those same people a seperate question, he found that the majority voted in favor of "aid to the poor"
The majority of people reinforce all snap judgements, and it takes tremendous effort to change their mind. Even if they actively know that the new name for something is the exact same thing, they have been affected at a subconscious level.
As such, I suggest we take it upon ourselves to rename some of the concepts in this forum, to help mitigate preconceived notions and give people a second chance to read certain things, maybe this time they wont read what they want but actually what's written? It doesn't have to be public though, I renamed a term for one argument, and it took a while for the poster to catch on(I C wut u did there)
Also, parallax seems to have a knack for it. Victim disarmament= gun laws.
I'll start.
"In the future we may live under a government-free society, where our economy is still based under supply, demand, and competition, but the population is educated enough and morally inclined not to exploit or be exploited, and violence is used only in self defense. Information would be available freely and instantly. Government would be eradicated not through violence but out of obsolescence"
If I had started the sentence with " In the future we may live in an anarchist society" , your stomach would have churned and you'd be quoting and responding with a knee-jerk reaction faster than I could refresh the page.
Anarchy: government-free
It by no means should be fancy. The simpler the better.
General Patton
2008-08-22, 01:24
You're going to get butt fucked in prison.
Fellow inmates inside correctional facilities may violate your anal sanctity.
Americans love war because it's fucking awesome and they don't have to actually participate on the enemies level.
Americans derive pleasure from supporting our armed forces in their duties.
The CIA is funding Terrorist Organizations and 3rd world dictators with your tax dollars, sending them unmarked cash and weapons.
The Central Intelligence Agency is supporting economic and social development in impoverished regions of the world to help stabilize them from Terrorists and foreign despots.
only black man in vermont
2008-08-25, 14:21
Chomsky uses the phrase "libertarian socialism" to describe his anarchist views -- everyone should switch to this, because the average uneducated person can't get beyond the negative connotations of "anarchy". And anyway, that's the most precise & old school definition of anarchism, a mix of socialist ideas and ye olde Euro-libertarian anti-statist ideas. Yet in the US, everyone thinks of "libertarian" as referring to the laissez-faire capitalist Libertarian Party.
General Patton
2008-08-25, 18:30
The Iraq war gave us Time Horizons, because no one wants to have to keep to a Timeline.
The Abortion controversy reminded us that it's not a choice, it's a child.
But enough about those assholes, we need our own happy fun time words.
What about that guy that was talking about giving out pregnancy licenses out to couples based off of their IQ?
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2137793
Reproduction Licensing? No. Sounds like my car insurance and registration.
Propagation Management? Better, but sounds more like something you would hear in an engineering school.
Proliferation Accreditation? Even better. Proliferation is something that needs to be controlled, like Nuclear Weapons. Accreditation is what colleges and institutions give you.
We should enact laws that will support Proliferation Accreditation, so that accredited couples can join together and reproduce. Couples without credentials will not be allowed to proliferate without facing penalities. Individuals who possess a license can come together into government run singles meetings.
Ok Zay, your turn.
Star Wars Fan
2008-08-26, 06:43
Chomsky uses the phrase "libertarian socialism" to describe his anarchist views -- everyone should switch to this, because the average uneducated person can't get beyond the negative connotations of "anarchy".
Erm...IIRC the joke is people who say that say it because they don't want to be called anarcho-communists given similarity and shit.
And that people know it's a similar system...or am I wrong. Probably.
Social Control....or Social Fabric.
Beating the shit out of your kids....or instilling values and discipline.
Youth expressing themselves sexually....or child porn.
The anal defenses crumpling to sustained invasion by phalluses....or getting ass-fucked.
Civilian Casualties...or...innocent men, women, children having their ass shot to hell and blown up
Digital Rights Management....or...not being able to buy what you download and only 'rent' it and have your own comp not really yours due to all sorts of backdoors and shit.
Autistic....or....Neurodivergent.
Fuck Society up its' hipocritical and stigmatizing ass. Especially given peoples' bullshit connotations. YES THE DEFINITIONS FIT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME STIGMA TO THE WORD AND WHAT IT TENDS TO BE APPLIED TO DOES NOT MEAN YOU FORCE IT ON EVERYONE.
no wonder the people at wrongplanet are so angry at "NT" society....
..on the other hand it can be understanding why they are that way...
...fuck
Star Wars Fan
2008-08-26, 06:45
Reproduction Licensing? No. Sounds like my car insurance and registration.
moar like your preggor license.
SomeLowLife
2008-08-26, 07:42
Today we killed a group of insurgents = Today we killed a group of civilians
No one gives a fuck about "insurgents" dieing because no one knows any insurgents.
Star Wars Fan
2008-09-02, 18:38
found this when doing work for International Relations class..
List of euphemisms
This is a list of euphemisms (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Euphemism).
Contents [showhide (http://javascript<b></b>:toggleToc())] 1 Euphemisms for the profane (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Euphemisms_for_the_profane)
1.1 Religious euphemisms (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Religious_euphemisms)
1.2 Excretory euphemisms (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Excretory_euphemisms)
1.3 Sexual euphemisms (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Sexual_euphemisms)
2 Doublespeak (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Doublespeak)
2.1 Corporate (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Corporate)
2.2 Espionage (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Espionage)
2.3 Military (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Military)
2.4 Political (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Political)
2.5 Social (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Social)
2.6 Sports (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Sports)
2.7 Other (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Other)
Euphemisms for the profane
Religious euphemisms
God (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/God)/God damn:
goldarn
golly
gosh
gadzooks, supposedly God's hooks, the nails by which Jesus (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Jesus) hung on the cross
gawd
goldang
Godfrey Daniel, used by W.C. Fields (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/W.C._Fields)
doggone
gosh darn
dad gum
gad
dog, an anagram (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Anagram) for God used mostly in the phrase Oh my dog! or Oh My Feicking Dog. Also known in the internet world as OMD or OMFD.
(See also tetragrammaton (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Tetragrammaton) for the taboo of the Hebrew name of God.)
Damn/Damnation (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Damnation):
darn
drat
durn
dang
Hell (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Hell):
H-E-double-toothpicks (or -hockey-sticks)
heck (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Heck)
Sam Hill (What in Sam Hill is going on here?)
"The other place" (as opposed to Heaven (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Heaven), not used as an oath)
tarnation
the hot place (now archaic (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Archaic))
Jesus (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Jesus)/Jesus Christ:
gee
jeez
gee whiz
golly gee
jeepers or jeepers creepers
Jiminy Cricket (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Jiminy_Cricket)
The Devil (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Devil):
the dark one
the deuce (The deuce you say!—archaic)
the dickens, in use before the era of Charles Dickens (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Charles_Dickens)
Old Nick
Old Scratch or Old Scrotch
Excretory euphemisms
urine (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Urine)/urinate:
gypsies kiss
number one
pee
piddle
tinkle
wee-wee
whiz
take a leak
relieve oneself
feces (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Feces)/defecation:
number two
bowel movement or bm
droppings
dung
poo (and variations such as poop and poopie)
doo (typically in dog doo, but see below)
night soil archaic, but composted (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Compost) human feces are still so called
stool
toilets (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Toilet) / bathrooms
men's room / women's room
the little boy's room / the little girl's room
restroom
the porcelain god, often in connection with vomiting (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Vomit)
the throne
the head, sailor's terminology. The facility was placed on the bow or head of the ship in case of falls while at sea
the john
the potty
outhouse
backhouse
donnicker
the big white telephone or the white courtesy phone, "talking to John on..."
W.C., short for Water Closet
Sexual euphemisms
The term adult for sexually oriented for pornographic. For example:
adult film for pornographic movie
adult actress or adult actor for porn star
adult film industry for pornography industry
adult bookstore for pornography store
adult novelties for sex toys (often seen on signs)
erotic dancer or exotic dancer for stripper
sex worker for porn star, stripper (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Striptease), or prostitute (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Prostitute)
The term eve teasing (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Eve_teasing) is used for sexual harassment in Indian English (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Indian_English)
genitalia (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Genitalia):
crotch (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Crotch)
gonads (can also refer to the proto-genitalia of an unborn fetus)
groin (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Groin)
private parts/privates
intimate parts (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Intimate_parts)
vagina (an early euphemism from Latin in place of the English cunt (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Cunt))
breasts (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Breast):
mammets (archaic (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Archaism))
bosom
chest
bust
white meat (Victorian (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Victorian_morality)) circumlocution (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Circumlocution) for chicken (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Chicken) breast, to avoid association with human breasts)
buttocks (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Buttocks):
bum
fanny (A.E. only; means vagina in B.E. See: American and British English differences (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/American_and_British_English_differences))
tush or tushy
bottom
posterior
rump
heinie (from "hind end")
keister
Having sex (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Sex):
feick
fuck (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Fuck) (archaic (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Archaic), now a dysphemism)
mac
fornication
fudge
lay with or lie with. For example, Harry lay with Sally
know. Biblical (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Bible) Adam knew Eve; generally phrased know him/her... in the Biblical sense
sleep with
hook-up
make love
have intercourse (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Sexual_intercourse)
carnal knowledge
act of union
do. For example Harry did Sally
Doublespeak (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Doublespeak)
Corporate
layoff, downsize, rightsize, headcount adjustment, RIF (reduction in force), realign: firing employees
also made redundant, let go, dismissed, terminated, services are no longer required, et cetera, for firing in general
The Dilbert (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Dilbert) series satirizes this in one strip in which an employee is unable to figure out he has been laid off.
Interesting fact: in ancient Rome, headcount was the term used to describe the lowest class of workers, the ones just above slaves.
job flexibility: lack of job security (where job security means an actual or implied promise of continued employment)
outsource: firing local employees to hire cheaper labor elsewhere.
replacement workers: scabs or strikebreakers in labour disputes (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Strike)
Espionage (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Espionage)
Star Wars Fan
2008-09-02, 18:39
classified (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/classified): In general usage, "secret"; in governmental usage, information which has been evaluated and possibly assigned a security clearance.
Since at least world war ii (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/world_war_ii), united states military and governmental information has been distinguished into classes corresponding to increasing levels of security clearances required by those people allowed access to it, and has come to be called classified information (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/classified_information) (as in "classified for a particular clearance").
unclassified: In general usage, "not secret"; in governmental usage, information which has not been assigned a security clearance.
Information which has not been assigned a classification; most public information falls into this category, which is the default state of information. Stands in contrast to information which has been evaluated and classified as "public".
declassified: In general and governmental usage, formerly but not presently secret
information which had as some point been classified as secret, but has since been released to the public.
intelligence (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/intelligence_%28information_gathering%29): Information and sources of information (spies and spying)
human intelligence: Information from spies and interrogated prisoners, and other information from human sources (such as weather reports or economic studies) used by a secret or military agency
asset: A secret agency's recruited, clandestine human source in a foreign country (foreign spies)
wet work: assassination (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/assassination)
physical persuasion or physical pressure: torture (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/torture)
military
defense (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/defense): war (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/war)
as in department of defense (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/department_of_defense), formed by the merging of the department of war and department of the navy (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/department_of_the_navy)
neutralize or service: To kill or disable a target
friendly fire (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/friendly_fire): Being inadvertently and mistakenly attacked by your allies
collateral damage (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/collateral_damage): Unintentional killing or damage; bystander deaths and injuries
area denial munitions: landmines (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/landmine)
bombs which kill civilians are, according to the pentagon (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/the_pentagon), "incontinent ordnance (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/ordnance)" (lutz)
preemptive war (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/preemptive_war): To invade (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/invade) a foreign country so that it would not be invaded itself or be subjected to an enemy strike early on
pre-hostility: peace (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/peace)
secure an area (or mop up): Kill remaining enemy soldiers
aerial ordnance the use of bombs or missiles by air
assymetric warfare local violence or unrest, suicide bombing; contained violence.
terrorist or insurgent or freedom fighter: A rebel
casualty: Death or injury
post-traumatic stress disorder, a euphemism for operational exhaustion, euphemism for battle fatigue, a euphemism for shell shock (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/shell_shock). Used as an example of dehumanization of language (particularly by the american comedian george carlin (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/george_carlin)). The terms were used in the vietnam war (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/vietnam_war), korean war (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/korean_war), world war ii (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/world_war_ii) and world war i (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/world_war_i) respectively. Note, however, that post-traumatic stress disorder (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/post-traumatic_stress_disorder) has occurred outside wars, e.g. Among rape victims
engage: To fight the enemy head on
engagement: A small battle, a brief firefight
projectile: Anything that can be fired at the enemy, such as bullets, artillery shells, rockets
political
regime (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/regime): government (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/government) (negative term)
the nazi term endlösung ("final solution"): The holocaust (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/holocaust)
final solution: the holocaust (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/the_holocaust)
doublespeak was very common in the third reich (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/third_reich). Goebbels' reichsministerium für volksaufklärung und propaganda (ministry of the reich for public enlightenment and propaganda (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/propaganda)) coined thousands of new german words. Other examples include: concentration camp (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/concentration_camp) (labor/death camp), "heim ins reich" (occupation of austria (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/austria)), the meanings of "volk" (people) and "rasse" (race).
ethnic cleansing (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/ethnic_cleansing):genocide (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/genocide)
appeasement (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/appeasement): To give in to aggression or, to negotiate an agreement
freedom fighter (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/freedom_fighter): Armed political rebel (positive term) / terrorist (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/terrorist) working for us. This is a fine example of orwellian blackwhite (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/blackwhite).
terrorist (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/terrorist): Armed political rebel (negative term). / freedom fighter (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/freedom_fighter) working for them.
homicide bomber: suicide bomber (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/suicide_bomber) (negative term)
.....
Star Wars Fan
2008-09-02, 18:40
flood control is being gay
taxpayer (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Taxpayer): citizen (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Citizen)
The word taxpayer means an individual or business that pays taxes (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Tax), and when used in a discussion of government revenues is not doublespeak. However, using the term interchangeably with citizen does two things. One, it disguises the fact that political policies that apply to individual taxpayers also apply to corporate taxpayers. Two, it appeals to middle-class citizens by excluding citizens perceived to be bludgers (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Bludger), such as welfare beneficiaries and others perceived to pay little or no tax. More subtly, use of this term dilutes the idea of citizenship itself, and implies that there is nothing more to society (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Society) than mere economic rationalism (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Economic_rationalism), as per Margaret Thatcher (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Margaret_Thatcher)'s famous pronouncement. This usage has become popular in the names of certain conservative groups, for example, Taxpayers for Common Sense and National Taxpayers Union (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/National_Taxpayers_Union) in the United States (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/United_States), the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the lobby group Association of Consumers and Taxpayers (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Association_of_Consumers_and_Taxpayers) in New Zealand (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/New_Zealand).
the Axis of Evil coined by the Bush Administration (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Bush_Administration), countries with defense policies and international relations opposed to those of the United States.
internment facility: prison
protective custody for "imprisonment (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Imprisonment) without due process (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Due_process) of law"
intervention: invasion (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Invasion)
executive action: assassination (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Assassination)
detainee: non-citizen held in immigration detention centers by many countries or those held in Guantanamo Bay (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Guantanamo_Bay) by the United States (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/United_States)
Social
job seekers: the unemployed (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Unemployed)
asylum seekers: refugees (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Refugees)
suspected illegal entrants or illegals: used when asylum seekers (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Asylum_seekers) is considered to grant too much legitimacy
unsavory character: criminal (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Criminal) (or, more specifically suspected (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Suspect) criminal)
involuntary conversion: plane crash (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Plane_crash) (Lutz)
disabled, differently abled, or handi-capable: crippled
sales advisor: shop assistant
senior citizen: old person
visually impaired: blind or nearly so
comfort women (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Comfort_women): prostitute, later specifically women forced into sexual slavery (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Sexual_slavery) during World War II (see also Joy Division (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Joy_Division))
Customer Service Representative: a title given to today's bank (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Bank) tellers
illegal alien: illegal immigrants
Sports
cost certainty: salary-cap; often used by NHL commissioner Gary Bettman (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Gary_Bettman) during his negotiations with the NHL Players Association during the 2004-05 NHL lockout; Bettman wants to impose a salary cap on NHL teams
incident: a fight, or some other violent action such as a slash in hockey that results in suspension and/or fine, or a fight between a player and a fan
upper/lower body injury: often used in hockey, this term implies that a player is injured but the specifics of the injury are not disclosed; especially used during playoff time so that opposing teams will not be able to find out the extent of the players' injuries; for example, a leg injury can be classified as a "lower body injury", a shoulder injury can be classified as an "upper body injury"
scratch: used in hockey, implies that a player is taken off the roster for a game usually due to injury (scratching a player off the roster list); a healthy scratch means that the player (usually a struggling player) is taken off the roster due to the coach's decision, not because of an injury
contraction: a plan to reduce (fold) a number of teams in a league in the hopes of increasing its competitiveness and reducing the financial losses of the league; Major League Baseball once considered folding the Minnesota Twins (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Minnesota_Twins) and the Montreal Expos (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Montreal_Expos)
objects: things thrown onto the field resulting in the disruption of a game/match, such as bottles, cups, flares
seeking a trade: a sign that a player badly wants out of his current team for various reasons
advisor: a position at the executive level whose job is to advise the General Manager and/or President of a team; hiring an advisor usually implies that there is a degree of incompetency at the management level
Other
terminated: Mafia (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Mafia)-style killings
spontaneous energetic disassembly for "explosion (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Explosion)" (reportedly used by a director of the Three Mile Island (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Three_Mile_Island) nuclear power (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Nuclear_power) plant)
computer-implemented invention: computer programming method in the context of patent (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Patent) law, because software patents (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Software_patents) are a controversial topic
deactivating satellite receivers: doing malicious damage to receiver firmware in response to widespread pirate decryption (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Pirate_decryption) problems (this euphemism was used in Globe and Mail (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Globe_and_Mail) coverage of Bell ExpressVu (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/Bell_ExpressVu) - both just happen to be owned by the same company)
source:
http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms (http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/List_of_euphemisms#Euphemisms_for_the_profane)