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Josh371134
2008-08-28, 08:26
I think that even if there isnt a god its still good to belive in a higher power. Cuz if you really do believe it creates a placebo or something and can give you your own inner courage or strength. It will help you knowing that your not doing something alone. like when you were younger your stuffed animal would protect you from boogie men and shit.
honkymahfah
2008-08-29, 02:36
this doesn't even truly warrant a reply, but what the hell.
What you are claiming, is that God is just the magical teddy bear for grown ups right? How is it beneficial to the human race to never grow out of this childish belief that our life is too scary to be controlled by ourselves alone. We need to learn somewhere between the age of 8 and 18 that there is nothing stopping us from jumping into oncoming traffic but ourselves. God is a safety net for those who have trouble committing themselves to their own lives.
BrokeProphet
2008-08-29, 03:08
this doesn't even truly warrant a reply, but what the hell.
What you are claiming, is that God is just the magical teddy bear for grown ups right? How is it beneficial to the human race to never grow out of this childish belief that our life is too scary to be controlled by ourselves alone. We need to learn somewhere between the age of 8 and 18 that there is nothing stopping us from jumping into oncoming traffic but ourselves. God is a safety net for those who have trouble committing themselves to their own lives.
Well said.
Josh371134
2008-08-29, 08:53
this doesn't even truly warrant a reply, but what the hell.
What you are claiming, is that God is just the magical teddy bear for grown ups right? How is it beneficial to the human race to never grow out of this childish belief that our life is too scary to be controlled by ourselves alone. We need to learn somewhere between the age of 8 and 18 that there is nothing stopping us from jumping into oncoming traffic but ourselves. God is a safety net for those who have trouble committing themselves to their own lives.
you dont absolutely need God it just helps. Hes not fucking magic, just helpful. And i dont think God should rule your entire life hes there to just help you out. I guess the teddy bear thing was a bad analogy.
EpicurusGeorge
2008-08-31, 16:41
I think that even if there isnt a god its still good to belive in a higher power. Cuz if you really do believe it creates a placebo or something and can give you your own inner courage or strength. It will help you knowing that your not doing something alone. like when you were younger your stuffed animal would protect you from boogie men and shit.
That reminds me of one of my Christian friends. I offered to read any book of the bible, on the grounds that he would read it as well and we could discuss it. He has to this day never taken me up on the offer. I personally think that reading the Bible is hard for many Christians, because it's so easy to find inconsistencies in it. You are a good example of what most Christians think, but are too afraid to verbalize, because that would be blasphemous against their omnipotent teddy bear. :rolleyes:
Who's more cowardly? The man who doesn't believe in God, or the person who refuses to live life without a safety net in the form of a "nice after thought".
BrokeProphet
2008-09-01, 08:37
you dont absolutely need God it just helps. Hes not fucking magic, just helpful. And i dont think God should rule your entire life hes there to just help you out. I guess the teddy bear thing was a bad analogy.
God does not help out...
God is an crutch for people who are not crippled.
You can do just fine on your own, without god, if not better.
Punk_Rocker_22
2008-09-02, 17:28
Believing in a god is not beneficial in anyway.
Atheist: This is all we get, lets make the best of it
Christian: Its ok if I murder, rape, and steal as long as I say I'm sorry each Sunday.
Whatever, we are nation of fake Christians anyways. Most of them haven't read the bible, don't go church every Sunday, don't believe we should stone gays to death, and a lot of them are even open to the idea of evolution. They're hardly even Christians at all. At best they make some odd rationalizations like "Oh, the bible wasn't meant to be taken literally." Once they get passed that stage a lot of them say they aren't religious but they're spiritual. Then they go to list some bullshit about energy that's "unique" to their beliefs (ironically, most of these explanations sounds exactly the same).
You go from Christian to fake Christian to energy douche bag. From any bystander its clear that you realized religion is a crock of shit but you're afraid to give up on the hope that there's an afterlife. Religion is for the mentally weak.
Punk_Rocker_22
2008-09-02, 17:33
"Most people can't bear to sit in church for an hour on Sundays. How are they supposed to live somewhere very similar to it for eternity?"
-- Mark Twain
ArmsMerchant
2008-09-02, 18:54
Believing in a god is not beneficial in anyway.
Atheist: This is all we get, lets make the best of it
Christian: Its ok if I murder, rape, and steal as long as I say I'm sorry each Sunday.
Whatever, we are nation of fake Christians anyways.
You seem to define "fake" as being non-fundamentalist. That aside, a recent national survey seems to bear out your contention.
Many so-called Christians profess beliefs which are at variance to the written dogma of their professed faith.
This means--HORRORS-- that thousands of people are starting to think for themselves.
I think that even if there isnt a god its still good to belive in a higher power.
Works for a lot of alcoholics! IMHO god has nothing to do with comforting teddy bears and everything to do with challenging oneself to strive for ... high ideals. Jesus need not have existed for one to benefit from the ethics and morality he is credited to have taught. To my mind, religions are the efforts of our ancestors to pass on to us the things they found to be of value in living a happy life.
Sure the fearmongers and powerbrokers have had a field day twisting the facts to suit their purposes, this is why one is encouraged to seek the truth. "Seek and you will find". "Knock and it will be opened unto you". Have some faith in yourself and your ability to discern what is useful and what is not.
The Four Reliances
First, rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words;
Second, rely on the teachings, not on the personality of the teacher;
Third, rely on real wisdom, not superficial interpretation;
And fourth, rely on the essence of your pure Wisdom Mind, not on judgmental perceptions. Buddha
TheMessiahComplex
2008-09-02, 22:16
You seem to define "fake" as being non-fundamentalist. That aside, a recent national survey seems to bear out your contention.
Many so-called Christians profess beliefs which are at variance to the written dogma of their professed faith.
This means--HORRORS-- that thousands of people are starting to think for themselves.
Doesn't have to mean that.
Maybe I'm just being cynical but if I had to guess why that is, I'd say more often than not it's because people are just too lazy to learn about their own religion so they profess some variant that happens to be what ever they've picked up from their environment and upbringing.
I wish I had the time and resources to poll a few thousand people about this.
Like say, poll 10,000 Catholics that are eating meat on a Friday and ask them why they don't feel the need to abstain. I'd be impressed if more than 10% had an answer better than 'I don't feel like it' or 'I don't believe we have to do that' with no real substantiation.