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Terror Alert
2008-09-18, 19:05
If one is supposed to have faith in God and Jesus Christ, then why are you scared into it by threats of hell?

Example: You love to sin and really, really do not give a shit about most peoples pain that have nothing to do with you. You like drugs,sex,alcohol,hurting people,revenge,assault,violence,you are selfish...etc. Then one day you discover that God is real and you start to hate God because you can no longer continue to do what you do for fear of hell. You don't care about the punishments on earth because to you, life is a punishment. You didn't ask to be born. It's not that you had a horrible life, it's more like you don't like the fact that you are put on earth just to obey a God that doesn't approve of the things you love. You are starting to become more clever and devious in your sin and you like it. You have hardly lived yet, but now you have to give it all up just for the day you die. You know there is a hell and a heaven but yet you wish there wasn't. You try to cut deals with God to keep some of the sin. Just the sex, just the revenge, just the laughter of others misery...please! Ok maybe not the last one but let me keep the sex! You don't want a conscience, not right now...you never needed one, never had one before. Yet you know now that conscience is not a feeling of remorse, it's just knowlegde. Con(with)-science(knowlegde).

QUESTIONS:

I don't think its truly faith when you want to change just because you don't want to endure eternal torture. In essence is God indirectly forcing you to side with him?

He is the Truth. Yet I don't want to accept the truth. I don't want to give up sex!

Seriously, I don't want to marry and have kids. I just want to fuck! Why does God deny me my fornication? Sure, I can go do it but what if I die right after driving back home?

Why does God need us to be perfect? To enter heaven? What if I truly don't want to live in a sexless paradise? or a paradise where there is just one person to fuck? I can give up the drugs (already did, for good), the alcohol (working on it), the revenge (painfully doing it, taking it on chin but still sucks to not be able to strike back),

The sex is not something I am willing to give up and what good is giving up all the other sins if I still fuck and masturbate and watch porn and curse and all of that? I cannot be sinless. Life would be boring. I don't want to live for the Lord, or God. I just want to live for myself.

I just know that God exists for sure because he's got me out of trouble.

There is nothing better than sex!

BrokeProphet
2008-09-19, 00:11
Yes, the free will God gives us is pointless if he puts a gun to our head and tells us to suck his dick. We still have a choice mind you, just not a very good one.

Fellate a God, or die.

I cannot be sinless. Life would be boring. I don't want to live for the Lord, or God. I just want to live for myself.

Many people would rather laugh with the sinners, than cry with saints.

I just know that God exists for sure because he's got me out of trouble.

You sure about that?

Terror Alert
2008-09-19, 11:37
You sure about that?

Absolutely, I should be in prison right now. There is no logical way that a stranger can just drop serious charges against you after traumatizing them and beating them almost to death. Just doesn't happen....but it happened to me. Didn't have to post bail. Nothing. Went free after one night.

What else could it have been? The person had full control to sue me, lock me up and then some...but they didn't. All I got was a restraining order.

I am not sorry for what I did, yet I have been pardoned. It's because people pray for me and these people happen to be true believers in Christ.

I no longer commit violent crimes but I still sin. As we all do as it's in our nature.

ArmsMerchant
2008-09-19, 18:32
TA, your story is testament to the power of forgiveness. Here is some of what "A Course in Miracles" has to say about that:

Do you want peace? Forgiveness offers it.
Do you want happiness, a quiet mind,
a certainty of purpose,
and a sense of worth and beauty
that transcends the world?

Do you want a quietness that cannot be disturbed,
a gentleness that cannot be hurt,
a deep abiding comfort,
and a rest so perfect it can never be upset?

All this forgiveness offers you.

BrokeProphet
2008-09-21, 01:20
Absolutely, I should be in prison right now. There is no logical way that a stranger can just drop serious charges against you after traumatizing them and beating them almost to death.

There exists more logical reasons that this happened, than divine intervention. Basically any reason that does not start with a supernatural premise is more logical.

An example:

They did not want the hassle of a criminal court case.