basically, i'm using wireshark to get someones ip over msn.

is there anyone here that has done a similar thing?

any tips?

is there any way to get it by simply chatting?

without having to send a large file?

any help would be appreciated.

or anyone wanting to find the ip of *edit out* just for fun could post his ip it would save me alot of headscratching

thank yooooo!

His/Her ip will serve you no purpose, first of all you don't have any skills, don't try to make anybody belive otherwise; second of all, no competent isps provide static IPs to personal customers by default.
This means in a couple hours/few days his/her IP will *change*.
What you defintely would want is install some form of *malware* on his/her computer that will dump the file/files you want from his/her computer to a server which you have access to.
A SIMPLE batch/shell script is powerful enought to do that.

How to get her/him to download and *install* the malware resolves more around social engineering, use your imagination.
Example:
Secret msn service is now available to him/her because he/she did x and y.

no competent isps provide static IPs to personal customers by default.


Not true. I have a Static, and so do a few people I know. It sucks balls when you can't get rid of logs... but oh well. Shit happens.

Not true. I have a Static, and so do a few people I know. It sucks balls when you can't get rid of logs... but oh well. Shit happens.

Sorry, i blindly assume everybody lived in the same country as i do.

as long as he doesn't turn off his router, the IP shouldn't change.

which will give me time enough to do a whois search and get the address of his router. I then phone up directory enquiries in Malta and then ask for the number of Cammilleri at 33 bullshit street malta city, malta.

then i phone him up all times of the day and night from other peoples phones. and tell him i fucked his mother.

I openly admit I have NO SKILZ. but this little fued is forcing me to learn some.
thanks for all the help.

i don't care about fucking up his computer, pc's are cheap.

actually surprising him with a home phonecall is what i want to achieve.

or i might post him some shit in an envelope. depends how far i want to take it i spoos

as long as he doesn't turn off his router, the IP shouldn't change.

which will give me time enough to do a whois search and get the address of his router. I then phone up directory enquiries in Malta and then ask for the number of Cammilleri at 33 bullshit street malta city, malta.

then i phone him up all times of the day and night from other peoples phones. and tell him i fucked his mother.

I openly admit I have NO SKILZ. but this little fued is forcing me to learn some.
thanks for all the help.

i don't care about fucking up his computer, pc's are cheap.

actually surprising him with a home phonecall is what i want to achieve.

or i might post him some shit in an envelope. depends how far i want to take it i spoos

I do not know in what country you live in, but in Canada major ISPs usually does not keep a log of which account had what IP and at what time. (it's also against their policy) The DSL connection is reseted after a certain number of days. The passwords are encrypted and can't be retrived even by the admins, they have to reset the password.

Different ISPs have different policies, you might not be able to get his phone number that way.

Should we just like, stop responding to this sort of stuff?

msn no longer uses direct connections for any transfers or chats other than file transfers where the two computers have the same external email address and can ping each other. hence, ethereal / netstat -a hasnt worked since about version 5 of msn messenger.

msn no longer uses direct connections for any transfers or chats other than file transfers where the two computers have the same external email address and can ping each other. hence, ethereal / netstat -a hasnt worked since about version 5 of msn messenger.


could you please explain what that means "file transfers where the two computers have the same external email address and can ping each other."
does that mean what i'm trying to do is impossible? or will sending a large file either way mean that there will be a direct connection, say after the file takes over a minuit to transfer or during busy times?

forgive my noobishness, but i seem not to be able to see what is coming over the internet on wireshark. i'm getting stuff from my router, it's just showing packets coming from "router name"

i'v tried fucking with the settings on my router, but i'm far too much of a nub to actually understand much of what's going on.

you see, like a large proportion of hyumanity i have never done any formal education in networking etc. and i'm trying to teach myself the basics.

i'm simply begging for your help. I will fetch water and stand outside the dojo untill you teach me your kung fu.

could you please explain what that means "file transfers where the two computers have the same external email address and can ping each other."
does that mean what i'm trying to do is impossible? or will sending a large file either way mean that there will be a direct connection, say after the file takes over a minuit to transfer or during busy times?

forgive my noobishness, but i seem not to be able to see what is coming over the internet on wireshark. i'm getting stuff from my router, it's just showing packets coming from "router name"

i'v tried fucking with the settings on my router, but i'm far too much of a nub to actually understand much of what's going on.

you see, like a large proportion of hyumanity i have never done any formal education in networking etc. and i'm trying to teach myself the basics.

i'm simply begging for your help. I will fetch water and stand outside the dojo untill you teach me your kung fu.

You're an idiot.

You're an idiot.

what is the point of that?

If I'm an idiot then tell me where i'm going wrong.

so far no one has demonstrated their superior expertise.

this is a networking forum, I have a networking question!

throw me a fucking bone here!

what is the point of that?

If I'm an idiot then tell me where i'm going wrong.

so far no one has demonstrated their superior expertise.

this is a networking forum, I have a networking question!

throw me a fucking bone here!

Actually this is the network security forum.

You're an idiot in several ways. The only cure for that is knowledge. I can't help you get that, I can only tell you facts.

what is the point of that?

If I'm an idiot then tell me where i'm going wrong.

so far no one has demonstrated their superior expertise.

this is a networking forum, I have a networking question!

throw me a fucking bone here!

I wrote my sticky for people like you read it. It will contain anything you need to know about networking basics, from the ground up- and if you can't understand it you're shit out of luck. Getting someone's IP through wireshark with no knowledge is like attempting Calculus with a 4th grade math background- you might know what the numbers mean but you won't fucking get it. There is no easy way and you won't do this in a week, or the next week, maybe if you spent a month seriously studying the ideas and concepts you MIGHT at that point BEGIN to think about "getting sum1s IP" besides if you knew anything about IP addresses you would understand it hardly means shit all...but I'm not getting into that.

192.168.1.100, hack me =)

you can't.


PS: Before anyone tries being a smartass I'm not posting an external one since it violates the rules...

I read the sticky before I posted.

I know the basics ok. I know the difference betwean an external IP and an internal IP, I'm not a chimp, I'm a human being.

the sticky doesn't help with my question. it's like saying "study the laws of thermodynamics and memorise them" when I'm asking how to use the cooker.

if you don't know, just say you don't know.
why are you acting all superior? you can't answer my question so you just troll my thread.

I read the sticky before I posted.

I know the basics ok. I know the difference betwean an external IP and an internal IP, I'm not a chimp, I'm a human being.

the sticky doesn't help with my question. it's like saying "study the laws of thermodynamics and memorise them" when I'm asking how to use the cooker.

if you don't know, just say you don't know.
why are you acting all superior? you can't answer my question so you just troll my thread.

He's acting superior because "sum1" types like a chimp.

What you're asking is pretty much impossible anyway. You wouldn't use wireshark.

You got to look hard for the internet underground.

What you're asking is pretty much impossible anyway. you wouldn't use wireshark


so it's not TOTALLY impossible!

so what would i use? not wireshark? any clues?

so it's not TOTALLY impossible!

so what would i use? not wireshark? any clues?

It isn't impossible if you connect directly to the internet from you computer (no routers, fully reachable IP). You could use wireshark and have the person connect to your computer on say a webserver, and then get their address from wireshark. However, you'd also have their address from the access logs of the server, so wireshark is pointless.

IRC DCC transfers could be used with wireshark to grab an IP.

But mostly, you just want to set up a server or something (simple webserver hosting one small image hidden in another page is good) and have the target connect to you.

What might be done with an IP, do you think?