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crime_lord
2008-09-26, 00:52
Can you hook something that is normally powered by a 12v 250mA AC wall adapter directly up to a battery? Like lets say this one which is 12v and 4.5amps.....
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSK06&P=7

Will the extra amperage affect what I'm hooking it up to?

Spatula Tzar
2008-09-26, 02:39
The amperage of batteries and power supplies is a maximum, not a constant. It will be fine.

Hung Like Christ
2008-09-26, 04:47
The amperage of batteries and power supplies is a maximum, not a constant. It will be fine.

another way to look at it may be to imagine two gasoline engines.
One may be a lawn mower, the other may be a truck engine.
They both could be feeding off one single gas tank via two hoses.
the lawn mower will be sipping gas.
The truck engine will be guzzling gas.

anyhoo, your wall adapter is like the smaller motor sipping fuel, and it will mathematically last for 18 hours before you need to recharge the battery.

MunkeyQ
2008-09-26, 14:32
That's fine.

The only time you need to worry about using a power supply with a bigger current rating is with unregulated supplies.

scovegner
2008-09-26, 14:41
The amperage of batteries and power supplies is a maximum, not a constant. It will be fine.

Batteries are usually measured in 'amp-hours' or milliamphours, which means that if you draw a current of one amp for an hour, you'd use one amphour, so if you had a 4.5ah battery and drained it to zero capacity (something you don't want to do too often), then you could run a 250ma load for 18 hours without recharging.

SLP
2008-09-28, 13:36
The only time you need to worry about using a power supply with a bigger current rating is with unregulated supplies.

This.

If you notice on the picture it says 4.5Ah. That is a measure of charge, not the maximum current. Maximum current will be well over 250mA.

It should run for about 18 hours.

MunkeyQ
2008-09-28, 15:10
Also, to the OP - remember, you really, really, shouldn't take a lead-acid battery (like the one you have there) down past 70% of its capacity.

This means you should never actually drain it fully, or even half way.

You'll otherwise end up replacing the battery rather soon as the plates sulphate over.

Hung Like Christ
2008-09-28, 16:09
That's fine.

The only time you need to worry about using a power supply with a bigger current rating is with unregulated supplies.

I'm not sure what you mean by that?
Regulation is to the voltage, not the current.
Devices will always only draw what they need, just like a gasoline engine will draw from the gas tank what it needs, and no more.

MunkeyQ
2008-09-28, 17:27
I'm not sure what you mean by that?
Regulation is to the voltage, not the current.
Devices will always only draw what they need, just like a gasoline engine will draw from the gas tank what it needs, and no more.
What I mean is that if an unregulated supply is rated at 12v at 4A, if you only draw 100mA the voltage will be quite a bit more.

Not an issue with most devices, but some particularly sensitive things might fry.

Hung Like Christ
2008-09-28, 18:31
OK , I buy that. ^^
Here is my overall saying about voltage:
Voltage is Sloppy.
If you're within a few volts (3 or 4) , plus or minus, nearly every device will do fine.
It's a rare device that wouldn't, is what I've seen.

Jaguarstrike
2008-09-28, 19:40
OK , I buy that. ^^
Here is my overall saying about voltage:
Voltage is Sloppy.
If you're within a few volts (3 or 4) , plus or minus, nearly every device will do fine.
It's a rare device that wouldn't, is what I've seen.

USB devices dont like it when the port is pushing out 8 volts instead of 5.

Hung Like Christ
2008-09-29, 16:47
I may still be living in an analog world.
I don't have any USB powered devices, presently.
I'm a bit surprised to hear 3 volts more is a problem.
I stand to be corrected.

MunkeyQ
2008-09-29, 19:03
I may still be living in an analog world.
I don't have any USB powered devices, presently.
I'm a bit surprised to hear 3 volts more is a problem.
I stand to be corrected.
I've got a 64mb flash drive somewhere which keeps on kicking up read/write errors - but it is recognised by the computer. I'll dig it out and do a bit of over-voltage destructive testing...

G_P
2008-10-02, 06:30
HOLY HELL IS THAT LITTLE BATTERY EXPENSIVE!!!!

I used to get 35ah 12v wheelchair batts brand new for 35 bucks! and they were made by Panasonic!

Either that battery has some magical features or your just paying more because its from an RC store.