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Johnny Bonanno
2008-09-29, 04:13
Im enlisting on Friday for combat engineering and am doing a non deployment deal for 3 years, would my recruiter be hiding anything from me that could involve me being stuck in Iraq forever? Sorry if this is the wrong forum.
slippyfist
2008-09-29, 04:19
It is.
Metaphysicist
2008-09-29, 04:34
Yup, wrong forum. Moving now...
Johnny Bonanno
2008-09-29, 04:39
Yup, wrong forum. Moving now...
Oh, thanks.
escape_reality
2008-09-29, 04:40
hahaha! your recruitment officer lied, enjoy Iraq.
even if you signe a 'non combatant' deal?? what ever the fuck that is. you will be sent to iraq
Johnny Bonanno
2008-09-29, 04:45
hahaha! your recruitment officer lied, enjoy Iraq.
even if you signe a 'non combatant' deal?? what ever the fuck that is. you will be sent to iraq
Non deployment deal dumb fuck. Fuck off
escape_reality
2008-09-29, 04:59
Non deployment deal dumb fuck. Fuck off
Post a website that explains it that ends in .gov
you got raped
StealthyRacoons
2008-09-29, 18:32
non-deployment? wtf? i know 92 day reservist cannot be deployed until training was complete
beatmeofficer
2008-09-29, 18:55
I have a buddy in AIT who joined the reserves and is doing ROTC. According to him, he will be in non-deployable status until he finishes ROTC and becomes a lieutenant. That's the only way I know of to be non-deployable, and there's probably some way you could still get screwed.
Seriously, though, why do you want to join the Army? Why not the Air Force? It would be much safer, you'll still get the GI Bill money, and your quality of life will be better. If not the Air Force, how about the Navy?
Have you seriously considered what it will be like having to take orders all the time?
(During the training at least) You'll have sergeants telling you the proper way to roll your socks and on which shelf to store them. You may be coming back from the dining facility at AIT at 0100 (because the schools are overcrowded and you have to take classes at night) and get roped into carrying wall lockers up stairs for the next four hours because a sergeant didn't like your haircut. How about getting woken up in the middle of the night and made to push because one of 8 guys in your 4 man room is sleeping without a shirt on. Like cutting grass? I know guys who pushed lawn mowers and ran weed eaters every day for three months while waiting for their classes to start.
Maybe the regular Army is chill. I've heard it is. I'm still doing training. Still, there are plenty of people in my company who joined motivated and since went AWOL, deserted, got kicked out, or managed to get discharged for medical reasons simply because the experience had been so shitty for them.
By the way, when you get to MEPS, don't let them convince you to move into a 25-series MOS. (With the exception of 25L), you'll get stuck at the shithole that is Fort Gordon for 20+ weeks. It sucks.
Johnny Bonanno
2008-09-30, 03:15
Yeah it is actually the reserves, and by non-deployment deal i mean i would not be shipped out while im actively enlisted
Lost in Kanuckistan
2008-09-30, 23:03
If you are not Active Duty, like in the Reserve or the National Guard, you're recruiter could be right. " YOU" will not be deployed.
Combat engineers are in high demand in combat zones.
BUT, you're Unit can be deployed. And you are going.
I was a recruiter for 8 years. If your recruiter told you you will not be deployed, he is lying to you. A recruiter cannot promise anything.
BUT: when you go to MEPS and you sit with a counselor, everything written on your contract will happen.
I doubt they will write on there that you will not be deployed.
But, hey, the Army is a job like any other job anywhere else.
It's what you make of it.
I enjoyed the hell out of the time I was in.
DesertRebel
2008-10-05, 01:14
If you are not Active Duty, like in the Reserve or the National Guard, you're recruiter could be right. " YOU" will not be deployed.
Combat engineers are in high demand in combat zones.
BUT, you're Unit can be deployed. And you are going.
I was a recruiter for 8 years. If your recruiter told you you will not be deployed, he is lying to you. A recruiter cannot promise anything.
BUT: when you go to MEPS and you sit with a counselor, everything written on your contract will happen.
I doubt they will write on there that you will not be deployed.
But, hey, the Army is a job like any other job anywhere else.
It's what you make of it.
I enjoyed the hell out of the time I was in.
You should post a thing about the in's, out's, and all the little dirty secrets of the recruiting business...
I have a buddy in AIT who joined the reserves and is doing ROTC. According to him, he will be in non-deployable status until he finishes ROTC and becomes a lieutenant. That's the only way I know of to be non-deployable, and there's probably some way you could still get screwed.
Seriously, though, why do you want to join the Army? Why not the Air Force? It would be much safer, you'll still get the GI Bill money, and your quality of life will be better. If not the Air Force, how about the Navy?
Have you seriously considered what it will be like having to take orders all the time?
(During the training at least) You'll have sergeants telling you the proper way to roll your socks and on which shelf to store them. You may be coming back from the dining facility at AIT at 0100 (because the schools are overcrowded and you have to take classes at night) and get roped into carrying wall lockers up stairs for the next four hours because a sergeant didn't like your haircut. How about getting woken up in the middle of the night and made to push because one of 8 guys in your 4 man room is sleeping without a shirt on. Like cutting grass? I know guys who pushed lawn mowers and ran weed eaters every day for three months while waiting for their classes to start.
Maybe the regular Army is chill. I've heard it is. I'm still doing training. Still, there are plenty of people in my company who joined motivated and since went AWOL, deserted, got kicked out, or managed to get discharged for medical reasons simply because the experience had been so shitty for them.
By the way, when you get to MEPS, don't let them convince you to move into a 25-series MOS. (With the exception of 25L), you'll get stuck at the shithole that is Fort Gordon for 20+ weeks. It sucks.
All the things you have said about the army happens, I have been there, and done that. It builds character. It's good for a young person to do this because it shows you how shitty life can be. You will learn to enjoy things more in life. I would never take back what the army has taught me. They have provided some of the worst experiences of my life, but those experiences shape you forever. The army refines you into a productive member of society. You should not talk this slander about a service unless you have done it. Point made.
By the way, this post was not a 'flame' against you, I am just trying to tell the benefits of what you were speaking so negative about. Please don't try to persuade others unless you know what it's all about.
I have a childhood friend who's a Sapper (combat engineer) in the Army, and a Sapper is simply an infantryman who knows better how to blow shit up than a regular infantryman, so you're more than likely going to the sandbox.
In the words of Colby Buzzel about his recruiter; "He lied."
i think you are a fag and a fucking pussy. do your fucking time, head overseas like everyone with a fucking pair, and do your fucking job.
now get in the front leaning rest