View Full Version : GBL to GHB conversion
steel211
2008-09-30, 01:00
I'd ask this in lab tips but there's no traffic there, someone here has to know this.
I tried to convert 50ml gbl to ghb and added a little extra lye and ended up with pH 10 so I added some vinegar and now its at pH 7 but still smells just like gbl kind of. The reaction seemed to go well.. it was so hot it was boiling out.
Is this now safe to drink? I know lye is harmful or fatal even if ingested so can I consume this? What happens to the lye that makes it safe to drink? If it even is..
Please any and all help is highly appreciated.
stupid noob
2008-09-30, 01:05
If the PH is 7 it is fine to consume, as far as that is concerned. And yeah, LT has traffic, we would have more if everyone didn't decide to just bring their questions here.
steel211
2008-09-30, 01:09
what happens to the lye in ghb synthesis that makes it safe to consume? also mad crystals are forming i would prefer liquid what can I do just add a few drops of water etc and stir stir stir?
how should this smell if I could ask? and well just about anything else you could tell me is highly appreciated cause i'm selling this stuff and i don't want to kill people, or myself, ya dig?
stupid noob
2008-09-30, 01:11
what happens to the lye in ghb synthesis that makes it safe to consume?
If you don't know the answer to that question you have no business running the reaction to begin with. Learn stoich.
steel211
2008-09-30, 01:18
If you don't know the answer to that question you have no business running the reaction to begin with. Learn stoich.
well i read up on it quickly and i'm under the assumption from the skipping i did that as long as the correct ratios are in order and the pH is at the suitable level this is safe to consume correct?
i understand where you're coming from trying to help me teach myself but this involves a lot of peoples safety so would you mind helping me out a bit please?
Dragonflame
2008-09-30, 01:43
If you dont know simple chem, and judging by the fact that you got it to boil over, I'd guess that it isnt that safe to take.
and well just about anything else you could tell me is highly appreciated cause i'm selling this stuff and i don't want to kill people, or myself, ya dig?
Buddy, I really don't think you understand.
Even with something easy like GHB, you could fuck it up and poison people if you don't know what you're doing. It is perfectly clear that you don't take safety seriously, and don't know what the fuck you're doing. You probably cut all kinds of corners. If you were taking it seriously, you would know all this stuff like the back of your hand before you even started. You're an unethical scumbag for even THINKING of selling this stuff to others if you're having to ask simple shit like this. I feel bad for your customers. Hope they aren't your friends.
I don't "dig" selling potentially dangerous homemade drugs to unsuspecting others.
spinal_cord
2008-09-30, 02:15
erowid>search>rhodium
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ZeppelinRules
2008-09-30, 02:18
http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/chemistry/chemistry/gaba2gbl.html
Kind of irrelevant, but seems like a good synth. I might try it some time.
we would have more if everyone didn't decide to just bring their questions here.
modball, going your way for sake of keeping this on topic [which is difficult in BLTC].
steel211
2008-09-30, 03:12
Buddy, I really don't think you understand.
Even with something easy like GHB, you could fuck it up and poison people if you don't know what you're doing. It is perfectly clear that you don't take safety seriously, and don't know what the fuck you're doing. You probably cut all kinds of corners. If you were taking it seriously, you would know all this stuff like the back of your hand before you even started. You're an unethical scumbag for even THINKING of selling this stuff to others if you're having to ask simple shit like this. I feel bad for your customers. Hope they aren't your friends.
I don't "dig" selling potentially dangerous homemade drugs to unsuspecting others.
shut up asshole that was the entire point of this thread, so that I don't poison and kill people.
the batch was thrown out and new ones will commence when i'm not so fucked up
so take the stick out of your ass and learn how to read i clearly stated i wanted no one to get hurt from the start
ya dig mother fucker?
stupid noob
2008-09-30, 03:30
He was agreeing with you. Peoples safety are involved, and you shouldn't have even started without being perfectly clear on every single aspect of it, BECAUSE PEOPLES SAFETY IS INVOLVED.
My answer to you is to do more research. I don't know what you know, and what you don't know, so for me to fill in the gaps of your education is impossible.
Do it right or don't do it at all.
steel211
2008-09-30, 19:16
Sorry all for any misunderstandings and I certainly am not jeopardizing anyones safety, I went a little overboard on pharm grade alprazolam and methylmethaquaalone and don't know why I decided to begin this reaction. I was not in the proper mind state to perform such task and that is why I ran into problems.
All is well now, and sorry for any worries or whatnot I may have caused. I've done the process in a sober head and it went great, everything is A O.K.
I didn't even use a scale last night that's how bad off I was..
Excuse me for my dumbass mistake in taking too many drugs and trying to do even the simplest of synths.
Also, thank you for trying to set me straight and attempting to have me teach myself the method. I appreciate all your help.
stupid noob
2008-09-30, 21:58
Sorry all for any misunderstandings and I certainly am not jeopardizing anyones safety, I went a little overboard on pharm grade alprazolam and methylmethaquaalone and don't know why I decided to begin this reaction. I was not in the proper mind state to perform such task and that is why I ran into problems.
All is well now, and sorry for any worries or whatnot I may have caused. I've done the process in a sober head and it went great, everything is A O.K.
I didn't even use a scale last night that's how bad off I was..
Excuse me for my dumbass mistake in taking too many drugs and trying to do even the simplest of synths.
Also, thank you for trying to set me straight and attempting to have me teach myself the method. I appreciate all your help.
No problem man. We are dicks because we care.