SO another guilt by association from McCain's personal mouthpiece Fox Noise...

P1: Acorn is responsible for financial crisis.
P2: Obama had contact with ACORN.

Conclusion: Obama is responsible for financial crisis.

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Even if you accept fully the first two premises (which are EASILY questioned) the conclusion is STILL incorrect.

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P1: Acorn is responsible for financial crisis.

The "logic" here and what I have seen on Fox, is that ACORN urged banks to give home loans to minorities. We all know they don't pay back their debts, right?

When all else fails, blame the non-whites. What a true American sentiment.

So, a small group like ACORN, influenced major banks enough to loan to a MINORITY of the population, and this MINORITY led to the housing crisis? If you believe that, please kill yourself.

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This whole business stinks of McCain's desperation.

Don't forget that Obama is "palling around with terrorists".

I have alot of conversations with idiots who believe in this guilt by association crap. Like if I were "palling around" with some guy at a gay bar someone might think I was gay. I wish I had been quick enough to ask what they would think if they saw a pastor go into the house of the meanest drunk in town. Guilt my ass.

Oh Noes Tell me it aint so Sara. Tell me it aint so.

"(Should be Ayers)" is my correction

Sunday, October 5, 2008
John McCain, The U.S. Council for World Freedom, the World Anti-Communist League, and Sun Myung Moon
This morning on Meet the Press, when the topic of the discussion was the attempts by the McCain campaign and the right's media to link Barack Obama to former Weather Underground member William Ayers, Democratic strategist Paul Begala noted that McCain has his own problem with consorting with extremists considering his membership of the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, an affiliate of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). Begala noted that the Anti=Defamation League has documented how the WACL (now known as the World League for Freedom and Democracy) “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”

That's putting it lightly. I did some research on the WACL for my Sun Myung Moon blog when I heard that Moon had been a major financial supporter of the League in the 1970's and 1980's. The definitive book on the League is Scott and Jon Lee Anderson's Inside the League: The Shocking Expose of How Terrorists, Nazis, and Latin American Death Squads Have Infiltrated the World Anti-Communist League. I used information culled from the book for my YouTube video "The World's Most Powerful Cult." What the book documents is shocking. The League has served as a resource for neo-Nazis (former chairman of the WACL was expelled when it was discovered that he been in various neo-Nazi organizations). The League did what it could to prop up undemocratic regimes and aided Salvadorian terrorist death squad leader Roberto D'Aubuisson whose nickname "Blowtorch Bob" was coined because of his favorite instrument of torture (quick aside: D'Aubuisson had also received support from figures beloved by "values voters": Jesse Helms and Jerry Falwell).

The big difference between Obama and McCain: Obama did some educational reform projects with Obama(Should be Ayers) decades after his Weather Underground activities. McCain was affiliated with the WACL at the time in which it was a nest of neo-Nazis and was openly supporting terrorist like D'Aubuisson. How come I didn't know about McCain's affiliation with the group until today?

http://realsunmyungmoon.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-mccain-us-council-for-world.html

I know he was a lawyer or other legal representative for one of their branches. I already knew that though. The Ayers thing doesn't really change my mind about Obama. I already knew how he felt about racism as he was pastored by Rev Wright for over 20 years. I'd like to see more information about McCain's ties to WACL and WACLs "racist" agendas though. I fuckin' hate racists as much as I hate socialism.

II already knew how he felt about racism as he was pastored by Rev Wright for over 20 years.

You do not know how Obama feels about anything BECAUSE of an association.

That is guilt by association.

I have alot of conversations with idiots who believe in this guilt by association crap. Like if I were "palling around" with some guy at a gay bar someone might think I was gay. I wish I had been quick enough to ask what they would think if they saw a pastor go into the house of the meanest drunk in town. Guilt my ass.

This makes you pretty gay dude.

This makes you pretty gay dude.

"pretty gay dude" are we in high school? So if you go to a normal dance club, you're automatically straight? I've known plenty of straight guys that go to gay bars with their gay friends. Sorry, but some people are normal and open-minded enough to hang out with their gay friends TOO, wow, what a stretch that not all people are bigots and disown their gay friends.

"XXXX by association" is legitimate, just as how it is a legitimate criminal charge if you are in the car while someone does a drive by shooting, even though you had absolutely no idea that it was gonna go down. Same thing, different concepts.

To KikoSanchez - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

To almightyares - But what if you met a guy while you were working for a community outreach program who committed a drive by shooting years ago and has since disowned violence? I mean, Logically you would be just as culpable in that decades-old drive by right? :rolleyes:

"XXXX by association" is legitimate, just as how it is a legitimate criminal charge if you are in the car while someone does a drive by shooting, even though you had absolutely no idea that it was gonna go down. Same thing, different concepts.

Criminal proceedings and public opinion are two very different things. Association is bullshit.

Criminal proceedings and public opinion are two very different things. Association is bullshit.

Exactly.

Just knowing a person who committed a drive by, does not make you culpable, even in criminal preceedings.

Besides, believing a small group like Acorn influenced MAJOR banks into giving loans to a minority of the population, which caused a national economic meltdown is a departure from reality.

Exactly.

Just knowing a person who committed a drive by, does not make you culpable, even in criminal preceedings.

Besides, believing a small group like Acorn influenced MAJOR banks into giving loans to a minority of the population, which caused a national economic meltdown is a departure from reality.

It's a lot more involved than that. Clinton encouraged it. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F9582 60) First black president, remember? And there's such thing as caucuses, they are like lobbyists but instead of using financial perks, they use politics. Black causes specifically were involved in these sort of "housing drives". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLFPjLaXPM)

Not departed from reality at all.

It's a lot more involved than that. Clinton encouraged it. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F9582 60) First black president, remember? And there's such thing as caucuses, they are like lobbyists but instead of using financial perks, they use politics. Black causes specifically were involved in these sort of "housing drives". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLFPjLaXPM)

Not departed from reality at all.

So what you are saying is that blacks are the reasons for white man's problems?

It's a lot more involved than that. Clinton encouraged it. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F9582 60) First black president, remember? And there's such thing as caucuses, they are like lobbyists but instead of using financial perks, they use politics. Black causes specifically were involved in these sort of "housing drives". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLFPjLaXPM)

Not departed from reality at all.

http://names.mongabay.com/ancestry/African_American.html

Black adults made up about 9% of the population in 2000. When the new dicentennial Census comes out in 2010, projections and history indicate the number will stay roughly the same.

Consider how many of that 9% got a mortgage: 1 in 10 black men was in jail in 2000. Consider that some were married, or living together, which reduces the number condidering you and your wife get ONE mortgage. Consider how many were on welfare, living in apartments, assisted living, unemployed, etc. basically just not getting a mortgage. Not sure EXACTLY what percentage that is, but it is certainly not the full 9%, my guess would be at least 6% probably less.

BUT, for the sake of the argument, let us assume that the entire 9% got mortgages and did not pay them back....you assert that this crashed the banking industry of the United States?

Considering that those upstanding white families who make up AT LEAST 80% of the remainder, were paying back their loans...b/c this is the niggers fault, right?

Riiiiiiiiiight, as I said, A DEPARTURE FROM REALITY, sir.

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Now, let's look at blaming Clinton and Acorn.

What laws did he pass forcing banks to make high risk loans? Anything? So, when you say Clinton and Acorn encouraged banks, you LITERALLY mean they just asked the Fanny to do so?

Great, banking industry is still at fault, someone's mother should have told them you don't have to jump off a bridge just b/c a person tells you to do it.

EVEN IF Clinton and Acorn passed legislation to FORCE the banks to do it.....

Bush administration should have fixed it. Should have caught it, realized what was going on, and fixed it. Bush has been president for 8 fucking years. At the end of an 8 year term as president you do not get to blame the previous administration.....ahem.....for a fucking thing.

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As if that is not enough..............we need to tie this horrible string of bullshit to the presidential candidate don't we?

Obama was with a group of lawyers who represented ACORN. Obama helped train some of the members of ACORN in community activism.

"Oh noes, he is closer to ACORN than he is with his terrorist buddy William Ayers. Don't vote for the darky, darkies are the problem, starting with that nigger lover Clinton."

No, no, you have a good argument. It doesn't seem like a last ditch effort to win this thing. This whole thing doesn't reek of racism and desperation on the part of the Republicans...

I am not stupid enough to buy into this horseshit. Short of unforseen brain damage, it will not be that stupid in the future.

http://names.mongabay.com/ancestry/African_American.html

Black adults made up about 9% of the population in 2000. When the new dicentennial Census comes out in 2010, projections and history indicate the number will stay roughly the same.

Consider how many of that 9% got a mortgage: 1 in 10 black men was in jail in 2000. Consider that some were married, or living together, which reduces the number condidering you and your wife get ONE mortgage. Consider how many were on welfare, living in apartments, assisted living, unemployed, etc. basically just not getting a mortgage. Not sure EXACTLY what percentage that is, but it is certainly not the full 9%, my guess would be at least 6% probably less.

BUT, for the sake of the argument, let us assume that the entire 9% got mortgages and did not pay them back....you assert that this crashed the banking industry of the United States?

Considering that those upstanding white families who make up AT LEAST 80% of the remainder, were paying back their loans...b/c this is the niggers fault, right?

Riiiiiiiiiight, as I said, A DEPARTURE FROM REALITY, sir.

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Now, let's look at blaming Clinton and Acorn.

What laws did he pass forcing banks to make high risk loans? Anything? So, when you say Clinton and Acorn encouraged banks, you LITERALLY mean they just asked the Fanny to do so?

Great, banking industry is still at fault, someone's mother should have told them you don't have to jump off a bridge just b/c a person tells you to do it.

EVEN IF Clinton and Acorn passed legislation to FORCE the banks to do it.....

Bush administration should have fixed it. Should have caught it, realized what was going on, and fixed it. Bush has been president for 8 fucking years. At the end of an 8 year term as president you do not get to blame the previous administration.....ahem.....for a fucking thing.

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As if that is not enough..............we need to tie this horrible string of bullshit to the presidential candidate don't we?

Obama was with a group of lawyers who represented ACORN. Obama helped train some of the members of ACORN in community activism.

"Oh noes, he is closer to ACORN than he is with his terrorist buddy William Ayers. Don't vote for the darky, darkies are the problem, starting with that nigger lover Clinton."

No, no, you have a good argument. It doesn't seem like a last ditch effort to win this thing. This whole thing doesn't reek of racism and desperation on the part of the Republicans...

I am not stupid enough to buy into this horseshit. Short of unforseen brain damage, it will not be that stupid in the future.

Blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and low-income whites (which are mostly Democrats).
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The government DID petition banks that were uncooperative. Especially under Carter and Clinton. Bush made no law that required us to go to Iraq.
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Racism?
The Obamas knows all about that. It's funny how it is racism when whites bring about racial issues but when blacks do it it is legitimate. If they are so obsessed with equality or annulment of race, why the fuck do they always bring it up?
Michelle Obama's Thesis (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html)
A first lady that doesn't see Americans, but blacks and whites. Wonderful.

Barack's speech "A More Perfect Union" (which was bullshit that it was aired). Within the first 30 seconds he talks about slavery.

Right now, race is not even one of my worries. I'm worried about being able to send my kids to college in the future and own a house. Since I'm not making $15k a year and have 6 kids, he doesn't give a fuck about me. He wants to redistribute wealth. "You did very well these past few years and make a good salary, so you can support the lazy fucks that fucked up their credit on novelties they couldn't afford." Fuck that noise. McCain/Palin '08. Here's to the silent majority. Godspeed.

Blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans and low-income whites (which are mostly Democrats)..

So Americans then? Glad you see things the correct way now.

The government DID petition banks that were uncooperative. Especially under Carter and Clinton.

So, Clinton and Acorn petitioned (formally asked) banks to cooperate?

Great, banking industry is still at fault, someone's mother should have told them you don't have to jump off a bridge just b/c a person tells you to do it.

Racism? Yes. Laying blame on the non-whites in this country for the financial crisis is racist. It is.

The entire isssue is just a tad bit more complicated than this racist shit.

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You seem to be unwilling to accept the fact that one of the MAIN reasons for this economic crisis is deregulation, which is a mainstay of free market republicans.

Also, if it is the low income minorities who are to blame, why do I keep hearing about predatory lenders? Predatory suggests prey doesn't it? Hmmm.

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I digress, the argument that minorities are to blame, is dead.

Right now, race is not even one of my worries. I'm worried about being able to send my kids to college in the future and own a house. Since I'm not making $15k a year and have 6 kids, he doesn't give a fuck about me. He wants to redistribute wealth. "You did very well these past few years and make a good salary, so you can support the lazy fucks that fucked up their credit on novelties they couldn't afford." Fuck that noise. McCain/Palin '08. Here's to the silent majority. Godspeed.

My parents made poverty line when I started state university. :rolleyes: Just because they are in college doesn't mean you gotta get them a $3k weekly allowance like all their other douchebag friends.

So basically you make over $250k (you ARE whining about Obama's tax policy...) and you are BAWWWing at not being able to send your children to college and that they can't get a house? You are an idiot. If my broke-ass parents scan send my broke ass to university, your rich white-bread self can surely do the same. Cry moar.

Besides, what you even read Obammy's higher education standpoint? http://www.barackobama.com/issues/education/#higher-education Both of those points sound like good ideas to me. I hate having to collect loads of forms to fill out the FAFSA, and a $4k tax credit on top of a $4k Pell grant (that I get already) is fucking sweet. I wouldn't even need to take out a loan if I had this program.

My parents made poverty line when I started state university. :rolleyes: Just because they are in college doesn't mean you gotta get them a $3k weekly allowance like all their other douchebag friends.

So basically you make over $250k (you ARE whining about Obama's tax policy...) and you are BAWWWing at not being able to send your children to college and that they can't get a house? You are an idiot. If my broke-ass parents scan send my broke ass to university, your rich white-bread self can surely do the same. Cry moar.

Besides, what you even read Obammy's higher education standpoint? http://www.barackobama.com/issues/education/#higher-education Both of those points sound like good ideas to me. I hate having to collect loads of forms to fill out the FAFSA, and a $4k tax credit on top of a $4k Pell grant (that I get already) is fucking sweet. I wouldn't even need to take out a loan if I had this program.

Not to mention congress is expected to turn 60% democrat so none of mccain's bullshit policies would pass anyways.

Now, let's look at blaming Clinton and Acorn.

What laws did he pass forcing banks to make high risk loans? Anything? So, when you say Clinton and Acorn encouraged banks, you LITERALLY mean they just asked the Fanny to do so?

Great, banking industry is still at fault, someone's mother should have told them you don't have to jump off a bridge just b/c a person tells you to do it.

I know it obviously wasn't passed by Clinton. but the way I see it, the Community Reinvestment act was a major cause of this. And that was passed by democrats trying to provide "affordable housing" to minorities.

To KikoSanchez - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

To almightyares - But what if you met a guy while you were working for a community outreach program who committed a drive by shooting years ago and has since disowned violence? I mean, Logically you would be just as culpable in that decades-old drive by right? :rolleyes:


Who gives a shit if he "disowned violence" after a drive by...thats just like the faggots who were saying that tookie williams shouldnt have been put to death because he "was totally against violence" and how he "wrote books against violence". Doesnt matter.



Criminal proceedings and public opinion are two very different things. Association is bullshit.


Public opinion? This has nothing to do with public opinion.

Public opinion? This has nothing to do with public opinion.

Are you high? Are you saying that the public's perception of Obama's ties, or lack thereof, if not public opinion?

I know it obviously wasn't passed by Clinton. but the way I see it, the Community Reinvestment act was a major cause of this. And that was passed by democrats trying to provide "affordable housing" to minorities.

Trying to provide affordable housing to minorities did not lead to economic meltdown. I know many angry rednecks will eat up this Fox Noise, as it is ALWAYS popular for the mentally weak to blame non-whites for everything.

The banks were NEVER forced to give people with shitty credit, loans. The banks did what they did out of greed. The home construction industry shot prices through the roof over the past 8 years out of greed. Wallstreet, and both parties in Washington went along for the ride. Bush admistration, Paulson, and McCain were all blissfully "unaware" of the consequences of such greed...

But let's blame the niggers.

Trying to provide affordable housing to minorities did not lead to economic meltdown. I know many angry rednecks will eat up this Fox Noise, as it is ALWAYS popular for the mentally weak to blame non-whites for everything.

The banks were NEVER forced to give people with shitty credit, loans. The banks did what they did out of greed. The home construction industry shot prices through the roof over the past 8 years out of greed. Wallstreet, and both parties in Washington went along for the ride. Bush admistration, Paulson, and McCain were all blissfully "unaware" of the consequences of such greed...

But let's blame the niggers.

I'm not saying that the Community reinvestment act caused this on its own, but it's absurd to say it didn't play a part. Under the CRA, banks were evaluated on whether or not they were meeting the credit needs of low income families. Except the guidelines of these evaluations were never released, under a democratic anti-business administration such as Carter's, of course they were going to FORCE banks to give low income families loans even if they couldn't pay them back.

This isn't racism, this is simple fact. But you can't see that, you just use every problem in this country as another excuse to blame Bush and the Republicans, and as a chance to ridicule "rednecks" and "fox noise." And what makes you think all low income families are niggers? I'm not blaming the non-whites. I'm blaming the government for forcing banks to give out loans to poor people, whether they were white, black, asian or whatever.

I'm not saying that the Community reinvestment act caused this on its own, but it's absurd to say it didn't play a part. Under the CRA, banks were evaluated on whether or not they were meeting the credit needs of low income families. Except the guidelines of these evaluations were never released, under a democratic anti-business administration such as Carter's, of course they were going to FORCE banks to give low income families loans even if they couldn't pay them back.

This isn't racism, this is simple fact. But you can't see that, you just use every problem in this country as another excuse to blame Bush and the Republicans, and as a chance to ridicule "rednecks" and "fox noise." And what makes you think all low income families are niggers? I'm not blaming the non-whites. I'm blaming the government for forcing banks to give out loans to poor people, whether they were white, black, asian or whatever.

It's not worth wasting your time on him. His skull is as thick as Obama's bullshit.

I'm not saying that the Community reinvestment act caused this on its own, but it's absurd to say it didn't play a part..

It is absurd to suggest it played a MAJOR role.

The Community Reinvestment act did NOT FORCE BANKS to give people who could not afford them, loans they could not pay back. It simply did not. It did not force banks to engage in predatory lending.

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EVEN if the Community act were somewhat responsible, it is still the Bush adminstration's fault for either not hiring someone competent enough to discover this, or by not seeing it themselves. I blame the Bush Admistration either through it's actions, or it's inaction. Either they helped this thing along, or were too ignorant to see it coming.

The bottom line is, an admistration CANNOT honestly blame the previous admistration for problems that occur at the tail end of an eight year term.

This isn't racism, this is simple fact.

You don't seem to be being racist. Sorry if I implied you were. I was suggesting that Fox News and the neo cons are being racist in asserting the economy is in the shape it is in, b/c banks were forced to give loans to minorities. This is the story they are running, there is a clear cut political reason to run it.

You have a more intelligent point than Nuclear Rape did, by leaving race out of it, but are still incorrect in attributing a major part of the blame to this community act.

Speak of the cunt.......
Broke handed my ass to me last page, I have yet to respond with anything intelligent or refuting, I think I will launch an ad hominem now.

Fixed.

Published: October 8, 2008

Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The NEW YORK TIMES.

The actions do not seem to be coordinated by one party or the other, nor do they appear to be the result of election officials intentionally breaking rules,
But are apparently the RESULTS OF of mistakes in the handling of the registrations and voter files as the STATES TRIED TO COMPLY with a 2002 FEDERAL LAW, intended to overhaul the way elections are run.

According to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately; as in the screening or trimming of VOTER registration lists in NINE states.....

This could result in PROBLEMS AT THE POLLS on Election Day: people who have been removed from the rolls are likely to show up only to be challenged by political party officials or election workers, resulting in confusion, long lines and heated tempers.......
Some states allow such voters to cast provisional ballots. But they are often not counted because they require added verification.

Although much attention this year has been focused on the millions of new voters being added to the rolls, there has been far less NOTICE given to the number of voters being DROPPED from those same rolls.

States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 and remove the names of voters who should no longer be listed; but for ONE voter ADDED added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have REMOVED TWO voters.

The six SWING states seem to be in violation of federal law.

MICHIGAN, and COLORADO (anti-abortion law also) areREMOVING voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election,

WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED EXCEPT when voters DIE, notify the authorities that they have moved OUT of state, or have been declared UNFIT to vote.

INDIANA, NEVADA, NORTH CAROLINA, and OHIO seem to be IMPROPERLY using Social Security data to verify registration applications for NEW voters.

IN ADDITION, THREE MORE states appear to be violating federal law
ALABAMA AND GEORGIA seem to be IMPROPERLY using Social Security information to screen registration applications from NEW voters.

LOUISIANA appears to have REMOVED thousands of voters AFTER the federal DEADLINE for taking such action.

Under federal law, election officials are supposed to use the Social Security database to check a registration application ONLY as a last resort, IF NO record of the applicant is found on state databases, like those for driver’s licenses or identification cards.
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SOMETHING IS HAPPENNING HERE !!!!!!

"pretty gay dude" are we in high school? So if you go to a normal dance club, you're automatically straight? I've known plenty of straight guys that go to gay bars with their gay friends. Sorry, but some people are normal and open-minded enough to hang out with their gay friends TOO, wow, what a stretch that not all people are bigots and disown their gay friends.

HAha you are blatantly gay.

No straight male would go to a gay bar. What the fuck?

How is not going to a gay bar disowning their gay friends? My friend wanted me to go to a party of his and I said no I'm alright. I am disowning him, right? I'm a bigot toward brown haired people? Idiot.

Only a homosexual would make an equation like that.


It isn't considered "cool" any more to tell people that they should be open minded like you are when you aren't open minded to them, dumbass. If you had an open mind, you wouldnt care about people who chose to not go to gay bars (because they aren't gay) or even out right homophobes.

Goddamn I can't believe the Republifags. If the naming of Palin as the VP pick hasn't proved to everyone that they are clutching at straws - than this smear campaign were seeing now certainly should. Bill Ayers? Palin brings him up every day now and there really is NO close connection and he in NO WAY played a part as a political role model for Obama or influenced his political ideals in any way. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html

ACORN caused the financial crisis right? Fucking retards. In the last 8 years nobody could 'force' Wall St. banks to do anything - they're the fucking Masters of the Universe remember? Volunteered regulation? The reason the banks were giving money to "them gard dang naggers" (as I can only imagine you fucking idiots speak and think in the vernacular of a crusty old souther porch-sitting lemonade-sipper) was NOT because ACORN (MIGHTY ACORN!!!) 'petitioned' them to, but because a no-risk atmosphere had developed where housing prices were seen to be rock solid and would ALWAYS give a return.

I can't believe that this fucking ridiculous new campaign of Ayers and ACORN adds - not to mention the whole debacle that is Sarah Palin's existence in any meaningful political position - can work, although on youtube there's enough vids of idiot Republicans spewing this garbage/eating up whatever Faux news tells them...

Also does it make anybody nervous that the Palin rallies of late have begun to sound an awful lot like the beer halls of the Weimar republic in the 1930's? "Kill him!" "Terrorist!" Shouldn't EVERYBODY (other than these ignorant hicks at the rally that is) be absolutely TERRIFIED of a Palin presidency? We've already seen what happens when a 'normal guy' gets into office (and HE went to Yale, not some fuckin' shit school like wherever Palin crawled out of) how can Anybody still support the Republicans after the last 8 years. It seems like most who do seem to be ACTIVELY trying to deceive themselves - by latching onto things like acorn, ayers, and how obama is a muslim..

Goddamn I can't believe the Republifags. If the naming of Palin as the VP pick hasn't proved to everyone that they are clutching at straws - than this smear campaign were seeing now certainly should. Bill Ayers? Palin brings him up every day now and there really is NO close connection and he in NO WAY played a part as a political role model for Obama or influenced his political ideals in any way. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html

ACORN caused the financial crisis right? Fucking retards. In the last 8 years nobody could 'force' Wall St. banks to do anything - they're the fucking Masters of the Universe remember? Volunteered regulation? The reason the banks were giving money to "them gard dang naggers" (as I can only imagine you fucking idiots speak and think in the vernacular of a crusty old souther porch-sitting lemonade-sipper) was NOT because ACORN (MIGHTY ACORN!!!) 'petitioned' them to, but because a no-risk atmosphere had developed where housing prices were seen to be rock solid and would ALWAYS give a return.

I can't believe that this fucking ridiculous new campaign of Ayers and ACORN adds - not to mention the whole debacle that is Sarah Palin's existence in any meaningful political position - can work, although on youtube there's enough vids of idiot Republicans spewing this garbage/eating up whatever Faux news tells them...

Also does it make anybody nervous that the Palin rallies of late have begun to sound an awful lot like the beer halls of the Weimar republic in the 1930's? "Kill him!" "Terrorist!" Shouldn't EVERYBODY (other than these ignorant hicks at the rally that is) be absolutely TERRIFIED of a Palin presidency? We've already seen what happens when a 'normal guy' gets into office (and HE went to Yale, not some fuckin' shit school like wherever Palin crawled out of) how can Anybody still support the Republicans after the last 8 years. It seems like most who do seem to be ACTIVELY trying to deceive themselves - by latching onto things like acorn, ayers, and how obama is a muslim..

This election has pretty much disassociated me with America. It's the first one where I'm old enough to vote and the first time I'm informed beyond media soundbites and those shitty roundtable discussions they have on morning shows. I don't even feel American anymore. The amount of douchebaggery and fakeness on both sides makes me connect only with online communities.

HAha you are blatantly gay.

No straight male would go to a gay bar. What the fuck?

How is not going to a gay bar disowning their gay friends? My friend wanted me to go to a party of his and I said no I'm alright. I am disowning him, right? I'm a bigot toward brown haired people? Idiot.


Assuming that a blonde haired person at a brown haired party is a brown haired person is guilt by association, which was your point with the straight person at a gay bar. Same fallacy.

ri Oct 10, 8:21 PM EDT

Who is running for president?

In an upstate New York county, hundreds of voters have been sent absentee ballots in which they could vote for Barack Osama.

The absentee ballots sent to voters in Rensselaer County identified the two presidential candidates as Barack Osama and John McCain.

In the United States, the best-known individual named Osama is Osama bin Laden, leader of the al Qaida terrorist group behind the 2001 attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center in New York City.

The typographical terror error was first reported by the Times Union of Albany.

The elections office faxed a statement in which the two commissioners, Democrat Edward McDonough and Republican Larry Bugbee, said they regret the error but never acknowledge what the error was.

It's human error, it is very unfortunate, it is an embarrassment to our office, obviously, McDonough said in a later phone interview. We wish we could turn back the clock, but we can not.

.oops

I might believe it if 's' and 'b' were next to each other....

They are not.

It's interesting how the Israelis view Obama. He receives much support
both from Jewish liberals and arguably the right-wing AIPAC, but his
middle name bothers Israelis a lot. Also, there are doubts whether he is
really a Muslim apostate. Here is an article which analyzes Obama's
similarity to early Zionists:
http://samsonblinded.org/blog/obama-against-jewishness.htm What do you think of the parallels?

It's interesting how the Israelis view Obama. He receives much support
both from Jewish liberals and arguably the right-wing AIPAC, but his
middle name bothers Israelis a lot. Also, there are doubts whether he is
really a Muslim apostate. Here is an article which analyzes Obama's
similarity to early Zionists:
http://samsonblinded.org/blog/obama-against-jewishness.htm What do you think of the parallels?

I think the assholes in Israel need to fuck off about American politics. The very first sentence tells me alot of where he is coming from by referring to him as "Hussein Obama". Waa waa waa Hussein Obama isn't going to blow us as hard as little boy Bush. :( :( :( Fucking kike bastards. Just like niggers they will whine and cry because not enough is in it for them. "Where my check at?" "Obama is going to scrutinize our ethnic cleansing of Israel and bombing of civilian targets!"

http://samsonblinded.org/blog/about In case you were wondering exactly what this guy is all about. Seems I was right.

Also, there are doubts whether he is
really a Muslim apostate.

He can't possibly be a Muslim apostate because he never was a Muslim to being with. If I had a dollar for ever moron who still thinks Obama is a Muslim...

Are you high? Are you saying that the public's perception of Obama's ties, or lack thereof, if not public opinion?

lol I laughed.