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I'm doing a project for school about the correlation between a child's political views and their parents. In researching this project I've become more interested in this topic. So I pose this question to all you totseans out there: Do your politics mirror those of your parents? What effect have your parents had on your views?
note: this is not a homework help thread, I'm still going to have to do a survey on this, but I'm interested in what totse's response would be.
My parents are moderate Democrats whereas I'm a radical left-libertarian. My parents have said that if it wasn't for the tax cuts for the wealthy they would vote Republican every time. I, on the other hand, cannot favor any party in the US political system because they all violate some essential tenet of my philosophy (though the Green Party comes close). I wouldn't say there's too much correlation--the only similarity is laughing at the Republicans during debates and speeches; I've radicalized them in a sense.
EDIT: I'm 17 and a junior in college.
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-10-06, 02:38
My parents are fairly right-wing, and I have leftist-libertarian leanings.
Years ago they had influence on my thinking and I was a neocon shill. Then I got introduced to the webbernets and now I am a baby raping librul. :)
I'm 21 and a junior in university.
Spiphel Rike
2008-10-06, 03:17
Mine are lefties in some respects.
I'm as much of a small government right winger as possible.
In the end a bit of critical thinking is going to decide what you believe in, and theirs didn't cut the mustard.
I'm 20, second year uni student.
These responses are typical among the youth and young adults but you should probably extend your data points to those a bit older than totse. They tend to correlate quite a bit more.
Well that was my idea, I'm going to distribute a survey to a group of middle school and high school aged kids and then one to a group of adults. I actually think that among the middle school aged kids, there will be a very strong correlation. Also I think these responses are only very common among totseans, since totseans tend to be more interested in politics. But among kids who aren't all that interested in politics I'm assuming their views will have a strong correlation with their parents.
While you're at it you should do the same with religion. Should be an interesting read.
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-10-06, 05:20
Perhaps we should add in our ages to help him our with different age and education groups?
Perhaps we should add in our ages to help him our with different age and education groups?
Done.
SkaterRaider
2008-10-06, 05:25
My parents are both very right wing conservatives. Luckily, they aren't fundamentalist Christians.
When I was a kid I was pr etty much a copy of them, until I started making more friends and talking to people with different views. Now I would say I'm fairly centered to liberal. I do agree with a lot of conservatives on some issues though.
Age 20
Junior at university
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-10-06, 05:38
EDIT: I'm 17 and a junior in college.
Wtf? What are you studying to be a junior at 17?
Wtf? What are you studying to be a junior at 17?
Well I graduated a year early from high school and my HS had a nice program where you could complete your AS while taking HS courses at the same time. It worked out nicely and now I'm doing chemistry with my Gen Eds behind me. :)
crazy hazy vermonter
2008-10-06, 06:48
mom is a compassionate liberal and father is a conservative pro war republican and neither are religious at all.
I'm a libertarian republican who wishes his party had rejected the socialist bailout. Oh well.
20 and college junior
Our family tends to keep personal political views to themselves, but from what I gather, my parents and most of my family tend toward the right-wing.
Myself, I can't really lay claim to one side or the other as I have views that match to both sides of the spectrum and an intense dislike for partisan and ideological politics. That probably stems from being off on the other side of the USA and relatively uninfluenced by my family's belief systems, and being free to develop my own. Age, 34.
KikoSanchez
2008-10-06, 07:11
My rents are fairly 'moderate', though I'd say they vote more Republican than Democrat. They started their life together in a small, southern town and saw A LOT of people abuse the welfare programs, so they became quite skeptical of them. Also, they are a bit religious, so they are against abortion and stem-cell research. I'd consider myself a liberal-libertarian. I am 24 and going back to get my Master's in a semester.
xilikeeggs0
2008-10-06, 07:45
My mother claims to be a "democrat, but I vote republican." She doesn't have any political views, she just listens to whatever her dad says and repeats/copies it. She says she's voting for Palin because "she's a single mother who has a teenager with issues." That should give you an idea about how much she follows politics.
I identify myself as a democrat (and I vote democrat as well), but I have some republican values. I'm very much for letting people do what they want (pro-choice, pro-gay marriage [or unions, whatever you want to call them]), but I'm somewhat anti-government handouts. I think that people should only be allowed to be on welfare/food stamps for a maximum of a year, then they get kicked off.
Mantikore
2008-10-06, 12:48
mom - very religiously conservative by choice. her mom was moderately religious and believed in traditional family values, her dad was close to a militant athiest. the thing that annoys my mom the most is things that break traditional family values, such as gay marriage. she is the 2nd oldest of 5 children, and the oldest sister. might i also add, her second youngest sibling is deeply anti religious and a full marxist
dad - came from a family that was moderately religious and had strong family values, and a little bit rubbed off onto my dad. though he is also quite materialistic and pretty much non religious, though he is not a against religion. however, growing up as a baby boomer, he has had anti communist sentiment hammered into his head and refused to believe that any form of socialism is good. might i also add he has a little race supremacy issues. he is the third oldest of 7 children and the second oldest brother.
there are 2 children in the household
older sister - left wing liberal, socialist, environmentalist, anti religious and anti american.
me - before totse, i would have been like my dad, but after discovering totse about 3 or 4 years ago, i am now a left leaning libertarian. non religious, but not against it either
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-10-06, 16:47
Well I graduated a year early from high school and my HS had a nice program where you could complete your AS while taking HS courses at the same time. It worked out nicely and now I'm doing chemistry with my Gen Eds behind me. :)
Gratz, that sounds pretty awesome.
Hare_Geist
2008-10-06, 17:54
From what I can gather from things that have been said over the years, my mum is incredulous toward the idea of any system other than capitalism being capable of functioning, but is for state regulation, health-care and free education. My father, on the other hand, has never expressed any political beliefs whatsoever, probably because he doesn't have the capacity.
As for myself, I agree with my mum that if capitalism is here to stay, then the proletariat should fight for health-care, free education and a regulated economy, as well as an up-to-date minimum wage. However, I differ from my mum in that I do not believe capitalism is necessary and I support communal ownership of the means of production. I guess you could say, then, that I am a socialist. Oh, and I'm 20, BTW.
Lewcifer
2008-10-06, 18:54
Libertarian socialist. Both 'rents are conservative, but the old man is further right (especially on immigration :)). Both are agnostic, as am I. I don't think their politics ever had a conscious bearing on mine, but maybe the agnosticism did. After all, apathy is contagious!
I'm 19 and in my 2nd year at uni.
Dichromate
2008-10-07, 00:15
One side of the family are conservative National party voters. That parent votes Liberals (conservative) or independent.
Other side of the family is more Labor learning, but my parent from that side votes Liberal.
My own views are somewhere between libertarianism and social liberalism. (small l liberal).
21, at university. 2nd year of my degree.
Gratz, that sounds pretty awesome.
Danke. Coincidentally, not 5 minutes ago I made a post about the consequences of those decisions:
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2163732
Post # 8.
and a full marxist
Damn. I'm only a quarter Marxist. :(
lan_rogers_book
2008-10-07, 11:54
Parents are pretty hard core liberals (both). I'm something of a contradiction of terms, I would vote republican from now until I died if you striped the fundamentalist values and replaced them with government control of public services (ie. utilities, public transport ect.)
As for religion my parents are pretty new age-y-ish while I am a man of science, but "no atheists in fox holes" right?
I'm 17 and soon to be a high school drop-out with plans for a GED
Ma:
- Democratic Sheep as in "I'm voting for this person because I'm a Democrat."
- An old, decrepit age of 65.
- 3rd world High School educated with some nursing schooling.
Pops:
- Doesn't give a crap about politics or religion. Feels he doesn't owe anyone anything having spent most of his life in the military, mostly is special forces.
- A deteriorating, balding age of 72.
- 3rd world High School education followed by Electrical Engineering provided by the US Navy.
Me:
- A realist. My political views are mostly libertarian, but small parts change as life does. I believe they must adapt with changing times to exploit windows of opportunity or to just not get left behind by the progression of others.
- 26, about to hit 27 soon.
- College graduate, double major.
Brother:
- A closeted, guilt filled liberal.
- Just turned 35.
- Masters from grade inflated Stanford.
Nagasaki911
2008-10-07, 18:00
my parents are fairly leftist, whereas I am pretty much the extreme right of the spectrum
my parents are fairly leftist, whereas I am pretty much the extreme right of the spectrum
By right do you mean Coulter or Friedman? Economic right? Political right? Social right? Be specific! :mad:
By right do you mean Coulter or Friedman? Economic right? Political right? Social right? Be specific! :mad:
As right as one can be living in San Francisco.
As right as one can be living in San Francisco.
As right as one wants to be?
ChickenOfDoom
2008-10-08, 06:41
My parents are pretty standard Democrats. Politics are very black and white to them; all republicans are evil, politicians in the democratic party essentially can do no wrong, with the exception that my dad thinks Johnson was a bad president for getting us into Vietnam.
I'm basically a social libertarian; I disagree with them on guns, video game censorship, zoning laws, drugs, etc. but mostly agree with them on abortion, gay rights, privacy/civil liberties and the like.
On government spending, I agree with them on everything infrastructure related but stuff like the bailout and general federal funding for random stuff, they don't really mind while it pisses me off.
Views on corporate regulation, foreign policy are all also pretty similar with the difference that I don't think we should go farther than getting out of Iraq and not be doing anything in other countries at all. Overall basically similar views though.
I'm 19 and a junior in college.
Dichromate
2008-10-08, 11:01
As right as one can be living in San Francisco.
"Oh shit you voted for Arnold? I mean I know he's cool, but he *is* a republican."
AMIRITE?
but on a marginally less joking note, how do you think "as right as one can be living in Berkley" would be?
but on a marginally less joking note, how do you think "as right as one can be living in Berkley" would be?
I really hate Berkeley. Stereotypes about San Francisco are true, but its not like the people out there act out all of those stereotypes intentionally. Berkeley, however, purposely tries to live up to its own stereotypes. It probably doesn't help that most of my coworkers are UC Berkeley Alumni. I have to listen to crap about Berkeley every work day, which gets annoying. For example,
Me: "Do you know if there is any Indian restaurants around here?"
Them: "Oh, I don't know, but there is this great place in Berkeley that has... blah blah blah. You like Indian food?"
Me: "Well I prefer Persian food, but its pretty hard to find."
Them: "Yeah, I've never seen a Persian restaurant before. But I bet Berkeley has one because Berkeley has everything."
Me: "I'm sure it does."
Them: "Oh you wouldn't believe... like Berkeley has this... has that... blah blah blah."
Its not just one person that does this. Its like every single shit head that either has lived in Berkeley or went to school there. Like Berkeley somehow infects people to spread stories of its shittiness to everyone they come in contact with. I just pray I don't go postal one day.
Lewcifer
2008-10-08, 13:45
I just pray I don't go postal one day.
If you do, do it Berkley. I hear it has all the best schools to shoot up!
My father doesn't believe in the government at all. They're just gonna fuck you over either way.
I'm not sure what's my mom's party affiliation, however, a lot of her values are conservative.
My sister doesn't pay attention to politics, therefore is unaffiliated. She won't even bother to vote because she is not informed.
As for me, I'm moderate-liberal. 17, first year university.
If you do, do it Berkley. I hear it has all the best schools to shoot up!
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The actions do not seem to be coordinated by one party or the other, nor do they appear to be the result of election officials intentionally breaking rules,
But are apparently the RESULTS OF of mistakes in the handling of the registrations and voter files as the STATES TRIED TO COMPLY with a 2002 FEDERAL LAW, intended to overhaul the way elections are run.
According to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately; as in the screening or trimming of VOTER registration lists in NINE states.....
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Some states allow such voters to cast provisional ballots. But they are often not counted because they require added verification.
Although much attention this year has been focused on the millions of new voters being added to the rolls, there has been far less NOTICE given to the number of voters being DROPPED from those same rolls.
States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 and remove the names of voters who should no longer be listed; but for ONE voter ADDED added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have REMOVED TWO voters.
The six SWING states seem to be in violation of federal law.
MICHIGAN, and COLORADO (anti-abortion law also) areREMOVING voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election,
WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED EXCEPT when voters DIE, notify the authorities that they have moved OUT of state, or have been declared UNFIT to vote.
INDIANA, NEVADA, NORTH CAROLINA, and OHIO seem to be IMPROPERLY using Social Security data to verify registration applications for NEW voters.
IN ADDITION, THREE MORE states appear to be violating federal law
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LOUISIANA appears to have REMOVED thousands of voters AFTER the federal DEADLINE for taking such action.
Under federal law, election officials are supposed to use the Social Security database to check a registration application ONLY as a last resort, IF NO record of the applicant is found on state databases, like those for driver’s licenses or identification cards.
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reggie_love
2008-10-12, 08:07
EDIT: I'm 17 and a junior in college.
H....
How?
H....
How?
Because he got his shit together. My brother started college at 16. It happens.
H....
How?
Read the thread.
I'm a moderate (politically, socially, economically). I really don't like either of the candidates. One is going to spend money like there is no tomorrow, and the other wants to continue an outdated and ineffective foreign policy.
My parents are Republicans, but they have some issues with voting for McCain (abortion, iraq). I think I am affected just a little by them. My upbringing in a very liberal community has probably pulled me into the middle.
I'm 17, a senior in highschool.
ZeroMalarki
2008-10-13, 10:59
My parents are fairly pragmatic when it comes to voting. They're reasonably liberal, as am I.
MR.Kitty55
2008-10-15, 20:30
EDIT: I'm 17 and a junior in college.
How and where???
Oh and I suppose my politics are in perpetual change but my mother is a gender studies and politics professer and votes democratic with liberal ideals, my dad is just liberal...I'll just go with radical leftist right now because I don't honestly identity with one party
How
Read the thread. Though technically I'll be there for another 3.5 years I have junior standing.
and where???
The University of Utah
MR.Kitty55
2008-10-16, 00:43
Read the thread. Though technically I'll be there for another 3.5 years I have junior standing.
The University of Utah
Ah good deal. I actually have one of my best friends at Utah (freshman), he's coincidentally paying for college mostly on his own as well. I'm impressed, I always took you to be older than me (I'm 18), what made you pick Utah?
BindTortureKill
2008-10-16, 01:39
I am 21, my parents are in their 50s. They are both unaffiliated and are basically moderates. Neither of them want McCain to be president but they are both afraid of what will happen if Obama is elected. They are both against the war in Iraq but they fear that Obama will make taxes way too high. I on the other hand am a Libertarian. I will be voting for Obama though, because I know Bob Barr won't get elected and I just can't stand McCain.
Dichromate
2008-10-16, 02:18
I am 21, my parents are in their 50s. They are both unaffiliated and are basically moderates. Neither of them want McCain to be president but they are both afraid of what will happen if Obama is elected. They are both against the war in Iraq but they fear that Obama will make taxes way too high. I on the other hand am a Libertarian. I will be voting for Obama though, because I know Bob Barr won't get elected and I just can't stand McCain.
I love your screen name.
Mr. Dazed and Confused
2008-10-16, 06:35
My parents are center-right, but they're more fiscal conservatives than right wing christian conservatives. My parents dislike Bush because his spending is out of control, the fact that my dad lost close to $150,000 in retirement funds because of the economy, and his foreign policy. They're registered Republicans, but they've voted for Democrat and Independent candidates for president, governor, and state and U.S senate. They're Catholic, but they don't believe the government should control gay marriage and abortion. They're basically okay with gay marriage as long as they don't get married in a church. They believe pretty strongly in the seperation of Church and State.
I have similiar economic principles as my parents, but I might be a little more liberal when it comes to social issues. Mainly immigration and marijuana prohibition. We both believe in a free market, but CEO's need to be more accountable for their actions than they are now. My parents and I are both against gun control as well.
BTW, I'm a 19 year old undergraduate political science major. My dad is 50 and my mom is 46. My parents are still undecided, but I already wrote in Ron Paul on my absentee ballot (I don't really support him, I just couldn't get myself to vote to McCain or Obama, plus Bob Barr is a joke.). I have a feeling my mom will vote for McCain, but my dad doesn't like either candidate. The main reason why I voted was because of the state and U.S senate race and because of state/local issues.
Ah good deal. I actually have one of my best friends at Utah (freshman), he's coincidentally paying for college mostly on his own as well. I'm impressed, I always took you to be older than me (I'm 18), what made you pick Utah?
Is it because I know mah philosophy? :cool: I get in-state tuition in Utah along with a full-tuition institutional scholarship and an extra $1,000 in scholarship money from the state as well as another 31.25% of my tuition paid by the state. I linked to a thread where I talked about each one earlier in here. I'm the first person in my family to go to an American university so I didn't really know that you were supposed to study your ass off for the SATs or apply to several different colleges. I just applied to the U (that's what we call it here) because it was a state school and I thought that was the norm. :confused: But now I get things like http://i37.tinypic.com/33o2yxt.jpg in the mail and wish I had applied to more places. I probably would have stayed in Utah anyway because I get $2,000 checks from the state every semester. Oh, and the U was probably the best choice for a science major in the Mountain West.
You're in Ohio State, right? What made you go there?
I'm the first person in my family to go to an American university so I didn't really know that you were supposed to study your ass off for the SATs or apply to several different colleges.
Are your parents from another country or did your family just decide to study abroad?
Are your parents from another country or did your family just decide to study abroad?
They're from another country, as am I.
MR.Kitty55
2008-10-18, 18:54
You're in Ohio State, right? What made you go there?
Denison University
Combination of good philosophy program and D3 lacrosse team (I probably make up a 1/3 of totse's college athletes). Small classes > large classes, there are only 2100 kids here.
Denison University
Combination of good philosophy program and D3 lacrosse team (I probably make up a 1/3 of totse's college athletes). Small classes > large classes, there are only 2100 kids here.
Nice job. I hate small classes mostly because I hate participation; though I suppose it would be different in the humanities. How much are you paying for that?
MR.Kitty55
2008-10-18, 23:14
Nice job. I hate small classes mostly because I hate participation; though I suppose it would be different in the humanities. How much are you paying for that?
Yeah humanities classes generally just ask for your opinion on the topic which I enjoy expressing. Its like totse without all the dumb comments..
The tuition is absurd but b.c. of lacrosse/merit scholarship with financial aid its actually cheaper for me to go here than it is for my sister to go to University of Virginia in state, money is given out here like its nothing because the school has a massive endowment. The kid across the hall from me got into Washington University in St. Louis but came here because its literally free with all the money he got
BindTortureKill
2008-10-19, 03:29
I love your screen name.
Thanks!