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fretbuzz
2008-10-11, 19:48
Now it's coming back to bite him in the ass. By choosing her he acknowledged that he would either certainly win, or fail epicly. It seems the latter is correct. She's too much of an idiot to take her seriously and Hilary supporters back Obama after she endorsed him. Now McCain tends to find himself "clarifying" Palin on what she "really" meant.

Three cheers for stupid, powerhungry, evangelical cunts!!! America, Obama will be your next president.

anon99989
2008-10-12, 07:08
Palin is probably the smartest move McCain made; she really brought alot of the right wingers to McCain.

They love her. They eat up her bullshit and folksy "charm."

And it makes perfect sense, Bush was able to sell his common man, antielitist, ignorant attitude. McCain has some of the same strategists as Bush, they picked someone who could be the character replacement for Bush.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Obama lost. Hell, this is the country where Bush can receive nearly half of the votes in spite of his miserable failures.

Lb13
2008-10-12, 07:30
America, Obama will be your next president.

this we know.

Abnormal987
2008-10-12, 16:59
I really can't tell. It clearly looks like Obama should win. In all the weak red states McCain on average has about +1% or 2% lead while in weak blue states Obama has around +5% leads. He has a lot more ground covered, but in the end this is all theoretical. The government can definitely pull some shit at any time. My biggest fear is the white populations fear of a black president. When it comes down to also, Obama has a big young vote, and black vote. Alot of young people and a lot of black people just don't vote. I'm scared. If Obama doesn't going to win, well, I'm going to be a little more scared.

BrokeProphet
2008-10-12, 20:31
Palin is probably the smartest move McCain made; she really brought alot of the right wingers to McCain.

As someone who wants Obama to win, I think picking Palin was an awesome desicion for McCain.

Palin is a living breathing case of John's bad judgment.

anon99989
2008-10-13, 06:46
As someone who wants Obama to win, I think picking Palin was an awesome desicion for McCain.

Palin is a living breathing case of John's bad judgment.

I disagree, she has really galvanized the conservative base, something that McCain couldn't do. It's the best judgment call he made.

BrokeProphet
2008-10-13, 20:43
I disagree, she has really galvanized the conservative base, something that McCain couldn't do. It's the best judgment call he made.

Are you suggesting the conservative base was going to vote for Obama prior to Palin?

Bull-fucking-shit.

The base would vote McCain over Obama. She brought NOTHING positive to the table. She may energize or galvanize those who would have voted for McCain. Means she is a wasted pick.

What Palin HAS DONE that is postive for Obama is shove swing votes his way, by being a complete moron on camera.

anon99989
2008-10-13, 22:22
Are you suggesting the conservative base was going to vote for Obama prior to Palin?

Bull-fucking-shit.

The base would vote McCain over Obama. She brought NOTHING positive to the table. She may energize or galvanize those who would have voted for McCain. Means she is a wasted pick.

What Palin HAS DONE that is postive for Obama is shove swing votes his way, by being a complete moron on camera.

It's not bullshit at all. Bush managed to constantly be an idiot on camera, and look how things worked out for him. People seem to dig this fake "common" person touch because the majority of voters are idiots.

She also managed to bring many who wouldn't have voted at all due to displeasure with the candidates or would have voted third party. Also, quite a few who were going to vote for Clinton have switched to McCain and Palin only helped that. I saw a poll recently that showed that Obama was trailing McCain among white women, a group from which the democrats usually get a majority of the vote.

So in the end, a good choice for McCain to get votes. A bad choice for the country if McCain wins.

SWATFAG
2008-10-13, 23:50
It's not bullshit at all. Bush managed to constantly be an idiot on camera, and look how things worked out for him. People seem to dig this fake "common" person touch because the majority of voters are idiots.

She also managed to bring many who wouldn't have voted at all due to displeasure with the candidates or would have voted third party. Also, quite a few who were going to vote for Clinton have switched to McCain and Palin only helped that. I saw a poll recently that showed that Obama was trailing McCain among white women, a group from which the democrats usually get a majority of the vote.

So in the end, a good choice for McCain to get votes. A bad choice for the country if McCain wins.

Choosing Palin was a big mistake. You can't seriously think that Clinton supporters are switching to McCain. Even life long Republicans like Paul Laxalt's daughter and William Buckley's son and Gold water's daughters (edit~ Corrected it should be Goldwater's grand-daughter) are expressing their plan to vote for Obama.

Laxalt's daughter on Larry King

KING: Michelle, are you not supporting the ticket?

LAXALT: Look, I think -- I can't believe the tone of this conversation. Here we are, three conservative, loyal Republican women. And we are talking about a female who could be the vice president of the United States of America.

In my estimation, she is being used unfairly as a tool by a team who, by the way, do not even support, nor does their candidate, equal pay for women for equal work. So if she is going to be the traditional vice presidential attack dog -- which I concur with Bay, that's very much a traditional role -- why didn't her male running mate, i.e. the candidate himself, man up and speak to those issues, calling his opponent essentially unpatriotic, calling him a terrorist?

I'm sorry. This is not the Republican Party that Bill Buckley, that Paul Laxalt, that Ronald Reagan raised me on. And I don't believe the American people like this kind of dirty politics. If they can't win fair and square, they shouldn't trash the other guy.

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/larry-king-live-republican-women-impl

anon99989
2008-10-14, 03:11
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/26/dems.switch.poll/index.html

SWATFAG
2008-10-14, 04:59
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/26/dems.switch.poll/index.html

McCain didn't pick Palin until August 29 - 5 months after the date of that article.

freeRadical
2008-10-14, 05:07
All this is moot. Obama doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at winning. And, if by some miracle he manages to pull a win out of his ass, he'll be shot before the end of the first month of his presidency.

McCain
Palin
FTW!!!!!

ArmsMerchant
2008-10-14, 18:40
I disagree, she has really galvanized the conservative base, something that McCain couldn't do. It's the best judgment call he made.


Incorrect. She has alienated all the intelligent conservatives--including George Will.

In a few weeks, Wrinkly and Winky wil be history--and Winky will have lost all her political goodwill among the voters in Alaska, due to her arrant lies and new-found sleaze.

cosmo
2008-10-15, 02:27
I disagree, she has really galvanized the conservative base, something that McCain couldn't do. It's the best judgment call he made.

The only people she "galvanized" (read: whipped into a hostile paranoid frenzy) are the kind of people who actually believe that Obama is an Arab, a Muslim, and/or some kind of undercover agent for a terrorist sleeper cell that has managed to infiltrate the Democratic party and become its nominee. In other words she managed to win the favor of xenophobic racists, ultra-conservative psuedo-puritanical Christians, paranoid conspiracy freaks, militant gun nuts, and other moronic fringe voters (e.g. the kind of people who attend her rallies and shout "terrorist", "treason", and "kill him"). Even most mainstream Republican voters can see right through her pretty face into the ideologically empty brain.

But like others have already said, it was a desperate gamble that was deemed worth the risk, but which is not paying off.

Mr. Dazed and Confused
2008-10-16, 06:48
The only group that relates to Palin are probably all the people that voted for Huckabee during the primaries. There are a lot of fiscal conservatives that jumped ship because of her and she doesn't really appeal to moderates. I'm concerned with McCain's age so the VP candidate is more important to me than in other elections. If she became president I would shit my pants.

pink smoke
2008-10-16, 16:06
Watch and learn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

I love how the arguments these people offer are not only inaccurate, but incredibly biased and racist.

"I don't like the fact that he thinks us white people are trash. Because we're not."

Yeah, that whole town is full of bastards.
Let's all say that the black guy is racist, because here in Deliverance Land we would never judge someone by the color of their skin or their religion.

It must have been too hot that day to wear their white robes.

So, so sad.