View Full Version : Can McCain man up?
BrokeProphet
2008-10-14, 01:43
Next debate, does McCain man up and say to Obama the horseshit him and Palin have been flinging about Ayers, and ACORN?
I think just to squash this kind of accusation, he will briefly mention it, but if McCain HONESTLY thinks Obama has a close relationship with terrorists, why is he only really speaking about when he is behind in the polls and very desperate?
McCain probably thought he had more honor than this. I however, was not this deluded. And Palin does what she is told, like the beauty queen robot she is.
So....does McCain mention his dishonorable and desperate flimsy accusations in the debate, or does he show everyone what a liar and coward he is by not saying it to the man's face?
McCain will not accuse Obama of anything during the next debate because he always says that he is going to run a campaign that is not negative. At his campaign rally McCain angered his own supporters by saying that they should not be fearful of Obama. His campaign however through ads and volunteers accuses obama of relations to terrorists. Whenever McCain is confronted by these he just denounces them and says they are wrong.
This is a very short video. Just a few seconds. But watch it and you will see that it is not possible for McCain to man up. Impossible.
http://vodpod.com/pod/video/1662535
How is that manly at all? The guilt-by-association crap the parties have been throwing back and forth at each other is nothing but an insult to our country, and justifying it by bringing it into actual debates would be asinine.
It's obvious he doesn't really believe any of that shit, and that it's just more of the same ole, same ole.
McCain's already gotten a first-hand lesson in what happens when you play those kind of bullshit games, and hopefully he'll take something from it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081010/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_angry_crowds
Oh yes, he should MAN up. This means knocking off the bullshit, pulling his VP and supporters into line with an apology to Obama, and basically showing some fucking leadership skills.
That's real honor.
Lmao. You're treating politics like it's a fucking TV show.
What they stand for should be clear by now ffs, your media has been going on about it for the last year or so.
He kind of has to bring it up in some way otherwise he'll look like a conniving hypocrite who cannot confront an opponent about his record to his face. If he doesn't it will suggest that McCain doesn't really believe what his own running mate and campaign have been so vehemently asserting for so long, thus alienating the very people who find these allegations to be credible reasons to vote for him. Of course, if he does bring it up he'll inevitably just regurgitate whatever damage control spin his aides have cooked up and attempt to play down the whole thing as much as possible. I don't think McCain himself is entirely comfortable with all of this inflammatory rhetoric spouted by his aides and running mate, but at the same time I think this ultimately shows how he doesn't really have control over his own campaign and how its being conducted. Unfortunately for McCain, I think that he just let dirty politics get the best of him and now he's paying the price for his fundamental lack of political and ideological direction.
fretbuzz
2008-10-15, 02:49
;10566509']At his campaign rally McCain angered his own supporters by saying that they should not be fearful of Obama.
Yeah, and some fat lady told McCain she was scared of Obama because he's Arab. It really just goes to show what sort of people back John McCain.
BrokeProphet
2008-10-16, 20:28
He kind of has to bring it up in some way otherwise he'll look like a conniving hypocrite who cannot confront an opponent about his record to his face.
^this.
How is that manly at all? The guilt-by-association crap the parties have been throwing back and forth at each other is nothing but an insult to our country, and justifying it by bringing it into actual debates would be asinine.
qfmft
anyway, if you happened to see the debate, mccain brought it up in passing but didn't really make that huge a deal about. i don't really remember it and i'm too lazy to look it up, but you guys can find it if you really want to.
but if you look at it, the past oh... seven elections have all been kind of run on this tilt of building up your own side by demonizing your opponent (and if you look at a lot of politics of the past thirty some years you see it reflected there as well). but now obama has found a way to keep the focus off of ad hominum attacks and put it on the issues. somebody called it the political rope-a-dope, and those are pretty much the best words for it. because he is such a (supposidly) "far left" democrat, you know that the strategists back at the RNC were chomping at the bit to paint obama as this willie horton type black radical communist flash in the pan, but they can't because they no longer have a monopoly on "morality" and would end up looking like they were playing dirty and ignoring the real issue (the problem is obama is so slick like this he gets out of some questions that he should be answering, but thats another issue entirely), and obama would end up looking less petty and more "fit to lead," something mccain can't afford. in the end i'm actually kind of glad obama has an angry black minister and ties to the weather underground, its not like everyone at lockheed martin and the carlyle group are any less a group of sociopaths.
From the OP:
So....does McCain mention his dishonorable and desperate flimsy accusations in the debate, or does he show everyone what a liar and coward he is by not saying it to the man's face?
Looks like the latter.
I figured a war hero would be less of a coward.
Well he did bring up William Ayers and ACORN.
BrokeProphet
2008-10-17, 01:23
;10575778']Well he did bring up William Ayers and ACORN.
yeah thats why I deleted it. I am watching the debate right now, and when he had the first oppurtunity to bring it up he did not. I assumed incorrectly.
McCain is still rather pathetic.