Lesner is still unproven at this point. He had a good victory over Heath, but that's not enough for me to bet against Randy Couture, despite Lesner having advantages as far as youth, strength and speed are concerned. Still, he is young and has all the tools. It'll be interesting.

What are your thoughts?

I'm going to pick Couture by decision.
I don't think either one of them is going to submit the other and I see Couture maybe keeping the fight on their feet a bit and scoring points there.
That or Lesnar drops him in one punch and ground and pounds him the whole time. Who the hell knows.

It'll be interesting. I don't know if randy would be fast enough, lesnar seems freakishly fast. But couture can adapt pretty well.

I can see Randy turning it into a stand up match with some smart kicking like he did against Tim Sylvia. I strongly believe Lesnar won't be able to out-box Randy. If I were Randy, that would be my strategy.

Randy should also be practicing his submissions, especially the triangle choke, just in case Lesnar uses his power and wrestling ability to get Randy on his back (which will be hard considering Randy is an excellent wrestler himself).

Couture for sure. I know hes going to be ready For Brock Lesnars incredible 265 pound strength.

I can see Randy turning it into a stand up match with some smart kicking like he did against Tim Sylvia. I strongly believe Lesnar won't be able to out-box Randy. If I were Randy, that would be my strategy.

Randy should also be practicing his submissions, especially the triangle choke, just in case Lesnar uses his power and wrestling ability to get Randy on his back (which will be hard considering Randy is an excellent wrestler himself).

I have sneaking suspicion Randy will get slammed real hard if he locks a triangle.

He's looking really light from his latest training pictures. I have to say I'd like to see Brock do well. He could have a bright career ahead of him.

I have to say I'd like to see Brock do well. He could have a bright career ahead of him.

Why? He's an absolute classless cunt, and there is no way he deserves a title shot for losing to a wash up and then beating a gate-keeper who put in one of the worst performances of his life.

That said Randy is tiny compared to Brock so he will most likely struggle especially as he hasnt fought in well over a year. Still I think Randy will either take a decision utilising his dirty boxing or slap a submission on the inexperienced Lesnar.

Why? He's an absolute classless cunt, and there is no way he deserves a title shot for losing to a wash up and then beating a gate-keeper who put in one of the worst performances of his life.

Watch some of his training videos, or some of his interviews. He's very confident, but I wouldn't say classless. He mauled Herring and made a point by controlling him for the whole fight. Mir is scheduled to fight Nog, he's not exactly a washed up fighter or they wouldn't consider that.

Why do you consider him classless?

Because of the pantomime performance he put on in the closing seconds of his match against Heath and his interviews, not to mention the stories of his diva performances in NFL training sessions which led to his failed career. Lesnar treats the UFC like its the WWE, he has no humility and no class.
He did dominate Heath but he could have finished the fight countless times and failed to do so showing he is an inexperienced fighter.
As for Mir, just look at his record since his crash, he lost to Vera for fucks sake. Just because someone is given a title shot it doesn't mean they deserve it, Mir was given it because he was picked for the Ultimate Fighter - who do you propose could have been the other coach? It was a result of a weak division and his nationality. The worst thing about the title shots is that Mir was granted one on the basis of his TUF role and his victory over Brock, who as I said does not deserve to be considered a top fighter, whilst Brock is given one as well for losing to the guy who doesn't really deserve a shot in the first place.
Werdum should have been granted a shot over both of these guys but thats academic now as he recently lost that upset to Dos Santos.
They should have at least made Brock fight one more guy before giving him the fight against Randy, I would have liked to see him fight Gonzaga but in all probability he would have had his arse-handed to him and that would mess up Dana's cash-cow PPV plans.
Admittedly the main problem is the weakness of the Heavyweight division but the fact remains that Brock has done little to earn a title-shot and Mir is vastly over rated.

That's life. Even been Chinese cut in a line? Ever been cut off in traffic? Fact is, if you're not cutting to the front, people are cutting in front of you. Brock used his fame to cut to the front. Everyone else might complain, but they're still in the back, where down the road, nobody is going to give a damn. Werdum should have raised more of a ruckus.

Jesus guys.

Herring has been well documented for him, and his camp being total asses to people, and the same happened here. Nobody is giving Brock a chance because of his WWE days and the fact he is new. It's no wonder he's being abrasive. He also doesn't choose the fights. He's a big draw and will pull in money, they obviously think he's got something so they put him in the big fights. They draw in the big money.

Overeem is toal ass, see him in his cro cop match up? Exactly. But he was never a huge WWE start or a newcomer so he doesn't get the bombing Brock does.

Brock will improve over time and be a top grade fighter if he sticks at it. Some people just need to get over this fact. He has some great tools and natural abilities and it'd be awesome to see them develop OR if he can develop them.

WIll he win against Couture? Who knows, He'll either steamroll it to a comfortable and east win, or Couture will shock us all again and have it in the bag. There's no middle ground here. One of them is going to steamroll the fight. It's just a question of who.

Jesus guys.

Herring has been well documented for him, and his camp being total asses to people, and the same happened here. Nobody is giving Brock a chance because of his WWE days and the fact he is new. It's no wonder he's being abrasive. He also doesn't choose the fights.


This is absolutely no excuse, there's almost ALWAYS smack talk in the build-up to the event, most of the time its encouraged by the UFC to hype up the fights. But what also happens is that once the fight is over respect is shown by both parties, Brock decided to pretend to ride Heath Herring like a horse and then gave one of the most absurdly arrogant post fight interviews I've ever seen. He's a classless cunt and there's no excuse for his actions.
And yes the fact that he is new does make it worse, this was his first win the UFC and he thinks that justifies his disrespect towards a veteran.


He's a big draw and will pull in money, they obviously think he's got something so they put him in the big fights. They draw in the big money.

Yeah that's why Kimbo Slice is widely recognized as one of the top ten heavyweights of all time. You seem to be confusing ability to draw viewers with talent.

Its simply too early to say he will be a success (although that hasn't stopped you or lots of fan boys who followed him other from that pantomime they call wrestling from saying it) Yes he is big, so was Bob Sapp, so is Hong-Man Choi (and in my book the latter has more ability than Lesnar) that doesn't make a great fighter, it gives an advantage, an advantage which counts for nothing when the fighter in question gets sub'd as easily as Brock did in his UFC debut. Even If he manages to beat Randy by lay and pray there is no fucking way he will beat Nog.

Couture's gonna beat the fuckin shit outta brock.
Brock sucks!

Couture v.s. nog... now that is good shitz.

Prediction:

-Lesnar will come in looking for the big takedown. Couture will avoid and strike. Couture has said that he thinks he could control Lesnar on the ground. Eventually they will clinch up and both will end up on the ground. On the ground it could go either way depending on variables such as who ends up on his back. Look for Couture to have trouble controlling Lesnar, and Lesnar to have trouble hurting Couture.

-Couture will get tired of the grappling and will stay standing. He will frustrate Lesnar using his kickboxing skills ala Couture vs Sylvia. They may end up in the greco-roman clinch, in which case Randy will utilize his dirty boxing and Lesnar will have trouble because he's a freestyle wrestler while Randy is a greco-roman. Randy will avoid all takedown attempts. Continue for 5 rounds.

-Victory Couture

-Unanimous Decision

i absolutely hate to say it but i think lesnar will win because hes freakish. i hate him, hes a fag and i really dont want him to win but i think hes too big and fast and randy is getting old. and i dont understand why he even gets a shot at the title

Out with the old in with the new...CHAMPION BROCK LESNAR! Great fight. Great win to beat The Natural with a devastating F-5 in the 2nd round. Randy got punched about 50 times in a row, surprised he could even talk for the interview.

No kidding. So much for all this Couture is the better striker talk. Lesnar kneed, elbowed, and punched the shit out of him.

That was a great fight. The fear got to randy unfortunately. There were so many opportunities for him to win. I think lesnar makes the UFC a lot more interesting but I can't wait to see him get knocked out and TKOd. It will be impressive when it happens. Probably someone like Junior dos Santos or Gonzaga will do it. They've gotta be brave and not waste time with Brock.

Brock used HGH so he's a true freak. And he trains like a freak. I think it gives him an advantage in being able to knock people down easily from odd angles.

A good fight from both fighters.

Randy showed his gameplan to try to wear brock out (Brock did look a little gassed) and demotivate him with his shots. A couple looked like they rocked Brock. Good takedown defense and showed his experience when he almost took Brocks back with the sweep and his skill in defending on the ground.

Brock, well, it's his fourth ever fight. We knew nothing of his chin so taking a few shots and that knee was good for him. He can take a shot but still looks like he could get rocked without too much trouble. Time will tell. Good wrestling, he did well in the clinch, got a takedown and showed some improved standup. Whether he was being nervous and overly cautious, or if he was pacing himself and feeling the match out is debatable.

His gas tank looks shakey, his chin could still be weaker than we know (or stronger, doesn't look that way though) but we do know he has some power in those canned hams of his. His G 'n' P looks unimproved though, he needs to work for a better position. If someone did recover or catch him he doesn't do himself any favours.

Anyway, he's up against either Mir again, or big nog.

Gonna be interesting to see how he improves inbetween.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/NightMonkey17/nog.jpg?t=1226853920

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/NightMonkey17/nog.jpg?t=1226853920

He's got to beat mir first, shouldn't be too hard. But still.

Really enjoyed that fight, didn't expect to see Lesnar win, but in the end it isn't all that surprising. Couture looked like he had some decent opportunities to do something, but didn't really take advantage of them.

Here's some highlights:

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Not found many yet, but he threw some damn impressive looking knees too.

Couture looked like he had some decent opportunities to do something, but didn't really take advantage of them.

Yeah... He didn't really do much. The fight was boring!

Nog's gonna Murder mir and brock with his master BJJ skills.

Sucked that couture lost... :(
I was hoping to see Couture Vs. Nog, though... *sigh*

Nog's gonna Murder brock with his master BJJ skills.

They said Couture was gooing to murder Brock too...

lesnar looks like a fucking faggot and a douche when he hammer fists

His gas tank looks shakey, his chin could still be weaker than we know (or stronger, doesn't look that way though) but we do know he has some power in those canned hams of his. His G 'n' P looks unimproved though, he needs to work for a better position. If someone did recover or catch him he doesn't do himself any favours.

Anyway, he's up against either Mir again, or big nog.

Gonna be interesting to see how he improves inbetween.

Good post.
I thought the fight was pretty poor, I don't know why Randy didn't dirty box more instead of trying to take down a guy who is the equivalent of three weight classes heavier than he is.
I really expected Randy to go out there and take it, that's twice now fighters seemed to have put on poor performances against Brock, it could be something about him that makes the other fighter look bad ala Machida but I'm not convinced.

Also am I the only person that thought the stoppage was a little weak? Randy had improved the position to the stage where Brock could only use forearms and they were fucking weak, he looked like he was vibrating rather than raining down blows, looking for the stoppage rather than forcing one.

Also am I the only person that thought the stoppage was a little weak? Randy had improved the position to the stage where Brock could only use forearms and they were fucking weak, he looked like he was vibrating rather than raining down blows, looking for the stoppage rather than forcing one.

The stoppage was too late.

Not only was his face a total mess after but he was rolling about on the floor.

Couture for sure. I know hes going to be ready For Brock Lesnars incredible 265 pound strength.

Apparently he wasn't.

Couture's gonna beat the fuckin shit outta brock.
Brock sucks!

Couture v.s. nog... now that is good shitz.

Well... he didn't...

lesnar looks like a fucking faggot and a douche when he hammer fists

Yeah but he looks like the man with that title belt around his waste.

The stoppage was too late.

Not only was his face a total mess after but he was rolling about on the floor.

Not at all. I think the stoppage should always be made as late as possible. This isn't pro boxing, this is cage fighting. A good fight ends with one (or both) of the fighters faces all messed up, and one fighter rolling around on the ground in pain.

Has anybody been able to find a vid of the fight online??

Has anybody been able to find a vid of the fight online??

http://mmalinker.com/xfighters.php?name=Brock+Lesnar

Yeah but he looks like the man with that title belt around his waste.

A travesty in itself. They shouldn't be handing out belts until its been unified, Nog is and will remain the champ. He's easily the 2nd best heavyweight in the world.

A travesty in itself. They shouldn't be handing out belts until its been unified, Nog is and will remain the champ. He's easily the 2nd best heavyweight in the world.

He'll be number one soon. Fedor has been looking really sloppy in his last few fights.

Eh the fight was ok. I was expecting a bit more though:rolleyes:

Eh the fight was ok. I was expecting a bit more though:rolleyes:

Casual fan then? :rolleyes:.

He'll be number one soon. Fedor has been looking really sloppy in his last few fights.

Lol, good one.

Lol, good one.

He has. He looked terrible against Mark Hunt.

He has. He looked terrible against Mark Hunt.

That was in 2006 you anus, he's smashed his last three opponents in the first round! He give Timmy the beating of his life!
You think Nogeuira is better than Fedor even though he's already lost to him twice?!?

Casual fan then? :rolleyes:.

IDK I guess I would perfer watching like an all out scrap or something. I also think Lesnar needs a few more MMA fights under his belt before he can show his full potential