Even if alot of Totseans hate niggers, this has to be a top 10 conspiracy in your life(considering your not 12).

So Totse, what do you think? Why havent they found the killer in all this time?

I think the cops didnt give a shit and maybe Biggie smalls had him killed

or

Like some people think that 2pac faked his death to gain $$ on record sales..

Your thoughts?

Fact: one of his 'crew' killed him.

EDIT: Why does every American think it's a conspiracy when someone dies :mad:

Fact: one of his 'crew' killed him.

EDIT: Why does every American think it's a conspiracy when someone dies :mad:

There was a conspiracy that he faked his death

I think the government or an element within the government killed him due to his political leanings. His mother and father were black panthers and he tried to start a group to break the cycle of young blacks killing young blacks. Watch resurrection. Biggie was just to solidify the east/west coast war illusion. Afterall, it was the media that hyped it up and gave it substance and solidified its existence.

There was a conspiracy that he faked his death

Just because someone has suggested it could of been a conspiracy based on a few suggestions does not make it so.

I mean Michael Moore pointed out a few things, still doesn't mean the government orchestrated 9/11 :mad:

He killed himself. He hoped all niggers would follow in his foot steps and kill themselves.

I think the government or an element within the government killed him due to his political leanings. His mother and father were black panthers and he tried to start a group to break the cycle of young blacks killing young blacks. Watch resurrection. Biggie was just to solidify the east/west coast war illusion. Afterall, it was the media that hyped it up and gave it substance and solidified its existence.

for some reason this makes a lot of sense to me.

I don't care about some dead nigger, I'd be happy if they all followed him.

It's absurd that you would consider this one of the top ten conspiracies. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least ten which are far far better! Take your pick:

9/11
JFK
RFK
The Protocols of Zion
The Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking
USS Liberty
Korean Air Lines Flight 007
TWA 800
Compulsory vaccination & vaccine deaths
Genocidal promotion of multiculturalism and mass-immigration to white countries as well as the promotion of small families for whites, abortion, and miscegenation
The Jews controlling the media
Holocaust hoax
1993 WTC bombing
Oklahoma city bombing
Waco massacre
Ruby Ridge massacre
Gulf of Tonkin incident


...I could keep going, but you should get my point by now.

there really isn't a conspiracy about the protocols of zion...everyone knows thats bullshit

I don't care about some dead nigger, I'd be happy if they all followed him.

It's absurd that you would consider this one of the top ten conspiracies. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least ten which are far far better! Take your pick:

9/11
JFK
RFK
The Protocols of Zion
The Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking
USS Liberty
Korean Air Lines Flight 007
TWA 800
Compulsory vaccination & vaccine deaths
Genocidal promotion of multiculturalism and mass-immigration to white countries as well as the promotion of small families for whites, abortion, and miscegenation
The Jews controlling the media
Holocaust hoax
1993 WTC bombing
Oklahoma city bombing
Waco massacre
Ruby Ridge massacre
Gulf of Tonkin incident


...I could keep going, but you should get my point by now.

I said while you were alive, where you alive when JFK got shot?

I said while you were alive, where you alive when JFK got shot?

I was alive in Kentucky at the time.

there really isn't a conspiracy about the protocols of zion...everyone knows thats bullshit

Oh, really? :rolleyes: Why's that?

Originally leaked in 1904 the document predicted the rise of universal suffrage, the two world wars (protocol 7), materialism replacing religion (protocol 4), Jewish control of the press (protocol 12), and the general public being distracted by sports competitions and other non-sense (protocol 13). You're just too "educated" (protocol 9) and tolerant to see what's right in front of your face.

It's just a coincidence that the last two heads of the Fed are Jews, that Jews have a grossly disproportionate influence in Western media & politics, and that the State of Israel can attack American ships (USS Liberty) and still receive $5 billion a year from the US government.

Oh, really? :rolleyes: Why's that?

Originally leaked in 1904 the document predicted the rise of universal suffrage, the two world wars (protocol 7), materialism replacing religion (protocol 4), Jewish control of the press (protocol 12), and the general public being distracted by sports competitions and other non-sense (protocol 13). You're just too "educated" (protocol 9) and tolerant to see what's right in front of your face.

It's just a coincidence that the last two heads of the Fed are Jews, that Jews have a grossly disproportionate influence in Western media & politics, and that the State of Israel can attack American ships (USS Liberty) and still receive $5 billion a year from the US government.


It predicted? Really? about as well as Nostradamus? Because according to Nostradamus supporters, he predicted everything from The American revolution to 9/11 :rolleyes:

It predicted? Really? about as well as Nostradamus? Because according to Nostradamus supporters, he predicted everything from The American revolution to 9/11 :rolleyes:

Read the protocols or STFU.

There is no conspiracy; that is the real conspiracy.

Holocaust hoax

Hey look everyone a neo-nazi.

I was alive in Kentucky at the time.

Mikehunt1 got owned by spelling :P

Mikehunt1 got owned by spelling :P

lulz just noticed that

I think the government or an element within the government killed him due to his political leanings. His mother and father were black panthers and he tried to start a group to break the cycle of young blacks killing young blacks. Watch resurrection. Biggie was just to solidify the east/west coast war illusion. Afterall, it was the media that hyped it up and gave it substance and solidified its existence.

thats what i believe. apparently suge knight was payed to orchestrate it, but who knows.

Jesus Fucking Christ, you have to be an epic fucking moron to believe he faked his own death/Suge did it.

Tupac stomped out Baby Lane the night he died, Baby came back and shot him.

End. Of. Story.

I don't care about some dead nigger, I'd be happy if they all followed him.

It's absurd that you would consider this one of the top ten conspiracies. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least ten which are far far better! Take your pick:

9/11
JFK
RFK
The Protocols of Zion
The Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking
USS Liberty
Korean Air Lines Flight 007
TWA 800
Compulsory vaccination & vaccine deaths
Genocidal promotion of multiculturalism and mass-immigration to white countries as well as the promotion of small families for whites, abortion, and miscegenation
The Jews controlling the media
Holocaust hoax
1993 WTC bombing
Oklahoma city bombing
Waco massacre
Ruby Ridge massacre
Gulf of Tonkin incident


...I could keep going, but you should get my point by now.

I love how basically every large event or tragedy has some conspiracy tied to it. Sure, some historical events have a tinge of conspiracy to them. But really, not everything is orchestrated by higher or unseen powers. This kind of fear mongering does no one any good. Their is no "Power" that controls everything. Are there groups out there causing mischief and having an ill influence on the world and certain events? Sure. But not everything has to be part of some damn overreaching conspiracy.

For all those who say he's alive he is DEAD. They have a pic of his dead body

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFd55gXo_M

And even if he faked his death, people are hoping he is gonna come back. Its been how many years? i wouldn't hold your breath

Hold your breath.....and then we have less idiots to deal with :p

I believe he was killed by Suge Knight. He was planning to stop rapping so much and only produce albums every 4 or 5 years. He was gonna get into a lot of charity and political work. And everyone knows how Suge is a complete fucking scumbag, he is scumbagness in material form.

Thats why there was the lawsuit where Tupac's mom won all that money from Suge a couple years later.

Yes we all know there were huge inconsistences, he didnt have an autopsy, and the only photo is pretty shady.

But keep in mind the Las Vegas Police Department was completly infested by different gang members + the normal corruption. And remember money talks, especially to a fat ass cop who has nothing to lose.

going off topic"
that Jews have a grossly disproportionate influence in Western media & politics, and that the State of Israel can attack American ships (USS Liberty) and still receive $5 billion a year from the US government.

Very good point, that is a fact. But personally im not a believer in the Jewish/Zionist conspiracy. Im against the bullshit handouts we give Israel, and their neighbors which fuels instability in the region. And organizations like AIPAC just have ridicoulas amounts of influence that is pushing policies that hurt America domestically and internationally. But you have to remember the elite and the NWO set up traps for people that rise up and bust out of the mainstream bs, the left/right, democrat/republican paradigms. They want ppl to get caught up in things like the zionist conspiracy that actully serve to distract you from what is going on.

seach youtube for David Icke (i know, i know...) on Alex Jones show on October 16th (not his interview in june or july). And they eloquently explain this point.

No one cares about that guy. He made terrible music, why people flatulate on anyone who doesn't see him as a hero is beyond me.

Fact: one of his 'crew' killed him.

EDIT: Why does every American think it's a conspiracy when someone dies :mad:

Wrong. Orlando, the one whos chain he took that night, killed him. I promise you that.

No one cares about that guy. He made terrible music, why people flatulate on anyone who doesn't see him as a hero is beyond me.

Your stupid. Your probly some pussy collar poppin white kid in the Hills so of course you wouldnt like thug music.

Your stupid. Your probly some pussy collar poppin white kid in the Hills so of course you wouldnt like thug music.

Yeah, and you're a real gangsta which is why you post on an internet forum :rolleyes:

Yeah, and you're a real gangsta which is why you post on an internet forum :rolleyes:

what are you talking about when did i say im a gangster. fuck off.

No one cares about that guy. He made terrible music, why people flatulate on anyone who doesn't see him as a hero is beyond me.

Actually I would suggest that Tupac is one of the greatest rappers we've seen...Eminem might be better - but Tupac is certainly right up there.

And No I'm not a 'gangster', I just recognize well written and well produced music, no matter the genre. Everyone knows Tupac was musically and lyrically talented - not in the objective sense that all music is 'good' to someone, but from an ethnomusicological standpoint in which the 'value' of his music is obvious and undeniable.

Stop being 12.

Actually I would suggest that Tupac is one of the greatest rappers we've seen...Eminem might be better - but Tupac is certainly right up there.


lol...

Lots of Eminem's Lyrics are stolen... although I can only think of one off the top of my head, I do recall hearing many and thinking "hey, that's in such and such song by such and such."

The one I can specifically remember:

Anyone hear the wild west song with M and Dr. Dre?
"I grabbed two girlies and a blunt that's rolled" is one of his lines... where have you heard this before?


Beastie boys.
"I grabbed two girlies and a beer that's cold."

Can't remember which song it was though... I know it's on the CD with Paul Revere on it or whatever song it was... And fight for your right.

EDIT: It is the paul revere song actually.

http://www.tupacnet.org/theories/autopsycolour.jpg

He's dead.

Lots of Eminem's Lyrics are stolen... although I can only think of one off the top of my head, I do recall hearing many and thinking "hey, that's in such and such song by such and such."

The one I can specifically remember:

Anyone hear the wild west song with M and Dr. Dre?
"I grabbed two girlies and a blunt that's rolled" is one of his lines... where have you heard this before?


Beastie boys.
"I grabbed two girlies and a beer that's cold."

Can't remember which song it was though... I know it's on the CD with Paul Revere on it or whatever song it was... And fight for your right.



Rappers do that all the time to pay homage to other great MC's and honor them.

Notorious B.I.G.:
"Biggie biggie biggie cant you see, sometimes your words just hypnotize me, I just love your flashy ways, this is why theyre broke and your so paid"

Slick Rick much earlier:
"Ricky Rick ricky cant you see , somehow your words just hypnotize me, and I just lovee your Jazzy ways"

Or
Blackstar:
"1..2..3... mos def and talib kweli, we came to rock it to the tip top best alliance in hip hop, i said 1..2..3... its kinda dangerous to be an MC best alliance in hip hop..."

KRS-One much earlier
"I said 1...2..3 the crew is called BDP, and if you wanna goto the tip top stop the violence in hip hop"

No one is stealing lines their honoring previous MC's. I could go on forever citing examples of this.

niggers kill niggers all the time how does that at all have to be suspicious

Usually threads get stupid when they get this long, but i'll put in my shit anyway. Fuck tupac, you people should be paying attention to the death of Eazy E. The fucking IRS is still investigating the source of money for Ruthless records. This motherfucker proved you could start your own record label completely illegally. AIDS was creeated in early 1980 for the purouse of killing off the suplus population, specifically blacks homosexuals, and crackheads. Fucking crack was also created for the destruction of low income minorities. They purously inflicted eazy with aids, to kill him.

Fucking crack was also created for the destruction of low income minorities. They purously inflicted eazy with aids, to kill him.

I lol'd.

IMO tupac is good and dead and to this day for sure the only person that knows who killed tupac, is the one who pulled the trigger himself.

Anybody that wants to know who might have possible murdered him read the book "queens reigns supreme" . It is not a book about tupac or the "who killed tupac conspiracy". It is a documentary-like book about the streets of Queens,NY in the early 80's to present and its influence on Hip-Hop in general. The book is not some biased documentary written by (insert your favorite rapper) written solely to make $$ , It is written by a white guy who writes for magazines and newspaper, the book itself is completely based on federal documents, wiretaps and such and as well as interviews from the people who lived it, some even in prison. I have read it myself several times and still have the copy if someone is interested in purchasing it from me ($10 plus shipping), Im not promoting or have copies of this book, the copy I own is in generally shitty condition itself, but still have every single page and very readable and interesting, I might add.

In the book there is a portion of I would say (5 pages) that connects tupac to certain people. Had it not been for these people meeting tupac, I asure you he would not have died that night, these people he met were in NY and werent associated with Orland Lane, the guy that everyone suspects killed pac in retaliation for beating him up. Tupac was a well known guy in NY for being a publicity whore and there were "real thugs" that didnt like this young cat acting wild for cameras. The guy who might have gotten tupac murdered, might also have been responsible for being tupac being robbed/shot at the quad studios for $40,000 chains in manhattan,ny. It was not until tupac was sent to prison in upstate,new york that he realized that this guy he met was a force to be fucked with, or so he was told by some of his fellow prisoners.

May I ask some of the names mentioned in the book?

Henchmen perhaps?

EDIT: In an interview with Ethan Brown:

"But really, I don’t think Tupac or Biggie’s death had anything to do with hip-hop stuff at all. Tupac pissed off a gang member, and Biggie got involved with some really rough Crip guys for security. Both of their deaths seem unrelated to hip-hop. ".

lol.

[QUOTE=ShaoLin_D;10579757]I think the government or an element within the government killed him due to his political leanings. His mother and father were black panthers and he tried to start a group to break the cycle of young blacks killing young blacks. [QUOTE]
A few years back I came across some government documents online( i forgot where thouh might have been smokinggun.com) that contained evidence there was indeed a conspiracy to kill tupac and a few other blacks as well , had he not by shot that day I believe the government would have eventually gotten to him. I however did read them online and cannot authenticate them.

@azure, i have not read the book recently and its at my fathers house, so i cannot verify that but the name henchmen does sound familiar i do believe it was mentioned in the book.

@azure, i have not read the book recently and its at my fathers house, so i cannot verify that but the name henchmen does sound familiar i do believe it was mentioned in the book.

Yeah, Jimmy "Henchmen" Rosemond was one of the guys who robbed Pac in '94. Haitian Jack and James Sabatino were also involved. Either in the planning stage, or the actual robbery itself.

Yeah, Jimmy "Henchmen" Rosemond was one of the guys who robbed Pac in '94. Haitian Jack and James Sabatino were also involved. Either in the planning stage, or the actual robbery itself.

Do you have the book?

im gonna pass by there later so ill pick up the book as well and get back to you about that.

Do you have the book?

im gonna pass by there later so ill pick up the book as well and get back to you about that.

I do not own the book, but I've heard of it, and know what it entails. I've read quite a bit on old Queens cats, and that book has come up quite a bit, I've also read quite extensively on the Tupac incident and some of the people involved. Personally, from what I've seen, I think Brown puts too much extras on 50 Cent, going as far as saying that Fiddy "took down and destroyed" Mcgriff, when in reality Mcgriff had already been had by the government by that point.

I do not own the book, but I've heard of it, and know what it entails. I've read quite a bit on old Queens cats, and that book has come up quite a bit, I've also read quite extensively on the Tupac incident and some of the people involved. Personally, from what I've seen, I think Brown puts too much extras on 50 Cent, going as far as saying that Fiddy "took down and destroyed" Mcgriff, when in reality Mcgriff had already been had by the government by that point.

Oh, i dont remember that much about it, but i dont think brown meant 50 cent destroyed supreme in the sense the goverment had, and did they enjoy ravishing his shit, i think he meant more towards they music industry side, but i agree he did emphsize 50 cent in the book in general compared to the caliber of other "gangsters" mentioned in the book.

If you dont mind me asking where are you located?

Oh, i dont remember that much about it, but i dont think brown meant 50 cent destroyed supreme in the sense the goverment had, and did they enjoy ravishing his shit, i think he meant more towards they music industry side, but i agree he did emphsize 50 cent in the book in general compared to the caliber of other "gangsters" mentioned in the book.

If you dont mind me asking where are you located?

I know what he meant, but in reality, 'Preme held 50 back for a long time in the music industry.

I'm in Canada.

I know what he meant, but in reality, 'Preme held 50 back for a long time in the music industry.

. Hmmm, really how so?

Hmmm, really how so?

By manipulation of certain industry figures that 50 tried to connect himself to, even going as far as murder(Jam Master Jay), Fiddy mentions it in his book "From Pieces to Weight".

By manipulation of certain industry figures that 50 tried to connect himself to, even going as far as murder(Jam Master Jay), Fiddy mentions it in his book "From Pieces to Weight".

Yea, theres some truth to that, but it wasnt entirely Supreme that held him back, I wouldnt say he murdered jam master jay either, but hey whatever floats your boat.I read pieces to weight as well, and imo it wasnt that good,even for a guy that has never written anything before. I did like 50 cent first 2 albums though he had some good stuff on it after that, he has gone far south since, and for good reason, my father worked with a guy in the "music industry" who knew 50 cent personally and there were/still are many people that want 50 cent out of the picture, not just supreme and fat joe/lox. You seem like you genuinely like the truth and not what every one is spoonfed by people with power, belive nothing you hear and half of what you see.;)

Yea, theres some truth to that, but it wasnt entirely Supreme that held him back, I wouldnt say he murdered jam master jay either, but hey whatever floats your boat.I read pieces to weight as well, and imo it wasnt that good,even for a guy that has never written anything before. I did like 50 cent first 2 albums though he had some good stuff on it after that, he has gone far south since, and for good reason, my father worked with a guy in the "music industry" who knew 50 cent personally and there were/still are many people that want 50 cent out of the picture, not just supreme and fat joe/lox. You seem like you genuinely like the truth and not what every one is spoonfed by people with power, belive nothing you hear and half of what you see.;)

Well, there's a great deal of investigation and link with the murder and Supreme. I really didn't like the book, from what I've read about 50's life, some things really don't add up.

I don't believe 50 actually wrote the book, as soon as I started the first page I thought for sure it was ghostwritten.

I liked Power of the Dollar, and I guess GRODT was okay as well, but I've never really been a huge Fiddy fan. The only G Unit artist I really like is Lloyd Banks.

I'm not surprised a lot of people want 50 to go under/never blow up in the first place, he certainly has made quite a raucous in the industry.

Whether or not he's a decent rapper, he's definitely a decent businessman, and I think loads of people who "hate" 50 nowadays, and take shots at him, especially artists, are jealous of that fact.

I'm going to pick up Queens Reigns Supreme soon enough, I've really wanted to read it for a while, and since my local library doesn't have it in stock, I've been putting it off lol.

Well, there's a great deal of investigation and link with the murder and Supreme. I really didn't like the book, from what I've read about 50's life, some things really don't add up.
People of power arent nice goody 2 shoes, rarely honest individuals, in fact most people i know will stab friends in the back,lie,cheat,steal, even kill to get to the top, and it is very often necessary to get there, that is what i meant by believe half of what you see. supreme i belive is in prison for the murder of black just, i know the feds wanted him in prison BAD for a long long time, i do belive in that specific case they made up so called "evidence" and lied on the stand to get that conviction, and this isnt as uncommon as you would think.
There's defintely alot of lies in his book. This is 1 of the books i meant when i said in earlier in my posts {insert favorite rapper book to make $$}

I don't believe 50 actually wrote the book, as soon as I started the first page I thought for sure it was ghostwritten.

I liked Power of the Dollar, and I guess GRODT was okay as well, but I've never really been a huge Fiddy fan. The only G Unit artist I really like is Lloyd Banks.

very,very good possibility someone other then him wrote the book. POTD and GRODT were two very good cd's i listened to for a while. Lloyd banks is ok. he does have some nasty punchlines.


I'm not surprised a lot of people want 50 to go under/never blow up in the first place, he certainly has made quite a raucous in the industry.

Whether or not he's a decent rapper, he's definitely a decent businessman, and I think loads of people who "hate" 50 nowadays, and take shots at him, especially artists, are jealous of that fact.

When i said he is wanted out of the picture i meant theres people that want to murder him. Hes a very good businessman, that cant be denied, i dont like him when hes that but trying to poratry himself as a super gangster.


I'm going to pick up Queens Reigns Supreme soon enough, I've really wanted to read it for a while, and since my local library doesn't have it in stock, I've been putting it off lol

i advice you get it, its one of the best books i have read and ive read quite a few. If you like reading you wont be disappointed. guaranteed

Even if alot of Totseans hate niggers, this has to be a top 10 conspiracy in your life(considering your not 12).

So Totse, what do you think? Why havent they found the killer in all this time?

I think the cops didnt give a shit and maybe Biggie smalls had him killed

or

Like some people think that 2pac faked his death to gain $$ on record sales..

Your thoughts?

Fact: one of his 'crew' killed him.

EDIT: Why does every American think it's a conspiracy when someone dies :mad:

There was a conspiracy that he faked his death


Americans are fucking idiots, that way every time something happens some ignorant fuck has to make some bullshit story up. The people who believe it should kill them selfs.

Oh, really? :rolleyes: Why's that?

Originally leaked in 1904 the document predicted the rise of universal suffrage, the two world wars (protocol 7), materialism replacing religion (protocol 4), Jewish control of the press (protocol 12), and the general public being distracted by sports competitions and other non-sense (protocol 13). You're just too "educated" (protocol 9) and tolerant to see what's right in front of your face.

It's just a coincidence that the last two heads of the Fed are Jews, that Jews have a grossly disproportionate influence in Western media & politics, and that the State of Israel can attack American ships (USS Liberty) and still receive $5 billion a year from the US government.

This is the perfect example of a dumbass, notice how full of shit he is. You probably have no fucking life to believe in this shit. Get job, Get laid, Go out, get the fuck over it, you believe in stupid shit.

/have a nice day.

Tupac was killed because he ate Mr.T's Cheetos.

Exclusive video proof (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1345718259)

Well I'm not too sure. I've never really looked into the death of tupac. Although his autopsy picture is shady, doesnt even show his face. It's like the alien autopsy picture, just latex and makeup. They do that kinda shit all the time on CSI. I came across this vid on youtube. I'll let you guys be the judges of it
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U0xfWYvwLO8&feature=related

Also I think that Elvis, Tupac and Hitler are all living in a big mansion somewhere. Why else would Tupac and Elvis release new songs all the time.... after they died. Oh and Tupac says that Hitler's not racist anymore... just hought I should tell you. He saw the errors of his ways.

I think the government or an element within the government killed him due to his political leanings. His mother and father were black panthers and he tried to start a group to break the cycle of young blacks killing young blacks. Watch resurrection. Biggie was just to solidify the east/west coast war illusion. Afterall, it was the media that hyped it up and gave it substance and solidified its existence.

fuck u nigger

Fuck you, nigger.

That's why I don't like Acolytes.