http://wvgazette.com/News/200810180251

Does anyone else feel that republicans are pushing acorn so hard to cover up for their own fraud? It's funny how you don't hear of a machine actually switching a vote from bush to kerry, or bush to gore. Fact is Bush stole the election in 2000, and the same scenario is likely to unfold. Forget that obama gets 100,000 people in rallies and mccain gets 10,000. There won't be a landslide, it will be close race with mccain barely picking up swing states in the end. He'll go on tv saying what a great man obama is and accept the nomination. Analysts will say the base got riled up, people started doubting obama, etc.

The thieves already got a slap on the wrist.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/GOP_voter_purge_declared_illegal_in_1013.html

But no, Obama helped people get registered to vote at the DMV, acorn's gonna steal the election. You betcha.

I came to the same conclusion as you. And no one's going to do anything about it.

Republicans/rednecks will always find a way to rig it because they've realized how retarded most american people are.

This is what you should expect from a Diebold Democracy

Fortunately the only states that matter this cycle--Ohio and Florida--have paper ballots. If Obama keeps the Kerry states (and he has an unbelievably high chance of doing so), all he will need is one of these 2 states and he will win. Let's settle vote fraud when it actually matters if peoples' votes are counted or not (and they'll be counted regardless in OH and FL).

actually there is a big difference between registration fraud and voter fraud.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,3842357.story
The owner of a firm that the California Republican Party hired to register tens of thousands of voters this year was arrested in Ontario over the weekend on suspicion of voter registration fraud.

Notice how a Republican was arrested for voter registration fraud and no one from the ACORN group has yet been arrested. Was ACORN really as big a deal as Faux News made it out to be?

Hacking Democracy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4762159260759486531&ei=SAv8SKOpL6P0qALzl4zeDg&q=hacking+democracy

Everyone needs to watch this. Also be aware that Diebold's new name for the eletronic voting machine division is "Premier Election Solutions".

*saves this spot to laugh at all of you when obama wins election

Edit: HAH! HAH HAH!! SHAME!! EAT ME!!! SHAME!!!

Rallies aren't the most important thing.

Some people have jobs and other commitments which preclude them from attending the wankfests known as political events.

Election Frauds make my day.

Well it's been a fraud for most of the American society since the 1900's when the Central Bank's took back power.

The system has been constantly Abused by American Conservatives and Democrats.

As much as some think America is the case of a complete democracy it is not.

It is an example of Class Struggle's, Recourse War's and Fraud.

So don't think this is new.

Simply Democracy is in compatible with just two parties only being elected over and over and over again.

We need to throw in some spice in this stew.

Otherwise the American Nation is slowly killing itself.

That is one of the largest problems when it comes to Constitutional Republics... The fact they end up attacking themselves in search of wealth and exploitation a friendly example of hypocracy is the simple fact they broke there own Constitution.

The fact that all men are created equal.... Explain the Middle Passage.
That the United States would not unfairly tax their own Citizens... Is worse than Great Britains taxings that the original revolutionaries dealt with.

I could rant and rave on and on about this but I dont think I have enough space.

Fortunately the only states that matter this cycle--Ohio and Florida--have paper ballots. If Obama keeps the Kerry states (and he has an unbelievably high chance of doing so), all he will need is one of these 2 states and he will win. Let's settle vote fraud when it actually matters if peoples' votes are counted or not (and they'll be counted regardless in OH and FL).

We vote on the voting machines in Ohio. Not paper.

http://vodpod.com/pod/video/1686335

The only reason that the FBI is investigating ACORN is because of the corrupt administration in the WH and Karl Roves tactics that they have used in previous elections that put them there.

We vote on the voting machines in Ohio. Not paper.

My mistake. I know there's something new going on in Ohio this year. :confused: Do it later.

My mistake. I know there's something new going on in Ohio this year. :confused: Do it later.

When I voted in 2006 it was on a machine....I guess this is the first presidential election with them though, yeah.

I think you will like this. I would have posted more on this story but I couldn't remember the other player in the electronic voting farce.

http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/21/2036246

I'm in the process of downloading the movie.

Now, the rigging of an election is a conspiracy that you can choose to believe or not believe. The fact that our voting machines are severely unprotected is NOT up for debate, really. All it takes is a simple program. +1 for candidate 1. +1 for candidate b. So why wont the manufacturers let the programming community take a look at it? Why arent anti-hacking measures being taken? Why isnt a paper trail being printed out? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=21a_1225010361

Everyone thinks Republicans rig elections. Why? Because they win? There's so many factors involved in elections.

Just because Obama gets "100,000" people at a rally and McCain gets "10,000" (as Zay put it in another thread) does not mean more people will vote for Obama. I support McCain/Palin and I never went to one of their rallies. I was at work. I never sent them a dollar.

I will still vote for them. I consider myself a "mainstream" American. I am mainstream, that means there's a lot of people like me.

It seems to me, the average Obama voter tries to buck the system. Trying to buy the election or make some noise for Obama. The fact that Obama outspends McCain several magnitudes more yet is only 7.8 ahead in the polls (according to realclearpolitics) attests to the fact that McCain isn't actually doing that bad. And don't even get me started on the whole small donors (http://www.newsweek.com/id/162403) bullshit that the media is all but ignoring.

I think Obama will win this election. I don't want that to happen but I believe heavily slanted media bias (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6099188) assisted greatly. I believe Obama's empty words sound a lot better than McCain's harsh reality and people buy into that. Either way, it's a very exciting election for me. I assure you, my November 5th at work will be spent in a groggy sleep-lacking daze.

Does anyone else feel that republicans are pushing acorn so hard to cover up for their own fraud? It's funny how you don't hear of a machine actually switching a vote from bush to kerry, or bush to gore. Fact is Bush stole the election in 2000, and the same scenario is likely to unfold. Forget that obama gets 100,000 people in rallies and mccain gets 10,000. There won't be a landslide, it will be close race with mccain barely picking up swing states in the end. He'll go on tv saying what a great man obama is and accept the nomination. Analysts will say the base got riled up, people started doubting obama, etc.
thank you finally someone says it. The ACORN thing is a fucking joke. The people who registered 50 times had no intention of voting 50 times lol. By why isnt anyone talking about all the dead people who voted 50 times in ohio, nevada, colorado, and florida in 2000 and 2004?

Theres so much information out there that proves the last two elections were stolen its ridicoulas. Funny how so many poor areas in swing states had such high voter turnout rates for democrats and all those registered democrats voted for Bush, especially on Native American lands. Its not a coincidence when its in 5 states.

www.gregpalast.com

The New Mexico GOP is being sued by ACORN for voter intimidation.

LOL those fuckers.

Lawsuits were filed today in U.S. Federal District Court, charging New Mexico Republicans with criminal violations of the U.S. Voting Rights Act.


The lawsuits stem from a series of attacks on new, minority voters in Albuquerque--many of whom were assisted in registering to vote by ACORN--that began with a press conference on October 16, led by State Representative Justine Fox-Young, in which Fox-Young claimed to have solid proof that individuals had illegally voted in the June, 2008 Democratic primary election. At the press conference, the Republican Party broke state law by distributing the voters' personal information in its press packets.


The second attack came after ACORN visited 9 of the 10 smeared voters and proved them to be legitimate. On October 22, a private investigator visited at least 3 of the voters, leaving them shaken, one in tears.

The Associated Press reported the daughter of one voter indicated that the intimidating tactics had worked on her mother. ""She said that if she knew she was going to have to go through all this, she wouldn't have voted," said Guadalupe Bojorquez.

According to the VRA, it is a criminal offense to willfully intimidate or interfere with a person attempting to vote or to conspire to intimidate someone trying to vote. In ACORN's conversations with all of the voters visited by the investigator, all expressed fear at his aggressive, angry, and intrusive behavior.

"These are all minority voters. Many of them are young, and one is a new citizen," said ACORN leader Dana Gallegos. "ACORN has worked hard to get these types of new voters involved in the democratic process. We will not tolerate attempts by the Republican Party to suppress the Hispanic vote in New Mexico."

The investigator told one voter that his name was Al Romero and that he works for Pat Rogers, a Republican Party attorney who was also involved in the October 16 smears.

ACORN helped 80,000 New Mexicans register to vote this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/new-mexico-gop-sued-for-v_n_138199.html

lol, "New Mexicans"

What in the fuck was wrong with paper ballots?

What the fuck was wrong with ballots that we can actually pick up and say, alright, this person right here voted for McCain, and this person right here voted for Obama.

Who's brilliant fucking idea was it to use computers to count votes?

You can't rig a fucking piece of paper, can you?

You can't rig a fucking piece of paper, can you?

Actually you can... quite easily...

I miss working for VEC