Ok well I just went to check my email and found this nice little article about two jack ass fucking hick neo nazis that got their assasination attempt foiled by feds. I think obama not going to be a good president and our country not ready but damn these two were fucking retarded. Apparently the stupid fucks planned to go about killing 88 blacks and then attempt to kill obama with a sawed off shotgun a rifle and a few pistols and some other weapons they planned to get from a gun store they were going to rob. They also planned to behead 14 of the 88. What are your thoughts on this shit? Personally I think they are just a couple of fucking retards that should have been aborted, so way to go if obama gets in this will just be one more little thing for him to use to get a nice little gun ban going.


link is http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081028/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot

First, this has absolutely nothing to do with this forum.

Second, their plot had absolutely nothing to do with Obama except that at the end of the rampage they were intending on going on, they thought it would be funny to try and go kill him.

This is being used by the media and anyone stupid enough to believe the media to bring more attention to Obama and villify anyone who opposes him. Now not only are you a racist if you don't vote for Obama, you're probably a neo-nazi who's planning a rampage. :rolleyes:

Well considering they were planning on using firearms to try to take out a bunch of people one being a possible future president. I figured maybe this might have to do with weapons and combat considering obamas already anti gun last time I checked and probably will later use this to help support gun bans.

And your definatly right about the other shit though, its just going to make obama seem like a victim and anyone that doesn't vote him is just as bad as these racist hicks.

I totally do not condone their attempt, as I do not believe violence is justifiable in this instant. I may not agree with Mr. Obama on many issues, but I definitely don't condone murder.
That being said, I sometimes do wonder why, in a world of "equality", gun owners and National Socialists are of the few groups which it is politically correct to bash and trample.
Aside from the racial doctrine and somother lunacies, the basic political tenents of National Socialism, in my opinion, are one of the few sound political alternatives.

Where's Kiefer Sutherland when you need him?

That being said, I sometimes do wonder why, in a world of "equality", gun owners and National Socialists are of the few groups which it is politically correct to bash and trample.
Aside from the racial doctrine and somother lunacies, the basic political tenents of National Socialism, in my opinion, are one of the few sound political alternatives.

Depends on what your aim is. If your goal is the success of the totalitarian state, it was indeed a pretty fair political strategy. If your goal for the state is freedom and the elevation of the individual, it's totally wrong. Since that's what most Americans believe in, you can imagine why they'd find problems with the logic. Then of course there's the whole racial aspect.

Gun owners on the other hand are often portrayed poorly in the media because it is controlled by liberal fascists who don't believe individual citizens should be allowed to make adult decisions for themselves. See above paragraph if this sounds familiar...

Depends on what your aim is. If your goal is the success of the totalitarian state, it was indeed a pretty fair political strategy. If your goal for the state is freedom and the elevation of the individual, it's totally wrong. Since that's what most Americans believe in, you can imagine why they'd find problems with the logic. Then of course there's the whole racial aspect.

Gun owners on the other hand are often portrayed poorly in the media because it is controlled by liberal fascists who don't believe individual citizens should be allowed to make adult decisions for themselves. See above paragraph if this sounds familiar...

I'm particularly drawn to it because of the rapid recovery Germany made under the National Socialists. So it seems to me that their idea of collective cooperation for the benefit of a strong nation works, or at least it would be a good staring point for emerging countries.
Once they are developed, however, a state of freedom should prevail.
At least thats my opinion. But of course it has many many flaws and is probably quite difficult to carry out. Fascism seemed to be a pretty good way to get things started. At least the Fascism of the 20's. Also, the system wasn't geared, like today's system, towards the necessities of the average collective, but those of the country. It seemed to be far more romantic and idealistic...

...tenets of National Socialism...

At least its an ethos!

Considering the fact that most of the rednecks at work want him assassinated, this comes as no surprise.


Next news story please.

At least its an ethos!

Fucking Nihilists.

Just another over sensationalized story. Besides, if they were serious about anything, they wouldnt've tried to use a knock off HK91 with what's obviously a crap chinese scope.

How'd they end up catching them anyway? Myspace? Twitter?

Jesus.

I don't suppose they've heard of voting, have they? Maybe free speech?

Hell even a good ol' smear campaign.

Richard Nixon had the right idea, just poor implementation.

Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance ;)

Anyone noticed the uncanny resemblence of his name to Black Osama?

....i don't trust him. *dons the suicide bomber proof tin foil hat*

I'm particularly drawn to it because of the rapid recovery Germany made under the National Socialists. So it seems to me that their idea of collective cooperation for the benefit of a strong nation works, or at least it would be a good staring point for emerging countries.
Once they are developed, however, a state of freedom should prevail.
At least thats my opinion. But of course it has many many flaws and is probably quite difficult to carry out. Fascism seemed to be a pretty good way to get things started. At least the Fascism of the 20's. Also, the system wasn't geared, like today's system, towards the necessities of the average collective, but those of the country. It seemed to be far more romantic and idealistic...

reminds me of a certain startrek TOS episode... where kirk fights nazis.
they tried to jumpstart a society using facism but fucked up.